Luck news!

[1965southpaw]

Ballard live in Facebook right now. They are stopping andrew throwing for now. Yikes! Will report back at end of his news conference.

[1965southpaw]

Ok so the word is that he's shut down for the foreseeable future to deal with soreness and inflammation. He's getting cortisone shots and they are characterizing this as a natural part of the healing process. He claims that his throwing and velocity are good and the shoulder is structurally sound. They just want to get him to a point where the inflammation and swelling are gone. He wouldn't speculate on timeline other than to say he doesn't think it will be too long. On the question of will he be back this season.....expect so. He said the sky is not falling and repeated that long term andrew's future is bright

On the question of Geathers said working through the process to get him medically cleared and it will be soon.

On question of 4th quarter implosions, he shares their frustration. That was the last question and he left quickly.

http://www.colts.com/news/article-1/Andrew-Luck-To-Miss-Practice-This-Week-After-Cortisone-Injection/b4548c6c-9132-4a88-84ea-a37da67b1dcd

[FatDT]

That sucks. But I'm glad Ballard isn't letting Pagano rush Luck back.

Wild guess is we don't see Luck til after the bye, if at all this season.

[Colt Classic]

He's not coming back this season. Just admit it already.

[Coltsalr]

Shut it down.

I’m loving the possibility of what getting a top draft pick would mean for this franchise in terms of acquiring assets if we sold off a potentially extremely valuable pick.

[njcoltfan]

He's not coming back this season. Just admit it already.

I’ve been saying that since they acquired Brissett, and with this OL that’s not a bad thing!

[Brylok]

Hey, Colts organization: stop pissing down my back and telling me it's raining!

[rcubed]

Just shut him down

[omahacolt]

That sucks. But I'm glad Ballard isn't letting Pagano rush Luck back.

Wild guess is we don't see Luck til after the bye, if at all this season.

yeah.

at this point i would be happy if he gets 4 games in to finish the year

[omahacolt]

Just shut him down

no

no need to do that yet

[omahacolt]

Shut it down.

I’m loving the possibility of what getting a top draft pick would mean for this franchise in terms of acquiring assets if we sold off a potentially extremely valuable pick.

i think there is value by staying on the active roster for now. unless the soreness just doesn't go away

[1965southpaw]

He was asked whether they considered putting him on IR to free up a roster spot and he said absolutely not.

[Maniac]

He was asked whether they considered putting him on IR to free up a roster spot and he said absolutely not.

Of course, it affects ticket sales.

[1965southpaw]

That may be but I hope he returns even if it's just for the last couple of games because I think it's an important part of his process to get some real game reps under his belt so he can come back next year with a new head coach and really be back in game form vs still be in a recovery process.

[omahacolt]

Of course, it affects ticket sales.

i don't think that has anything to do with it at this point

[Racehorse]

i don't think that has anything to do with it at this point

Yeah, most Tickets are already paid for.

[Maniac]

Yeah, most Tickets are already paid for.

It can drastically affect the secondary ticket market. If ticket scalpers/agencies/etc can't sell their tickets, or if some people stop going, it affects the team's pocket books with concessions, apparel, and other game day sales. I saw one figure for 2013 where the Colts got $5.2 million from concessions.

It also may affect how much the advertisers pay during the game for commercials.

[omahacolt]

It can drastically affect the secondary ticket market. If ticket scalpers/agencies/etc can't sell their tickets, or if some people stop going, it affects the team's pocket books with concessions, apparel, and other game day sales. I saw one figure for 2013 where the Colts got $5.2 million from concessions.

It also may affect how much the advertisers pay during the game for commercials.

you are wrong

[ChoppedWood]

Shocked, just absolutely shocked...

Jim Irsay is a con-artist...

[GoBigBlue88]

I don't mind a lost year in which this team accrues draft capital while blooding its young players.

I do mind a lost year in which this team has Pagano as a lame duck coach, teaching players a system that won't be in place a year from now and not blooding young players in the process.

