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HoosierinFL
02-27-2017, 10:15 PM
And it's not good
http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blogs-local/indianapolis-colts-defensive-lineman-david-parry-arrested-in-the-valley

Fuck

Butter
02-27-2017, 10:35 PM
Theft? What the hell is a guy with a pretty good income doing stealing shit. Sigh.

GoBigBlue88
02-27-2017, 10:43 PM
Wait, so you mean firing Ryan Grigson DIDN'T cure the bullshit culture surrounding this team?

You mean Pagano might actually have a hand in the losing/unaccountability culture of this team?

Shocked, I tell ya.

Indiana V2
02-27-2017, 11:04 PM
Wow, just amazing how dumb some people are.

Dam8610
02-27-2017, 11:11 PM
Wait, so you mean firing Ryan Grigson DIDN'T cure the bullshit culture surrounding this team?

You mean Pagano might actually have a hand in the losing/unaccountability culture of this team?

Shocked, I tell ya.

WTF is this nonsense? A stretch, putting it mildly. How in the hell are you going to blame Pagano for a player doing some dumb bullshit in the offseason? I guess in your world, Belicheat cultivates a culture of murder, and John Harbaugh a culture of domestic violence as well? I know most of you hate Pagano, but this is ludicrous.

sherck
02-27-2017, 11:40 PM
As my wife just said when i read her this, "you can't fix stupid."

Goodness, how dumb can you be.

Cheers,

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Flexo
02-27-2017, 11:41 PM
Always knew Parry was a thug.

rcubed
02-28-2017, 12:11 AM
dumbass.

Brylok
02-28-2017, 01:05 AM
Always knew Parry was a thug.
How?

Spike
02-28-2017, 01:53 AM
Wait, so you mean firing Ryan Grigson DIDN'T cure the bullshit culture surrounding this team?

You mean Pagano might actually have a hand in the losing/unaccountability culture of this team?

Shocked, I tell ya.

Pagano sucks as a coach, but you really can't blame him for this shit. It's all on Parry for being a dumb ass.

njcoltfan
02-28-2017, 07:06 AM
Goodbye Mr. Parry, hello Mr. Poe !! ( hopefully )

sherck
02-28-2017, 07:51 AM
It will be interesting to see how this one plays out.

Mr. McAfee also had a run in with getting arrested while drunk and doing some stupid stuff in public. He was not immediately kicked off the team.

Now, McAfee's stunt did not involve assaulting anyone nor theft of a vehicle so there is a difference.

D'Q Jackson did assault a pizza delivery guy and was not immediately kicked off the team.

I think that how Parry responds to the incident will determine if he is a Colt in the fall. Irsay has a pretty big ability to forgive someone who shows that he is willing to work to put stuff like this behind him.

Does not make Parry any less stupid. But, I would not automatically assume that he is off the team.

And we will still need 2 NTs for a good rotation. Kerr is not really anything other than Just Another Guy (JAG) and I would prefer to have two good NTs if we could.

Of course, we could sign Poe or Brandon Williams and then draft a kid like Deangelo Brown out of Louisville in the 5th round. Brown did not get a combine invite but he should have; he has been a very good NT for 3 years now.

Cheers,

GoBigBlue88
02-28-2017, 08:40 AM
Pagano sucks as a coach, but you really can't blame him for this shit. It's all on Parry for being a dumb ass.

Yes you can. Pagano has installed a culture of zero accountability. It's the same reason multiple players have been busted for PED use and arrests have been a problem with this team before. It's the same reason this team does dumb things on the field, too.

Coltsalr
02-28-2017, 09:43 AM
For now, there seems to be a perception that Ballard might not be so opposed to bringing in guys with character issues (Tyreek Hill and Marcus Peters being guys that he supposedly was integral in bringing in).

That said, does he do so for a guy that's probably below league average at this position in Parry? Does he go through the hassle of waiting out a suspension for him, as would seem likely to assuredly happen?

I'm thinking he's probably not going to make the final roster, but he might not be cut immediately. They can keep him around and let him compete in training camp, but assuming that Ballard has completed the overhaul of this D that we all expect, this will just be one more checked box that Parry will not have when they're making final evaluations.

sherck
02-28-2017, 11:39 AM
For now, there seems to be a perception that Ballard might not be so opposed to bringing in guys with character issues (Tyreek Hill and Marcus Peters being guys that he supposedly was integral in bringing in).

That said, does he do so for a guy that's probably below league average at this position in Parry? Does he go through the hassle of waiting out a suspension for him, as would seem likely to assuredly happen?

