AR to cleared for practice

[Puck]

Matt Zenitz
@mzenitz
#Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson has been cleared medically coming off his orbital fracture from Oct. 12 and the hope is to have him back practicing in the near future, sources tell
@CBSSports

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Mike Chappell
@mchappell51
Colts’ Anthony Richardson Sr. cleared for football activities, but time for return is short

[Racehorse]

Matt Zenitz
@mzenitz
#Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson has been cleared medically coming off his orbital fracture from Oct. 12 and the hope is to have him back practicing in the near future, sources tell
@CBSSports

Need to play him to see if he has learned anything.

[BCN#1]

Need to play him to see if he has learned anything.


Agreed! He will likely be carrying the starter label until DJ gets back on the field so unless Uncle Phil can starting hitting folks farther down the field, it may be worth throwing him into the fire right away.... Just sayin.....:eek:

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Joel A. Erickson
@JoelAErickson
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12m
Shane Steichen: Philip Rivers will be the starting quarterback against San Francisco.

On Richardson, Steichen says "he's cleared from the eye standpoint, but we're just starting to work him back in physically"

[Oldcolt]

Would like to see him start a game or two this year but having him sit and work with Rivers is also a great thing for the young man. Bringing it along slowly also seems wise.

[Hoopsdoc]

Joel A. Erickson
@JoelAErickson
·
12m
Shane Steichen: Philip Rivers will be the starting quarterback against San Francisco.

On Richardson, Steichen says "he's cleared from the eye standpoint, but we're just starting to work him back in physically"

Rivers will be the starter even when AR is ready.

Steichen doesn’t think he can win with AR. Or Leonard for that matter.

We’re stuck with old man Rivers I’m afraid.

[Puck]

I think if you ask every member of the team which Qb they have the most confidence in the overwhelming majority would be Rivers.

You could tell how much the team rallied around him.


He gives them the best chance to make the playoffs. Once that very slim chance is gone I think they will do like they did Ryan and shut him down and play the younger guys.

I know everyone wants to see the young guys, But for some of these guys on the team this is the closest they have ever been to a playoff bid.

QB is way more cerebral than it is physical IMO. And Uncle Phil is way ahead of the rest.


Qustion for all of you wanting. Riley or AR. Do any of you believe that either of them could audible into a better play than Rivers? Do you think either of them would even know to do it or have the clearance to do it?

Would you all agree that the Pass/Run ratio wasvery different with Phil?

IMO that is because he knows the offense as well if not better than Shane. It's like Manning running his offense. He knows it


Also. Dose anyone remember when everyone was crying for Sam E over Ryan? That didn't work out at all. Because they are NOT ready And neither is Riley.


Well we should try him and find out. I agree. After all hopes, even the slightest hopes, are eliminated

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James Boyd
@RomeovilleKid
·
26m
Got some clarity on this.

#Colts QB Anthony Richardson Sr. (orbital fracture/IR) has been cleared for *physical activities* like weight lifting, running and throwing.

However, to be cleared for *football activities* (like practice) he needs to be elevated off IR.

[Colts And Orioles]

I think if you ask every member of the team which Qb they have the most confidence in the overwhelming majority would be Rivers.

You could tell how much the team rallied around him.


He gives them the best chance to make the playoffs. Once that very slim chance is gone I think they will do like they did Ryan and shut him down and play the younger guys.

I know everyone wants to see the young guys, But for some of these guys on the team this is the closest they have ever been to a playoff bid.

QB is way more cerebral than it is physical IMO. And Uncle Phil is way ahead of the rest.


Qustion for all of you wanting. Riley or AR. Do any of you believe that either of them could audible into a better play than Rivers? Do you think either of them would even know to do it or have the clearance to do it?

Would you all agree that the Pass/Run ratio wasvery different with Phil?

IMO that is because he knows the offense as well if not better than Shane. It's like Manning running his offense. He knows it


Also. Dose anyone remember when everyone was crying for Sam E over Ryan? That didn't work out at all. Because they are NOT ready And neither is Riley.