[DrSpaceman]

I am more and more of the mindset its pointless to bring Luck back this year.

I did not feel that way a month ago or really even two weeks ago.

Week after week though of poor coaching and blown leads, this team is going nowhere this yar

[Brylok]

It can drastically affect the secondary ticket market. If ticket scalpers/agencies/etc can't sell their tickets, or if some people stop going, it affects the team's pocket books with concessions, apparel, and other game day sales. I saw one figure for 2013 where the Colts got $5.2 million from concessions.

It also may affect how much the advertisers pay during the game for commercials.
It isn't so much that, it's a problem with the overall fan base. Like it or not, the Colts (and Pacers) have a relatively weak fan base. If the teams aren't good, people won't pay much attention. Sure, there are some die-hard fans, but many of the people paying big money for the good seats are fair-weather. It's the reason that the roof is never open for a game at LOS. The fans would complain about being uncomfortable not having air-conditioning during the game. Irsay knows this from pre-Manning years of experience. It has improved since those days, but could pretty easily slide back. THAT is the main concern and the reason for the crap going on now.

I can say this because I'm from there and grew up with it. Hell, I stopped watching the Pacers (and NBA) after they lost to the Lakers in the Finals in 1999/2000. They will never win a title, so I stopped wasting my time. When I was in grade school, the Pacers would give free tickets to the schools. I attended many a game in Market Square Arena back in the Wayman Tisdale days for free. We'd get free tickets and my friend's parents would load us into the car and off we'd go.
/my longest post ever

[smitty46953]

/my longest post ever

"Congrats, I am really really proud." Chuck Pagano

*(as heard daily on Dan Dakich Show)

:cool:

[VeveJones007]

no

no need to do that yet

Yep. Guy didn't throw a ball for 9 months. Those muscles have to get back into throwing shape. It's why I was always pessimistic about the record predictions this year. He was always unlikely to be "right" until late in the season anyway.

[VeveJones007]

Shut it down.

I’m loving the possibility of what getting a top draft pick would mean for this franchise in terms of acquiring assets if we sold off a potentially extremely valuable pick.

Those two wins hurt. It would've been nice to be ahead of Cleveland or SF in the pecking order. Those teams need QBs and may have overpaid to move up like the Bears did.

[Puck]

Those two wins hurt. It would've been nice to be ahead of Cleveland or SF in the pecking order. Those teams need QBs and may have overpaid to move up like the Bears did.

Yep need to become Browns and 9er fans quick!

[Coltsalr]

Those two wins hurt. It would've been nice to be ahead of Cleveland or SF in the pecking order. Those teams need QBs and may have overpaid to move up like the Bears did.

True, though there’s potentially three franchise QB’s that could go for a bevy of picks.

[albany ed]

It's really beginning to look like a shut down year for Luck. I'm okay with that unless it also means that Pagano gets another chance next year.

[testcase448]

Shut it down.

I’m loving the possibility of what getting a top draft pick would mean for this franchise in terms of acquiring assets if we sold off a potentially extremely valuable pick.

Which we should have done with the Luck pick.
I said it then, I was right as hindsight has shown

[VeveJones007]

Which we should have done with the Luck pick.
I said it then, I was right as hindsight has shown

I'm curious of the evidence for why you feel vindicated.

[Dewey 5]

It's really beginning to look like a shut down year for Luck. I'm okay with that unless it also means that Pagano gets another chance next year.
I feel the same. It's not like Pagano hasn't played the injury card before to save his ass.

[rcubed]

I dont get the sense that ballard likes pagano for the coach. Irsay told him to give pags one year (without grigson) and then make a decision. Being late in the process of hiring and that ballard wanted the job, he agreed.

Pagano needed to show some real coaching talent to retain his job and he hasnt done that. He has no injury card to play with ballard. Ballard got him a really good back up QB but pags flaws are still evident.

Toub will be our couch next year unless some "name" becomes available that irsay insists upon (harbaugh).

