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1965southpaw
10-20-2017, 12:22 PM
Some key excerpts......

GM Chris Ballard and the Colts franchise have high hopes for Quincy Wilson. Wilson has shown great promise in the games he had played thus far. Yet for some reason, Pagano made Wilson a healthy scratch for the second week in a row because he has not developed into a consistent special teams player. Umm... what?!?

Wilson needs time to develop, yes. Every rookie does. The best way for them to develop is for them to play. In a way, Pagano is undercutting himself by saying Wilson has not developed. As we all know, Ballard and owner Jim Irsay stated the win/loss record may not matter in determining if Pagano keeps his job but the development of players absolutely will. By admitting Wilson has not developed, is Pagano not admitting fault and effectively sealing his fate by not developing players?

And.....
....Rumor has it Mack was benched for missing a blocking assignment that led to Brissett getting hit.

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2017/10/19/16496732/losing-now-to-win-later-when-should-the-colts-cut-chuck?ref=yfp

Pez
10-20-2017, 01:26 PM
I agree with all said about Pagsy, except I think we should fire him now.

4-5 wins would cause us to have a worse draft pick and we know it, but winning more than half of the remaining games would start to change the culture of this team, vs keeping them in limbo and then building that culture from scratch next year.

Spike
10-20-2017, 01:43 PM
Some key excerpts......

GM Chris Ballard and the Colts franchise have high hopes for Quincy Wilson. Wilson has shown great promise in the games he had played thus far. Yet for some reason, Pagano made Wilson a healthy scratch for the second week in a row because he has not developed into a consistent special teams player. Umm... what?!?

Wilson needs time to develop, yes. Every rookie does. The best way for them to develop is for them to play. In a way, Pagano is undercutting himself by saying Wilson has not developed. As we all know, Ballard and owner Jim Irsay stated the win/loss record may not matter in determining if Pagano keeps his job but the development of players absolutely will. By admitting Wilson has not developed, is Pagano not admitting fault and effectively sealing his fate by not developing players?

And.....
....Rumor has it Mack was benched for missing a blocking assignment that led to Brissett getting hit.

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2017/10/19/16496732/losing-now-to-win-later-when-should-the-colts-cut-chuck?ref=yfp

Mack and Wilson need to play. Pagano is too damn stupid to realize that. Damn, I hate that fucker coaching this team.

albany ed
10-20-2017, 02:46 PM
If Pagano was fired and replaced by Bozo the Clown, the Colts could win more games than if they keep him. Also, the Colts have been more effective when Mack is in the lineup. If Mack doesn't get much time this season, that makes a Colts victory less likely. RBs don't need a lot of development time, not like CBs or OLs. Keeping Pagano as HC and Luck out for the year will ensure a high draft choice. Mack will be fresh for next year and Gore will be gone.

Colts And Orioles
10-20-2017, 03:20 PM
If Pagano was fired and replaced by Bozo the Clown, the Colts could win more games than if they keep him. Also, the Colts have been more effective when Mack is in the lineup. If Mack doesn't get much time this season, that makes a Colts victory less likely. RBs don't need a lot of development time, not like CBs or OLs. Keeping Pagano as HC and Luck out for the year will ensure a high draft choice. Mack will be fresh for next year and Gore will be gone.




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njcoltfan
10-20-2017, 03:29 PM
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Sadly I think Bozo passed away, but I know Fisbo is alive and kicking.

FatDT
10-20-2017, 03:37 PM
Inactive for not "developing" enough on STs, benched for missing a blocking assignment (where's the benching for Vagisil missing his blocking assignments at LG??), seems like dumb ticky tacky shit beneath a HC in the NFL. Like when Philbin got bent out of shape over dumb shit as HC in Miami. The guy just isn't cut out to be a HC.

Luck4Reich
10-20-2017, 03:56 PM
Hell Chuck, based on those reasons half the team would be benched. Not catching the ball. The other half. Bench yourself while you are at it choppit clap clap.

VeveJones007
10-20-2017, 05:08 PM
I'm hoping that someone gives us a pick for Vontae in the next two weeks. That would give Wilson a starting spot and bring some value back.

omahacolt
10-20-2017, 06:31 PM
I'm hoping that someone gives us a pick for Vontae in the next two weeks. That would give Wilson a starting spot and bring some value back.

fuck that

i hope we bring davis back on a 3 year deal

apballin
10-20-2017, 08:32 PM
WTF is the problem you need your #3 CB to play ST your not too good pussy get the fuck out there!!!

Richard fucking Sherman and Kam Chancellor play ST when asked

If you baby that MF than how are you sending a message of "competition"

Racehorse
10-20-2017, 09:05 PM
WTF is the problem you need your #3 CB to play ST your not too good pussy get the fuck out there!!!

Richard fucking Sherman and Kam Chancellor play ST when asked

If you baby that MF than how are you sending a message of "competition"

It didn't say he refused, but that he hadn't developed well enough to do it.

Butter
10-20-2017, 09:31 PM
WTF is the problem you need your #3 CB to play ST your not too good pussy get the fuck out there!!!

Richard fucking Sherman and Kam Chancellor play ST when asked

If you baby that MF than how are you sending a message of "competition"

Way to make no sense and make an argument no one has put forth. Meth is bad M'kay. Regardless of the point that the 3rd CB is pretty much a starter now, teams are in nickel as much if not more than base.

FatDT
10-21-2017, 11:30 AM
Special teams are the easiest positions to play on the team. The team has had all summer and fall to get him trained. He is clearly one of the three most talented corners on the roster. He's big, fast, talented, he's played football for years. There's no reason he shouldn't be ready for STs. There's something else.

YDFL Commish
10-21-2017, 11:32 AM
Special teams are the easiest positions to play on the team. The team has had all summer and fall to get him trained. He is clearly one of the three most talented corners on the roster. He's big, fast, talented, he's played football for years. There's no reason he shouldn't be ready for STs. There's something else.

Yeah, Pags is an idiot.

Kray007
10-21-2017, 11:48 AM
Sadly I think Bozo passed away, but I know Fisbo is alive and kicking.

No, Manny's kicking.

VeveJones007
10-21-2017, 02:05 PM
fuck that

i hope we bring davis back on a 3 year deal

I don't think he'll age well and you'll regret years 2-3 on that deal. If you can structure the contract in a way that you can get out of it with limited cost like they did with Johnson and Cole, okay.

FatDT
10-21-2017, 02:13 PM
I don't think he'll age well and you'll regret years 2-3 on that deal. If you can structure the contract in a way that you can get out of it with limited cost like they did with Johnson and Cole, okay.

I think it’s pretty possible Davis will go downhill quickly. He’s never been that durable. But until Melvin, Wilson, and Hairston have some significant experience I would prefer to have a vet like Davis on the team. A short contract for a 30 year old corner with an injury history shouldn’t be that difficult. He hasn’t been a top 5 corner in years.

omahacolt
10-21-2017, 02:27 PM
I think it’s pretty possible Davis will go downhill quickly. He’s never been that durable. But until Melvin, Wilson, and Hairston have some significant experience I would prefer to have a vet like Davis on the team. A short contract for a 30 year old corner with an injury history shouldn’t be that difficult. He hasn’t been a top 5 corner in years.

He wasn't far from top ten for what he does last year. Imo of course

Indiana V2
10-21-2017, 02:59 PM
Yeah, Pags is an idiot.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

FatDT
10-21-2017, 04:44 PM
He wasn't far from top ten for what he does last year. Imo of course

Sure. So I want to keep him. I don’t think he’ll be that expensive.