OFFICIAL GAME THREAD: Season On the Line PART II (vs. BILLS, 11/10)

[Colts And Orioles]

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The last "Season On the Line" game thread was on September 22nd, when the 0-2 Colts desperately needed a win against the Bears.

Now, the 4-5 Colts desperately need a win against the Bills.




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[ChoppedWood]

The return of AR. Not by choice, but by injury. Late 3rd Qtr and we are already down 24 pts when he enters. We lose by 31. Scoring another whopping 10 points in this one.

The DAMN dam has broken and Gus Bradley is finally terminated on Monday morning. Shane Steichen claims he never knew Gus was running the defense until mid game and when he asked Ballard to finally, after asking him every day for a couple years now and being told that's not his business- finally Steichen demands saying he was no longer going to take no for an answer and demanded to know who is running this awful defense.

Chris Ballard takes to the air and declares he never wanted AR or Gus and he would be in favor of Shane being terminated too, advocates he should be given another 5 years to make this team in his mold because he knows how to win, Jim has just not allowed him to build the team he wants. To prove it, in a fit of steroid rage he rips off his shirt and flexes his pecs yelling that he has a better physique than every current player because he works harder at it than they do!

This is the sad state of the once proud Indianapolis Colts...

[Hoopsdoc]

Not even looking forward to watching them anymore, though I still do.

The Bills are on a roll and are going to kick our asses today.

I say 35-20 Buffalo.

[Brylok]

Not even looking forward to watching them anymore, though I still do.

The Bills are on a roll and are going to kick our asses today.

I say 35-20 Buffalo.

Same, especially if AR isn't playing. No, he isn't good, but he's not even learning (which I thought was the point this season).

31-13 Buffalo

[HoosierinFL]

It has definitely felt pointless to watch these games. I have no interest in watching joe flacco lead 2-3 FG drives while we lose again. If AR isn't playing then this shit is mediocre and boring.

[ChoppedWood]

It has definitely felt pointless to watch these games. I have no interest in watching joe flacco lead 2-3 FG drives while we lose again. If AR isn't playing then this shit is mediocre and boring.

Giants vs Panthers- an abysmal game, horrible. But it's on my TV- you know why, because Bryce Young is playing. Without him on the field as a curiosity, I would absolutely NOT watch this; Danny Dimes vs 97 year old Dalton- nope not tuning in.

Hey Jim, there's a message in there and judging by all the comments, that message isn't a few disgruntled fans on a msg board. WE FUCKING WANT ENTERTAINMENT, not the bullshit this admin is serving up right now!

[omahacolt]

D- on the title


colts do a little better today and cover the spread. still lose

[Colts And Orioles]

D- on the title.


The Colts will do a little better today, and cover the spread ...... but they will still lose the game.





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If you were my professor in college, I would still get a degree ...... I wouldn't be the Valedictorian like I was at Lehman College, but I would still get a degree.

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[TheMugwump]

Bills have too much offense.

45 - 10, the WNY team.

[apballin]

My dream scenario is Flacco starts out shitty the bills get out to a lead the fans get restless and AR comes in like one of his horseshoe predecessors…. Captain comeback….

Colts win a wild one 34-31

AR redeems himself and saves this shitty season

I mean a man can dream right?

[Colts And Orioles]

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Sam Darnold is having the best season of his career by far, and the play of the Colts' defense was the only reason why they were still in the game late in the 4th quarter of last week's contest against the Vikings.

This week, the Colts' defense has the task of trying to stop/contain one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL (Josh Allen) ...... good luck with that.

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[albany ed]

Playing a NY team, local broadcast for me. No need to go to a sports bar today. It would be nice to see a quality performance by the Colts, but I would be shocked if they pulled it off. Double digit loss feels about right.

[YDFL Commish]

It has definitely felt pointless to watch these games. I have no interest in watching joe flacco lead 2-3 FG drives while we lose again. If AR isn't playing then this shit is mediocre and boring.

You're assuming Gay hits his FG's?

[Colts And Orioles]

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Sam Darnold is having the best season of his career by far, and the play of the Colts' defense was the only reason why they were still in the game late in the 4th quarter of last week's contest against the Vikings.

This week, the Colts' defense has the task of trying to stop/contain one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL (Josh Allen) ...... good luck with that.

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Also, last week the Vikings did everything that they could to give the Colts the game, and the Colts wouldn't take it ...... I doubt that the Bills will be so generous.

The Colts need to play well to even stay in this game, let alone win it.

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[HoosierinFL]

You're assuming Gay hits his FG's?

No I meant drives ending in FG tries, not necessarily points.

[Colts And Orioles]

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Michael Pittman and 5 Others Inactive for Colts vs. Bills

(By Paul Bretl)

https://sports.yahoo.com/michael-pittman-5-others-inactive-163330433.html

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[nate505]

My wife is in the hospital today (not life threatening or anything, just for diviticulitis and will be discharged this afternoon), so I'll be watching this game later.

So let me get a few of these out of the way now:


What the fuck, why do we give these guys 10 yard cushions all the time

Great, Mr. Accuracy with a terrible drive.

Why is Richardson sitting again? Fuck you Steichen.

Holy fuck, they converted on third down!


Well, at least it was close, again

[CletusPyle]

Colts shock the world and win 35-34....see my Soda Picks results, they speak for themselves!:D

[Hoopsdoc]

Lol.

[Hoopsdoc]

That was as bad as ANYTHING AR has done.

[HoosierinFL]

This is such an improvement over AR. Give me more of this entertaining football

[CletusPyle]

Nice start....put AR in now!

[Brylok]

Hahaha! BOOOOoooo

[Hoopsdoc]

This team is toast. May not win another game.