[1965southpaw]

I dont get the sense that ballard likes pagano for the coach. Irsay told him to give pags one year (without grigson) and then make a decision. Being late in the process of hiring and that ballard wanted the job, he agreed.

Pagano needed to show some real coaching talent to retain his job and he hasnt done that. He has no injury card to play with ballard. Ballard got him a really good back up QB but pags flaws are still evident.

Toub will be our couch next year unless some "name" becomes available that irsay insists upon (harbaugh).



Agree completely. It was way too late to hire a quality coach when Ballard got there (thanks a lot Jim)........I forget which politician said this but you never want to waste a good crisis......I think Ballard was perfectly fine rolling with Chuckles cause smart guy that he is realized that the roster was a dumpster fire and would take two solid years of rebuild. By letting Jim keep Pagano he has a perfect target for fan fury while we suck this year while he puts his attention on the massive rebuild that this organization needs. Ballard has gone on record saying that his criteria for coach evaluation is talent development not just wins and losses. I am 100% confident that Pagano will be replaced. I think the only question is whether it will be mid season or not. I think the only scenario for mid season is if we have another massive blowout at a Home game. Jimmy doesn't like to be embarrassed.

[rcubed]

Agree completely. It was way too late to hire a quality coach when Ballard got there (thanks a lot Jim)........I forget which politician said this but you never want to waste a good crisis......I think Ballard was perfectly fine rolling with Chuckles cause smart guy that he is realized that the roster was a dumpster fire and would take two solid years of rebuild. By letting Jim keep Pagano he has a perfect target for fan fury while we suck this year while he puts his attention on the massive rebuild that this organization needs. Ballard has gone on record saying that his criteria for coach evaluation is talent development not just wins and losses. I am 100% confident that Pagano will be replaced. I think the only question is whether it will be mid season or not. I think the only scenario for mid season is if we have another massive blowout at a Home game. Jimmy doesn't like to be embarrassed.
I like that quote about not wasting a good crisis.

I dont think he will get replaced mid season unless there is a player mutiny. There is no real advantage to making an in season change unless the players are rebelling.

[Hoopsdoc]

Which we should have done with the Luck pick.
I said it then, I was right as hindsight has shown

Wait, you're saying they shouldn't have drafted Luck? Am I reading that right?

[omahacolt]

Which we should have done with the Luck pick.
I said it then, I was right as hindsight has shown

you were wrong then and now

[Dam8610]

Shut it down.

I’m loving the possibility of what getting a top draft pick would mean for this franchise in terms of acquiring assets if we sold off a potentially extremely valuable pick.

No, a high draft pick needs to be a defensive stalwart, something to compliment Luck and build a defense around. I'm sure one of those exists in this draft.

[testcase448]

Wait, you're saying they shouldn't have drafted Luck? Am I reading that right?

That's exactly correct, build a team, THEN add a QB. Throwing a frachise QB in the situation Luck faced just gets them killed.

What have we got for drafting Luck? A team pretty bare across the board talent wise except Luck, who is damaged.

[testcase448]

you were wrong then and now

Nope, spot on actually

[Butter]

It isn't so much that, it's a problem with the overall fan base. Like it or not, the Colts (and Pacers) have a relatively weak fan base. If the teams aren't good, people won't pay much attention. Sure, there are some die-hard fans, but many of the people paying big money for the good seats are fair-weather. It's the reason that the roof is never open for a game at LOS. The fans would complain about being uncomfortable not having air-conditioning during the game. Irsay knows this from pre-Manning years of experience. It has improved since those days, but could pretty easily slide back. THAT is the main concern and the reason for the crap going on now.