I'm thinking he's probably not going to make the final roster, but he might not be cut immediately. They can keep him around and let him compete in training camp, but assuming that Ballard has completed the overhaul of this D that we all expect, this will just be one more checked box that Parry will not have when they're making final evaluations.
Holy crud! What does it take to show that a guy is getting it done in the NFL?
From my "State of the Colts" Defensive Line post:
2016 Stats for Top 3-4 Nose Tackles:

68 tackles / 8 TFL / 7.0 sacks / 2 FF / 23 years old / Drafted #006 overall 2015 / Leonard Williams, NYJ
59 tackles / 1 TFL / 1.5 sacks / 0 FF / 24 years old / Drafted #012 overall 2015 / Danny Shelton, CLE
51 tackles / 3 TFL / 1.0 sacks / 0 FF / 28 years old / Drafted #094 overall 2013 / Brandon Williams, BAL
47 tackles / 1 TFL / 3.0 sacks / 0 FF / 25 years old / Drafted #151 overall 2015 / David Parry, IND
39 tackles / 3 TFL / 3.5 sacks / 0 FF / 27 years old / Drafted #003 overall 2011 / Marcell Dareus, BUF
33 tackles / 3 TFL / 1.0 sacks / 1 FF / 30 years old / Drafted #032 overall 2009 / Ziggy Hood, WAS
29 tackles / 3 TFL / 1.0 sacks / 0 FF / 28 years old / Drafted #028 overall 2013 / Sylvester Williams, DEN
27 tackles / 3 TFL / 2.0 sacks / 0 FF / 24 years old / Drafted #089 overall 2016 / Javon Hargrave, PIT
27 tackles / 1 TFL / 1.5 sacks / 1 FF / 27 years old / Drafted #011 overall 2012 / Dontari Poe, KC
Performance on the field matters! For a 3-4 NT, a pretty darn good judge of if the guy is being effective or not is if he is getting tackles. And if you watch Colts football at all, you can see him getting penetration and splitting double teams on a fairly regular basis.

Is he the best NT in the league? Nope, not by a long shot. Will he ever be? Probably not.

He is the problem right now on a pretty bad 3-4 defense? No he is not and to say that he is easily replaceable is a pretty dumb statement.

Goodness, half of you want to dismantle whatever small success we have had on defense to spite our face. The key to getting better is staying status quo on the few guys whom are at least NFL average or better (Parry, Davis, Geathers.....ummmm, help me out here.......) and replace the folks that are not with better folks.

Not get rid of one of the few guys who was doing his job last season.

Get rid of him because he is a dumb shit, sure. If management does that I will not bat an eye.

But, for goodness sake, give him credit for being one of the most productive 3-4 NTs last year because he was. Don't downgrade his performance on the field just because you were not paying attention or have decided that because he was a low round draft choice that he cannot be any good. Robert Mathis, Jeff Saturday and Antonine Bethea would all be laughing at you.

Sorry. Bad day at work. I needed to vent.

Cheers,

Coltsalr
02-28-2017, 11:49 AM
Holy crud! What does it take to show that a guy is getting it done in the NFL?
From my "State of the Colts" Defensive Line post:

Performance on the field matters! For a 3-4 NT, a pretty darn good judge of if the guy is being effective or not is if he is getting tackles. And if you watch Colts football at all, you can see him getting penetration and splitting double teams on a fairly regular basis.

Is he the best NT in the league? Nope, not by a long shot. Will he ever be? Probably not.

He is the problem right now on a pretty bad 3-4 defense? No he is not and to say that he is easily replaceable is a pretty dumb statement.

Goodness, half of you want to dismantle whatever small success we have had on defense to spite our face. The key to getting better is staying status quo on the few guys whom are at least NFL average or better (Parry, Davis, Geathers.....ummmm, help me out here.......) and replace the folks that are not with better folks.

Not get rid of one of the few guys who was doing his job last season.

Get rid of him because he is a dumb shit, sure. If management does that I will not bat an eye.

But, for goodness sake, give him credit for being one of the most productive 3-4 NTs last year because he was. Don't downgrade his performance on the field just because you were not paying attention or have decided that because he was a low round draft choice that he cannot be any good. Robert Mathis, Jeff Saturday and Antonine Bethea would all be laughing at you.

Sorry. Bad day at work. I needed to vent.

Cheers,

According to PFF, which I know you've cited many times, he was even worse than I insinuated:

Last year, Parry graded as just the No. 110 interior defender among 127 qualifiers, per Pro Football Focus.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2017/02/colts-dt-david-parry-arrested

My eye test, which is admittedly limited, seemed to indicate that he had taken a step back. Combine that with PFF giving him some poor grades throughout the season, and I thought it was a fairly safe bet that he was at least below average.

woodyscolts
02-28-2017, 01:16 PM
WTF is this nonsense? A stretch, putting it mildly. How in the hell are you going to blame Pagano for a player doing some dumb bullshit in the offseason? I guess in your world, Belicheat cultivates a culture of murder, and John Harbaugh a culture of domestic violence as well? I know most of you hate Pagano, but this is ludicrous.
And how could you possibly say firing Grigson did not have anything to do with changing the culture when Grigs was fired after the end of the season and Grigs could have had no influence one way or the other.

natagu23
02-28-2017, 01:23 PM
Wait, so you mean firing Ryan Grigson DIDN'T cure the bullshit culture surrounding this team?

You mean Pagano might actually have a hand in the losing/unaccountability culture of this team?

Shocked, I tell ya.

Dumb post

natagu23
02-28-2017, 01:32 PM
Holy crud! What does it take to show that a guy is getting it done in the NFL?
From my "State of the Colts" Defensive Line post:

Performance on the field matters! For a 3-4 NT, a pretty darn good judge of if the guy is being effective or not is if he is getting tackles. And if you watch Colts football at all, you can see him getting penetration and splitting double teams on a fairly regular basis.

Is he the best NT in the league? Nope, not by a long shot. Will he ever be? Probably not.