Jesus Tap Dancing Christ.

[Colts And Orioles]

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At season's end, those 7 points will count against the Colts' defense.

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[YDFL Commish]

Great! Now we have a chance to win the Time of Possession.:rolleyes:

[Brylok]

AR should request a trade.

[Colts And Orioles]

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In that playoff game against the Bills 4 years ago of which the announcers just cited, Philip Rivers was literally untouched ....... not just not unsacked, he was LITERALLY UNTOUCHED by the Bills' defense.

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[njcoltfan]

This team is toast. May not win another game.

Jesus Tap Dancing Christ.

Another wasted year unless we end the Joe Flacco experiment now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CletusPyle]

Flacco is not the player he was for Cleveland last season....not sure if age caught up with him over the summer, or if he is just a dumbass!

[Brylok]

Flacco picked again. Boooo

[Butter]

AR on the sidelines saying I can do that coach.

[HoosierinFL]

This is brilliant QB play from Flacco. This is our guy for winning now, trade AR.

[Colts And Orioles]

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That second-effort by Jonathan Taylor on 4th down averted disaster ...... until Flacco just threw another INT.

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[YDFL Commish]

What a terrible throw! Flacco can't hit the layups.

[Hoopsdoc]

Bahahahahahaaaa!!!!

Steichen, you STUPID MOTHERFUCKER!!!!

FUCK YOU!!!!

[Racehorse]

Time for AER. Flacco is ass today

[Brylok]

An absolute football clinic by Ballard and Steichen.

[albany ed]

Another INT? At my house, I have two other games to watch Bucs/49ers or Chiefs/Broncos. Real football teams.

[CletusPyle]

If this game doesn't get better soon I am turning it off, but I suspect the NFL script has AR coming off the bench for a miraculous comeback and win!

[BCN#1]

ok. So its AR time finally?:p

[HoosierinFL]

IU basketball is on

[Colts And Orioles]

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We need to score on this drive ...... a pick-6, or a fumble-6.

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[CletusPyle]

Is this guy the Bills announcer in real life?

[Colts And Orioles]

IU basketball is on.





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So is IU football ...... they are 10-0 for the first time in their history.


http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=311172#post311172

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[Hoopsdoc]

What is that, 2 ints and a fumble in the first 7 or 8 offensive plays?

Ahahahahahaaaa

[njcoltfan]

Bahahahahahaaaa!!!!

Steichen, you STUPID MOTHERFUCKER!!!!

FUCK YOU!!!!
Time to clean house, Ballard, Steichen and Irsay !!!!

[Brylok]

Another INT? At my house, I have two other games to watch Bucs/49ers or Chiefs/Broncos. Real football teams.

I'm actually trying to find the Bears game. Scary days...

[Hoopsdoc]

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We need to score on this drive ...... a pick-6, or a fumble-6.

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This game is over. This team is done. Stick a fork in them.

[HoosierinFL]

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So is IU football ...... they are 10-0 for the first time in their history.


http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=311172#post311172

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That was yesterday, I mean iu bball is literally playing right now, 2nd half good lead over EIU

[Colts And Orioles]

That was yesterday, I mean IU basketball is literally playing right now, 2nd half good lead over EIU.





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I knew what you meant ...... I was making a play on words.


IU basketball is on, and IU football is ON.

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[Colts And Orioles]

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Cletus thanked my OP/thread starter, averting the shutout.

Also, I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance at GEICO.

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[Spike]

WTH are we doing?

Put AR in now! We aren't winning shit with Flacco, let the kid play. Rather lose with him than Flacco.

This organization has shit for brains.

[DragonTails]

That was yesterday, I mean iu bball is literally playing right now, 2nd half good lead over EIU

CSPAN is also on.

[CletusPyle]

Steichen is one pig headed bastard!

[Colts And Orioles]

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Last week, the Colts' defense scored 7 points, and the Colts' offense scored 6 points.

This week, the Colts' defense has given up 3 points so far, and the Colts' offense has given up 7 points so far.


The Colts' offense seems determined to rival the Colts' defense, but in all the wrong ways.

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[CletusPyle]

JT is still a beast....occasionally!

[CletusPyle]

Wtf!

[Racehorse]

More Taylor and less Flacco

[YDFL Commish]

Steichen refuses to run the ball!

[Spike]

JT is a beast, and of course we drop a sure TD pass. This team is cursed.

[CletusPyle]

When do we get see if the benching has woke up AR?

[Colts And Orioles]

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If Flacco throws another INT here, I'm going to blow up his fucking car in the parking lot.

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[CletusPyle]

JT is a beast, and of course we drop a sure TD pass. This team is cursed.

I really wish the Irsays would sell it to Forrest Lucas and family!

[Hoopsdoc]

Isn’t that the story of this season? The occasional good play(JT’s run) buried under an avalanche of gaffes and screwups.

Good catch, Downs.

[Colts And Orioles]

Steichen refuses to run the ball !!!





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More significantly, Downs refuses to catch it.

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[Colts And Orioles]

Steichen refuses to run the ball !!!






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More significantly, Downs refuses to catch it.

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Also, after Jonathan Taylor's 59-yard run, Steichen ran the ball on 1st down, and Taylor had no gain.

On 2nd down and goal from the 9 yardline, Flacco threw the ball right in Josh Downs' hands, and he dropped an easy touchdown.


So on that specific drive, I don't have a problem with Steichen's play-calling ...... I have a problem with his overall play-calling, but not on that specific drive.

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[Colts And Orioles]

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The Colts' defense was very lucky on that overthrow on 3rd down.

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[Brylok]

Bills leaving easy points on the field.

[Colts And Orioles]

The Bills are leaving easy points on the field.