I can say this because I'm from there and grew up with it. Hell, I stopped watching the Pacers (and NBA) after they lost to the Lakers in the Finals in 1999/2000. They will never win a title, so I stopped wasting my time. When I was in grade school, the Pacers would give free tickets to the schools. I attended many a game in Market Square Arena back in the Wayman Tisdale days for free. We'd get free tickets and my friend's parents would load us into the car and off we'd go.
/my longest post ever

It is as much about the fact it is a fairly small market with its edges having a fairly strong historical affiliation with other markets. It makes it hard to have as many diehard fans. Shit look at how poorly many larger markets have done with teams struggling, the Colts fan base does not look so bad then. We are certainly not Browns fans, but we could be LA fans.

[Spike]

That's exactly correct, build a team, THEN add a QB. Throwing a frachise QB in the situation Luck faced just gets them killed.

What have we got for drafting Luck? A team pretty bare across the board talent wise except Luck, who is damaged.

Nope, you don't pass on a QB like Luck. If Griggs and Pags had done their job correctly, we would have a real team by now. To pass on Luck would have been idiotic.

[Brylok]

"Congrats, I am really really proud." Chuck Pagano

*(as heard daily on Dan Dakich Show)

:cool:
I've been listening here and there this season. Those congratulations segments make me laugh.

[Brylok]

It is as much about the fact it is a fairly small market with its edges having a fairly strong historical affiliation with other markets. It makes it hard to have as many diehard fans. Shit look at how poorly many larger markets have done with teams struggling, the Colts fan base does not look so bad then. We are certainly not Browns fans, but we could be LA fans.
That's also true. I failed to mention it before, but many die hard fans have been priced out of attendance. The lower-income die hards are the fans that roar during games. But after the necessities are paid for, there's no Colts budget. It's probably the same everywhere, but being in a small market makes it worse.

[VeveJones007]

No, a high draft pick needs to be a defensive stalwart, something to compliment Luck and build a defense around. I'm sure one of those exists in this draft.

It doesn't have to be a huge trade down if someone right behind the Colts is dumb like the Bears were with SF last year. Having a higher pick just gives the Colts more options.

[Maniac]

That's exactly correct, build a team, THEN add a QB. Throwing a frachise QB in the situation Luck faced just gets them killed.

What have we got for drafting Luck? A team pretty bare across the board talent wise except Luck, who is damaged.

That's dumb.

When you get the chance to draft a franchise QB and you need one, you do it. The failure to build a team around Luck wasn't because they drafted a franchise QB. They just made stupid draft choices and free agent choices.

The quickest path to success in this league is having a franchise QB. That's why they are so valuable, because they make that much of a difference. You don't EVER pass that up if you have a need there.

[testcase448]

That's dumb.

When you get the chance to draft a franchise QB and you need one, you do it. The failure to build a team around Luck wasn't because they drafted a franchise QB. They just made stupid draft choices and free agent choices.

The quickest path to success in this league is having a franchise QB. That's why they are so valuable, because they make that much of a difference. You don't EVER pass that up if you have a need there.

I disagree, it's stupid to invest in a franchise QB and throwing them to the wolves, as they did with Luck. How many franchise QBs have been ruined by going to bad teams? Nearly all of them...
By the time you build the team around him, he is out of his rookie contract and the cap becomes a huge issue. Also, free agent builds seldom work. They're free agents because they are no longer cost effective

I recall this board giddy with Pagano and Griggs coming in...

[Maniac]

I disagree, it's stupid to invest in a franchise QB and throwing them to the wolves, as they did with Luck. How many franchise QBs have been ruined by going to bad teams? Nearly all of them...
By the time you build the team around him, he is out of his rookie contract and the cap becomes a huge issue. Also, free agent builds seldom work. They're free agents because they are no longer cost effective

I recall this board giddy with Pagano and Griggs coming in...

people are always optimistic when new people come on board, what does that have to do with anything? Clearly the results from them didn't come through for the team.

You don't plan on throwing a franchise QB to the wolves. To just assume that's what you're going to do is basically saying "I can't do my job, just fire me now." It's a failure way of looking at it. That's not how you approach building a team, ever.

[omahacolt]

people are always optimistic when new people come on board, what does that have to do with anything? Clearly the results from them didn't come through for the team.