He is the problem right now on a pretty bad 3-4 defense? No he is not and to say that he is easily replaceable is a pretty dumb statement.

Goodness, half of you want to dismantle whatever small success we have had on defense to spite our face. The key to getting better is staying status quo on the few guys whom are at least NFL average or better (Parry, Davis, Geathers.....ummmm, help me out here.......) and replace the folks that are not with better folks.

Not get rid of one of the few guys who was doing his job last season.

Get rid of him because he is a dumb shit, sure. If management does that I will not bat an eye.

But, for goodness sake, give him credit for being one of the most productive 3-4 NTs last year because he was. Don't downgrade his performance on the field just because you were not paying attention or have decided that because he was a low round draft choice that he cannot be any good. Robert Mathis, Jeff Saturday and Antonine Bethea would all be laughing at you.

Sorry. Bad day at work. I needed to vent.

Cheers,

Stats can be very misleading. Kinda reminds me when Angerer was getting all those tackles but a lot of them were like 10-15 yards beyond the LOS.

Parry is rotational at best.

Btw, Leonard Williams doesnt play nose.

sherck
02-28-2017, 01:34 PM
According to PFF, which I know you've cited many times, he was even worse than I insinuated:



https://www.profootballrumors.com/2017/02/colts-dt-david-parry-arrested

My eye test, which is admittedly limited, seemed to indicate that he had taken a step back. Combine that with PFF giving him some poor grades throughout the season, and I thought it was a fairly safe bet that he was at least below average.
Well that is interesting.

I don't pay for PFF grades so the only ones that I ever have access to are the free ones that they put into their articles. I had not seen one for Parry up until you posted it.

It is interesting that he can have the 4th highest tackle number of all 3-4 NTs in the league but somehow be graded in the bottom 15% of all defensive linemen in the league.

My eye test saw him splitting double teams with some frequency and making piles to re-route runners. Granted, his piles were sometimes 3 - 4 yards downfield which is not ideal but I really felt like he was one of the few on our D-line that was playing at least NFL average.

So, I apologize if I came off harsh earlier. I was judging by performance and you were using PFF grades which I often agree with. On this player, I would like to know how they are grading because their grade does not correspond with my view of his performance.

Cheers,

Coltsalr
02-28-2017, 02:01 PM
Elsewhere, David Parry is a complete idiot:

Parry, whose eyes were watery and bloodshot and whose speech was slurred, laughed and thought being arrested for robbery and auto theft was comical, according to the police report. Parry antagonized the officers, using gay slurs and calling them "fat f---s," according to officers.

Parry had a brace on his left wrist from surgery earlier in the offseason that made it difficult for the officers to handcuff him. The police had to remove the brace from Parry's wrist to put the handcuffs on because he kept "locking his muscles and turning his body in attempts to break free from" police.


Parry was not given a breath test because of his lack of stability and because he was "dry heaving," as if he was going to vomit, when the officers were drawing blood from his arm, according to the police report.

Asked how much he had to drink, Parry told the officers "a lot" and "more than I should have been," according to the report.


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18789509/david-parry-indianapolis-colts-cursed-police-officers-arrest-auto-theft-dui-charges

Genius.

Spike
02-28-2017, 02:24 PM
Yes you can. Pagano has installed a culture of zero accountability. It's the same reason multiple players have been busted for PED use and arrests have been a problem with this team before. It's the same reason this team does dumb things on the field, too.

Bullshit, Parry is a grown ass man, no one's fault but his own. Blame everything related to football on Pagano, and there's no argument, but blaming Pagano for anything they do away from football is just asinine.

sherck
02-28-2017, 02:27 PM
Work your entire youth for the opportunity to play in college.

Work your entire time in college for the opportunity to play in the NFL.

Become one of only 250ish college men to be drafted in any given year.

Become an NFL starter from Day One having been handed $1.180m so far in signing bonus and 2 years of salary.

And then, you do something like this.

Holy crud. As my wife said last night, "you can't fix stupid."

Cheers,

albany ed
02-28-2017, 03:32 PM
Work your entire youth for the opportunity to play in college.

Work your entire time in college for the opportunity to play in the NFL.

Become one of only 250ish college men to be drafted in any given year.

Become an NFL starter from Day One having been handed $1.180m so far in signing bonus and 2 years of salary.

And then, you do something like this.

Holy crud. As my wife said last night, "you can't fix stupid."

Cheers,

He'll be cut, he'll be out of football and then he'll be broke. And, his memories of his glory days will only make him bitter. As Mr. T would say, "I pity the fool".

Dam8610
02-28-2017, 07:05 PM
And how could you possibly say firing Grigson did not have anything to do with changing the culture when Grigs was fired after the end of the season and Grigs could have had no influence one way or the other.

When did I say that?

omahacolt
02-28-2017, 07:54 PM
Well that is interesting.

I don't pay for PFF grades so the only ones that I ever have access to are the free ones that they put into their articles. I had not seen one for Parry up until you posted it.

It is interesting that he can have the 4th highest tackle number of all 3-4 NTs in the league but somehow be graded in the bottom 15% of all defensive linemen in the league.