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The Reich-whisperer.

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[CletusPyle]

Cousin Jim Bob getting some screen time!

[albany ed]

After a shit start, I'm beginning to think the Colts just may win.

[Spike]

AD Mitchell is damn quick.

[Spike]

JT looking good.

[Racehorse]

After a shit start, I'm beginning to think the Colts just may win.

The defense is playing well, outside of a few errors.

[CletusPyle]

New game....Shane's stubborness paid off this time!

[Brylok]

Let's go. Who knows what to make of this team?

[Spike]

Goodson finally caught a ball, lol. Damn nice drive!

[Colts And Orioles]

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The Colts' offense left 4 points on the field with Downs' dropped ball.

But the Bills also left 7 points on the board when Josh Allen overthrew w wide-open receiver on 3rd down, and then left 3 points on the board by eschewing a very makeable field goal attempt.

And of course, the Colt's offense gave 7 points away on a pick-6.



Both teams have screwed up their chances to win so far.

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[Brylok]

EJ Speed sighting

[CletusPyle]

Colts not going away....gotta give them credit, they are playing with effort!

[BCN#1]

What a turn around as I was damn close to finding something else to watch. Now Spped picked off Allen.... amazing.

[YDFL Commish]

The O-line has come to play!

[ChaosTheory]

Team needs to be gutted. Am I right?

Don't let Ballard fool you.

[BCN#1]

Dayum JT! 100 yrds already in 1st half!

[Colts And Orioles]

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I wonder what people are posting on l BillsFreaks l right about now ??? ) :confused:

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[Spike]

Fucking Braden Smith, dumbass.

JT over a 100 yards rushing already

[HoosierinFL]

Dayum JT! 100 yrds already in 1st half!

He is the team MVP no doubt

[ChaosTheory]

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I wonder what people are posting on l BillsFreaks l right about now ??? ) :confused:

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Fucking fire everyone. No chance against the Chiefs or other real contenders.

Same story for how many years now? Need a new owner.

[Colts And Orioles]

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After Flacco threw his 2nd INT early in the first quarter, who would have believed that the Colts would be leading the game by a score of 13-10 with 6 minutes-and-change left to play in the 2nd quarter ???

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[Brylok]

How is that Buffalo ball?

[albany ed]

That's the umpteenth time they've lined up on 4th and short and tried to draw the other team offsides. STOP FUCKIN' DOING THAT! It might work if every once in a while you actually did go through with it.

[Kray007]

I hate losing when my head coach makes stupid decisions.

[Hoopsdoc]

So frustrating because they can lose close games with AR as easily as they can with Flacco.

And they will lose.

But it’s a completely WASTED loss because they still don’t know what they have with AR and they’ve gotten no closer to finding out.

So freaking frustrating.

[rm1369]

Steichen is a fucking idiot and fucks up the end of the half time management almost every time.

[CletusPyle]

Shane needs to cut back on the caffeine!

[CletusPyle]

Our o-liner is not good enough to protect a statue!

[Racehorse]

Poor start to the half

[WaynesWorld87]

O-line sucks ass yet again, and we start the half with a 3-and-out.

[YDFL Commish]

JT can't even block a CB...pathetic!

[YDFL Commish]

O-line sucks ass yet again, and we start the half with a 3-and-out.

The sack was on JT.

[CletusPyle]

Nice job D....they are playing pretty well on defense!

[CletusPyle]

This announcer is going to need some lotion and tissues before this game is over!

[CletusPyle]

Mitchell growing today....great to see!

[Colts And Orioles]

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Is that the 2nd time this season in which Steichen screwed up and gave the other team points before halftime by calling a time-out ???

I'm not asking about the Richardson INT 2 weeks ago that gave the Texans a touchdown, but was there another game in which he did that ???

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[CletusPyle]

Flacco just needed to get warmed up!:D

[Colts And Orioles]

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Out of the Bills' 20 points so far ......



7 - The Colts' offense

3 - Shane Steichen

10 - The Colts' Defense

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[Spike]

AD Mitchell looking real good today.

[CletusPyle]

Bragged too soon! Fuck you Flacco!

[Spike]

Damn, sometimes Flacco looks like shit, then turns it around and looks pretty damn good.

[Dewey 5]

Holy shit this team sucks

[Kray007]

Are you FKM?

[Spike]

Damn, not Flacco's fault, but another fucking TO.

[WaynesWorld87]

Three Flacco turnovers today. One a pick-six and two in Bills territory that killed promising, likely scoring drives.

[Racehorse]

Damn, not Flacco's fault, but another fucking TO.

And Kenny gets it back for us.

[CletusPyle]

Badson had a lot of room to run!

[Spike]

Kenny Moore is so damn good.

[TheMugwump]

There's Goodson.

[Racehorse]

Badson had a lot of room to run!

No idea why Hull is in the doghouse

[Spike]

Goodson back to his old ways, stone hands.

[Racehorse]

Flacco is determined to throw it to the Bills.

[CletusPyle]

This is a bad football team with a handful of really good players!

[Spike]

Flacco can't help himself. But got lucky there.

[HoosierinFL]

Flacco should have tried to run for it geez. AR gets that one

[Racehorse]

Flacco can't help himself. But got lucky there.

I’m ready for Anthony Richardson.

[YDFL Commish]

Take the muther fukn points you idiot!

[Dewey 5]

Steichen & Ballard both should contact their real estate agent because they are on life support

[Colts And Orioles]

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Josh Allen: ) "Here, Mr. Steichen ...... take 3 points, on me."

Shane Steichen: ) "No, thank you ...... the score was 20-13 at halftime, and I want it to stay that way."

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[CletusPyle]

Defense says fuck you, we got you the ball back and you didn't do shit with it!

