AR to miss minicamp with injury to AC Joint in Throwing Shoulder

[Dam8610]

https://www.nfl.com/news/colts-qb-anthony-richardson-to-miss-minicamp-after-suffering-shoulder-injury

So, who do we the the new GM and HC will be? And what number do you think Arch is going to wear?

[ChaosTheory]

Fucking Ballard.

[Colts And Orioles]

https://www.nfl.com/news/colts-qb-anthony-richardson-to-miss-minicamp-after-suffering-shoulder-injury



So, who do we the the new GM and HC will be ??? l And what number do you think Arch is going to wear ???





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http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145646&highlight=Arch

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[Brylok]

https://www.nfl.com/news/colts-qb-anthony-richardson-to-miss-minicamp-after-suffering-shoulder-injury

So, who do we the the new GM and HC will be? And what number do you think Arch is going to wear?

It isn't Ballard or Steichen's fault that AR is made of paper mache and masking tape.

Arch Manning is never going to be a Colt. Hell, I doubt the Manning family would let him.

[Brylok]

Morocco Brown no longer being with the Colts is interesting timing, given the AR injury. It's barely June...

[BCN#1]

Morocco Brown no longer being with the Colts is interesting timing, given the AR injury. It's barely June...

Just saw this news myself and first thought was whether the shit will now roll downhill and stop with Anthony being shown the door sooner rather than later.

I was really hoping he would turn it all around this season in any case but the injury bugs seems to stick with him IMHO. :(

[Brylok]

Just saw this news myself and first thought was whether the shit will now roll downhill and stop with Anthony being shown the door sooner rather than later.

I was really hoping he would turn it all around this season in any case but the injury bugs seems to stick with him IMHO. :(

Me, too. I don't have much hope for him though. Daniel Jones is probably our starter.
The Brown thing is more interesting to me, as he was the biggest AR supporter prior to that draft. "Purple-spotted unicorn" and everything. I remember those videos. Now he's suddenly gone at the same time as this AR news. Hmm.

[Hoopsdoc]

Yeah, it’s time to move on.

AR is the worst of both worlds. Inconsistent AND injury prone.

If one doesn’t get him, the other inevitably does.

[YDFL Commish]

AR is going to get beat out by Jones, no matter his injury status. Jone is just the better player, it's that simple.

The only way that Ballard saves face in the drafting of AR is they move him to TE and he becomes an All-Pro at that position. Both scenarios are highly unlikely.

As fro Morocco Brown...perhaps his dumping was Carlie first official act as Owner.

Also, I just heard Kent Sterling mention that there is a buzz in the Colts complex that Carlie has put people on notice.

[Dewey 5]

https://www.nfl.com/news/colts-qb-anthony-richardson-to-miss-minicamp-after-suffering-shoulder-injury

So, who do we the the new GM and HC will be? And what number do you think Arch is going to wear?

I'm not sure that Arch will leave Texas early.

[Dewey 5]

Morocco Brown no longer being with the Colts is interesting timing, given the AR injury. It's barely June...

Ballard's scapegoat

[albany ed]

Jamarcus Russell
Akili Smith
Anthony Richardson

Abundant talent from the neck down.

[CletusPyle]

This is why the Colts should have drafted Dillion Gabriel or Will Howard! AR is a bust and the sooner they accept it the sooner we can get out of the cellar of the AFC South.

[Brylok]

They *should* have taken Baker Mayfield when Cleveland dumped him and we got Matt Ryan instead. Baker wanted to come to the Colts, too. And here we are now...

[apballin]

He’s done, Trey Lance 2.0

[sherck]

I'm not sure that Arch will leave Texas early.

Agreed. With Indiana Jones at QB, the 2025 Colts will win 7-9 games, miss the playoffs or get in and be 1 and done.

The year to tank for Arch is NEXT season in 2026. Clean house, new GM, new HC, sell on veterans so the new managment can start roster construction how they think they need to in order to support a 2027 rookie QB.