My eye test saw him splitting double teams with some frequency and making piles to re-route runners. Granted, his piles were sometimes 3 - 4 yards downfield which is not ideal but I really felt like he was one of the few on our D-line that was playing at least NFL average.

So, I apologize if I came off harsh earlier. I was judging by performance and you were using PFF grades which I often agree with. On this player, I would like to know how they are grading because their grade does not correspond with my view of his performance.

Cheers,

pff sucks

fuck their rankings. they don't mean shit. but your eye test should show that our linebackers have olinemen in their face constantly.

and we get ran the fuck on.

tackle stats are very misleading

omahacolt
02-28-2017, 07:58 PM
Work your entire youth for the opportunity to play in college.

Work your entire time in college for the opportunity to play in the NFL.

Become one of only 250ish college men to be drafted in any given year.

Become an NFL starter from Day One having been handed $1.180m so far in signing bonus and 2 years of salary.

And then, you do something like this.

Holy crud. As my wife said last night, "you can't fix stupid."

Cheers,
he is a young man that had too many shots. it happens.

correct me if i am wrong but you are a huge mcafee fan right?

sherck
02-28-2017, 08:04 PM
he is a young man that had too many shots. it happens.

correct me if i am wrong but you are a huge mcafee fan right?
As in Pat McAfee?

I liked him and appreciated his multi-talent skill set but its not like I felt like he was all that and a bag of doughnuts.

Good, not great punter.

Cheers,

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apballin
02-28-2017, 08:08 PM
yeah I don't think he'll get cut some alcohol classes and an apology he'll be fine

omahacolt
02-28-2017, 08:14 PM
As in Pat McAfee?

I liked him and appreciated his multi-talent skill set but its not like I felt like he was all that and a bag of doughnuts.

Good, not great punter.

Cheers,

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but he got in trouble while drinking.

you don't bitch about that now do you

sherck
02-28-2017, 08:19 PM
but he got in trouble while drinking.

you don't bitch about that now do you
???

I don't get what you are saying.

I used the phrase "liquored up kicker" to refer to Pat at the time. He was also stupid when he did his Broadripple backstroke.

Parry is stupid this week.

Both fueled by beer.

I don't get what you are saying.

Cheers,

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omahacolt
02-28-2017, 08:42 PM
???

I don't get what you are saying.

I used the phrase "liquored up kicker" to refer to Pat at the time. He was also stupid when he did his Broadripple backstroke.

Parry is stupid this week.

Both fueled by beer.

I don't get what you are saying.

Cheers,

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you should lighten up. didn't you ever get shitfaced and make a bad decision?

like a sketchy hooker or drunken tummy sticks with your "friend"

Coltsalr
02-28-2017, 08:52 PM
you should lighten up. didn't you ever get shitfaced and make a bad decision?

like a sketchy hooker or drunken tummy sticks with your "friend"

Had he just stolen the golf cart while it was unoccupied then I'd just write it off as drunken idiocy. Stupid, for sure, but hey, who hasn't been there?

Punching out the poor random golf cart driver (particularly when you're an NFL lineman that can put quite a bit behind a punch) makes you a piece of shit.

And the reports of what he was saying to the cops and resisting while he was being arrested just point to him being completely retarded.

omahacolt
02-28-2017, 08:57 PM
Had he just stolen the golf cart while it was unoccupied then I'd just write it off as drunken idiocy. Stupid, for sure, but hey, who hasn't been there?

Punching out the poor random golf cart driver (particularly when you're an NFL lineman that can put quite a bit behind a punch) makes you a piece of shit.

And the reports of what he was saying to the cops and resisting while he was being arrested just point to him being completely retarded.

this doesn't really bother me

Brylok
02-28-2017, 10:08 PM
Auto theft charge for taking a golf cart. Dude was obviously shitfaced, but DUI charges are usually more about revenue than safety. A poor commoner can get trapped in that charge for years. And "resisting arrest" is always very arbitrary. I imagine it's worse for a minority in Maricopa County, AZ. The kid made a stupid mistake but I doubt he gets cut. The Colts aren't going to bring in two NTs this off-season. My question is, what the hell was he doing in Maricopa County, AZ?

bertjones
03-01-2017, 12:56 AM
I thought he was a decent/adequate player on a defense that had few
players. My expectation under Ballard is that anyone not named Davis(or
possibly Anderson) is going to be gone in the near future. To paraphrase
Bogey- maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but someday, and for the
rest of our lives. I figured Parry would be one of the guys holding the fort
until that happened, so it hurts.

nate505
03-01-2017, 01:57 AM
What a worthless drunkard.

Maniac
03-01-2017, 05:26 AM
Wait, so you mean firing Ryan Grigson DIDN'T cure the bullshit culture surrounding this team?

You mean Pagano might actually have a hand in the losing/unaccountability culture of this team?

Shocked, I tell ya.

http://i.imgur.com/yzzgewc.jpg

What a dumb post

njcoltfan
03-01-2017, 07:02 AM
this doesn't really bother me

Figures

Racehorse
03-01-2017, 09:23 AM
I have a very simple rule: If you have a good job, you don't steal.

I used to work in a grocery store and a guy with a good job as a vendor stole a freaking ink pen at the store and lost his cushy job because he wanted something without paying for it. The same rule applies to millionaires who think they can cheat people out of stuff because of their wealth. Just don't do it! Parry did it. What a maroon!