You don't plan on throwing a franchise QB to the wolves. To just assume that's what you're going to do is basically saying "I can't do my job, just fire me now." It's a failure way of looking at it. That's not how you approach building a team, ever.

don't bother with him, jesus


he is too stupid to be saved.

[testcase448]

don't bother with him, jesus


he is too stupid to be saved.


You calling people stupid is pretty funny .

Your intellectual arguments are like bring kid's safety scissors to a gun fight.

You're like a parrot repeating the imbeciles in ESPN.

[testcase448]

Nothing like watching a balanced team with no franchise QB beating the fuck out of a team that drafted one...

[Maniac]

Nothing like watching a balanced team with no franchise QB beating the fuck out of a team that drafted one...

The team that drafted one did it to them for over a decade...and to the titans...and to the texans, and most of the league.

Here's the thing about your argument. The Jags have a ton of talent, but no franchise QB. They won't win a superbowl without one and they would give up anything to get one so they could compete for a superbowl. They didn't build their team like this because they WANTED to. They are building this way because they can't find a franchise QB, and that is holding them back.

I guarantee you that if you asked any GM in the league if they would prefer to start off with a franchise QB like Luck to build a team around, EVERY ONE OF THEM would say "hell yes".

Get out of here with your dumb ass argument.

[Coltsalr]

@TonyD1070
I am told, by a source I trust, that Andrew Luck will not play this year. Which has obviously been mentioned many times.

[albany ed]

@TonyD1070
I am told, by a source I trust, that Andrew Luck will not play this year. Which has obviously been mentioned many times.

I'm OK with that, since by the time he could be ready, the playoffs will be out of reach. But, somehow the team needs to know that Luck will be 100+% for next year. Ideally he needs to see some kind of action when healthy in order to determine if the Colts need to address a starting QB need in the draft. Clearly, Jacoby is a #2 and IMO, will never be a quality starting QB.

[FatDT]

I'm OK with that, since by the time he could be ready, the playoffs will be out of reach. But, somehow the team needs to know that Luck will be 100+% for next year. Ideally he needs to see some kind of action when healthy in order to determine if the Colts need to address a starting QB need in the draft. Clearly, Jacoby is a #2 and IMO, will never be a quality starting QB.

I think Brisket could be more with better coaching. He's still a young player, and he's not developed enough to overcome the factors dragging him and this team down.

[HoosierinFL]

The team that drafted one did it to them for over a decade...and to the titans...and to the texans, and most of the league.

Here's the thing about your argument. The Jags have a ton of talent, but no franchise QB. They won't win a superbowl without one and they would give up anything to get one so they could compete for a superbowl. They didn't build their team like this because they WANTED to. They are building this way because they can't find a franchise QB, and that is holding them back.

I guarantee you that if you asked any GM in the league if they would prefer to start off with a franchise QB like Luck to build a team around, EVERY ONE OF THEM would say "hell yes".

Get out of here with your dumb ass argument.

They drafted Bortles with a high pick because they thought he was gonna be one. They were wrong, but they absolutely have tried to get a franchise QB with a high draft pick.

[Maniac]

I'm OK with that, since by the time he could be ready, the playoffs will be out of reach. But, somehow the team needs to know that Luck will be 100+% for next year. Ideally he needs to see some kind of action when healthy in order to determine if the Colts need to address a starting QB need in the draft. Clearly, Jacoby is a #2 and IMO, will never be a quality starting QB.

He's just experiencing soreness when throwing, that's natural and part of the recovery. I have read where labrum tear can take 6-9 months to recover. They are at the 9 month end of it now. He's going to have to work through the soreness and he'll be fine. Supposedly it wasn't a complete tear like Bree's was, so I don't think there is any reason to worry about having to find another starting QB and such.

What they need to worry about is finding someone to actually protect him when he's back next season. This offensive line is a mess.