As I stated in another post:

2026 SELL:

Pittman - $24.0m cap savings - 29 years old - 1 year left on contract
Buckner - $15.8m cap savings - 32 years old - 1 year left on contract
Nelson - $18.0m cap savings - 30 years old - 1 year left on contract
Taylor - $13.0m cap savings - 27 years old - 1 year left on contract
Stewart - $12.3m cap savings - 33 years old - 1 year left on contract
Moore - $10.0m cap savings - 31 years old - 1 year left on contract

By trading the above folks, we increase the Colts 2026 free cap space from $71.6m to $164.7m in order for the new GM to start shaping a younger team to help a new rookie QB in 2027 plus able to use the draft picks trading those players would bring.

[IndyNorm]

He’s done, Trey Lance 2.0

This is actually a really good comparison. Minimal experience in college, all world talent, but unable to stay healthy enough to develop that talent.

AR's injury definitely sucks. Was hoping (as I'm sure we all were) that AR would make some significant strides w/ a healthy offseason. Suppose we'll be finding out whether or not Jones' immense struggles at NYG was mainly due to surrounding talent or not.

As far as drafting Arch:

- He has 3 years of eligibility remaining, no monetary needs for himself or his family, plenty of NIL money coming in even if that weren't the case, and a family history of not leaving college early. So it's unlikely he'll be in the draft until at least 2027 if not 2028. Maybe if he wins a national championship and the Heisman in '25 and/or '26 then he comes out early, but anything short of that then my guess is he doesn't.

- Even if Arch does leave for the draft in '26 the Colts will probably not be bad enough to be in position to draft him. I suppose another 2022 implosion could happen, but that's pretty unlikely.

Morocco Brown no longer being with the Colts is interesting timing, given the AR injury. It's barely June...

Definitely interesting. I wonder if there's been a rift between Ballard and Brown w/ Ballard shifting to drafting more based on performance rather than solely based on physical traits.

[Hoopsdoc]

They *should* have taken Baker Mayfield when Cleveland dumped him and we got Matt Ryan instead. Baker wanted to come to the Colts, too. And here we are now...

That’s true but if I remember correctly, no one here wanted Baker at the time.

[Colts And Orioles]

- He has 3 years of eligibility remaining, no monetary needs for himself or his family, plenty of NIL money coming in even if that weren't the case, and a family history of not leaving college early. So it's unlikely he'll be in the draft until at least 2027 if not 2028.





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This reminds me of a prediction that I made for the Orioles in a 3-game series that they had with the Boston Red Sox 2010, which went as follows ......


"The Orioles currently have a record of 4-18, which is the worst in all of baseball. They have not had a winning season in more than a decade. The Red Sox are one of the best teams in all of baseball, and they have not had a losing season in more than a decade. The Red Sox have better starting pitching than the Orioles, better relief pitching than the Orioles, and a better offense than the Orioles. In addition to all of that, Oriole Park has become known as "Fenway South" because almost half of the fans in the stadium root for the Red Sox when they play the Orioles there, even though the stadium is in Baltimore ...... so based of all of that, I think that the Orioles will sweep all 3 games from the Red Sox."


Sure enough, the Orioles swept all 3 games from the Red Sox.


https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BAL/2010-schedule-scores.shtml

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[Brylok]

That’s true but if I remember correctly, no one here wanted Baker at the time.

That's right. I mentioned him once, quickly got shot down, and we moved on. Nobody was making a case for him here.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

They *should* have taken Baker Mayfield when Cleveland dumped him and we got Matt Ryan instead. Baker wanted to come to the Colts, too. And here we are now...


That particular decision was Jim Irsay's. Jim really, really wanted Matt Ryan as QB.

Actually I think that a lot of the QB1 decisions over the last few years have been made by Irsay...which I don't think is surprising or that unusual. I believe there are many owners that get involved in the QB1 decision if that position is unsettled.

Each NFL team is valued at a minimum of 4 billion dollars. The QB1 position is usually the face of the franchise, someone who may command a $40 million per year contract (currently half the teams in the league pay a QB $40 million per year). So not surprising that a owner will want to be involved in the process or ultimately make the final decision.