[HoosierinFL]

At least use AR uh the red zone, why leave a weapon like that on the bench?

[Colts And Orioles]

This is a bad football team with a handful of really good players !!!





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Or perhaps it's a good football team, minus a top-10 quarterback and with the burden of having a head coach who has no idea of how to call plays and/or manage timeouts.

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[YDFL Commish]

At least use AR uh the red zone, why leave a weapon like that on the bench?

He probably can block better than JT as well.

[Spike]

Take the muther fukn points you idiot!

Shane is really bad at managing a game. Totally clueless sometimes.

[Colts And Orioles]

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Considering the fact that other dipshits gave the Bills 10 points (Flacco's pick-6, and Steichen's moronic time-out call in the final seconds of the first half), the Colts' defense hasn't been that bad so far today ...... in fact, it's once again largely because of them that the Colts are still in this game right now.

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[Colts And Orioles]

Shane is really bad at managing a game ...... he's totally clueless sometimes.





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A head coach who is bad at managing a game is like having a quarterback who is bad at throwing the ball, or a wide receiver who is bad at catching the ball.

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[CletusPyle]

This may be the last game I watch until AR is back in the game!

[Racehorse]

And another INT

[HoosierinFL]

I can’t even track how many INTs that is today, like 60?

[Colts And Orioles]

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Anthony Richardson is certainly learning from the sidelines ...... learning how NOT to play quarterback.

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[Spike]

Flacco another INT. Don't blame Pierce on that one.

Put AR in, I've had enough of this shit.

[Kray007]

Just when I think we’ll pull it out, Joe Flacco pulls us back.

[Colts And Orioles]

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In 3 games earlier this year against the Steelers, the Jaguars, and the Titans, Joe Flacco looked like the Earl Morrall who was the MVP of the 1968 regular season.

In his last 2 games against the Vikings and the Bills, Flacco has looked like the Earl Morrall who threw 3 INT's in the 1968 Super Bowl against the Jets.

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[Racehorse]

Those offsetting penalties hurt us there.

[Racehorse]

Delay of game not called.

[Colts And Orioles]

Those offsetting penalties hurt us there.





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A lot of things have hurt us today.

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[CletusPyle]

I bet AR starts the rest of the season, this team is going nowhere!

[Racehorse]

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A lot of things have hurt us today.

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I can think of 15

[Spike]

Well, unless a miracle happens, that's game.

Bad QB play and bad coaching dooms us again. Same old shit every week.
Let AR play the rest of the year. Only thing that will keep Colt fans interested at all. This organization is really fucked up.

[Dewey 5]

I don’t see how Ballard survives to get another season in Indy

[Chromeburn]

I bet AR starts the rest of the season, this team is going nowhere!

It’s the best move. Never should have sat him.

[Colts And Orioles]

I bet AR starts the rest of the season ...... ) this team is going nowhere !!!





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Unless Richardson somehow pulls a 2015 Cam Newton, and leads the Colts to 7 straight wins to finish the season.

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[HoosierinFL]

I’ve had very little bad to say about Ballard or Steichen all this time but I’ve completely lost confidence in them over the last 2 weeks. They abandoned all their principles for a misguided win now mentality with a team that is clearly not ready to win now.

What they are most at risk now is losing the locker room and ruining AR, and they’ll still miss the playoffs.

[Dam8610]

Three Flacco turnovers today. One a pick-six and two in Bills territory that killed promising, likely scoring drives.

With how bad Flacco has been, they should just play the kid.

[Racehorse]

I can see five straight to end the season, but there’s one right before then that looks nearly impossible.

[Racehorse]

I’ve had very little bad to say about Ballard or Steichen all this time but I’ve completely lost confidence in them over the last 2 weeks. They abandoned all their principles for a misguided win now mentality with a team that is clearly not ready to win now.

What they are most at risk now is losing the locker room and ruining AR, and they’ll still miss the playoffs.

If AR does not start next week, I will be on the fire Shane bandwagon. Ballard, too.

[Colts And Orioles]

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Unless Richardson somehow pulls a 2015 Cam Newton, and leads the Colts to 7 straight wins to finish the season.

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I can see five straight wins to end the season, but there’s one right before then that looks nearly impossible.





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With the exception of the 2020 Philip Rivers season, the Colts have been the most unpredictable team in the NFL since Andrew Luck retired ...... the Colts will probably win the nearly impossible game, and lose the other 6.

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[Racehorse]

I have seen enough. Either go back to AR, or fire everyone.

[ChaosTheory]

If Flacco is going to play like he did earlier in the season, you could justify the move, even if you disagree.

Playing like he has the past two weeks... There's no reason not to have AR in there.

[Dam8610]

If Flacco is going to play like he did earlier in the season, you could justify the move, even if you disagree.

Playing like he has the past two weeks... There's no reason not to have AR in there.

He had one good quarter against the Jaguars. Otherwise, he’s been consistently bad all year.

[albany ed]

Next week, the Colts play the Jets. I've said this many times, my favorite team is the Colts, my second favorite is whoever is playing the Jets. So next week I'll be rooting twice as hard for the Colts. Please, please give AR the start.

[Colts And Orioles]

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(THE COLTS' DEFENSE)



Considering the fact that 10 of the Bills' 30 points were due to a pick-6 by Joe Flacco at the beginning of the game and by Shane Steichen's inexplicable time-out call in the final seconds of the first half which resulted in the Bills tacking on 3 points on the final play, I thought that the Colts' defense wasn't that bad today.

There were times when they were porous and vulnerable, and allowed the Bills to convert on 3rd-and-long and 2nd-and-long.