[Maniac]

They drafted Bortles with a high pick because they thought he was gonna be one. They were wrong, but they absolutely have tried to get a franchise QB with a high draft pick.

Yep and they failed, so the way they are building the team right now isn't because they chose to do it this way. They WANT a franchise QB....badly... they just can't get one. That goes to show how valuable franchise QB's are and why you don't just let one go when you find one and expect you can just find another anytime you want. There are teams out there who haven't had one for decades, and their franchises are worse off for it.

[albany ed]

He's just experiencing soreness when throwing, that's natural and part of the recovery. I have read where labrum tear can take 6-9 months to recover. They are at the 9 month end of it now. He's going to have to work through the soreness and he'll be fine. Supposedly it wasn't a complete tear like Bree's was, so I don't think there is any reason to worry about having to find another starting QB and such.

What they need to worry about is finding someone to actually protect him when he's back next season. This offensive line is a mess.

I'm sure you're right about Luck, I just would rather KNOW you're right.

[testcase448]

The team that drafted one did it to them for over a decade...and to the titans...and to the texans, and most of the league.


Two Super Bowls, one win. Manning caried them there. He had parts of the puzzle in place. Luck isn't Manning, hell BRADY isn't Manning. Name a "franchise " QB that gets this team anywhere for the next several years. IF they survive the beating


Here's the thing about your argument. The Jags have a ton of talent, but no franchise QB. They won't win a superbowl without one and they would give up anything to get one so they could compete for a superbowl. They didn't build their team like this because they WANTED to. They are building this way because they can't find a franchise QB, and that is holding them back.


27 to 0, we won't be competetive with them for about 4-5 years now.Or Hoston, or Nashville..Or the Jets or ANYBODY but CLeveland maybe.
Luck is damaged goods. Maybe we get a shot at another franchise QB this year, and next.... and the year after. Drafting first does result in opportunity to draft fanchise QBs. Maybe that's the plan, draft one every few years!


I guarantee you that if you asked any GM in the league if they would prefer to start off with a franchise QB like Luck to build a team around, EVERY ONE OF THEM would say "hell yes".

KC builds a solid team, adds Alex Smith...
OAKLAND Derek Carr, 36th pick
Case Keenum Vikings5-2
Bills, Tyrod Taylor LMAO 6th round pick 4-2
Miami 4-2 with Cutler?
Dak Prescott 4th round.. he just beat the fuck outta a team on their field by 30 we BARELY managed to beat at home



Get out of here with your dumb ass argument.

My "dumbass arguement"seems pretty not dumbass compared to completely obvious statements like "every GM wants a franchise QB"
No kidding moron. Really?
But here's a gold plated fact, everyone of those teams I just listed are a shit load better than us and not a damn franchise QB in the lot that YOU"D trade Luck for.
Now ask all those drooling GMs if they'd trade TEAMS, give up their solid TEAMS for Luck. What would they give? Which team
The answer is no.

[Racehorse]

Two Super Bowls, one win. Manning caried them there. He had parts of the puzzle in place. Luck isn't Manning, hell BRADY isn't Manning. Name a "franchise " QB that gets this team anywhere for the next several years. IF they survive the beating



27 to 0, we won't be competetive with them for about 4-5 years now.Or Hoston, or Nashville..Or the Jets or ANYBODY but CLeveland maybe.
Luck is damaged goods. Maybe we get a shot at another franchise QB this year, and next.... and the year after. Drafting first does result in opportunity to draft fanchise QBs. Maybe that's the plan, draft one every few years!



KC builds a solid team, adds Alex Smith...
OAKLAND Derek Carr, 36th pick
Case Keenum Vikings5-2
Bills, Tyrod Taylor LMAO 6th round pick 4-2
Miami 4-2 with Cutler?
Dak Prescott 4th round.. he just beat the fuck outta a team on their field by 30 we BARELY managed to beat at home



My "dumbass arguement"seems pretty not dumbass compared to completely obvious statements like "every GM wants a franchise QB"
No kidding moron. Really?
But here's a gold plated fact, everyone of those teams I just listed are a shit load better than us and not a damn franchise QB in the lot that YOU"D trade Luck for.
Now ask all those drooling GMs if they'd trade TEAMS, give up their solid TEAMS for Luck. What would they give? Which team
The answer is no.