FatDT
03-01-2017, 10:18 AM
I am not one to cast judgement for drinking. I have made bad decisions before. And it's a lot easier to do that when you've had too much to drink.

I have learned to not open myself up to that unless I am in a place where it's safe. At home, camping, at a neighbor's house, etc. I don't go out to bars anymore to get shitfaced. It's expensive and it gets exponentially more dangerous the later you go and the more drinks you put down. I am also lucky that I am not a belligerent asshole when I'm drunk. I do find the world to be a pretty hilarious place though.

This is a tough lesson Parry is going to learn. I would like to know his side of the story, but it sounds like he might not have one that he can remember. I don't care about what he said while arrested. I don't think drunkenness reveals character at all. I think it makes you a caricature of yourself. But at the same time, no one forced him to drink, it wasn't someone else that punched the golf cart driver (what was the situation there?), no one inhabited his body and resisted arrest. So he should be held accountable for doing what he chose to do. That might mean community service, fines, a civil suit, jail time, and/or getting cut.

To me this is approximately in the same ballpark as what McAfee did. The assault is a bit more severe, how much damage did he really do? But I am not going to demand that he be cut. This is not on a level with a Ray Rice type of situation.

natagu23
03-01-2017, 11:54 AM
I am not one to cast judgement for drinking. I have made bad decisions before. And it's a lot easier to do that when you've had too much to drink.

I have learned to not open myself up to that unless I am in a place where it's safe. At home, camping, at a neighbor's house, etc. I don't go out to bars anymore to get shitfaced. It's expensive and it gets exponentially more dangerous the later you go and the more drinks you put down. I am also lucky that I am not a belligerent asshole when I'm drunk. I do find the world to be a pretty hilarious place though.

This is a tough lesson Parry is going to learn. I would like to know his side of the story, but it sounds like he might not have one that he can remember. I don't care about what he said while arrested. I don't think drunkenness reveals character at all. I think it makes you a caricature of yourself. But at the same time, no one forced him to drink, it wasn't someone else that punched the golf cart driver (what was the situation there?), no one inhabited his body and resisted arrest. So he should be held accountable for doing what he chose to do. That might mean community service, fines, a civil suit, jail time, and/or getting cut.

To me this is approximately in the same ballpark as what McAfee did. The assault is a bit more severe, how much damage did he really do? But I am not going to demand that he be cut. This is not on a level with a Ray Rice type of situation.

Same ballpark as McAfee? Sorry, you lost me there. Not even close.

If they cut his ass, i wouldnt complain about it.

DrSpaceman
03-01-2017, 12:06 PM
I am not one to cast judgement for drinking. I have made bad decisions before. And it's a lot easier to do that when you've had too much to drink.

I have learned to not open myself up to that unless I am in a place where it's safe. At home, camping, at a neighbor's house, etc. I don't go out to bars anymore to get shitfaced. It's expensive and it gets exponentially more dangerous the later you go and the more drinks you put down. I am also lucky that I am not a belligerent asshole when I'm drunk. I do find the world to be a pretty hilarious place though.

This is a tough lesson Parry is going to learn. I would like to know his side of the story, but it sounds like he might not have one that he can remember. I don't care about what he said while arrested. I don't think drunkenness reveals character at all. I think it makes you a caricature of yourself. But at the same time, no one forced him to drink, it wasn't someone else that punched the golf cart driver (what was the situation there?), no one inhabited his body and resisted arrest. So he should be held accountable for doing what he chose to do. That might mean community service, fines, a civil suit, jail time, and/or getting cut.

To me this is approximately in the same ballpark as what McAfee did. The assault is a bit more severe, how much damage did he really do? But I am not going to demand that he be cut. This is not on a level with a Ray Rice type of situation.



I don't view this as anywhere near what McAfee did. Parry was arrested for robbery, auto theft, criminal damage, resisting arrest and a DUI. And he cussed out the cops to top it off. He assaulted someone and stole a golf cart.

McAfee was a simple public intoxication. He got drunk in Broad Ripple and tried to swim in the canal The cops even said they took him in for his own safety. He was cooperative with the police and caused no problems, answered their questions

http://nesn.com/2010/10/colts-punter-pat-mcafee-arrested-for-allegedly-drunkenly-swimming-in-canal/

They aren't even close to the "same ballpark". The only thing in common is they were both drunk. Beyond that, could not have been more different

rcubed
03-01-2017, 01:03 PM
I have a very simple rule: If you have a good job, you don't steal.

I used to work in a grocery store and a guy with a good job as a vendor stole a freaking ink pen at the store and lost his cushy job because he wanted something without paying for it. The same rule applies to millionaires who think they can cheat people out of stuff because of their wealth. Just don't do it! Parry did it. What a maroon!

i agree. however knowing more details it sounds like he was drunk and took off on the cart for a joy ride. while technically its stealing its different than robbery, breaking and entering, swiping something while in a normal state of mind.

he got drunk and did something stupid and it will cost him. (just addressing the stealing part here, not the assault part)

FatDT
03-01-2017, 04:29 PM
I don't view this as anywhere near what McAfee did. Parry was arrested for robbery, auto theft, criminal damage, resisting arrest and a DUI. And he cussed out the cops to top it off. He assaulted someone and stole a golf cart.