And I think this is one reason why Jim graded Ballard on a curve...because Jim was making the QB1 decision.

And with Jim's passing...someone else will be making the QB1 decisions going forward.

[albany ed]

I actually think that DJ will win 10 or 11 games as the Colts QB. But maybe, just maybe it's more of a hope than a projection.

Go Colts.

[Racehorse]

I actually think that DJ will win 10 or 11 games as the Colts QB. But maybe, just maybe it's more of a hope than a projection.

Go Colts.

If he can be a game manager, he could do that. I think he could be better for us than Wentz, because he will be less likely to play hero ball.

[albany ed]

Aside from the QB position, I think the Colts remaining 54 are better than the other 3 AFC South teams. Would you agree? disagree?

[ChaosTheory]

Aside from the QB position, I think the Colts remaining 54 are better than the other 3 AFC South teams. Would you agree? disagree?

That's funny, I just heard an analyst two days ago phrase it similarly. Basically saying the Colts have one of the better 2-through-53 rosters in the league, but never have a QB.

The holes we have are depth spots at a couple of positions, which is not what fans of most teams think of when they talk about "holes."

[HoosierinFL]

Isn't much being made of nothing here?
What I've seen is that he's got soreness, which also happened last year around this time didn't it?
It is likely just a lingering side effect of structural changes to his shoulder after Aaron Donald crushed it.

At most he probably needs rest and will be at 100% soon enough.

He most likely also needs someone to manage his off season throwing and workout routine to both keep his shoulder in shape to minimize these sprains when the intensity picks up, but also to minimize fatigue and wear & tear.

[albany ed]

Isn't much being made of nothing here?
What I've seen is that he's got soreness, which also happened last year around this time didn't it?
It is likely just a lingering side effect of structural changes to his shoulder after Aaron Donald crushed it.

At most he probably needs rest and will be at 100% soon enough.

He most likely also needs someone to manage his off season throwing and workout routine to both keep his shoulder in shape to minimize these sprains when the intensity picks up, but also to minimize fatigue and wear & tear.

He probably wasn't doing much until a couple of months ago when the Colts signed Jones. Then, he started throwing a lot when he realized he was in a competition for the starting role. I agree he needs someone to manage his off season workouts. He's a natural talent and doesn't seem to have a clue on how to train.

[Colts And Orioles]

Isn't much being made of nothing here ???

What I've seen is that he's got soreness, which also happened last year around this time didn't it ???

It is likely just a lingering side effect of structural changes to his shoulder after Aaron Donald crushed it.

At most, he probably needs rest and will be at 100% soon enough.

He most likely also needs someone to manage his off-season throwing and workout routines to both keep his shoulder in shape to minimize these sprains when the intensity picks up, but also to minimize fatigue and wear & tear.




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That could be the case ...... somewhat similar to a pitcher in baseball having UCL surgery, and then having his throwing/pitching carefully monitored for a year or 2 after coming back from the surgery.

Either way, we'll find out soon enough.

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[Dewey 5]

We've heard this story before. Dude is done

https://x.com/ColtsFilmRoom/status/1932195491095421053?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1932195491095421053%7Ctwgr% 5Ee7228eeacfcf3c72fdf8697835a0a357a0ac5aab%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.colts.com%2Findex.php %3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl% 3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2FColtsFilmRoom%2Fstatus%2F1 932195491095421053

[IndyNorm]

That's right. I mentioned him once, quickly got shot down, and we moved on. Nobody was making a case for him here.

Yeah, there wasn't much support either here or elsewhere for us to trade for Baker. In hindsight it definitely looks like bringing him in would have been the best move. IMO though he would have struggled here w/ our OL being such a shit show that year (to be fair almost anyone would have), which would have likely turned into a short stay similar to the one he had in Carolina.

