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Puck
10-22-2017, 01:00 PM
http://www.foxsports.com/the-herd-with-colin-cowherd/video/1077080643624


Interesting but doubt it. Maybe they have Pagano the yr because he volunteered to fuck the team up and then retire after this season

Maniac
10-22-2017, 01:08 PM
stop watching/listening to that moron.

Indiana V2
10-22-2017, 01:13 PM
http://www.foxsports.com/the-herd-with-colin-cowherd/video/1077080643624


Interesting but doubt it. Maybe they have Pagano the yr because he volunteered to fuck the team up and then retire after this season

I hope Ballard has a plan in mind, because if he's winging it, then we're screwed.

DrSpaceman
10-23-2017, 08:41 AM
The problem with this theory is, after watching Brissette the last two weeks, he clearly is not a franchise QB or likely even a starter on most teams.

He can't read the blitz well enough. The last 6 quarters the D has just been coming after him with all out blitzes and he has not adjusted.

I am not upset with him about it. He is a former 3rd stringer with little experience now expected to start with a poor OL and poor coaching.

But the idea what he has shown so far will translate into someone trading anything significant for him is a huge reach

Luck4Reich
10-23-2017, 08:43 AM
Any theory that ends with Pagano fired works for me.

Alien abduction... Joins the Circus. Just gone!

Coltsalr
10-23-2017, 08:45 AM
Cowherd sat up in the press box with Ballard during the USC/Stanford game (when the Colts were in town to play the Rams).

Cowherd has insinuated that it was a fairly revealing conversation, but while he doesn’t overtly report what was said or say “sources say...” he’s started to have what he seems to believe a much more informed opinion about the Colts.

I doubt if he heard that his was some grand master plan and was handed this story whole cloth. However, I also wouldn’t be surprised if he’s piecing this together as a plausible/logical conclusion based off what he does know.

FatDT
10-23-2017, 09:03 AM
I get an Access Denied error when I try that link so I have no idea what you guys are discussing.

DrSpaceman
10-23-2017, 09:38 AM
He is saying
1. The Colts, and Ballard in particular, knew this was a lost season from the beginning and Luck would not play this year based on his injury
2. Ballard is fine with the season being a lost one to get a high draft pick
3. He is showcasing Brissette with plans to trade him for draft picks at the end of the year
4. Also with this draft having some quality QBs available at the top, the Colts may trade that top pick they get for sucking this year for more lower picks to a team in need of a QB

It makes more sense than all the morons saying Luck will be trading for a bunch of picks, I give him that.

But as I stated the flaw so far is that someone is going to trade much for Brissette. You might get a team to give a 2nd/3rd round pick on him, but no one is getting up a #1 or multiple picks based on what he has done so far.

He has been OK, better than the other recent back ups for the Colts. But that is a very low bar.

FatDT
10-23-2017, 10:20 AM
I don't buy that it was a calculated, step-by-step plan to tank for those exact goals.

But, I can imagine it being a fluid thing. See how Luck does, see how the team does w/out him, play it by ear. Let Pagano demonstrate that he can't coach. Let the staff demonstrate the same. Let Irsay feel the pain of a bad roster, bad staff, and look to Ballard after to fix the team.

Or, if things go better than expected, keep things w/Luck vague and try to bring him back if the team looks like they could do something w/a star QB, even a rusty and recovering one, under center.

Obviously the latter isn't going to happen now. Brisset looks worse now than ever. Doyle, Hilton, Moncrief, the OL, everyone on offense that either was good or has shown flashes seem to be regressing. Because our coaching staff has the reverse Midas touch.

The stated plan was to evaluate the staff based on player development. Well look at what hasn't happened. The writing is on the wall.

1965southpaw
10-23-2017, 11:22 AM
I buy into points 1 and 2,,,,,from the beginning Ballard was preaching patience and the long term aspect of this rebuild. I think he was prepared for this year to be extraordinarily bad which is why I said before that I think he was ok with Pagano being the front man for this suckage while he got his ducks in a row. I thing the Cowerd theory is way off on the Jacoby business. I think Ballard bought into chucks Tolzein love (bad on him) and didn't work on the QB position until it was clear that that was a dumpster fire too. I heard that Ballard had been scouting Jacoby for quite some time in KC which is why he was able to pull the trigger so quickly when it was clear that Scott wasn't viable. Everything else that may happen re upcoming draft is just a product of everything else vs a master plan. If his plan was to showcase Jacoby to fatten him up for trade bait he would have brought him in earlier when the poor kid had time to actually learn the system vs getting his ass handed to him when his head is buried in his armband.

Puck
10-23-2017, 11:45 AM
Brisset is a very talented athlete. He can make all the throws he can run and probably has better physical skill than half the QBs in the league now.

He just doesn't have the mental part yet. And it's hard to learn when your only thought is don't get killed on this play over and over

If he were behind a good oline he would be much better. And he is going to need a season in the system to get a better indersatanding of it

I don't want to trade him and this next draft class is pretty deep for QBs. So his value goes down because of that. But I doubt he is going to want to be a backup for very long. Right or wrong. He will want a shot

FatDT
10-23-2017, 11:58 AM
Brisset is a very talented athlete. He can make all the throws he can run and probably has better physical skill than half the QBs in the league now.

He just doesn't have the mental part yet. And it's hard to learn when your only thought is don't get killed on this play over and over

If he were behind a good oline he would be much better. And he is going to need a season in the system to get a better indersatanding of it

I don't want to trade him and this next draft class is pretty deep for QBs. So his value goes down because of that. But I doubt he is going to want to be a backup for very long. Right or wrong. He will want a shot

He potentially has a good situation coming up for his career. Assuming our next HC is either offensive or can bring in a good OC that fits Luck's skills and can be tailored to our playmakers, Brisset will be in good position to learn that mental side, play in a good system that protects the QB and let's him use his strengths. He could develop into a solid starter, which is good for the team (draft picks) and for him (even bad starting QBs make lots of money). And in the meantime we have a strong backup QB when we need it.

None of this can happen with the current trash coaching staff.