McAfee was a simple public intoxication. He got drunk in Broad Ripple and tried to swim in the canal The cops even said they took him in for his own safety. He was cooperative with the police and caused no problems, answered their questions

http://nesn.com/2010/10/colts-punter-pat-mcafee-arrested-for-allegedly-drunkenly-swimming-in-canal/

They aren't even close to the "same ballpark". The only thing in common is they were both drunk. Beyond that, could not have been more different

Cops always attach as many charges as possible. And he was not charged with robbery.

Parry was charged with driving under the influence, auto theft, suspicion of robbery, criminal damage and resisting arrest.

The "DUI" was rolling along in a golf cart for a few hundred feet. The "auto theft" was again, rolling along in a golf cart for a few hundred feet. There was no robbery, that will be dropped. Criminal damage will be reduced to a fine for whatever damage he caused. I doubt he will even be prosecuted. I haven't seen any reports that the driver had any injuries.

My point was to separate this from actual NFL criminals. Like Ray Rice punching his wife unconscious, Adrian Peterson beating this shit out of his child, Ray Lewis murdering that one guy, Aaron Hernandez murdering multiple people, etc. Parry isn't anywhere close.

Maybe a better comparison is to say this is somewhere between McAfee and DQ punching the pizza guy, and that all three are miles away from the actual lowlifes in the above examples.

natagu23
03-01-2017, 05:09 PM
Cops always attach as many charges as possible. And he was not charged with robbery.



The "DUI" was rolling along in a golf cart for a few hundred feet. The "auto theft" was again, rolling along in a golf cart for a few hundred feet. There was no robbery, that will be dropped. Criminal damage will be reduced to a fine for whatever damage he caused. I doubt he will even be prosecuted. I haven't seen any reports that the driver had any injuries.

My point was to separate this from actual NFL criminals. Like Ray Rice punching his wife unconscious, Adrian Peterson beating this shit out of his child, Ray Lewis murdering that one guy, Aaron Hernandez murdering multiple people, etc. Parry isn't anywhere close.

Maybe a better comparison is to say this is somewhere between McAfee and DQ punching the pizza guy, and that all three are miles away from the actual lowlifes in the above examples.

You're normally a good poster, but the comparisons to players who murdered and assaulted people are just out of place.

What Parry did was f**ked up in its own right and justice isnt served through a comparative lens. It shouldnt in theory anyway.

Puck
03-01-2017, 05:11 PM
You're normally a good poster, but the comparisons to players who murdered and assaulted people are just out of place.

What Parry did was f**ked up in its own right and justice isnt served through a comparative lens. It shouldnt in theory anyway.

I think you are both saying the same thing

natagu23
03-01-2017, 05:18 PM
I think you are both saying the same thing

I hope so.

Dt should hold off on the ballpark estimates however.

FatDT
03-01-2017, 11:04 PM
My point is that some of you are getting your panties in a twist over what amounts to a drunk guy knocking another guy out of a golf cart and driving it a short distance. It was dumb, he was a complete douche, and he deserves to face consequences, but this is not a cut-worthy offense. If you are offended by my use of the word "ballpark" then you need to relax.

omahacolt
03-01-2017, 11:12 PM
My point is that some of you are getting your panties in a twist over what amounts to a drunk guy knocking another guy out of a golf cart and driving it a short distance. It was dumb, he was a complete douche, and he deserves to face consequences, but this is not a cut-worthy offense. If you are offended by my use of the word "ballpark" then you need to relax.
if he was white, nobody would care

natagu23
03-02-2017, 12:30 AM
My point is that some of you are getting your panties in a twist over what amounts to a drunk guy knocking another guy out of a golf cart and driving it a short distance. It was dumb, he was a complete douche, and he deserves to face consequences, but this is not a cut-worthy offense. If you are offended by my use of the word "ballpark" then you need to relax.

There you go assuming sh*t again Dt.

I wear G-strings.

indycolts2
03-02-2017, 01:07 PM
if he was white, nobody would care
And there you have it........Omaha's daily attempt at improving race relations!

Pez
03-02-2017, 02:02 PM
if he was white, nobody would care

If he hadn't punched the guy, I wouldn't care....

Dam8610
03-02-2017, 02:19 PM
if he was white, nobody would care

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/8334042135d7f679c06190b7cdf533ced74a407e/c=15-0-465-600&r=537&c=0-0-534-712/local/-/media/2017/02/27/INGroup/Indianapolis/636238291471635379-Parry-David.jpg

How is he not white? Further, why is that even relevant?

omahacolt
03-02-2017, 03:41 PM
How is he not white? Further, why is that even relevant?

you know why it is relevant.

Brylok
03-02-2017, 11:52 PM
How is he not white? Further, why is that even relevant?
Really? And Arizona has always been a racist state. Public Enemy/Chuck D made a song about it in the early 90s. It was banned from MTV of course.

Racehorse
03-03-2017, 08:02 AM
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/8334042135d7f679c06190b7cdf533ced74a407e/c=15-0-465-600&r=537&c=0-0-534-712/local/-/media/2017/02/27/INGroup/Indianapolis/636238291471635379-Parry-David.jpg

How is he not white? Further, why is that even relevant?