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Turnover on Downs: lllllltt 1

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TD: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll l. 2

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[Brylok]

At this point, I am assuming it's Jim Irsay's decision not to play AR. Nothing else makes sense, and should be fireable.

[ChaosTheory]

He had one good quarter against the Jaguars. Otherwise, he’s been consistently bad all year.

I mean, he wasn't the ideal franchise QB, but I wouldn't call it bad.

-Pretty good against PIT and we won
-Underwhelming against TEN but led two long drives to take the lead and win
-Lost to JAX but threw for 360yds, 3td, and a 121 rating

Those games made him the "safe" route. These past two weeks have been bad. Three INTs and a fumble is Matt Ryan '22 bad. Question is whether they chalk it up to playing two of the top teams in the NFL or if they think he just shit the bed.

If they choose the latter... Might as well let AR have it. "For the sake of the rest of the team" doesn't apply if the "safe" guy isn't safe.

[Hoopsdoc]

If AR does not start next week, I will be on the fire Shane bandwagon. Ballard, too.

It’s Steichen, not Ballard who is to blame for the current mess. Not that I’m absolving Ballard mind you, but he drafted the quarterback Shane Steichen wanted.

Steichen is the FUCKING IDIOT who somehow got the idea that this team is ready to win and AR was holding us back.

He should be fired for that bullshit alone.

Goddamnit. Anyone could see this coming from 100 miles away.

[omahacolt]

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If you were my professor in college, I would still get a degree ...... I wouldn't be the Valedictorian like I was at Lehman College, but I would still get a degree.

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you are doing bare minimum. I want to fail you but my integrity as a game day thread title grader won't let me.


you need to do better. I believe you can

[Colts And Orioles]

It’s Steichen, not Ballard who is to blame for the current mess. Not that I’m absolving Ballard mind you, but he drafted the quarterback Shane Steichen wanted.

Steichen is the FUCKING IDIOT who somehow got the idea that this team is ready to win, and that AR was holding us back.

He should be fired for that bullshit alone.

Goddamnit ...... anyone could see this coming from 100 miles away.





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This team is 4-6 with mediocre-at-best play from the QB position, and with a head coach who doesn't seem to have a clue in regard to clock-management or play-calling.

If this team had a good quarterback and even a decent head coach, they would probably be at least 6-4 or 7-3.

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[omahacolt]

With how bad Flacco has been, they should just play the kid.
flacco wasn't great in his prime



this has always been the case

[Colts And Orioles]

Flacco wasn't great in his prime.

This has always been the case.





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The one aspect of Flacco's game that has improved since his early days in the NFL is his pocket-presence ...... his pocket-presence was absolutely atrocious when he played for the Ravens, and now it is considerably better.

Other than that, I agree with you, he was never that great in the first place.

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[nate505]

Hey Steichan/Ballard/Irsay,

Fuck you for making the dumbass decision to play Flacco. Especially after the horrible Vikings performance.

Seriously, this decision is dumb beyond words. I cannot believe they're doing it, and most likely will next week given how completely fucking stupid they are.

I hope they clean house. I detest all of them.

[Hoopsdoc]

Hey Steichan/Ballard/Irsay,

Fuck you for making the dumbass decision to play Flacco. Especially after the horrible Vikings performance.

Seriously, this decision is dumb beyond words. I cannot believe they're doing it, and most likely will next week given how completely fucking stupid they are.

I hope they clean house. I detest all of them.

It’s SO FUCKING STUPID. They deluded themselves into believing they were Flacco level play at quarterback from being a contender.

Never mind the fact that Flacco ain’t that damn good in the first place and the HORRIBLE defense would prevent them from winning to many games anyway.

But the worst part, and the really inexcusable part, is that they’re STILL not finding out what they have in AR.

So we’re STILL stuck in QB purgatory and our team STILL sucks.

It’s unfucking believable.

If Irsay wasn’t coked out of his mind all the time, as he clearly is, he’d step in and put a stop to this BULLSHIT.

[IndyNorm]

Considering the fact that 10 of the Bills' 30 points were due to a pick-6 by Joe Flacco at the beginning of the game and by Shane Steichen's inexplicable time-out call in the final seconds of the first half which resulted in the Bills tacking on 3 points on the final play, I thought that the Colts' defense wasn't that bad today.

There were times when they were porous and vulnerable, and allowed the Bills to convert on 3rd-and-long and 2nd-and-long.




Not necessarily defending Steichen b/c he's definitely shit the bed this year, but you're putting way too much blame on him for the Bills FG at the end of the first half. The D did give up a 44 yard pass play on 3rd and 10 a couple of plays after his timeout which got the Bills in said FG range.

[Colts And Orioles]

Not necessarily defending Steichen b/c he's definitely shit the bed this year, but you're putting way too much blame on him for the Bills FG at the end of the first half. The D did give up a 44 yard pass play on 3rd and 10 a couple of plays after his timeout which got the Bills in said FG range.





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The Colts' defense was definitely porous at times today, giving up 2nd-and-long and 3rd-and-longs on several occasions throughout the game.

And I understand what you are saying about the big chunks of yardage that they gave up after the timeout call, but considering what the NFL is today, excellent QB's like Josh Allen need very little time to get themselves into field-goal range right before halftime and/or at the end of a game ...... in the 2021 divisional playoff round, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen scored 3 times in the final 1:02 of regulation (2 TD's and 1 FG) to send the game into overtime.


https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202201230kan.htm


There was no need to tempt fate there, especially with a QB like Allen.

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[Brylok]

I don't know how to post tweets, but I saw one from Kevin Bowen saying that Steichen never considered putting AR in the game. He said, "Until I say otherwise, Joe is the starter".

Maybe he's trying to sack himself?

