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ChoppedWood
12-29-2024, 05:21 PM
1- Fuck Chris Ballard
Dewey 5
12-29-2024, 05:23 PM
If Irsay runs it back with this crew he'll lose the fans. No one likes it but a total house cleaning is in order. Black Monday can't get her soon enough
Colts And Orioles
12-29-2024, 05:24 PM
1- Fuck Chris Ballard.
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Hey ....... I gave you my blessing to fuck each and every player on the Colts' roster if they lost to the Giants today, but not necessarily to fuck Chris Ballard.
If you want to fuck Ballard too, that's on you.
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Mr. Session
12-29-2024, 05:36 PM
Steichen got worse this year.
I don't believe at this point he has the ability to establish/build a culture. He is not personable nor impressive in the way a guy like Dungy was. Pagano was personable, you knew the players liked him.
Steichen looks like an asshole and assholes are only okay when you're winning. I appreciate his sense of urgency after watching Reich's helpless facial expressions but I do not think it resonates with the players.
If Steichen isn't a schematic genius, which he does not appear to be, I'm not sure what the plan is here.
HoosierinFL
12-29-2024, 05:52 PM
At times I've been an apologist for the defense this year. Games where turnovers put them in a bad spot, or failure to sustain drives on offense kept putting them back on the field until they were gassed.
But today, 45 points to that shit team, nah. That was just bad.
PowayColt
12-29-2024, 05:54 PM
Steichen looks like a homeless guy you find on the street. No motivation and horrible "in game" decisions. With our newish QB playing a lot more this season we are finishing with a worse record. I'll give him (AR) one more year but he will have to show he can actually throw the ball. Flacco got 300+ yards today. It felt strange seeing all those passing yards like a real NFL team is supposed to get.
I would keep Gus Bradley until the plane lands in Indianapolis tonight, then can him. The Giants averaged 14 points a game until they found Bradley's defense.
omahacolt
12-29-2024, 05:54 PM
1) don't want to see a guy like flacco on the roster for 3 years
2) everyone needs fired. coaches and front office. most of the players. there are a few players that can be kept but fuck most of them
3) JT is a great player but very stupid. he is a smart guy but a dumb football player. constantly does dumb shit.
4) Franklin should never put on the uniform again. I haven't disliked a player this much for a long time. you are a "savage" that lead the defense to have the most embarrassing game in years. fuck you. get off this team. dude will be out of the league in 2 years.
5) speed and blackmon need to go. taven Bryan needs to go. most everyone on the defense needs replaced
6) this team doesn't care. they play like they don't care. they podcast like they don't care. the locker room needs a complete overhaul. these captains are garbage. no way they earned that title.
7) I hate this team. the constant history making in the wrong way. making backups look like legends. happens every week. this team is embarrassing and they trot out there the next week and do the same shit. i fucking hate them. redo it all
8) blackmon was so fucking bad. how is he even playing at this point? how? someone please explain it to me because I don't fucking understand.
9) I like pierce. I don't really want to be a positive dude today but fuck that kid is one that gives effort every single play. that is your fucking captain.
10) can't just fire gus and roll. can't do it. can't scapegoat him. this is Ballards ingredients and Steichen cooking. these guys are a weekly embarrassment. it all has to go. all of it.
11) I hate this team. have to reiterate that. hate them. I want them to win but get satisfaction that the media talks about how terrible they are and embarrassing. they deserve it. fuck them. fuck Zaire "savage" Franklin.
12) absolutely have to have vets from teams like the chiefs, Ravens or niners come on board and not put up with the shit this team tries to pass off as leadership. create winning expectations
13) fuck this team
apballin
12-29-2024, 05:55 PM
Steichen got worse this year.
I don't believe at this point he has the ability to establish/build a culture. He is not personable nor impressive in the way a guy like Dungy was. Pagano was personable, you knew the players liked him.
Steichen looks like an asshole and assholes are only okay when you're winning. I appreciate his sense of urgency after watching Reich's helpless facial expressions but I do not think it resonates with the players.
If Steichen isn't a schematic genius, which he does not appear to be, I'm not sure what the plan is here.
Couldn’t agree more… not to mention the in season suspension of your franchise QB for actions that you clearly knew were going on and then you decided to run his nose in it.
This team needs someone to come in and demand respect and hold guys accountable.. Mr. Never call a timeout, constantly spitting on the sidelines, tries to get cute way too much, tries to get guys TDs like it’s little league instead of feeding your best players.
It’s time for him to go
omahacolt
12-29-2024, 05:58 PM
I want to see the locker room footage after this game. what does that look like? probably a bunch of laughter and nonsense. probably 7 guys in that room are pissed. the rest are already booking trips. fuck this team.
YDFL Commish
12-29-2024, 06:00 PM
What a complete microcosm of the season.
Dropped passes: ✅
Special teams blunders: ✅
JT mental miscues: ✅
Poor tackling: ✅
No QB pressure: ✅
No forced turnovers: ✅
Poor pass coverage: ✅
Steichen chasing points: ✅
Gimmick plays going embarrassingly bad: ✅
Stupid Flacco int's: ✅
Dumb play calls: ✅
AD Mitchell short arming another pass: ✅
Feel free to add on. There is nothing to look forward to, unless you like the smell of a smoldering dumpster fire!
omahacolt
12-29-2024, 06:01 PM
What a complete microcosm of the season.
Dropped passes: ✅
Special teams blunders: ✅
JT mental miscues: ✅
Poor tackling: ✅
No QB pressure: ✅
No forced turnovers: ✅
Poor pass coverage: ✅
Steichen chasing points: ✅
Gimmick plays going embarrassingly bad: ✅
Stupid Flacco int's: ✅
Dumb play calls: ✅
Feel free to add on. There is nothing to look forward to, unless you like the smell of a smoldering dumpster fire!
pretty much nailed it
njcoltfan
12-29-2024, 06:01 PM
Steichen got worse this year.
I don't believe at this point he has the ability to establish/build a culture. He is not personable nor impressive in the way a guy like Dungy was. Pagano was personable, you knew the players liked him.
Steichen looks like an asshole and assholes are only okay when you're winning. I appreciate his sense of urgency after watching Reich's helpless facial expressions but I do not think it resonates with the players.
If Steichen isn't a schematic genius, which he does not appear to be, I'm not sure what the plan is here.
Get rid of him, and every other coach, along with Ballard and Richardson, the Colt's 6'5' 260lb QB who would miss a game if he had a paper cut !!!!
apballin
12-29-2024, 06:04 PM
Get rid of him, and every other coach, along with Ballard and Richardson, the Colt's 6'5' 260lb QB who would miss a game if he had a paper cut !!!!
Yep I’m tired of making excuses for that guy too, can’t rely on him.
He can’t pass accurately and gets hurt when he runs. It’s year 2 the age excuse has run it’s course
YDFL Commish
12-29-2024, 06:16 PM
Irsay, Ballard and Steichen need to face the media, as if it's congressional investigation.
How the fuck is it acceptable to put that garbage on the field?
CletusPyle
12-29-2024, 06:31 PM
All excellent takes, I know it won't happen but I would love to see them bring up Bean for this last game, we know what we have with Sam, no point, Flacco had a good game to go out on....let the kid have a shot!
YDFL Commish
12-29-2024, 06:33 PM
All excellent takes, I know it won't happen but I would love to see them bring up Bean for this last game, we know what we have with Sam, no point, Flacco had a good game to go out on....let the kid have a shot!
100% agree. At least he will play like his hair is on fire.
ChoppedWood
12-29-2024, 06:34 PM
We will most likely go with AR again next week, and in the announcement of such, Steichen will alert us that it gives us our best chance to make the playoffs. That's where we are right now...
Thorgrim
12-29-2024, 06:45 PM
We will most likely go with AR again next week, and in the announcement of such, Steichen will alert us that it gives us our best chance to make the playoffs. That's where we are right now...
With tears of pride welling in his eyes and lips trembling with emotion Steichen will announce that he will be resting Sam Ehlinger next week to keep him healthy for the playoffs. Richardson, Flacco, and AD Mitchell will rotate snaps to earn the right to be Ehlinger's backup. He'll close by pumping his fist and yelling "first round bye baby!"
nate505
12-29-2024, 06:48 PM
Poor tackling: ✅
You might as well put 20 more checkboxes on this one.
The tackling from an NFL team today was about as horrible as it gets. Shockingly terrible.
Racehorse
12-29-2024, 06:54 PM
You might as well put 20 more checkboxes on this one.
The tackling from an NFL team today was about as horrible as it gets. Shockingly terrible.
Our tackling was reminiscent of the shooting abilities of Storm troopers. It really was that bad.
Hoopsdoc
12-29-2024, 08:44 PM
This team has a culture problem. As in, they have none. They have a bunch of guys worrying about their next contract or not getting hurt and very few worried about winning the game they’re playing at the moment.
They have no leaders at all. If they had one true leader, they wouldn’t have tried to coast to a win today.
I’m not sure I blame Steichen as much as I blame Ballard. Ballard is obsessed with building a team full of the best athletes at the expense of guys who can actually play, or guys with character.
There are no Gary Bracketts or Mike Adams or Cory Reddings on this roster.
And that is 100 percent on Ballard.
Hell, even Ryan Grigson knew that you need some character. You can’t just sign 52 of the best athletes you can find and expect them to be a team. You’ve got to have some leaders. Some guys who will put it on the line.
I’m so freaking done with this bunch. I will not be watching next week. Cause you know what’s going to happen. They’ll play decently well and act like everything else all roses going into next year.
Fuck that. Fuck every single one of these assholes.
Colts And Orioles
12-29-2024, 08:52 PM
This team has a culture problem ...... as in, they have none. l They have a bunch of guys worrying about their next contract and/or not getting hurt, and very few worried about winning the game that they’re playing in at the moment.
They have no leaders at all ...... if they had one true leader, they wouldn’t have tried to coast to a win today.
I’m not sure that I blame Steichen as much as I blame Ballard. Ballard is obsessed with building a team full of the best athletes, at the expense of guys who can actually play, and/or guys with character.
There are no Gary Bracketts, or Mike Adams, or Cory Reddings, on this roster.
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The Colts have culture ...... that culture is being a perennially middling team, just good enough to keep the fans hoping for a low-seed playoff berth until late in the season, and just bad enough to not be a bona-fide contender that is capable of making a deep playoff run.
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Brylok
12-29-2024, 08:53 PM
The Colts have wallowed in mediocrity since the moment Andrew Luck up and quit in August of 2019. That is the singular event that started all of this. The team should have been blown up, and total rebuild started, way back then. It wasn't, and here we are. It HAS to be blown up and rebuilt now. If it isn't, don't expect anything to improve. Things will probably get worse. Flame away.
Hoopsdoc
12-29-2024, 09:00 PM
The Colts have wallowed in mediocrity since the moment Andrew Luck up and quit in August of 2019. That is the singular event that started all of this. The team should have been blown up, and total rebuild started, way back then. It wasn't, and here we are. It HAS to be blown up and rebuilt now. If it isn't, don't expect anything to improve. Things will probably get worse. Flame away.
Not to nitpick, but they actually had one decent season after Luck quit. They went 11-5 in 2020 with an ancient Philip Rivers, the one guy they’ve had in recent years who had any balls at all.
Rivers was washed up by then, but he gave everything he had. He was the antithesis of the pussies we have now.
Colts And Orioles
12-29-2024, 09:03 PM
The Colts have wallowed in mediocrity since the moment Andrew Luck up and quit in August of 2019 l That is the singular event that started all of this. The team should have been blown up, and total rebuild started, way back then. It wasn't, and here we are. It HAS to be blown up and rebuilt now. If it isn't, don't expect anything to improve. Things will probably get worse. Flame away.
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I completely agree with this first sentence, with the lone exception being the 2020 season in which Philip Rivers (along with an outstanding offensive line) led the team to an 11-6 record in the regular season, and then took Josh Allen's Buffalo Bills right down to the wire on their homefield in New York State in the playoffs ...... YDFL Commish recently pointed out that we had bona-fide leadership when Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, and Philip Rivers played here, and not in all of the other years (2011, 2017 through 2019, and 2021 through 2024.)
Matt Ryan may have been able to do what Rivers did in 2022, but the offensive line was the complete antithesis of the 2020 offensive line (they were great in 2020, and absolutely horrible in 2022) ...... if Philip Rivers had had Matt Ryan's offensive line "blocking" for him, he would not have survived half the season, let alone led the team to 11 wins and a playoff berth.
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Dewey 5
12-29-2024, 09:21 PM
McAfee not holding anything back. Irsay better be paying attention
https://x.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1873533490005672017
Hoopsdoc
12-29-2024, 09:28 PM
McAfee not holding anything back. Irsay better be paying attention
https://x.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1873533490005672017
I mean, he’s not wrong about the team. And as hard as it is to admit, maybe he’s not wrong about Richardson.
The infamous tap out and then the equally infamous “explanation” for it. Stepping out of bounds 2 yards short of a first down. The whispers about the work ethic and being late for meetings.
Maybe we should just totally clean house. Get rid of everyone. Resign Flacco and draft a guy.
Dewey 5
12-29-2024, 09:34 PM
I mean, he’s not wrong about the team. And as hard as it is to admit, maybe he’s not wrong about Richardson.
The infamous tap out and then the equally infamous “explanation” for it. Stepping out of bounds 2 yards short of a first down. The whispers about the work ethic and being late for meetings.
Maybe we should just totally clean house. Get rid of everyone. Resign Flacco and draft a guy.
There is no maybe. Total house cleaning is in order.
rm1369
12-29-2024, 09:46 PM
I mean, he’s not wrong about the team. And as hard as it is to admit, maybe he’s not wrong about Richardson.
The infamous tap out and then the equally infamous “explanation” for it. Stepping out of bounds 2 yards short of a first down. The whispers about the work ethic and being late for meetings.
Maybe we should just totally clean house. Get rid of everyone. Resign Flacco and draft a guy.
The issue isn’t AR, the issue is a locker room culture where that stuff wouldn’t be immediately corrected. Young players struggle with learning expectations all the time, but they should have leaders in the locker room that model professionalism for them and hold players accountable. The best teams have leadership and vision from top to bottom - GM, coaches, vet players. The Colts have none. They have none because of Ballard’s team building philosophy. I will point out again Ballard downplaying vets because he expect his coaches to set the culture. It was one of the first things that turned me off about him. That and his gifting of positions to young players and his plan to slow roll team building with Luck on the roster. Those three things told me he was going to be a shit GM. And he’s proven to be exactly that. He’s built a roster full of decent players who lack leadership and accountability. He’s failed AR way more than AR has failed the team. Those things from AR are a symptom of Ballard’s leadership.
rm1369
12-29-2024, 09:55 PM
There is no maybe. Total house cleaning is in order.
Total house cleaning in the offices. The roster needs some cancers cut out but not a complete turnover. They need a GM that comes in a says we are winning this coming year and then acts like it. They need a coach that holds players accountable. And they need to overpay a few vets from winning teams to help set the right culture in the locker room. You aren’t going to build a winning culture by repeating Ballard’s 8 year plan or “next year”. There is enough talent on the roster to be a playoff team next year with a culture overhaul and some added vet talent.
Dewey 5
12-29-2024, 09:59 PM
The issue isn’t AR, the issue is a locker room culture where that stuff wouldn’t be immediately corrected. Young players struggle with learning expectations all the time, but they should have leaders in the locker room that model professionalism for them and hold players accountable. The best teams have leadership and vision from top to bottom - GM, coaches, vet players. The Colts have none. They have none because of Ballard’s team building philosophy. I will point out again Ballard downplaying vets because he expect his coaches to set the culture. It was one of the first things that turned me off about him. That and his gifting of positions to young players and his plan to slow roll team building with Luck on the roster. Those three things told me he was going to be a shit GM. And he’s proven to be exactly that. He’s built a roster full of decent players who lack leadership and accountability. He’s failed AR way more than AR has failed the team. Those things from AR are a symptom of Ballard’s leadership.
That's a lot of words when you can just say that Ballard is an incompetent dipshit & a fraud.
ChoppedWood
12-29-2024, 10:00 PM
The issue isn’t AR, the issue is a locker room culture where that stuff wouldn’t be immediately corrected. Young players struggle with learning expectations all the time, but they should have leaders in the locker room that model professionalism for them and hold players accountable. The best teams have leadership and vision from top to bottom - GM, coaches, vet players. The Colts have none. They have none because of Ballard’s team building philosophy. I will point out again Ballard downplaying vets because he expect his coaches to set the culture. It was one of the first things that turned me off about him. That and his gifting of positions to young players and his plan to slow roll team building with Luck on the roster. Those three things told me he was going to be a shit GM. And he’s proven to be exactly that. He’s built a roster full of decent players who lack leadership and accountability. He’s failed AR way more than AR has failed the team. Those things from AR are a symptom of Ballard’s leadership.
Totally agree. The removal of that fucking arrogant scumbag would IMMEDIATELY improve this team. The dude is a con man, a fraud, and complete and total blow hard with nothing behind it but fucking unwarranted hubris. IMO, he is perhaps the worst GM in all of sports. I cannot wait to see the headline announcing he has been removed from the building.
YDFL Commish
12-29-2024, 10:10 PM
They need a coach that holds players accountable. And they need to overpay a few vets from winning teams to help set the right culture in the locker room.
This is the critical part of your statement. The current players do not know what it takes to win and will never know, until leaders come in who will raise the standard. The bar is so low right now, that I could jump over it.
Replace the entire defensive staff, because not a single position group on that side of the ball is performing.
rm1369
12-29-2024, 10:19 PM
Totally agree. The removal of that fucking arrogant scumbag would IMMEDIATELY improve this team. The dude is a con man, a fraud, and complete and total blow hard with nothing behind it but fucking unwarranted hubris. IMO, he is perhaps the worst GM in all of sports. I cannot wait to see the headline announcing he has been removed from the building.
I pray it happens but I’m not convinced it will. I’m afraid he will convince Irsay he just needs one more year for it all to finally come together. Seems crazy to think but then I see he still has supporters on here willing to do just that.
Dewey 5
12-29-2024, 10:29 PM
I pray it happens but I’m not convinced it will. I’m afraid he will convince Irsay he just needs one more year for it all to finally come together. Seems crazy to think but then I see he still has supporters on here willing to do just that.
Ballard is a snake oil salesman for sure.
omahacolt
12-29-2024, 11:39 PM
I do wonder if something is up with the team and AR. Steichen just saying he is sore and not letting him speak to the media just doesn't sit well with me. something seems off here. and its the colts, so there probably is something dumb going on.
will be very telling if AR is out again next week
ChoppedWood
12-30-2024, 12:02 AM
I do wonder if something is up with the team and AR. Steichen just saying he is sore and not letting him speak to the media just doesn't sit well with me. something seems off here. and its the colts, so there probably is something dumb going on.
will be very telling if AR is out again next week
Thought the same thing. No sign of injury at all to end the Denver game, then all the sudden he isn't practicing, they are "optimistic" but then he is OUT.
At some point the levee's gonna break if all this smoke has fire behind it no matter how hard they try to keep it under wraps. McAfee's comments absolutely allude to it.
apballin
12-30-2024, 12:09 AM
I do wonder if something is up with the team and AR. Steichen just saying he is sore and not letting him speak to the media just doesn't sit well with me. something seems off here. and its the colts, so there probably is something dumb going on.
will be very telling if AR is out again next week
Something is definitely up, Steichen has done AR no favors. AR has regressed and Steichens play calling and mishandling of a young project QB has been a disaster. Not to mention blasting him in the media. Basically calling him a pussy saying he’s out for the game with back soreness.
omahacolt
12-30-2024, 12:13 AM
Thought the same thing. No sign of injury at all to end the Denver game, then all the sudden he isn't practicing, they are "optimistic" but then he is OUT.
At some point the levee's gonna break if all this smoke has fire behind it no matter how hard they try to keep it under wraps. McAfee's comments absolutely allude to it.
he ran a lot against the Titans. backs are weird and it could pop up at anytime during the week. but everything around the situation just seems off.
could be nothing but I just assume with this team, something dumb is happening
apballin
12-30-2024, 12:52 AM
he ran a lot against the Titans. backs are weird and it could pop up at anytime during the week. but everything around the situation just seems off.
could be nothing but I just assume with this team, something dumb is happening
But again what’s that say about the leader of your team sitting out with “back spasms” yet Pittmans gutting it out every week with back problems
Hoopsdoc
12-30-2024, 06:06 AM
I do wonder if something is up with the team and AR. Steichen just saying he is sore and not letting him speak to the media just doesn't sit well with me. something seems off here. and its the colts, so there probably is something dumb going on.
will be very telling if AR is out again next week
I think you might be on to something here. Because that was just an inexplicable collapse yesterday.
Seems very possible that something else is going on.
albany ed
12-30-2024, 08:59 AM
Watching the team this year brings me back to the 80's. Shitty team, shitty season but hey, at least we beat the Jets.
njcoltfan
12-30-2024, 09:37 AM
McAfee not holding anything back. Irsay better be paying attention
https://x.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1873533490005672017
Is Irsay alive ??
Mr. Session
12-30-2024, 09:47 AM
Some really solid takes on reddit today, IMO -
r/Colts
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16 hr. ago
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With the Colts loss today, Chris Ballard officially becomes the longest tenured non-multi role General Manager (i.e. not an owner, CEO, principal etc) in NFL history to have a losing record and not have multiple playoff wins or a conference championship appearance.
He takes that title from former Houston Oilers GM Ladd Herzeg, who set the record in 1988.
llamas_for_caddies
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16h ago
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This is the culture Ballard developed. No one fears for their job.
His infinite patience & loyalty means no one worries about outside free agents taking their job.
Don't be awful and you'll earn that sweet, sweet 2nd contract $ then you too can chill with the other over paid vets.
Hoopsdoc
12-30-2024, 10:18 AM
Some really solid takes on reddit today, IMO -
Those are solid takes.
Is there a single guy Ballard has resigned to a big second contract who hasn’t regressed?
Stewart and Buckner maybe. I can’t really think of anyone else.
Nelson, Smith, JT, Kelly, Shaq Leonard, Franklin, all those guys lost a step as soon as they got those big deals.
apballin
12-30-2024, 10:50 AM
Those are solid takes.
Is there a single guy Ballard has resigned to a big second contract who hasn’t regressed?
Stewart and Buckner maybe. I can’t really think of anyone else.
Nelson, Smith, JT, Kelly, Shaq Leonard, Franklin, all those guys lost a step as soon as they got those big deals.
I disagree, the problem has been the disagreement with the QB position. They’ve become too concerned with how these guys are viewed off the field.
Team full of good guys that will stop and change a tire, unfortunately a team full of those guys will never win shit in the NFL
omahacolt
12-30-2024, 11:36 AM
But again what’s that say about the leader of your team sitting out with “back spasms” yet Pittmans gutting it out every week with back problems
not all back problems are the same. obviously
CletusPyle
12-30-2024, 11:51 AM
McAfee not holding anything back. Irsay better be paying attention
https://x.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1873533490005672017
Hard to disagree with any of this....surprised he has to buy his own season tickets?
apballin
12-30-2024, 11:56 AM
not all back problems are the same. obviously
He’s a pussy and they enable him
Can’t rely on a guy that plays half the time
Sends the wrong message to the guys playing thru all their injuries, nobody is 100 percent right now
When you need him the most he’s not there
Brylok
12-30-2024, 12:41 PM
11:40 Monday morning...I see nobody has been fired yet. I'm not surprised. Oh, well.
YDFL Commish
12-30-2024, 12:45 PM
11:40 Monday morning...I see nobody has been fired yet. I'm not surprised. Oh, well.
Who's going to do the firing? Irsay, Carlie, Ballard, Steichen? Is there leadership from the top? I have no idea who's running this team anymore.
Does anybody care?
Brylok
12-30-2024, 12:51 PM
Who's going to do the firing? Irsay, Carlie, Ballard, Steichen? Is there leadership from the top? I have no idea who's running this team anymore.
Does anybody care?
Not as much as the fans. And that is another problem. And sad.
nate505
12-30-2024, 12:56 PM
Nobody is going to get fired until next week.
Not that I think anyone will get fired next week, but if it's happening that's when it will happen.
That said, something has to happen. Personally if I had some sort of magic wand I'd clean house of Steichen and Ballard and have Irsay step down and let one of his daughters take over the role, but at the very least one needs to go (and frankly, Ballard is probably the first). If not, I'm here with the pitchforks with the rest of you.
ChoppedWood
12-30-2024, 01:19 PM
Nobody is going to get fired until next week.
Not that I think anyone will get fired next week, but if it's happening that's when it will happen.
That said, something has to happen. Personally if I had some sort of magic wand I'd clean house of Steichen and Ballard and have Irsay step down and let one of his daughters take over the role, but at the very least one needs to go (and frankly, Ballard is probably the first). If not, I'm here with the pitchforks with the rest of you.
Coming out of the Tits game and going into mid last week I would have said the team HAD to shed Ballard and Bradley to switch the culture and actually begin improving vs just idling.
After the AR situation, and the incomprehensible debacle that was yesterday, I don't think there's a single grain of sand level of good to come from retaining Steichen at this point; he clearly is not doing SHIT to make this a better team and who the FUCK knows what is really going down between him and AR.
I would take this approach if I were Jim / the daughters:
- Ballard
- Steichen
- Bradley
- Cross
- Blackmon
- Cox
- Ogletree
- Mitchell (we have a really nice top 3- ditch this fucking ME>WE loser right now to set a HUGE tone with the guys in the locker room!)
- Womack (he has tried, he has done what I think is his best- and that's not good enough- set the tone that we are DONE living with bottom tier talent taking key spots on the team)
All that above are gone next Monday morning!
Make it very clear in the presser- this team is going to change. Make a very clear statement that EVERY player will be reviewed and there are NO sacred cows. Go so far as making a statement that the evaluation of Richardson is incomplete and that is one of the main drivers of Steichen being let go as well (really financially it is at the end of next year they MUST know based on the 5th year option). Also add that the new GM and HC will sit down and evaluate every position on the team and will make all the personnel decisions between the date of hire and the start of next years TC to create a whole new culture on 56th street.
New GM and HC are given complete latitude to review both AR and JT. If they determine they can serve us better by being on different teams that will give us draft picks, then ship them both and just get what you can for both of them. Nobody is going to convince me either of them are franchise players, and we need to fucking develop some franchise level players. You aren't going to do that without extra draft capital.
Commit to going heavy in FA for vets that have played in some challenging circumstances but have shown the grit to persevere. Tell these guys they are there to serve as mentors for the young guys that are going to go through hell rebuilding this shit.
This is what the fans expect! Get rid of the loser mentality, get rid of the acceptance of mediocrity, tell the fans there are major changes in responsibility and expectations that are in place from the end of that presser going forward. We need hope and anything short of the above, will not provide that hope.
Tired of this trash ass half ass approach. Get some real fucking football minds in here and turn this shit around!
ChoppedWood
12-30-2024, 01:46 PM
"Bum Tendencies!"
Holy Shit- MacAfee just declared that the team has BUM tendencies.
Damn man, if you are a higher up Colts staffer, if you are Jim Irsay, man you cannot look away from this. One of the highest profile players in your team's history, is saying your front office supports the mentality of a bum!
Dude, you gotta take heads off after this, you just have to!
Dewey 5
12-30-2024, 02:38 PM
Who's going to do the firing? Irsay, Carlie, Ballard, Steichen? Is there leadership from the top? I have no idea who's running this team anymore.
Does anybody care?
Funny you say that because McAfee just asked the same question to Shefter.
Hoopsdoc
12-30-2024, 03:35 PM
not all back problems are the same. obviously
Steichens comments today were pretty revealing. He said AR was suffering from severe back spasms and legitimately was unable to play.
When asked why he characterized it as “soreness”, he gave some bs answer about wanting to keep injury stuff in house. Then he admitted he shouldn’t have used “soreness” to describe it.
I’m not sure exactly what’s happening in that building but I fear the level of dysfunction is higher than we thought.
I think it’s pretty clear that Steichen and AR don’t have the best relationship. They sure as hell don’t now if they did before.
That’s some total bullshit from Steichen and if I were AR, I’d be livid.
Brylok
12-30-2024, 04:49 PM
Half the fanbase wants AR gone.
Hoopsdoc
12-30-2024, 04:54 PM
Half the fanbase wants AR gone.
I think AR is about 20th on the list of problems that franchise has.
There’s a whole helluva lot of guys I’d replace before I replace AR. That includes players and management.
Dewey 5
12-30-2024, 05:12 PM
Who's going to do the firing? Irsay, Carlie, Ballard, Steichen? Is there leadership from the top? I have no idea who's running this team anymore.
Does anybody care?
I don't think Jim even knows where he shit last & there have been reports in the past that the daughters Irsay like Ballard. I think this franchise is in real trouble & they are just going to run it back in 2025.
Dewey 5
12-30-2024, 05:13 PM
Half the fanbase wants AR gone.
I mean he's a part time qb. It's always something with this guy. I wanted it to work & really thought it would but here we are.
rm1369
12-30-2024, 05:44 PM
He’s a pussy and they enable him
Can’t rely on a guy that plays half the time
Sends the wrong message to the guys playing thru all their injuries, nobody is 100 percent right now
When you need him the most he’s not there
I think AR is about 20th on the list of problems that franchise has.
There’s a whole helluva lot of guys I’d replace before I replace AR. That includes players and management.
I’m sure AR deserves some criticism, but I’m not sure what fans expect. You draft a historically inexperienced player at the toughest position in sports and you bring him into a fucking clown show organization with no direction. I have no idea whether or not AR can be a franchise guy. I see things that give me hope and I see things that give me concern. What I am confident of is that if he’s forced to do it under this regime he will have to do it in spite of them. They have fucked this up about as much as they could.
nate505
12-30-2024, 05:49 PM
Unless some great opportunity comes along for a QB, replacing AR without at least another year seems nuts to me.
I doubt his trade value is very high. If he and Steichen can't get on the same page, fire Steichen and bring in someone who can coach him up. So far he hasn't shown he's some great coach in this league. If the new guy can't and AR looks lost next year, fine, look for a replacement then.
DragonTails
12-30-2024, 06:27 PM
Can they sell the team, tear down the stadium, and maybe put up a shopping mall or movie theater?
omahacolt
12-30-2024, 07:04 PM
He’s a pussy and they enable him
Can’t rely on a guy that plays half the time
Sends the wrong message to the guys playing thru all their injuries, nobody is 100 percent right now
When you need him the most he’s not there
too small of a sample size. he blew out his shoulder last year. that isn't something you can walk off. this year, if he missed 3 games with all the running he does, I would say that should be expected. he is a physical runner and doesn't have the shiftiness of a guy like Lamar. he is going to get dinged up.
is he a pussy? maybe. I have had back issues so i understand the inability to do things with a fucked up back. could he have played through it? no clue. I don't know and neither do you.
there are plenty of things to criticize him for that we know are issues. I assume if he could play, he would have.
omahacolt
12-30-2024, 07:07 PM
Coming out of the Tits game and going into mid last week I would have said the team HAD to shed Ballard and Bradley to switch the culture and actually begin improving vs just idling.
After the AR situation, and the incomprehensible debacle that was yesterday, I don't think there's a single grain of sand level of good to come from retaining Steichen at this point; he clearly is not doing SHIT to make this a better team and who the FUCK knows what is really going down between him and AR.
I would take this approach if I were Jim / the daughters:
- Ballard
- Steichen
- Bradley
- Cross
- Blackmon
- Cox
- Ogletree
- Mitchell (we have a really nice top 3- ditch this fucking ME>WE loser right now to set a HUGE tone with the guys in the locker room!)
- Womack (he has tried, he has done what I think is his best- and that's not good enough- set the tone that we are DONE living with bottom tier talent taking key spots on the team)
All that above are gone next Monday morning!
Make it very clear in the presser- this team is going to change. Make a very clear statement that EVERY player will be reviewed and there are NO sacred cows. Go so far as making a statement that the evaluation of Richardson is incomplete and that is one of the main drivers of Steichen being let go as well (really financially it is at the end of next year they MUST know based on the 5th year option). Also add that the new GM and HC will sit down and evaluate every position on the team and will make all the personnel decisions between the date of hire and the start of next years TC to create a whole new culture on 56th street.
New GM and HC are given complete latitude to review both AR and JT. If they determine they can serve us better by being on different teams that will give us draft picks, then ship them both and just get what you can for both of them. Nobody is going to convince me either of them are franchise players, and we need to fucking develop some franchise level players. You aren't going to do that without extra draft capital.
Commit to going heavy in FA for vets that have played in some challenging circumstances but have shown the grit to persevere. Tell these guys they are there to serve as mentors for the young guys that are going to go through hell rebuilding this shit.
This is what the fans expect! Get rid of the loser mentality, get rid of the acceptance of mediocrity, tell the fans there are major changes in responsibility and expectations that are in place from the end of that presser going forward. We need hope and anything short of the above, will not provide that hope.
Tired of this trash ass half ass approach. Get some real fucking football minds in here and turn this shit around!
cross and Womack have been decent. I would not get rid of them. at the very least they are cheap, decent backups
apballin
12-30-2024, 07:11 PM
too small of a sample size. he blew out his shoulder last year. that isn't something you can walk off. this year, if he missed 3 games with all the running he does, I would say that should be expected. he is a physical runner and doesn't have the shiftiness of a guy like Lamar. he is going to get dinged up.
is he a pussy? maybe. I have had back issues so i understand the inability to do things with a fucked up back. could he have played through it? no clue. I don't know and neither do you.
there are plenty of things to criticize him for that we know are issues. I assume if he could play, he would have.
Your assumption is the main thing I’m criticizing, he’s missed too many games. I’m willing to live with the turnovers and missed throws I expected all that. A 6-4 250 guy that misses games like he’s Austin Collie or Paris Campbell I wasn’t expecting
Cam Newton missed 3 games his first 6 years in the NFL
omahacolt
12-30-2024, 07:52 PM
I mean he's a part time qb. It's always something with this guy. I wanted it to work & really thought it would but here we are.
he blew his shoulder out and missed a bunch of games. what did you want him to do? play left handed
omahacolt
12-30-2024, 07:55 PM
Your assumption is the main thing I’m criticizing, he’s missed too many games. I’m willing to live with the turnovers and missed throws I expected all that. A 6-4 250 guy that misses games like he’s Austin Collie or Paris Campbell I wasn’t expecting
Cam Newton missed 3 games his first 6 years in the NFL
athletes want to compete. maybe you are right and he is an outlier where he just doesn't give a fuck. those guys are so very rare that, especially at QB, that I don't think he would have just sat out that game.
why would he? the Giants are terrible. what QB wouldn't want to play them. just doesn't make sense and all of this shit is because Steichen and the colts are fucking dumb and don't understand how to deal with injuries.
YDFL Commish
12-30-2024, 08:20 PM
cross and Womack have been decent. I would not get rid of them. at the very least they are cheap, decent backups
I would keep Ogletree as well. MOC is almost certainly gone and Ogletree is at least a good cheap blocker. Blow up the rest of the TE room, Woods included.
Racehorse
12-30-2024, 08:27 PM
too small of a sample size. he blew out his shoulder last year. that isn't something you can walk off. this year, if he missed 3 games with all the running he does, I would say that should be expected. he is a physical runner and doesn't have the shiftiness of a guy like Lamar. he is going to get dinged up.
is he a pussy? maybe. I have had back issues so i understand the inability to do things with a fucked up back. could he have played through it? no clue. I don't know and neither do you.
there are plenty of things to criticize him for that we know are issues. I assume if he could play, he would have.
AR seems to be the type of guy who wants to play every game. I think he would have played if he could have.
apballin
12-30-2024, 10:27 PM
AR seems to be the type of guy who wants to play every game. I think he would have played if he could have.
So what are you guys implying here?
The team is not letting him play?
Bull fuckin shit… if he wanted to play he would’ve been out there. If they’re babying him to this degree it’s no wander this team is soft as Charmin
rm1369
12-30-2024, 10:44 PM
So what are you guys implying here?
The team is not letting him play?
Bull fuckin shit… if he wanted to play he would’ve been out there. If they’re babying him to this degree it’s no wander this team is soft as Charmin
We are aware of at least one instance where it was stated Richardson wanted to go back in and Steichen opted to sit him. At the time I thought it was a good move designed to encourage him to protect himself. Now I think that’s giving the organization too much credit. Regardless there is at least one instance we know of where he wanted to play and the team said no. After not allowing him to talk to the media, I’m very curious if this was another or not.
ChoppedWood
12-30-2024, 11:02 PM
We are aware of at least one instance where it was stated Richardson wanted to go back in and Steichen opted to sit him. At the time I thought it was a good move designed to encourage him to protect himself. Now I think that’s giving the organization too much credit. Regardless there is at least one instance we know of where he wanted to play and the team said no. After not allowing him to talk to the media, I’m very curious if this was another or not.
Listening to all these talking heads and all the leaking of dudes being late to meetings, refusing physical treatment to get back on the field, etc...
It sounds like this thing is just absolutely rotting from the inside out. So, with that said, I would not be surprised in the least if this latest issue with AR being "sore" isn't yet another "suspension" with Steichen trying to use his control over AR as a means to convey control. In doing so, to me at least it says he has NO control over this group. This whole thing stinks and needs to be sanitized by a raging fire.
YDFL Commish
12-30-2024, 11:12 PM
Listening to all these talking heads and all the leaking of dudes being late to meetings, refusing physical treatment to get back on the field, etc...
It sounds like this thing is just absolutely rotting from the inside out. So, with that said, I would not be surprised in the least if this latest issue with AR being "sore" isn't yet another "suspension" with Steichen trying to use his control over AR as a means to convey control. In doing so, to me at least it says he has NO control over this group. This whole thing stinks and needs to be sanitized by a raging fire.
Steichen may have no control because those above him are either overruling him or are just apathetic.
I appreciated it when coaches weren't afraid and were allowed to criticize players for lack of effort, poor attitude, or just be dumb as rocks!
Colts And Orioles
12-31-2024, 12:40 AM
Can they sell the team, tear down the stadium, and maybe put up a shopping mall or movie theater ???
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They could do that.
They could move the team to Louisville, and become the Kentucky Colts ...... and if that happened, perhaps the fans in the city of Indianapolis can evolve into the same narcissistic crybabies that the fans in the city of Baltimore became when they lost the Colts, and bitch and moan for the next 40 years about how their team and their culture was stolen from them.
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Racehorse
12-31-2024, 11:39 AM
So what are you guys implying here?
The team is not letting him play?
Bull fuckin shit… if he wanted to play he would’ve been out there. If they’re babying him to this degree it’s no wander this team is soft as Charmin
None of that. The dude has an injury preventing him from being effective.
omahacolt
12-31-2024, 03:58 PM
So what are you guys implying here?
The team is not letting him play?
Bull fuckin shit… if he wanted to play he would’ve been out there. If they’re babying him to this degree it’s no wander this team is soft as Charmin
I am implying that he wasn't healthy enough to play. that if he was healthy enough to play, he would have.
you are implying that he just didn't want to play. which is very unlikely
apballin
12-31-2024, 06:15 PM
I am implying that he wasn't healthy enough to play. that if he was healthy enough to play, he would have.
you are implying that he just didn't want to play. which is very unlikely
So someone told him he couldn’t play and he agreed.
I’m sure if it were up to doctors Peyton Manning would have missed a lot of games.
If he wanted to play I’m sure he can over ride medical advice, it’s football. So again if they’re babying him and expecting the rest of the team to play thru everything I’m not surprised guys started booking trips to Cancun before the Giants game
YDFL Commish
12-31-2024, 06:31 PM
So someone told him he couldn’t play and he agreed.
I’m sure if it were up to doctors Peyton Manning would have missed a lot of games.
If he wanted to play I’m sure he can over ride medical advice, it’s football. So again if they’re babying him and expecting the rest of the team to play thru everything I’m not surprised guys started booking trips to Cancun before the Giants game
PM played with a broken jaw for multiple games of the 2001 season. In fact he missed only missed 1 play I believe.
Luck played with a lacerated kidney, among multiple other injuries.
Bert Jones played with a what amounted to a separated shoulder.
Something tells me that AR just isn't cut out for the NFL. But time will tell.
rm1369
12-31-2024, 07:10 PM
So someone told him he couldn’t play and he agreed.
I’m sure if it were up to doctors Peyton Manning would have missed a lot of games.
If he wanted to play I’m sure he can over ride medical advice, it’s football. So again if they’re babying him and expecting the rest of the team to play thru everything I’m not surprised guys started booking trips to Cancun before the Giants game
So when Steichen wouldn’t let him return to the Steelers game he should have said fuck coach and went out anyway? When Steichen benched him for two games should he have said fuck this and went out anyway? I mean no way would Peyton have taken being benched. The idea that a 22 yr old QB should over rule medical staff and his coach or he’s a pussy is so fucking ridiculous as to be absurd. Do you feel the same way about the shoulder surgery? Should he have disregarded the teams recommendations on having surgery and just played?
It’s funny how AR both sucks so much and at the same time him sitting is the reason the team collapsed against the Giants. I guess I just struggle to understand how he caused the collapse in Jacksonville a couple of years ago. Or the Saturday season. What I see is an inexperienced 22 yr old that’s shown symptoms of the clown show surrounding him. And I don’t know how you could have watched Colts football for the last 8 years and not seen the trends. The team quit because that’s what it does under Ballard. If the team felt it couldn’t beat the Giants with a backup QB then that says a hell of a lot more about the culture Ballard has built than it does about AR.
rm1369
12-31-2024, 07:11 PM
Luck played with a lacerated kidney, among multiple other injuries.
Remind me how that all worked out for the franchise…
apballin
12-31-2024, 08:13 PM
So when Steichen wouldn’t let him return to the Steelers game he should have said fuck coach and went out anyway? When Steichen benched him for two games should he have said fuck this and went out anyway? I mean no way would Peyton have taken being benched. The idea that a 22 yr old QB should over rule medical staff and his coach or he’s a pussy is so fucking ridiculous as to be absurd. Do you feel the same way about the shoulder surgery? Should he have disregarded the teams recommendations on having surgery and just played?
It’s funny how AR both sucks so much and at the same time him sitting is the reason the team collapsed against the Giants. I guess I just struggle to understand how he caused the collapse in Jacksonville a couple of years ago. Or the Saturday season. What I see is an inexperienced 22 yr old that’s shown symptoms of the clown show surrounding him. And I don’t know how you could have watched Colts football for the last 8 years and not seen the trends. The team quit because that’s what it does under Ballard. If the team felt it couldn’t beat the Giants with a backup QB then that says a hell of a lot more about the culture Ballard has built than it does about AR.
How long can you use his age as an excuse? It’s his 2nd year in the NFL regardless he chose to enter the draft early.
Have the Colts handled this the right way fuck no, I thought they had a plan in place for drafting a young project QB. Obviously they had no idea how to handle him. Obviously their vision was way off about an offense with him and Taylor.
I see potential in the dude but goddam you’ve gotta be out there that’s priority number 1. I’m not ready to give up on the guy but if he can’t figure out how to be a running QB and stay on the field then it will not matter anyway because he will not be around much longer
And no I had no problem with him getting the surgery, but as a competitor he should be fighting, screaming, breaking shit, or whatever it takes to get in that fuckin field. That’s who I want as my leader
YDFL Commish
12-31-2024, 09:19 PM
Remind me how that all worked out for the franchise…
The point is, not whether or not it worked. It's that QB's who are leaders, will put their ass on the line, as much or more than anybody on the team.
That sets the standard.
sherck
01-01-2025, 07:33 AM
Something tells me that AR just isn't cut out for the NFL. But time will tell.
While this may be true, having watched him on the field, I am pretty sure that AR just isn't cut out to be a QB in the NFL.
omahacolt
01-01-2025, 12:24 PM
So someone told him he couldn’t play and he agreed.
I’m sure if it were up to doctors Peyton Manning would have missed a lot of games.
If he wanted to play I’m sure he can over ride medical advice, it’s football. So again if they’re babying him and expecting the rest of the team to play thru everything I’m not surprised guys started booking trips to Cancun before the Giants game
so you are still assuming that he was healthy enough to play. with absolutely zero knowledge of what he was actually going through
omahacolt
01-01-2025, 12:26 PM
PM played with a broken jaw for multiple games of the 2001 season. In fact he missed only missed 1 play I believe.
Luck played with a lacerated kidney, among multiple other injuries.
Bert Jones played with a what amounted to a separated shoulder.
Something tells me that AR just isn't cut out for the NFL. But time will tell.
players should absolutely consult the medical team when deciding what to play through
guys used to play through concussions as well. look how that worked out for a lot of players.
Colts And Orioles
01-01-2025, 01:31 PM
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I've often said that the toughest SOB that I ever saw play QB was Ben Roethlisberger. And the 2nd toughest that I ever saw play was Tom Brady.
I just came across something in regard to l Doug Williams. lOn the final game of the 1982 season, the Buccaneers needed a win to beat the Bears to make the playoffs. In the 2nd quarter with the Buccaneers driving deep in Bears territory, Williams was sacked and he fumbled. Steve McMichael picked up the ball at the Bears' 28-yardline, and had clear sailing to the end-Zone (72 yards.) Williams was playing the game with a pulled hamstring, and he had just gotten sacked. He got up off of the ground and almost miraculously caught McMichael at the Buccaneers' 8-yardline, taking the 270-pound defensive tackle to the turf. Instead of a TD, the Bears had to settle for a FG ....... the Buccaneers won the game in overtime, sending them to the playoffs for the 3rd time in 4 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDm5qfarV8M
SIDENOTE: l I am a fan of Anthony Richardson, and I don't question his toughness. He often takes on defenders like a battering ram as though he were Earl Campbell or Jim Brown, something that very few quarterbacks in today's game do. I'm only sharing this story about Doug Williams because the subject of a quarterback's toughness has come to light in this thread.
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Colts And Orioles
01-01-2025, 01:51 PM
Players should absolutely consult the medical team when deciding what to play through.
Guys used to play through concussions as well ...... look at how that worked out for a lot of those players.
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People often point to the "good old days", when players sometimes played through pain and injuries. A good number of players from those "good old days" wound up with scrambled eggs for brains, and some have committed suicide. I don't think that anybody would ever question the toughness of Junior Seau, Mike Webster, Dave Duerson, or Andre Waters ...... but all of those players are now in a pine box, 6 feet under the ground, all of them died far too young. Sometimes we forget that these football players (both past and present) are human.
If Jim Otto had a bone of his finger literally sticking through his skin and wrapped a towel around his hand and continued playing, good for him ...... I personally don't hold players (past or present) to such insanely high standards.
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omahacolt
01-01-2025, 02:24 PM
AR says he has a disc issue per the doctors. was crawling around his house last Tuesday. couldn't walk
anyone thinking he is just being a bitch is a moron that has never had back issues before
ChoppedWood
01-01-2025, 02:43 PM
AR says he has a disc issue per the doctors. was crawling around his house last Tuesday. couldn't walk
anyone thinking he is just being a bitch is a moron that has never had back issues before
Incredible. Is there as SINGLE person in this entire organization that is good at public relations? Anyone, one, even an intern, someone on the property maintenance crew?
If this is true, and not some back room crafted fucking bullshit CYA story (probably drawn up by Ballard who seems like the type of guy that would lie to his mom about the money he stole out of her purse to buy steroids...), IF this is true, then man we need to get the fuck away from Steichen as fast as we possibly can. He is so bad at communicating that he is repeatedly putting his young and clearly confident deficient QB, in the cross hairs of the fanbase and the media.
Me, I think it's all bullshit and is some form of further Steichen trying to drive a point home with AR so they just keep fumbling the ball re: the story behind it. If so, well then we really have a big problem at QB and maturity that will probably never rectify itself.
ChoppedWood
01-01-2025, 02:47 PM
And for the good of the record, the 6-5" 250 QB that is most effective when just demolishing the defenders in front of him with brutal physicality- yeah that dude having a disc problem, not the greatest prognosis for the future...
Kray007
01-01-2025, 03:23 PM
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I completely agree with this first sentence, with the lone exception being the 2020 season in which Philip Rivers (along with an outstanding offensive line) led the team to an 11-6 record in the regular season, and then took Josh Allen's Buffalo Bills right down to the wire on their homefield in New York State in the playoffs ...... YDFL Commish recently pointed out that we had bona-fide leadership when Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, and Philip Rivers played here, and not in all of the other years (2011, 2017 through 2019, and 2021 through 2024.)
Matt Ryan may have been able to do what Rivers did in 2022, but the offensive line was the complete antithesis of the 2020 offensive line (they were great in 2020, and absolutely horrible in 2022) ...... if Philip Rivers had had Matt Ryan's offensive line "blocking" for him, he would not have survived half the season, let alone led the team to 11 wins and a playoff berth.
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Andrew luck was capable of driving a mediocre team into the playoffs. At this stage of his career, Anthony Richardson isn’t capable of taking a good team there. That’s not to say that maybe someday in the future he won’t be, but right now he doesn’t throw with the kind of anticipation we saw from Joe Flacco.
I don’t know if Chris Ballard’s head is on the chopping block this year; but I know that if Anthony Richardson doesn’t show real growth over the next 370 days, it might be.
Hoopsdoc
01-01-2025, 03:30 PM
AR says he has a disc issue per the doctors. was crawling around his house last Tuesday. couldn't walk
anyone thinking he is just being a bitch is a moron that has never had back issues before
Yeah, I always knew he would have played had he been able to. He wants to play and he wants to win.
I think his issues are in preparing to be successful at that level. He needs to learn that he has to put in the work.
For the record, I’ve always thought the tap out debacle was way overblown. It seemed like it got blown way out of proportion. I think it was a very young player who just wasnt thinking.
Hoopsdoc
01-01-2025, 03:32 PM
Incredible. Is there as SINGLE person in this entire organization that is good at public relations? Anyone, one, even an intern, someone on the property maintenance crew?
If this is true, and not some back room crafted fucking bullshit CYA story (probably drawn up by Ballard who seems like the type of guy that would lie to his mom about the money he stole out of her purse to buy steroids...), IF this is true, then man we need to get the fuck away from Steichen as fast as we possibly can. He is so bad at communicating that he is repeatedly putting his young and clearly confident deficient QB, in the cross hairs of the fanbase and the media.
Me, I think it's all bullshit and is some form of further Steichen trying to drive a point home with AR so they just keep fumbling the ball re: the story behind it. If so, well then we really have a big problem at QB and maturity that will probably never rectify itself.
I think Steichen and AR do not get along and that one of them won’t be back next year. Steichen seems all to eager to throw AR under the bus.
apballin
01-01-2025, 05:05 PM
This is a fuckin disaster
Where do we go from here
A back issue he’s saying doesn’t need surgery and he’s just gonna have to deal with
I need a fuckin drink
omahacolt
01-01-2025, 05:12 PM
This is a fuckin disaster
Where do we go from here
A back issue he’s saying doesn’t need surgery and he’s just gonna have to deal with
I need a fuckin drink
discs pop out and go back in. causing temporary issues. happened to me and I could barely move for 3 days. couldn't stand up straight for almost 2 days. was much better in a week.
doesn't always require surgery and disc may not be an issue in the near future
I don't get why people, who are not doctors, freak out and jump to conclusions about players.
apballin
01-01-2025, 05:21 PM
discs pop out and go back in. causing temporary issues. happened to me and I could barely move for 3 days. couldn't stand up straight for almost 2 days. was much better in a week.
doesn't always require surgery and disc may not be an issue in the near future
I don't get why people, who are not doctors, freak out and jump to conclusions about players.
Your not a fuckin football player
Your not quarterbacking my team
Your not a fuckin doctor either
Lastly you don’t know shit about me
I’ve had back problems as well and missed zero days of work, hobbling around in discomfort not being able to sleep all that shit unfortunately for me I didn’t get drafted #4 overall and get millions of dollars so I had to work
1965southpaw
01-01-2025, 07:28 PM
So I saw the AR interview on X where he mentions the disc issue. He goes on to say that this has been a problem for him since 8th grade! If this is true and Ballard recruited him knowing this, this is gross incompetence. If Ballard didn’t know this, this is gross incompetence. Ballard needs to go.
Dewey 5
01-01-2025, 08:19 PM
So I saw the AR interview on X where he mentions the disc issue. He goes on to say that this has been a problem for him since 8th grade! If this is true and Ballard recruited him knowing this, this is gross incompetence. If Ballard didn’t know this, this is gross incompetence. Ballard needs to go.
Holy shit! I just read about it. Chronic fucking back issues.
ChoppedWood
01-01-2025, 10:10 PM
Holy shit! I just read about it. Chronic fucking back issues.
Yep, this is just another bombshell in the litany of bombshells illuminating just how fucking bad at football Ballard is!
FUCKING FIRE THIS DUMB FUCK!
YDFL Commish
01-01-2025, 10:43 PM
I don't get why people, who are not doctors, freak out and jump to conclusions about players.
Maybe because we haven't been fed anything close to the truth, by the Colts brass concerning player injuries in 15 years?
They always tell us it's one thing, when it's entirely another. Is it the Colts medical staff, is it the GM, is it the PR people? I don't know, but this shit has to stop.
ChoppedWood
01-01-2025, 10:52 PM
maybe because we haven't been fed anything close to the truth, by the colts brass concerning player injuries in 15 years?
They always tell us it's one thing, when it's entirely another. Is it the colts medical staff, is it the gm, is it the pr people? I don't know, but this shit has to stop.
truth!
Racehorse
01-01-2025, 11:16 PM
Maybe because we haven't been fed anything close to the truth, by the Colts brass concerning player injuries in 15 years?
They always tell us it's one thing, when it's entirely another. Is it the Colts medical staff, is it the GM, is it the PR people? I don't know, but this shit has to stop.
The constant is Irsay.
YDFL Commish
01-01-2025, 11:44 PM
The constant is Irsay.
This is something that I've been dancing/insinuating around but, you sir are correct. The reason that I believe that you're on the right track though is his total botching of the Jonathan Taylor situation last season.
Irsay can't fire himself, but can't the Irsay daughters all take control of the team, since they are listed as co owners?
YDFL Commish
01-02-2025, 07:18 PM
So I saw the AR interview on X where he mentions the disc issue. He goes on to say that this has been a problem for him since 8th grade! If this is true and Ballard recruited him knowing this, this is gross incompetence. If Ballard didn’t know this, this is gross incompetence. Ballard needs to go.
What's up with posting once a year or so?
1965southpaw
01-03-2025, 10:11 PM
Lol. Guilty. Life gets in the way. I’m always lurking in the background though…….got eyes on you all. 👀 👀
Colts And Orioles
01-03-2025, 10:13 PM
LOL ...... guilty ...... life gets in the way.
I’m always lurking in the background, though ……. I've got eyes on you all. ) �� ��
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You talk too much ...... I wish that you would shut the fuck up already.
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1965southpaw
01-04-2025, 12:52 AM
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You talk too much ...... I wish that you would shut the fuck up already.
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:D:D
njcoltfan
01-04-2025, 08:16 AM
So I saw the AR interview on X where he mentions the disc issue. He goes on to say that this has been a problem for him since 8th grade! If this is true and Ballard recruited him knowing this, this is gross incompetence. If Ballard didn’t know this, this is gross incompetence. Ballard needs to go.
I couldn't have said it better myself !! This problem should have come out at the combine, why didn't it ??? The guy got drafted #4 in the draft, knowing that he had back problems, what's that say about his character, he scammed the entire NFL, and its medical staff !!!! LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!
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