[IndyNorm]

We've heard this story before. Dude is done

https://x.com/ColtsFilmRoom/status/1932195491095421053?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1932195491095421053%7Ctwgr% 5Ee7228eeacfcf3c72fdf8697835a0a357a0ac5aab%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.colts.com%2Findex.php %3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl% 3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2FColtsFilmRoom%2Fstatus%2F1 932195491095421053

Oh fuck. Yeah, he's done :cool:. Hope Jones is up for a Darnoldesque turn around.

[Dam8610]

We've heard this story before. Dude is done

https://x.com/ColtsFilmRoom/status/1932195491095421053?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1932195491095421053%7Ctwgr% 5Ee7228eeacfcf3c72fdf8697835a0a357a0ac5aab%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.colts.com%2Findex.php %3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl% 3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2FColtsFilmRoom%2Fstatus%2F1 932195491095421053

Well, I guess that means it's time for Danny Dimes to displace defensive deficiencies disturbingly deftly deciding definitively destinies of diligent disciple dart-throwers desperate to define the days developing.

In other words, get ready for the March for Arch.

[ChoppedWood]

Once again, once over and over, and over and over...

This organization just completely botches the injury reporting process. Never seen anything like it with any other organization.

"just some soreness, we're gonna be a little cautious to just give it some rest; we expect him to be fully ready for training camp"

"clinically speaking, the young man is very close to death and will never be able to lift his arm from his waist because his shoulder is destroyed and he could easily die tomorrow from the extent of the injury".

Just don't understand how this franchise has been this bad with injury PR for decades now.

[Racehorse]

Well, I guess that means it's time for Danny Dimes to displace defensive deficiencies disturbingly deftly deciding definitively destinies of diligent disciple dart-throwers desperate to define the days developing.

In other words, get ready for the March for Arch.

I always knew you liked the D

[Dam8610]

I always knew you liked the D

The QB's name starts with a D, I was just going for the alliteration.

[Brylok]

Stephen Holder reporting that the Colts are bringing Desmond Ridder in for a tryout this week. Make of that what you will.

Yikes

[YDFL Commish]

Stephen Holder reporting that the Colts are bringing Desmond Ridder in for a tryout this week. Make of that what you will.

Yikes

He sucks!

[YDFL Commish]

For those of you who are concerned about AR's future with this team go to around 26.10 point of this video, when Carlie says if Anthony wants it?

https://www.colts.com/video/indianapolis-colts-ownership-transition-press-conference

This is a clear insinuation that AR is just happy to be in the NFL, and that greatness and winning are not part of his mindset.

[apballin]

Isn't much being made of nothing here?
What I've seen is that he's got soreness, which also happened last year around this time didn't it?
It is likely just a lingering side effect of structural changes to his shoulder after Aaron Donald crushed it.

At most he probably needs rest and will be at 100% soon enough.

He most likely also needs someone to manage his off season throwing and workout routine to both keep his shoulder in shape to minimize these sprains when the intensity picks up, but also to minimize fatigue and wear & tear.

Man enough with the excuses for this dude… didn’t he just go workout with Josh Allen’s guy? Guess he didn’t teach him anything about throwing through pain.

Him missing any time is valuable right now I don’t care, he should be building chemistry with Tyler Warren from day 1 and all throughout the off season.

[apballin]

Stephen Holder reporting that the Colts are bringing Desmond Ridder in for a tryout this week. Make of that what you will.

Yikes

He doesn’t suck, I’d take him over Richardson as my backup right now

[Chromeburn]

Guy was always a gamble. Gonna see if he improves this year. I’m not really worried about the shoulder. I think him going is just a precaution and getting a second opinion. I’m not stressing too much about it. If he can’t do it it’s back on the QB carousel again. Keep doing it till you hit.

[CletusPyle]

For those of you who are concerned about AR's future with this team go to around 26.10 point of this video, when Carlie says if Anthony wants it?

https://www.colts.com/video/indianapolis-colts-ownership-transition-press-conference

This is a clear insinuation that AR is just happy to be in the NFL, and that greatness and winning are not part of his mindset.