[nate505]

I don't know how to post tweets, but I saw one from Kevin Bowen saying that Steichen never considered putting AR in the game. He said, "Until I say otherwise, Joe is the starter".

Maybe he's trying to sack himself?

If true, absolute complete idiocy. Dude shouldn't be the head coach of a pee wee league team.

[Discflinger]

Came down from the top that we want the 8th pick rather than the 15th. Since Joe has no allegiance, he's much more apt to take the money.

Since we have no chance, I like it!

[albany ed]

On the plus side. I think the WR corps is solid. The OL is a bit overpaid but still in the bottom of the upper half of the NFL. Taylor when healthy is a top 10 running back. The DL could be better, but they're not the problem. In fact, the entire D has been playing better lately. The biggest reasons for the Colts losing so often is

1. Poor QB play
2. Shitty play calling
3. Terrible in game coaching

I'm hoping they put Richardson back in and let him sink or swim. There's only a small window to when a quality QB can turn this team around. It's time to find out if Richardson can become that QB or do we get another young stud.

[YDFL Commish]

On the plus side. I think the WR corps is solid. The OL is a bit overpaid but still in the bottom of the upper half of the NFL. Taylor when healthy is a top 10 running back. The DL could be better, but they're not the problem. In fact, the entire D has been playing better lately. The biggest reasons for the Colts losing so often is

1. Poor QB play
2. Shitty play calling
3. Terrible in game coaching

I'm hoping they put Richardson back in and let him sink or swim. There's only a small window to when a quality QB can turn this team around. It's time to find out if Richardson can become that QB or do we get another young stud.

I agree with all of the above.

[rm1369]

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There was no need to tempt fate there, especially with a QB like Allen.

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That’s only a small part of it. The bigger part was what the fuck did he think the Colts offense would do if they did get the ball back? The offense had a bad first half and had two turnovers and nearly 2-3 more. Yet it was a close game. If Buffalo was willing to take it into the half you fucking let them. The risk / reward here was way skewed even if they succeeded in getting the ball back. There is a difference between aggressive and stupid, and Steichen is fucking stupid.

[Colts And Orioles]

That’s only a small part of it. The bigger part was what the fuck did he think the Colts' offense would do if they did get the ball back ??? The offense had a bad first half and had two turnovers and nearly 2-3 more ...... yet, it was still a close game. If Buffalo was willing to take it into the half you fucking let them. The risk/reward here was way skewed even if they succeeded in getting the ball back. There is a difference between aggressive and stupid, and Steichen is fucking stupid.





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That's exactly what I said in the "Colts' Defense" thread.

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There were 33 seconds left to play in the 2nd quarter.

It was 3rd and 2, not 3rd and 20.

Even if the Bills had not made the 1st down, the 3rd-down play would have taken at least 5 seconds, and then they would have punted the ball ...... and after the punt and its hang-time, the Colts would have had the ball at about their own 25 or 30 yardline with about 8 or 9 seconds left to play, and no time-outs left.


That time-out was inexplicable and inexcusable, unless Steichen thought that there was a really good chance that the Colts' return-man was going to run the ball all the way back for a touchdown on the punt.

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[Brylok]

[QUOTE=nate505;311408]Hey Steichan/Ballard/Irsay

"Suckass Triumvirate" made me laugh.

[ChaosTheory]

Not necessarily defending Steichen b/c he's definitely shit the bed this year, but you're putting way too much blame on him for the Bills FG at the end of the first half. The D did give up a 44 yard pass play on 3rd and 10 a couple of plays after his timeout which got the Bills in said FG range.

I was responding to C&O in the other thread, but I'll bring it here, too.

That's another part of the calculus I left out. The Bills were 3rd & 2 at their own 27. The risk of giving up points, you would think, is pretty low.

But Josh Allen broke away from Dayo, tap danced away from Latu, and rolling to his right, launched a 44 yard rainbow. He made a fucking great play.

Where's the agency for these players? We always jump straight to Gus or Steichen or Ballard as if this is Madden and they're holding the controller. The players have to make plays and sometimes, the other teams' guy makes a fantastic one.

[ChaosTheory]

That’s only a small part of it. The bigger part was what the fuck did he think the Colts offense would do if they did get the ball back? The offense had a bad first half and had two turnovers and nearly 2-3 more. Yet it was a close game. If Buffalo was willing to take it into the half you fucking let them. The risk / reward here was way skewed even if they succeeded in getting the ball back. There is a difference between aggressive and stupid, and Steichen is fucking stupid.

AR and the O were bad against the Dolphins and got a much needed FG with 0:22 left in the half.

Risk/reward? Like I mentioned, after they converted the 3rd & 2, they're still at their own 27. It's 3rd & 10 at their own 27 with 0:18 left and you think Steichen was too reckless?

Too much "pack-it-up."

[ChaosTheory]

ALSO ...... The Dolphins WERE ALTREADY IN FIELD GOAL RANGE when the Colts called a timeout with 1:21 left.

The Bills, on he other hand, were DEEP IN THEIR OWN TERRIOTORY when the Colts called timeout, AND there was almost a full minute less left to play.


NOBODY questioned the timeout against the Dolphins, because they were already in field-goal range. That timeout was not controversial or questionable at all.


You're hung up on the wrong part about the Dolphins game. It was the aggression I'm referencing.

0:22 seconds left, you wanted them to kneel it and go into halftime licking wounds I presume.

That's fine. I appreciate the aggression, just like I did when Frank was here. Miss me with the coaching scared shit.

Also... you know what was more to blame for BUF getting a FG right before halftime? A fucking 44 yard bomb on 3rd & 10 with 0:18 seconds left.