Serious question: What do you consider the definitionof a franchise QB to be, because it seems that you really don't know what it is, based on this post.

Also, if you replace the Moron in charge, this team will look immensely better.

[Maniac]

My "dumbass arguement"seems pretty not dumbass

No, it's even more of a dumbass argument after all that stupid crap you posted. You just look worse with each post.

[DrSpaceman]

I am fine with Luck out for the year. I'd prefer it.

I have changed my mind on that the last few weeks. If we had won one of the games vs Jags/Tenn it would be different. We'd be 3-4, still in division race, still something to play for.

As it is, this season is over, plan for next season.

[Coltsalr]

@mortreport
Andrew Luck seeking other opinions because shoulder is "not progressing as expected," source confirms earlier report by @JayGlazer

[Indiana V2]

@mortreport
Andrew Luck seeking other opinions because shoulder is "not progressing as expected," source confirms earlier report by @JayGlazer

Well, they broke him after all.

[Indiana V2]

Mort says Luck is seeking other opinions because he's frustrated. Wonder if he's frustrated with how it's healing or frustrated with the Colts organization with how they're handling his rehab.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mortreport/status/924827014879694848

[Dewey 5]

Mort says Luck is seeking other opinions because he's frustrated. Wonder if he's frustrated with how it's healing or frustrated with the Colts organization with how they're handling his rehab.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mortreport/status/924827014879694848

Probably both.

[Gimmick]

Sad to say but if you're a good player, it would be in your best interests to stay as far away from the Colts roster as you possibly can. Until ownership changes, this organization is bottom feeder of the NFL.

[Coltsalr]

Mort saying it’s not believed to be serious is encouraging, however. I tend to trust Mort nowadays, I doubt too many sources are looking to burn him nowadays, lest they risk going to hell.

I’m happy with shutting Luck down in a lost season, as well. Cowherd has hinted at there being a possible arrangement between Luck/Luck’s Dad and Ballard for Luck to sit out the season and get back next year when everyone is more ready. Not saying it’s fact, but Cowherd did float it out there at the beginning of the season, after he’d had a long talk with Ballard and this has admittedly been playing out in much the same way if you had scripted such a thing happening.

[GoBigBlue88]

Count me in the camp that believes he'll definitely play again and the Colts are right to be super cautious. I just hope he isn't 30 by the time he plays again...

[testcase448]

Count me in the camp that believes he'll definitely play again and the Colts are right to be super cautious. I just hope he isn't 30 by the time he plays again...

He'll be 35-40 by the time they build a competitive team around him, IF he isn't already finished

[1965southpaw]

Count me in the camp that believes he'll definitely play again and the Colts are right to be super cautious. I just hope he isn't 30 by the time he plays again...

Stephen Holder on this question this morning on Grady and Big Joe......."I can't reveal my sources but trust me when i say that the Colts brass are not entertaining the scenario that Andrew's career is over...even as a worst case scenario....stop listening to your FAcebook friends that say andrew is finished.....they (colts) remain confident that he will come back from this injury but they are concerned it's taking longer than expected and in an abundance of caution are pursuing every option available. This is about andrew, his health, and the long term interests of the colts. Him playing this year or never playing again are not in the equation".....this isn't a literal quote but pretty darn close to exactly what he said.

As I said before, DQ can shut the fuck up....this kind of speculation is no bueno.

[rcubed]

Luck is not playing this season.

[testcase448]

Luck is not playing this season.

At this point, "what difference does it make?"

[Racehorse]

At this point, "what difference does it make?"

Well, if Luck sits, when the draft rolls around, we will be the only team that will know if we are drafting a QB or not. That could help us get more from a trade. Maybe.