I think we all knew that when he pulled himself out of the game!

[Racehorse]

For those of you who are concerned about AR's future with this team go to around 26.10 point of this video, when Carlie says if Anthony wants it?

https://www.colts.com/video/indianapolis-colts-ownership-transition-press-conference

This is a clear insinuation that AR is just happy to be in the NFL, and that greatness and winning are not part of his mindset.

Carlie was definitely prepared by Jim Irsay to be the voice of the team. Her words, cadence and tone are very similar to his.

[omahacolt]

Jamarcus Russell
Akili Smith
Anthony Richardson

Abundant talent from the neck down.

hmm

something is similar here. curious why you picked these 3

[omahacolt]

He probably wasn't doing much until a couple of months ago when the Colts signed Jones. Then, he started throwing a lot when he realized he was in a competition for the starting role. I agree he needs someone to manage his off season workouts. He's a natural talent and doesn't seem to have a clue on how to train.

how could you possibly know any of that? "he probably wasn't doing much"


Jesus dude

[albany ed]

hmm

something is similar here. curious why you picked these 3

They were all high #1 draft choices.

[albany ed]

how could you possibly know any of that? "he probably wasn't doing much"


Jesus dude

I don't know it, that's why I said "probably". What I do know is that if your arm was not very active for a few months and then suddenly you started throwing like crazy, you're going to get sore and achy.

[YDFL Commish]

I like listening to PFT, with Mike Florio and Chris Simms. SImms is one the best analysts and talent evaluators out there when it comes to offensive skill position players.

Simms believes that AR will always have shoulder troubles, because his throwing motion is so violent and AR only relies on his arm and doesn't use his whole body to create the torque in his throws. I believe this to be true, because all of the best throwers of the football, who listed a long time would use their entire body to make the majority of throws.

As I have said before, move the kid to TE, and see if he really wants it.

[Colts And Orioles]

For those of you who are concerned about AR's future with this team go to around 26.10 point of this video, when Carlie says if Anthony wants it?


https://www.colts.com/video/indianapolis-colts-ownership-transition-press-conference


This is a clear insinuation that AR is just happy to be in the NFL, and that greatness and winning are not part of his mindset.




o


Anthony Richardson may never throw another pass for the Indianapolis Colts again, and I suppose that it's possible that Richardson confided in Carlie Irsay that he prefered to just hold a clipboard on the sidelines and collect a paycheck. But her insinuation about his lack of desire to play (if he wants to) doesn't necessarily prove that he doesn't have the desire to play. One of Richardson's questionable habits that I and others critiqued him for was putting his shoulder down and taking on defenders in non-crucial situations ...... such as 1st and 2nd downs. A quarterback who is too reckless in taking on defenders doesn't strike me as a gun-shy player and/or somebody who doesn't want to play football. If anything, it shows somebody who is a bit too eager to prove himself.

And yes, I know that he asked out of a game and later stated that he did so because he was tired, but as Omaha pointed out, that may have been him trying to cover up an injury because of all the criticsm that he had been getting for frequently being injured ...... and if that was the case, his cover-up was worse than the truth in the view of public criticism.

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[Colts And Orioles]

I like listening to PFT, with Mike Florio and Chris Simms. Simms is one the best analysts and talent evaluators out there when it comes to offensive skill position players.

Simms believes that AR will always have shoulder troubles, because his throwing motion is so violent and AR only relies on his arm and doesn't use his whole body to create the torque in his throws. I believe this to be true, because all of the best throwers of the football, who listed a long time would use their entire body to make the majority of throws.

As I have said before, move the kid to TE, and see if he really wants it.





o


Simms, being a former QB himself, may have a point. And if that's the case, I would hope that the Colts' coaching staff notices what Simms does, and tries to (at least slightly) adjust his throwing motion.