[Colts And Orioles]

You're hung up on the wrong part about the Dolphins game. It was the aggression I'm referencing.

0:22 seconds left, you wanted them to kneel it and go into halftime licking wounds I presume.

That's fine. I appreciate the aggression, just like I did when Frank was here. Miss me with the coaching scared shit.

Also... you know what was more to blame for BUF getting a FG right before halftime? A fucking 44 yard bomb on 3rd & 10 with 0:18 seconds left.
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I'm not hung up. You referenced the Dolphins game, and I explained, in detail, why that was a totally different situation.

Calling a timeout with 1:21 left when the other team is already in field goal range is aggressive.

Calling a timeout with 33 seconds left when the other team has a 3rd-and 2 from their their own 19-yardline is stupid ...... aggressive and stupid are not mutually inclusive, though they do at times go together.

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[IndyNorm]

I was responding to C&O in the other thread, but I'll bring it here, too.

That's another part of the calculus I left out. The Bills were 3rd & 2 at their own 27. The risk of giving up points, you would think, is pretty low.

But Josh Allen broke away from Dayo, tap danced away from Latu, and rolling to his right, launched a 44 yard rainbow. He made a fucking great play.

Where's the agency for these players? We always jump straight to Gus or Steichen or Ballard as if this is Madden and they're holding the controller. The players have to make plays and sometimes, the other teams' guy makes a fantastic one.

C&O brought it up in his response, but it was actually 3rd and 2 from their 19 when we called a TO. The Bills called a time out after they converted a first down from their 27. Then 2 incompletes. Then the 44 yard bomb on 3rd and 10. So the odds were even more in our favor that even if they converted after our TO that they wouldn't score.

[IndyNorm]

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Calling a timeout with 33 seconds left when the other team has a 3rd-and 2 from their their own 19-yardline is stupid ...... aggressive and stupid are not mutually inclusive, though they do at times go together.

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If the D does their job and stops them then we call another time out and get the ball in good field position w/ ~30 seconds to go. Plenty of time to potentially get in FG range. The TO was maybe a bit on the aggressive side, but it was nowhere near the Caldwell special you guys seem to think it was.

[Colts And Orioles]

If the D does their job and stops them then we call another time out and get the ball in good field position w/ ~30 seconds to go. Plenty of time to potentially get in FG range. The TO was maybe a bit on the aggressive side, but it was nowhere near the Caldwell special you guys seem to think it was.




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There would not have been 30 seconds to go. There were 33 seconds left to play when the timeout was called, and it was 3rd down. The Bills would have run another play, then punted the ball if the Colts' defense had stopped them. By that time, there would have been maybe 10 to 12 seconds left to play if the Colts had called a fair catch, and even less time if they had tried to run the punt back. The Colts then would have had either the ball at about their own 30 yardline with perhaps 10 or 11 seconds to go if they had called for a fair catch on the punt, or maybe the ball at about their own 40 yardline with 5 or 6 seconds left to play if they had tried to run the punt back for some yardage......there was virtually no chance that the Colts were going to get the ball back after the Bills ran 2 more plays (the 3rd down play and the punt), and gotten themselves into field-goal range.


All of that said, the Colts' defense did shit the bed by allowing the 44-yard pass completion 2 plays after the timeout, so the entire fiasco was a joint-effort in incompetence by both the defense and the head coach.

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[ChoppedWood]

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All of that said, the Colts' defense did shit the bed by allowing the 44-yard pass completion 2 plays after the timeout, so the entire fiasco was a joint-effort in incompetence by both the defense and the head coach.

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Another indictment of Steichen. Game after game after game after game has he not seen, across 2 fucking seasons, that Gus Bradley is without question the DC you DO NOT want to put trust in a situation where the ONLY THING you have to guard against is a chunk play? I mean damn Shane, that is YOUR DC, you have seen exactly how he plays, you KNOW he is going to go into a deep shell there with the "keep it in front of you mindset"...

FUCK WHY DO WE DO SUCH STUPID SHIT!

[IndyNorm]

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There would not have been 30 seconds to go. There were 33 seconds left to play when the timeout was called, and it was 3rd down. The Bills would have run another play, then punted the ball if the Colts' defense had stopped them. By that time, there would have been maybe 10 to 12 seconds left to play if the Colts had called a fair catch, and even less time if they had tried to run the punt back. The Colts then would have had either the ball at about their own 30 yardline with perhaps 10 or 11 seconds to go if they had called for a fair catch on the punt, or maybe the ball at about their own 40 yardline with 5 or 6 seconds left to play if they had tried to run the punt back for some yardage......there was virtually no chance that the Colts were going to get the ball back after the Bills ran 2 more plays (the 3rd down play and the punt), and gotten themselves into field-goal range.


All of that said, the Colts' defense did shit the bed by allowing the 44-yard pass completion 2 plays after the timeout, so the entire fiasco was a joint-effort in incompetence by both the defense and the head coach.

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Fair enough on the timing. I think there may have been a little more time left than that, but barring a big punt return or block/shanked punt you're probably right that we wouldn't have been able to get into FG position.

If we are going to lay blame though then it should be much more on the D than the TO call. Something like 90/10.

[ChaosTheory]

C&O brought it up in his response, but it was actually 3rd and 2 from their 19 when we called a TO. The Bills called a time out after they converted a first down from their 27. Then 2 incompletes. Then the 44 yard bomb on 3rd and 10. So the odds were even more in our favor that even if they converted after our TO that they wouldn't score.

You're right, the second 3rd down was at the 27. I meant the first 3rd down at the 19.

https://nfl-video.com/buffalo-bills-vs-indianapolis-colts-full-game-replay-nov-10-2024-nfl-week-10

You can watch the replay at 1:06:17... The Colts called a TO with :37 left. They initially ran the clock down to :33, but then brought back to :37 for the 3rd and 2 from the 19 yard line.