Well we should try him and find out. I agree. After all hopes, even the slightest hopes, are eliminated.





o


Yesterday, this is essentially what I said right after the end of yesterday's heartbreaking game.

This morning, I changed my mind and said that I think that we should instead go with Riley Leonard. I specifically said that I stand corrected.

Can I change my mind back again, and say that I agree with Steichen's decision to start Rivers ???

Can I stand corrected of standing corrected in the first place ???

If I'm allowed to change my mind twice in a 24-hour period, then I say that I am glad that we are going with Philip Rivers.

o

[apballin]

I think if you ask every member of the team which Qb they have the most confidence in the overwhelming majority would be Rivers.

You could tell how much the team rallied around him.


He gives them the best chance to make the playoffs. Once that very slim chance is gone I think they will do like they did Ryan and shut him down and play the younger guys.

I know everyone wants to see the young guys, But for some of these guys on the team this is the closest they have ever been to a playoff bid.

QB is way more cerebral than it is physical IMO. And Uncle Phil is way ahead of the rest.


Qustion for all of you wanting. Riley or AR. Do any of you believe that either of them could audible into a better play than Rivers? Do you think either of them would even know to do it or have the clearance to do it?

Would you all agree that the Pass/Run ratio wasvery different with Phil?

IMO that is because he knows the offense as well if not better than Shane. It's like Manning running his offense. He knows it


Also. Dose anyone remember when everyone was crying for Sam E over Ryan? That didn't work out at all. Because they are NOT ready And neither is Riley.


Well we should try him and find out. I agree. After all hopes, even the slightest hopes, are eliminated

Sure the team played inspired and he seemed to have the troops rally and I expected him to play Monday night for the story alone, again I say there’s no way this guy makes it thru 3 games

[Puck]

Sure the team played inspired and he seemed to have the troops rally and I expected him to play Monday night for the story alone, again I say there’s no way this guy makes it thru 3 games

You may be right. But to make the playoffs. He is who needs to start. If we lose one of the next 3 we are eliminated. Then start whoever. But until then. fight till the end

I like Riley,but he is not ready. They never even gave it a thought really. They knew it that's when the questions was. What do we do now? What about Phil. It was neve no problem we have Riley.

They have a ton of confidence in Phil to get them into the right situation.

If Phile cant do 3 more games then that's that. BUt he has never missed a game in teh NFL ever. So maybe, maybe

[Oldcolt]

What's to lose? If Rivers by some miracle gets us into the playoffs and we get Buckner, Sauce and Ward back who the hell knows what could happen. Right now I wouldn't give us a shot in hell but if those three can come back and play like they can play this defense could be very very good. Could carry us.

[DragonTails]

However, to be cleared for *football activities* (like practice) he needs to be elevated off IR.

When will he be cleared for mental activities?

[Lov2fish]

I still think it is a huge mistake with Rivers. He may be more cerebral, hell he is 100 times more cerebral than anyone we have. He is also an anchor on this offense after watching yesterday. He took away one of our best downfield weapons. Pierce was useless. Not because he can't get open, we know he can, but Rivers can not get him the ball. So without having to defend anything over the top this can get ugly really fast. Riley doesn't have the on field experience, or the cerebral ability as Rivers, but he can get it downfield and can run when things breakdown around him. I hope I have to eat crow, but we know I won't.

[Hoopsdoc]

Steichen said today that they didn’t bring Rivers in to sit on the bench. So he’s definitely starting the rest of the year. I’d say even if we’re mathematically eliminated, he will start.

[Thorgrim]

Steichen said today that they didn’t bring Rivers in to sit on the bench. So he’s definitely starting the rest of the year. I’d say even if we’re mathematically eliminated, he will start.

I think they know exactly what they have in AR already. Leonard to a lesser extent. Maybe they want to see if Rivers is a viable backup to Jones, if indeed he has expressed a desire to play next year. Roster Leonard as long as possible. I believe AR is trade bait for draft assets next year

[Puck]

I think they know exactly what they have in AR already. Leonard to a lesser extent. Maybe they want to see if Rivers is a viable backup to Jones, if indeed he has expressed a desire to play next year. Roster Leonard as long as possible. I believe AR is trade bait for draft assets next year

I thin AR is trade bait. And they can't risk him getting hurt the rest of the season. I think he has played his last down as a Colt barring FO changes

[albany ed]

I thin AR is trade bait. And they can't risk him getting hurt the rest of the season. I think he has played his last down as a Colt barring FO changes

Trade bait? Be honest, if you were the GM of any other NFL team, what would you offer the Colts for AR? I think they keep him for the last year of his deal, if DJ isn't ready for the beginning of the season, you can start AR. If he does well, great. If he sucks again, you dump him.

[Puck]

Trade bait? Be honest, if you were the GM of any other NFL team, what would you offer the Colts for AR? I think they keep him for the last year of his deal, if DJ isn't ready for the beginning of the season, you can start AR. If he does well, great. If he sucks again, you dump him.

If he gets hurt he's is once again a locker room paperweight.

I was/am an AR fan. But. He's lost all trust from this FO IMO

So maybe they trade him for a player, a 4th rounder or whatever. Hell they may even release him

[albany ed]

If he gets hurt he's is once again a locker room paperweight.

I was/am an AR fan. But. He's lost all trust from this FO IMO

So maybe they trade him for a player, a 4th rounder or whatever. Hell they may even release him

So Puck, if you were the GM of say the Saints, you'd give the Colts a 4th rounder for AR?

[Puck]

So Puck, if you were the GM of say the Saints, you'd give the Colts a 4th rounder for AR?

Probably not. There will be a team that needs someone if their QB gets hurt. I know that's where we are right now. But I just think the FO is ready to move on. But ya never know. Maybe he gets his head in the game and learns something from Rivers and Jones.

[albany ed]

Probably not. There will be a team that needs someone if their QB gets hurt. I know that's where we are right now. But I just think the FO is ready to move on. But ya never know. Maybe he gets his head in the game and learns something from Rivers and Jones.

Of course you wouldn't. It's one thing to need a QB, it's quite another to trade for a flop. Especially a fragile flop.

[Puck]

Of course you wouldn't. It's one thing to need a QB, it's quite another to trade for a flop. Especially a fragile flop.

Word is that McVay is interested and they will most likely be drafting a QB this yr. Also Minnesota also showed interest. Hell Miami might be looking for a replacement for Tua.

Those are the 3 I can think of.

[Racehorse]

Trade bait? Be honest, if you were the GM of any other NFL team, what would you offer the Colts for AR? I think they keep him for the last year of his deal, if DJ isn't ready for the beginning of the season, you can start AR. If he does well, great. If he sucks again, you dump him.

There is always a GM/HC that thinks they can save a player, especially a QB.

[albany ed]

There is always a GM/HC that thinks they can save a player, especially a QB.

That's true, signing a free agent flop is one thing, trading a 4th rounder for him is quite another.

[omahacolt]

Need to play him to see if he has learned anything.

they will not play AR again this year. maybe not ever.

[apballin]

From what I understand it’s cleared to workout basically, not cleared for football activities

[omahacolt]

From what I understand it’s cleared to workout basically, not cleared for football activities

that's the issue I have. was that question asked? I have no idea what the timeframe would be to be able to take NFL hits after an orbital fracture and surgery.


like sure, maybe it is healed up enough he can run around and lift weights but still a month out before he would be able to take hits.


or maybe, more likely, the colts don't want to ever see him put on a uniform again. we could speculate all day about why that is.

do they plan to trade him in the offseason and don't want him getting hurt again? was he not working hard in the meeting rooms while he has been out and they are just tired of it?

no idea but it seems to me they are done.

[ChoppedWood]

So with the 21 day window open, and him now back at practice as of today, is he the backup Monday night or is that Leonard?

[YDFL Commish]

He will get a broken jaw the first time he buckles up his chin strap.:rolleyes:

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Stephen Holder
@HolderStephen
·
3h
Lots of confusion out there on the Anthony Richardson Sr. situation. The critical points are:

1) He returned to practice today

2) Won’t play Monday

3) He’s being evaluated to see if his play is impacted by vision etc

4) The fracture is healed

https://x.com/HolderStephen/status/2001756732968611854?s=20

[IndyNorm]

The Colts are being very Coltslike when being asked about AR's vision. Which leads me to believe that he's completely blind in that eye and will never see the field again (no pun intended) :cool:.

[ChoppedWood]

The Colts are being very Coltslike when being asked about AR's vision. Which leads me to believe that he's completely blind in that eye and will never see the field again (no pun intended) :cool:.

You know, just fucking know, that any day now it will be reported that he had microfracture surgery on his eye socket and it was performed by the same guy that performed the same for Bob Sanders and Amar'e Stoudemire's knees, so in other words he will be blind in both eyes even though only one eye socket was fractured.

[Oldcolt]

The Colts know if this is likely to be permanent. It all depends on the exact cause of his blurred vision, they somehow think that it benefits them to keep everything secret. It is pure bullshit but it makes them feel important I guess.

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James Boyd
@RomeovilleKid
·
5h
#Colts HC Shane Steichen says QB Anthony Richardson Sr. (eye) will NOT be activated off IR this week.

[apballin]

James Boyd
@RomeovilleKid
·
5h
#Colts HC Shane Steichen says QB Anthony Richardson Sr. (eye) will NOT be activated off IR this week.

I wonder if he’s gonna sue the responsible parties?

[omahacolt]

James Boyd
@RomeovilleKid
·
5h
#Colts HC Shane Steichen says QB Anthony Richardson Sr. (eye) will NOT be activated off IR this week.

nor will he vs houston


his chances with the colts are done

[Oldcolt]

nor will he vs houston


his chances with the colts are done

I think you may be correct and it pisses me off no end. Drafting such a raw young man without any apparent real plan, not getting a veteran QB who gave a shit about being a mentor, the list goes on. If you are right it just points out how dysfunctional this organization truly is.

[albany ed]

I do recall that in his rookie year, more posters here felt he should start right away. Citing you can't learn by sitting on the bench. That was the first mistake. He was not just another rookie, he had very little experience at the college level. Minshew should have started and AR on the bench right next to the QB coach who could point out all the nuances of game. He still may have been a flop, but that's how I saw this going down.

After this week, when they're officially eliminated, he should see action. One last chance to see if he's more than just physical sensation. See if he has what it takes to be a QB. I don't think he does, but what's the harm in giving him another shot?

[Oldcolt]

Unlike many here I feel it is way to early to give up on AR. It is now obvious that he should have sat and learned how to not only play the position but how to be the leader of men. He needed a mentor not some shithead like Matt 'I'm not here to teach' Ryan. That sentiment should have disqualified Ryan immediately. Minshaw is a cool character who wasn't a teacher either. I want to see with adequate teaching what AR is capable of. We should have never drafted him if we were not going to move heaven and earth to help him develop. I know this isn't a popular opinion but I am not sold on Jones like most are here. Not sold on AR either but at least he has upside if it is developed correctly. If we are now out on AR I think the blame needs to be directed to Ballard/Steichen. They drafted him believing they could develop the young man. So if AR is done here the only reason he ended up here is our management drafted him because they believed in themselves as teachers of a hand picked young man. His failure is their failure.

[Colts And Orioles]

Unlike many here I feel it is way to early to give up on Anthony Richardson.





o


I think that's it's too early to completely give up on Anthony Richardson, also. But Daniel Jones, prior to breaking his left fibula, was one of the best 5 quarterbacks in the NFL, much better than Richardson was in his tenure as the Colts' starting quarterback ...... so keeping Richardson around as a 2nd-stringer or trading him to a team which needs a starting quarterback in order to see if he can evolve in to as a solid NFL quarterback are both good ideas.

Incidentally, while many have teased Richardson about his latest injury, it was not his fault at all ...... it was a freak accident during pregame warm-ups when a resistance band snapped and struck him in the face, breaking his orbital bone ...... it was extremely unlucky equipment failure, not player error/failure/lack of durability.


If Richardson gets traded to another team and is said new team's starting quarterback, I'll be rooting for him all of the time except when his new team is playing against the Colts.

o

[Oldcolt]

I agree with everything you said. I am of the belief that 8 games of excellent play (DJ), when teamS are not really ready for what the offense is doing, while very encouraging, doesn't erase his career before this. I would like to bring him back on a one or two year contract. If he can do this for an entire year (be in the top 1/3 of QBs in the league) and win some games against top competition then he is our man. If he is our starter and AR is our backup I feel confident that AR will get to play (DJ has been injured and lost playing time every year except one. He is an injury prone player) and show if he has progressed. I actually think we are pretty close to agreement on this.

[omahacolt]

I think you may be correct and it pisses me off no end. Drafting such a raw young man without any apparent real plan, not getting a veteran QB who gave a shit about being a mentor, the list goes on. If you are right it just points out how dysfunctional this organization truly is.

I agree


any hope for Richardson developing went out the window with how they handled him. I am sure a lot of his failures are on him but the colts sure didn't help him much

[Hoopsdoc]

I agree


any hope for Richardson developing went out the window with how they handled him. I am sure a lot of his failures are on him but the colts sure didn't help him much

I think the mentor stuff is way overblown. Aaron Rodgers never did shit for Jordan Love and he turned out just fine.

AR has been given many opportunities and he’s screwed up every single one. And if you believe the rumors about his work ethic, that’s even more smoke.

Add to that he’s apparently made of glass and can’t stay healthy for any period of time, and I think most of the blame should go to him.

I’m sure the team could have done things differently but the majority of the blame still has to go to AR.

[omahacolt]

I think the mentor stuff is way overblown. Aaron Rodgers never did shit for Jordan Love and he turned out just fine.

AR has been given many opportunities and he’s screwed up every single one. And if you believe the rumors about his work ethic, that’s even more smoke.

Add to that he’s apparently made of glass and can’t stay healthy for any period of time, and I think most of the blame should go to him.

I’m sure the team could have done things differently but the majority of the blame still has to go to AR.

I don't disagree with this.


I believe the smoke that he wasn't preparing good enough. that shouldn't have been allowed. or the very least, if they knew he wasn't preparing good enough, he shouldn't have been on the field at all. I think that is the main issue with the colts so called plan to develop him

[Hoopsdoc]

I don't disagree with this.


I believe the smoke that he wasn't preparing good enough. that shouldn't have been allowed. or the very least, if they knew he wasn't preparing good enough, he shouldn't have been on the field at all. I think that is the main issue with the colts so called plan to develop him

I agree that should never have been made public.

My guess is it was a ham handed attempt to motivate him.

We saw what he’s made of when he tapped out.

Hell, he’s so bad we had opposing coaches like Tomlin telling his defense not to hit him to hard because he was afraid he’d get hurt and the Colts would put Flacco in.

It doesn’t get worse than that.

AR is just bad at football.

[IndyNorm]

Unlike many here I feel it is way to early to give up on AR. It is now obvious that he should have sat and learned how to not only play the position but how to be the leader of men. He needed a mentor not some shithead like Matt 'I'm not here to teach' Ryan. That sentiment should have disqualified Ryan immediately. Minshaw is a cool character who wasn't a teacher either. I want to see with adequate teaching what AR is capable of. We should have never drafted him if we were not going to move heaven and earth to help him develop. I know this isn't a popular opinion but I am not sold on Jones like most are here. Not sold on AR either but at least he has upside if it is developed correctly. If we are now out on AR I think the blame needs to be directed to Ballard/Steichen. They drafted him believing they could develop the young man. So if AR is done here the only reason he ended up here is our management drafted him because they believed in themselves as teachers of a hand picked young man. His failure is their failure.

I believe you meant Joe Flacco and not Matt Ryan. Ryan was released in March '23, so before we drafted AR. I actually think Ryan would have embraced the mentor role, although he definitely wasn't a good fit for Steichen's offense.

I believe the smoke that he wasn't preparing good enough. that shouldn't have been allowed. or the very least, if they knew he wasn't preparing good enough, he shouldn't have been on the field at all. I think that is the main issue with the colts so called plan to develop him

No doubt. This is a prime example of what a complete clusterfuck the FO and coaching staff made of AR's development.