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[YDFL Commish]

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Anthony Richardson may never throw another pass for the Indianapolis Colts again, and I suppose that it's possible that Richardson confided in Carlie Irsay that he prefered to just hold a clipboard on the sidelines and collect a paycheck. But her insinuation about his lack of desire to play (if he wants to) doesn't necessarily prove that he doesn't have the desire to play. One of Richardson's questionable habits that I and others critiqued him for was putting his shoulder down and taking on defenders in non-crucial situations ...... such as 1st and 2nd downs. A quarterback who is too reckless in taking on defenders doesn't strike me as a gun-shy player and/or somebody who doesn't want to play football. If anything, it shows somebody who is a bit too eager to prove himself.

And yes, I know that he asked out of a game and later stated that he did so because he was tired, but as Omaha pointed out, that may have been him trying to cover up an injury because of all the criticsm that he had been getting for frequently being injured ...... and if that was the case, his cover-up was worse than the truth in the view of public criticism.

o

So you agreeing with me, that he may never be right physically to ever play QB?

[Colts And Orioles]

So, are you agreeing with me, that he may never be right physically to ever play QB?





o


Not necessarily. There are multiple reasons why he may or may not continue as the Colts' starting quarterback, and your theory is one possibility. Another possibility is that Daniel Jones could lead the Colts to a 13-4 record in 2025, and the Colts could subsequently cut ties with Richardson and trade him. A 3rd possibilty (although not very likely) is that the Colts could do what you suggested, and move Richardson to tight end or wide receiver.

On the whole, I don't think that it's likely that Richardson never throws another pass for Colts again. I was saying that as a way of implying/reinforcing the fact that I don't know what the future holds any more than any other Colts fan does, not necessarily because I think that him never throwing another pass for the team is likely.

o

[apballin]

o


Simms, being a former QB himself, may have a point. And if that's the case, I would hope that the Colts' coaching staff notices what Simms does, and tries to (at least slightly) adjust his throwing motion.

o

Wasn’t that the point of going to work with Josh Allen’s trainer?

[Racehorse]

I like listening to PFT, with Mike Florio and Chris Simms. SImms is one the best analysts and talent evaluators out there when it comes to offensive skill position players.

Simms believes that AR will always have shoulder troubles, because his throwing motion is so violent and AR only relies on his arm and doesn't use his whole body to create the torque in his throws. I believe this to be true, because all of the best throwers of the football, who listed a long time would use their entire body to make the majority of throws.

As I have said before, move the kid to TE, and see if he really wants it.

If Derrick Henry can throw a TD pass out of the RB position, just think what AR could do as a wildcat type player.

[Dam8610]

hmm

something is similar here. curious why you picked these 3

You could throw in Blake Bortles, Josh Rosen, Tim Couch, Johnny Manziel, etc.

[CletusPyle]

If Derrick Henry can throw a TD pass out of the RB position, just think what AR could do as a wildcat type player.

AR is not durable enough to run the football in the nfl, if he runs 5 times he gets hurt. It is unfair, his greatest gift as a QB is his running threat, but he is not durable enough to use it! I predict Jones does well enough that he is the starting QB all season, and they may try to use AR in a wildcat but if they do, he won't last 1/2 the season!

I am not being all negative, I think Daniel Jones is going to surprise some people and be very good for the Colts!

[Lov2fish]

AR is not durable enough to run the football in the nfl, if he runs 5 times he gets hurt. It is unfair, his greatest gift as a QB is his running threat, but he is not durable enough to use it! I predict Jones does well enough that he is the starting QB all season, and they may try to use AR in a wildcat but if they do, he won't last 1/2 the season!

I am not being all negative, I think Daniel Jones is going to surprise some people and be very good for the Colts!

The small amount of film I have seen on Daniels in mini camp so far, he is threading the needle and hitting some dimes in stride. If he does that in camp and preseason he will be the starter and the argument is over.

[Racehorse]

The small amount of film I have seen on Daniels in mini camp so far, he is threading the needle and hitting some dimes in stride. If he does that in camp and preseason he will be the starter and the argument is over.

I do not care which of them wins this competition, as long as the winner is effective in this offense. Get us to the division champion where we belong.