I always thought he was white.

Indiana V2
03-03-2017, 08:56 AM
I always thought he was white.

Is he Samoan?

FatDT
03-03-2017, 09:39 AM
Is he Samoan?

Kinda looks like it. Without the facial hair he kinda looks Latino-ish. And he was born in Texas so that seems possible.

http://www.gostanford.com/images/2014/7/16/PITGLMZFAEVNHYF.20140716211841.jpg?width=300

natagu23
03-03-2017, 07:36 PM
Who cares.

rcubed
03-03-2017, 07:44 PM
Who cares.

offseason

DrSpaceman
03-03-2017, 10:10 PM
Cops always attach as many charges as possible. And he was not charged with robbery.



The "DUI" was rolling along in a golf cart for a few hundred feet. The "auto theft" was again, rolling along in a golf cart for a few hundred feet. There was no robbery, that will be dropped. Criminal damage will be reduced to a fine for whatever damage he caused. I doubt he will even be prosecuted. I haven't seen any reports that the driver had any injuries.

My point was to separate this from actual NFL criminals. Like Ray Rice punching his wife unconscious, Adrian Peterson beating this shit out of his child, Ray Lewis murdering that one guy, Aaron Hernandez murdering multiple people, etc. Parry isn't anywhere close.

Maybe a better comparison is to say this is somewhere between McAfee and DQ punching the pizza guy, and that all three are miles away from the actual lowlifes in the above examples.

He still hit someone to steal the golf cart. ANd he cursed at the police and resisted arrest. Its closer to the others you mentioned than to McAfeee.

He will probably get a plea deal of some type. I don't see the charges just being dropped.

Oh, OK though, he didn't murder someone or beat his kid, so its OK. Pretty low standard we are promoting.

He probably won't get cut because of this exclusively, but if there is a choice between him and a similar play this upcoming season this sure as hell isn't helping him keep his job. He isn't so great that you can just see we can ignore this and forget it happened.

Butter
03-04-2017, 01:20 AM
He still hit someone to steal the golf cart. ANd he cursed at the police and resisted arrest. Its closer to the others you mentioned than to McAfeee.

He will probably get a plea deal of some type. I don't see the charges just being dropped.

Oh, OK though, he didn't murder someone or beat his kid, so its OK. Pretty low standard we are promoting.

He probably won't get cut because of this exclusively, but if there is a choice between him and a similar play this upcoming season this sure as hell isn't helping him keep his job. He isn't so great that you can just see we can ignore this and forget it happened.

Meh, I would not cut him on this alone. He is going to pay a fairly decent price in criminal charges and lost wages. If he is a locker room problem or seems unfixable by the Team then sure. I think most young people are dumbasses, but are worth a second chance.

Flexo
03-04-2017, 02:26 AM
He just looks like a thug to me.

Coltsalr
03-07-2017, 03:00 PM
Now, court docs show Parry has been charged with felony robbery, felony unlawful use of transportation and misdemeanor threats.

If convicted on all counts, Parry could face more than 5 years behind bars.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/03/07/david-parry-charged-golf-cart-attack-prison/

5 years in prison might put a damper on his NFL career prospects.

Puck
03-07-2017, 03:17 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2017/03/07/david-parry-charged-golf-cart-attack-prison/

5 years in prison might put a damper on his NFL career prospects.


I'm guessing he will get cut And I would hope Ballard brings in a lot of DL help Poe and or Baker

natagu23
03-07-2017, 03:33 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2017/03/07/david-parry-charged-golf-cart-attack-prison/

5 years in prison might put a damper on his NFL career prospects.

Yeah, but he didnt murder anybody.
-Fatdt

JMO
-Pete

FatDT
03-07-2017, 03:36 PM
If details come out that it was worse than what I described I will admit I was wrong. Felony charges and the potential for 5 years for this seems crazy, but we'll see what is said in court.

In the meantime, with the team changing so much, him getting cut is a real possibility.

Brylok
03-07-2017, 04:35 PM
If details come out that it was worse than what I described I will admit I was wrong. Felony charges and the potential for 5 years for this seems crazy, but we'll see what is said in court.

In the meantime, with the team changing so much, him getting cut is a real possibility.

Not crazy for Maricopa County, AZ. With that amount of time, he's most likely getting cut.

GoBigBlue88
03-10-2017, 11:50 PM
Video came out today. Sorry, but he's gotta go. That's bad. Ballard is going on about leadership and the locker room. I don't know how players could get behind that guy, let alone fans.

Brylok
03-11-2017, 12:15 AM
Video came out today. Sorry, but he's gotta go. That's bad. Ballard is going on about leadership and the locker room. I don't know how players could get behind that guy, let alone fans.
Have a link or an address? I searched Google high and low and see no video.

smitty46953
03-11-2017, 12:18 AM
http://www.indystar.com/videos/sports/nfl/colts/2017/03/10/police-body-cam-video-colts-nt-david-parry%27s-arrest/99041476/

:cool:

idiot ...