On the play, Allen hits the RB in the hands at :34 and Moore chases him down to the sideline for the tackle, and BUF calls TO at :30.

If they defended that pass or he dropped it, there's :33 seconds left and you still have 2 TO's. Even if they ran the ball and we stopped it, it would be a similar amount of time left, but they'd have to use a TO. They'd still have roughly :32 or :33 seconds and one TO.

A punt and a fair catch takes like 7 seconds. BUF's kicker averages 48, let's say he kicks it 50...

We'd have the ball at our 31 yard line with about 25 seconds + 1 or maybe even 2 TO's. We would need roughly 27 yards to get into Gay's range. Absolutely doable.

That's the biggest part, but that's not even the full calculus. Colts are one of 4 teams in the NFL to block a punt in each of the past two season. Then there's the chance for a significant punt return on top of that. Those potential scenarios likely play some role in the decision.

At the very worst, if none of that ^^ has a chance because we don't stop them... the HC should be able to trust that the defense won't give up a 44 yard bomb on 3rd and 10 with :08 on the fucking clock.

[Colts And Orioles]

I bet AR starts the rest of the season ...... ) this team is going nowhere !!!








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Unless Richardson somehow pulls a 2015 Cam Newton, and leads the Colts to 7 straight wins to finish the season.

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Perhaps a more apt comparison would be when a young rookie by the name of ) Vince Young ) led a Tennessee Titans team to 6 straight wins and turned a disastrous 2-7 season into a team on the verge of a playoff berth with a record of 8-7 heading into the final game of the season.



Week 11 Nov 19 lllt W lllllll 31-13 llllll. at l) Philadelphia Eagles

Week 12 Nov 26 llllllW lllllll 24-21 lllllll vs l) New York Giants

Week 13 Dec 3 lllllll W lllllll 20-17 lllllll vs lll Indianapolis Colts

Week 14 Dec 10 lllll W lllllll 26-20 lllllll at lll Houston Texans (OT)

Week 15 Dec 17 lllll W lllllll 24-17 lllllll vs lll Jacksonville Jaguars

Week 16 Dec 24 lllll W lllllll 30-29 llllllt at llt Buffalo Bills


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/results.nsf/Teams/2006-ten

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[HoosierinFL]

Perhaps a more apt comparison would be when a young rookie by the name of ) Vince Young ) led a Tennessee Titans team to 6 straight wins and turned a disastrous 2-7 season into a team on the verge of a playoff berth with a record of 8-7 heading into the final game of the season.



Ah yes, and then he went on to be the legendary Vince Young

[Colts And Orioles]

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Perhaps a more apt comparison would be when a young rookie by the name of ) Vince Young ) led a Tennessee Titans team to 6 straight wins and turned a disastrous 2-7 season into a team on the verge of a playoff berth with a record of 8-7 heading into the final game of the season.



Week 11 Nov 19 lllt W lllllll 31-13 llllll. at l) Philadelphia Eagles

Week 12 Nov 26 llllllW lllllll 24-21 lllllll vs l) New York Giants

Week 13 Dec 3 lllllll W lllllll 20-17 lllllll vs lll Indianapolis Colts

Week 14 Dec 10 lllll W lllllll 26-20 lllllll at lll Houston Texans (OT)

Week 15 Dec 17 lllll W lllllll 24-17 lllllll vs lll Jacksonville Jaguars

Week 16 Dec 24 lllll W lllllll 30-29 llllllt at llt Buffalo Bills


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/results.nsf/Teams/2006-ten

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Ah yes, and then he went on to be the legendary Vince Young.





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And right now, we have no idea as to whether or not Anthony Richardson will have a "legendary" career, either ...... but we do know that it is possible for a talented, rookie quarterback to lead a team that had a disastrous start to a season to the brink of a playoff berth.

I'm not asserting that Richardson will do that, but there is a fairly recent precedent of it happening.

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[YDFL Commish]

How many times was Bert Jones benched before he became the permanent Colts starting QB? Answer: Many.

How many times was Terry Bradshaw benched before he became the Steelers permanent starting QB? Answer: Even more than Jones.

It took PM 9 years to win a Super Bowl. I bitched about him as the entire Colts fan base bitched about him.

How about Jim Plunkett or John Elway. They both won two Super Bowls and had to basically wait their entire careers to do it.

I hate to quote Ballard, but I hate instant coffee!

[ChoppedWood]

How many times was Bert Jones benched before he became the permanent Colts starting QB? Answer: Many.

How many times was Terry Bradshaw benched before he became the Steelers permanent starting QB? Answer: Even more than Jones.

It took PM 9 years to win a Super Bowl. I bitched about him as the entire Colts fan base bitched about him.

How about Jim Plunkett or John Elway. They both won two Super Bowls and had to basically wait their entire careers to do it.

I hate to quote Ballard, but I hate instant coffee!

The Plunkett story, never gets near enough oxygen, just incredible resilience.

[albany ed]

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And right now, we have no idea as to whether or not Anthony Richardson will have a "legendary" career, either ...... but we do know that it is possible for a talented, rookie quarterback to lead a team that had a disastrous start to a season to the brink of a playoff berth.

I'm not asserting that Richardson will do that, but there is a fairly recent precedent of it happening.

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Anthony Richardson

Talented? Yes
Quarterback? Yes
Talented Quarterback? Not yet anyway

I want to see more of this man, and see if he can develop into a Talented Quarterback. At 4 and 6, we've no shot for the playoffs without him, maybe, just maybe we can find out if he can be the future or just a physically talented bust.