[Lov2fish]

I do not care which of them wins this competition, as long as the winner is effective in this offense. Get us to the division champion where we belong.

No argument here. I don't care who is starting as long as they are doing what it takes to win the division. Still doesn't make me less salty for wasting a top 5 pick on someone who's film showed we got exactly what the film said he was, inconsistent. I was on record not wanting any of them. Could have spent that pick on D and embrace the suck until a legit QB came out.

[YDFL Commish]

If Derrick Henry can throw a TD pass out of the RB position, just think what AR could do as a wildcat type player.

Correct. That's the only reason that you would do it. I'm not suggesting that AR will become a 20 snap per game TE. You use him as a gadget guy, who plays maybe 3 to 5 snaps a game.

Can you imagine a backfield of Jones, AR and Warren? Which one is throwing the football, which one is running the football. They all can do all three well enough to have the defense on its heels and in a quandary.

[Brylok]

I do not care which of them wins this competition, as long as the winner is effective in this offense. Get us to the division champion where we belong.

From your mouth to whatever particular God's ear.

[omahacolt]

You could throw in Blake Bortles, Josh Rosen, Tim Couch, Johnny Manziel, etc.

you sure could. but he didn't

[IndyNorm]

Looks like AR's shoulder has been deemed ok, and he's throwing again.

https://fox59.com/sports/colts/colts-anthony-richardson-has-resumed-throwing/

[CletusPyle]

What are the odds that AR makes it through training camp without an injury....I'd say they are not too good!

[Hoopsdoc]

I suspect Jones is already penciled in as the starter, they just can’t say so publicly.

[CletusPyle]

AR appears to have lost some weight since the last time I saw him.

https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jones-anthony-richardson-begin-competition-colts-starting-quarterback

[Colts And Orioles]

AR appears to have lost some weight since the last time I saw him.


https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jones-anthony-richardson-begin-competition-colts-starting-quarterback





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Lighter, and more agile and athletic (I hope.)

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[ChaosTheory]

o


Lighter, and more agile and athletic (I hope.)

o

As well as conditioning and endurance. Don't know if the article mentioned, but he said he dropped about 10lbs. down to 240lbs.

Pretty sure he'll never even pretend to tap out again, regardless... but the underlying feeling of being gassed in the first place is good to address. You could imagine that fatigue affecting his throwing mechanics.

[Oldcolt]

Think many folks are giving up on AR way too soon (the national media has written his obituary with the Colts). This is what we signed up for when we drafted the man. He wasn't just inexperienced in game play, he didn't grow up in that QB culture most do (summer camps with pros etc). He had/has so much to learn about being a pro QB, plus he has dealing with the psychological/physical affect of injury his first two years (he is only 23 and doesn't have all that much life experience to help him through shit). On a football field he pretty much does everything well except short/intermediate accuracy. To me he has shown a ton to get excited about. He has excellent pocket presence, he processes well, throws a great long ball, runs better than any other QB out there and has shown he isn't afraid of the fourth quarter. It is crazy to think he isn't working on his accuracy and won't improve it. If he does, and it doesn't have to be perfect with all his other attributes, we are set for years. He will win this competition and take a big step this year. Watching a player develop, especially after agonizing through the start of a career, is one of the most satisfying things there is for a fan. There is a damn good chance we get that joy as Colts fans this year. And yes it isn't a sure thing. That is what makes it exciting and so damn satisfying when it happens.

[Racehorse]

Think many folks are giving up on AR way too soon (the national media has written his obituary with the Colts). This is what we signed up for when we drafted the man. He wasn't just inexperienced in game play, he didn't grow up in that QB culture most do (summer camps with pros etc). He had/has so much to learn about being a pro QB, plus he has dealing with the psychological/physical affect of injury his first two years (he is only 23 and doesn't have all that much life experience to help him through shit). On a football field he pretty much does everything well except short/intermediate accuracy. To me he has shown a ton to get excited about. He has excellent pocket presence, he processes well, throws a great long ball, runs better than any other QB out there and has shown he isn't afraid of the fourth quarter. It is crazy to think he isn't working on his accuracy and won't improve it. If he does, and it doesn't have to be perfect with all his other attributes, we are set for years. He will win this competition and take a big step this year. Watching a player develop, especially after agonizing through the start of a career, is one of the most satisfying things there is for a fan. There is a damn good chance we get that joy as Colts fans this year. And yes it isn't a sure thing. That is what makes it exciting and so damn satisfying when it happens.
Glad to see not everyone wants to microwave the guy into being great. It takes time. However, he has some elite traits that just cannot be taught, and that is exciting to me. Based on his age, this should be his rookie or second year in the league. He has time to develop, if given that opportunity.

[ChaosTheory]

From what we keep reading, it seems like he'll be QB1. If the whole mental reps thing is an indication that he's treating studying like a job, that's great. That's the approach we wanted.

In the limited film we have of camp, he does seem to be more conscious about footwork. Especially in some vids of him throwing on the move. Very limited, so we'll see.

Just don't get hurt and stack the experience. The separation from winning the division isn't that far. He already has the dynamic parts. If he makes the routine stuff become actually routine, this offense will light teams up.

[CletusPyle]

Think many folks are giving up on AR way too soon (the national media has written his obituary with the Colts). This is what we signed up for when we drafted the man. He wasn't just inexperienced in game play, he didn't grow up in that QB culture most do (summer camps with pros etc). He had/has so much to learn about being a pro QB, plus he has dealing with the psychological/physical affect of injury his first two years (he is only 23 and doesn't have all that much life experience to help him through shit). On a football field he pretty much does everything well except short/intermediate accuracy. To me he has shown a ton to get excited about. He has excellent pocket presence, he processes well, throws a great long ball, runs better than any other QB out there and has shown he isn't afraid of the fourth quarter. It is crazy to think he isn't working on his accuracy and won't improve it. If he does, and it doesn't have to be perfect with all his other attributes, we are set for years. He will win this competition and take a big step this year. Watching a player develop, especially after agonizing through the start of a career, is one of the most satisfying things there is for a fan. There is a damn good chance we get that joy as Colts fans this year. And yes it isn't a sure thing. That is what makes it exciting and so damn satisfying when it happens.

I'll admit, I have pretty much given up on him, but I want to be wrong and I will certainly root for his success if he wins out over Jones. Some people wrote off Jordan Love and Kyler Murray and both have proved them wrong, if Anthony turns it around he could be the most improved player in the league!

[Oldcolt]

I'll admit, I have pretty much given up on him, but I want to be wrong and I will certainly root for his success if he wins out over Jones. Some people wrote off Jordan Love and Kyler Murray and both have proved them wrong, if Anthony turns it around he could be the most improved player in the league!

Being a hard core fan we can easily get lost in the day to day shit. We want to win now and really have no patience for the kind of crap we have seen from AR. Very understandable. I think, however, if you take a wider view it becomes apparent that this could be just part of a growth pattern for a young man. Nobody knows how this will turn out and that is the fun of sports. I am not sold that this will turn out great, he hasn't played a good complete game for us yet, but feel this pattern falls within 'normal' of a young persons growth. I put a ton into the fact that this young man seems to have almost zero asshole in him and seems to be maturing. I actually love how he has handled his tapping out (not that he did it but how he dealt with the repercussions) I see growth thru my rose colored glasses. Patience will bring dividends.

[YDFL Commish]

2nd series vs Ravens, Richardson injured again!

[IndyNorm]

2nd series vs Ravens, Richardson injured again!

The showed him a little later standing on the sideline putting headphones on and not getting looked at, so hopefully he was just shook up a bit and the Colts kept him out for precautionary reasons.

[apballin]

The showed him a little later standing on the sideline putting headphones on and not getting looked at, so hopefully he was just shook up a bit and the Colts kept him out for precautionary reasons.

Dislocated pinky, it got interesting real quick