Brylok
03-11-2017, 12:46 AM
http://www.indystar.com/videos/sports/nfl/colts/2017/03/10/police-body-cam-video-colts-nt-david-parry%27s-arrest/99041476/

:cool:

idiot ...
If Ballard is serious about the culture change, yeah, he's going to be cut. Puck mentioned NT to be a possible major concern earlier today, and now it is. As for the video, I didn't see much resisting arrest. He talked a lot of shit and wriggled around a bit while being handcuffed but I guess that's enough. I wonder how much alcohol he consumed to be that drunk...a big man like that. Falling into the paddy wagon was a nice touch. smh

Wyatt
03-11-2017, 06:28 AM
Coming from a former cop,that was pretty mild compared to many drunk calls....

That being said,sign poe and cut him...

Maybe the cards will pick him up and sheriff Joe can put him on work release

Hoopsdoc
03-11-2017, 01:44 PM
Coming from a former cop,that was pretty mild compared to many drunk calls....

That being said,sign poe and cut him...

Maybe the cards will pick him up and sheriff Joe can put him on work release

He threatened to hunt down every cop there. Yikes!!

Having said that, he was obviously drunk out of his mind at the time.

If he makes the proper amends, I don't see why he should be cut. :shrug:

FatDT
03-11-2017, 02:00 PM
He threatened to hunt down every cop there. Yikes!!

Having said that, he was obviously drunk out of his mind at the time.

If he makes the proper amends, I don't see why he should be cut. :shrug:

I think it comes down to whether or not he hurt the driver. Mouthing off at cops drunkenly is stupid. He will need to show remorse and pay whatever debt to society the judge decides he owes, if he wants to fit the new culture Ballard is building. But unless he hurt the driver I don't see anything yet that is unforgivable. Parry has value as a rotational piece and can make some plays.

Puck
03-11-2017, 02:42 PM
I think it comes down to whether or not he hurt the driver. Mouthing off at cops drunkenly is stupid. He will need to show remorse and pay whatever debt to society the judge decides he owes, if he wants to fit the new culture Ballard is building. But unless he hurt the driver I don't see anything yet that is unforgivable. Parry has value as a rotational piece and can make some plays.

Was there more to the video than what Smitty posted? I didn't even hear them talking about an assault charge. Wasn't near as bad as what I expected to see.

I might have been that drunk before. I think maybe even last night. :D

He'll get jail time for the theft and DUI but will probably get suspended I would guess and have to do community service.

Again not as bad as I expected

Wyatt
04-27-2017, 02:23 PM
@HolderStephen 2m2 minutes ago
It appears #Colts DL David Parry has resolved some of his legal issues in Ariz. As TMZ reported, looks like a plea deal...

sherck
04-27-2017, 02:32 PM
@HolderStephen 2m2 minutes ago
It appears #Colts DL David Parry has resolved some of his legal issues in Ariz. As TMZ reported, looks like a plea deal...
Smart of him.

As long as he avoids getting sentenced to anything beyond a misdemeanor, he should avoid missing any games.

He will probably end up having to pay a fine (D'Q Jackson had to pay $1,000 for punched a pizza guy) but that is pretty small potatoes when compared to what he was facing.

At the moment, the D-line depth chart look like:

DT = Anderson, Ridgeway, McGill
NT = Hankins, Woods, Parry
DE = Langford, Hunt, Sokoli

McGill, Parry and Sokoli are fighting for probably 1 or possibly 2 spots as D-line depth. Unless we add a 1st - 4th round draftee, I think Parry has a pretty good shot at staying on the team as both NT and DT depth. He is not tall/long enough to play the 5-tech DE spot.

Cheers,
Cheers,

smitty46953
04-27-2017, 03:00 PM
@HolderStephen 2m2 minutes ago
It appears #Colts DL David Parry has resolved some of his legal issues in Ariz. As TMZ reported, looks like a plea deal...

I have heard he is still facing up to 3 years of time. He plead guilty to two counts;
1.) misdemeanor disorderly conduct
2.) felony attempt to commit unlawful means of transportation.

He was also charged with two counts of extreme DUI (BAC was over .20) Perhaps this was dropped as part of guilty plea???

:cool:

Wyatt
04-27-2017, 03:27 PM
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2017/04/27/colts-david-parry-agrees-plea-deal-avoids-jail/100986796/

no jail time, 1 misdemeanor, 1 level 6 felony

"But the result of the case should have minimal effect on Parry’s ability to play in the NFL. Montaño said Parry’s probation can be transferred to another state as long as he pays the requisite $300 fee. He could also face a fine and suspension under the NFL’s personal conduct policy."

Brylok
04-27-2017, 03:28 PM
I'll speculate that he'll pay some fines and be put on probation. Revenue is the primary factor in cases like this; first offense, no major damage, above average income defendent. Something will be worked out between AZ and IN so that both states can wet their beaks. Parry will have to keep his nose clean and keep paying up.

Indiana V2
04-27-2017, 04:38 PM
Good deal.

smitty46953
04-27-2017, 05:05 PM
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2017/04/27/colts-david-parry-agrees-plea-deal-avoids-jail/100986796/

no jail time, 1 misdemeanor, 1 level 6 felony

"But the result of the case should have minimal effect on Parry’s ability to play in the NFL. Montaño said Parry’s probation can be transferred to another state as long as he pays the requisite $300 fee. He could also face a fine and suspension under the NFL’s personal conduct policy."

Sounds better than 3 years in Sheriff Joes "Tent City" ... :cool: