OFFICIAL GAME THREAD: Win the Rematch, Claim 1st Place (vs. TEXANS, 10/27)

[ChoppedWood]

2nd and 19

So, this is absolutely SOFTEY SOFTEY for Gus, easy underneath for at last 14 here- book it!

[ChoppedWood]

2nd and 19

So, this is absolutely SOFTEY SOFTEY for Gus, easy underneath for at last 14 here- book it!

Fucking disgusting- DISGUSTING!

[TheMugwump]

2nd and 19

So, this is absolutely SOFTEY SOFTEY for Gus, easy underneath for at last 14 here- book it!

You seriously underestimate how bad this defense is. And Gus.

[Spike]

Only a Gus Bradley defense can fuck up a 2nd and 19 completion for a first down. Absolutely disgusting BS.

[Racehorse]

Time to force a turnover. We need one for a change.

[Butter]

Kenny blew up that screen

[ChoppedWood]

Only a Gus Bradley defense can fuck up a 2nd and 19 completion for a first down. Absolutely disgusting BS.

He makes me fucking hate watching this team. If you are the opposing QB you have to just be salivating to line up against this trash.

Ughhh looked like Joe was getting up and AR was staying on the bench right there...

[CletusPyle]

He makes me fucking hate watching this team. If you are the opposing QB you have to just be salivating to line up against this trash.

Ughhh looked like Joe was getting up and AR was staying on the bench right there...

Shane ain't playin'!

I guess he is!

[ChoppedWood]

Wow, thought the change was being made...

[BCN#1]

Hate to say it but AR in not in a groove today and given thre stakes, give Joe a shot to hopefully this out of our asses.

[Butter]

Hate to say it but AR in not in a groove today and given thre stakes, give Joe a shot to hopefully this out of our asses.

I am 100% with you. Hope I am wrong I guess

[CletusPyle]

Wow, thought the change was being made...

May be out of Shane's hands?

[TheMugwump]

Finally an open receiver without a penalty.

[Butter]

I am liking seeing a few short passes connecting.

[Butter]

I sometimes feel like it is how I used to play Madden all verts all the time

[Racehorse]

Pittman is struggling today

[Butter]

Dammit Goodson!

[nate505]

Can we just get 4th quarter Richardson for the whole game?

[Racehorse]

Goodson admin against Houston, smh

[WaynesWorld87]

Gotta fucking catch that!

[Butter]

Josh Downs is hands down our best WR.

[HoosierinFL]

Wow they had that footage of the Goodson drop from last year ready to roll

[Butter]

I suspect that will be on the 1 inch line.

[YDFL Commish]

Hate to say it but AR in not in a groove today and given thre stakes, give Joe a shot to hopefully this out of our asses.

No, Shane is calling a bad game and not playing to our players strengths.

[TheMugwump]

Alright, I'll say it. Richardson has looked a LOT better in the second half. Four drops on the day again will hurt his completion pct., but he has been improving and has looked better overall today.

[ChoppedWood]

JT meet Nelson's fucking huge ass!

[BCN#1]

Thank Gawd!!! Downs and I eat crow on AR getting pulled as long as the review stands.:p

[Colts And Orioles]

I suspect that will be on the 1 inch line.





o

If so, that will be more time for the Colts' defense to rest ...... presuming that the offense punches it into the end-zone on one of their next 3 plays.

o

[WaynesWorld87]

Ok, by my count AR was 4/7 on that drive with a TD, and should've been 4/6 with a TD if Goodson hadn't let the previous pass slip right through his hands. I was able to only follow the game via gamecast up until the 4th quarter, so my question is this. How/why can AR be 5/19 entering that drive and all of a sudden turn it on and complete almost the same number of passes on one drive as he had the rest of the entire game?

Is it 100% accuracy issues? Play calling? Receiver issues? I'm just having a hard time following/understanding.

[TheMugwump]

No, Shane is calling a bad game and not playing to our players strengths.

This. Overall, this has been AR's best game of the year for accuracy, but he hasn't been used correctly for the most part.

[Butter]

No, Shane is calling a bad game and not playing to our players strengths.

No, two things can be true at the sametime.

[Racehorse]

Ok, by my count AR was 4/7 on that drive with a TD, and should've been 4/6 with a TD if Goodson hadn't let the previous pass slip right through his hands. I was able to only follow the game via gamecast up until the 4th quarter, so my question is this. How/why can AR be 5/19 entering that drive and all of a sudden turn it on and complete almost the same number of passes on one drive as he had the rest of the entire game?

Is it 100% accuracy issues? Play calling? Receiver issues? I'm just having a hard time following/understanding.

It certainly is baffling.

[nate505]

Thank god.

Shut up about the extra time. It's not an issue now.

[Butter]

Come on QB sneak, not some shotgun bullshit.

[Spike]

AR is looking much better this half.

[YDFL Commish]

Defense needs to win the game with T/O.

[ChaosTheory]

Ok, by my count AR was 4/7 on that drive with a TD, and should've been 4/6 with a TD if Goodson hadn't let the previous pass slip right through his hands. I was able to only follow the game via gamecast up until the 4th quarter, so my question is this. How/why can AR be 5/19 entering that drive and all of a sudden turn it on and complete almost the same number of passes on one drive as he had the rest of the entire game?

Is it 100% accuracy issues? Play calling? Receiver issues? I'm just having a hard time following/understanding.


Accurate by NFL standards is precise placement for your receivers. Not just getting it to them where they could catch it against air.

Several pass breakups showed the thin margin between a catch and an incompletion.

[Dewey 5]

Pinning your hopes on a Gus Bradley defense is never a good thing

[ChoppedWood]

Defense needs to win the game with T/O.

Or ya know, let them keep it in front of them, be careful, let them chew some clock, maybe get a FG even with :02 left.

I wouldn't so much as wipe my ass with Gus Bradley- would be a waste of my own waste!

[Spike]

Why are we not playing up, giving up too much ground on all those passes. Oh yeah, Gus fucking Bradley is our DC.

[nate505]

Great, Mixon is imposing his will now.

[Colts And Orioles]

o


If the defense give up a field goal on this drive, the Colts can take the lead with a touchdown and an extra point.

o

[Butter]

The D is gassed

[nate505]

Damnit Cross

[ChoppedWood]

the d is ass

100%

[Butter]

Lol WTF was Dell doing

[TheMugwump]

The D is gassed

They shouldn't be though. They had almost 15-20 minutes of real time to rest between drives.

[WaynesWorld87]

And to no one's surprise, the Texans are responding by easily moving the ball into Colts territory. Even spotted us 5 yards by starting the drive with an illegal formation for shits and giggles before toying with our defense.

[Butter]

ANd they step on thier dicks again.

[Butter]

A turnover is our best hope

[nate505]

Absolute bullshit. Fuck you refs.

[ChoppedWood]

Wow, Roger personally called that motherfucker in from his beach chair in Bali.

[CletusPyle]

The NFL hates the Colts!

[nate505]

Fuck that, that can be called on most plays, and the flag was super late.

[Butter]

The fix is in

[Spike]

Late flag, BS call by the refs right there. Sorry bastards.

[Butter]

That same shit has gone on all game, such BS

[WaynesWorld87]

Fuck that horseshit. What a terrible call.

[Racehorse]

Garbage bail out by the refs

[WaynesWorld87]

And one play later Mixon rips off a long run inside the 5 yard line.

[Colts And Orioles]

o


The Colts' defense has played well today ....... the offense gave away 7 points, and the refs just gift-wrapped the Texans a crucial 1st down.

o

[CletusPyle]

Refs owe us a holding call here!

[Butter]

I have doubts this D can hold them to a FG with the Refs on their side

[nate505]

No fucking way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Spike]

Well, we still can't stop the run worth a shit. Ballard has done a very poor job of building this team. Time for a change. Expedite Ballard and Bradley, and let Steichen know that he's on a short fucking leash now.

[nate505]

If this stands....this better stand!

[Butter]

OK then.

[WaynesWorld87]

Did that really just fucking happen!?!?! What a fucking play!!!

[nate505]

Damn, it may come back.

Still a great outcome.

[Butter]

That should not be down, bad rule

[WaynesWorld87]

Oh crap, did Mixon "tackle" him after the strip and recover? Might get called back.

[ChoppedWood]

Time for Steichen to earn his check- put together a drive to win this fucking huge game.

[nate505]

That's probably a good call. It sucks, but a tackle can even be as lame as that.

[CletusPyle]

Shades of the Bus and Pittsburgh only this time Harper didn't get stabbed by his wife....but then the refs came and fixed it for them!

[YDFL Commish]

Irsay is hated by the NFL!

[WaynesWorld87]

Yeah, that's coming back. Still our ball, but now we gotta go 90 yards with AR as our QB to win the game.

[BCN#1]

Delay in my feed but WTF???? Go Dayo!

[TheMugwump]

He was thrown down, but the Colts have the ball.

[Colts And Orioles]

o


The Colts' defense has played well today ....... the offense gave away 7 points, and the refs just gift-wrapped the Texans a crucial 1st down.

o
o


(THE COLTS' DEFENSE)



Possessions: lllllllllllllllllllllllll 11

Punts: lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllt 5

Fumble: lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.. 1

TD: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll l. 2 ) (1 Off of a turnover deep in Colts territory)

FG: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lt 3

o

[Butter]

It is in the hand of the Offense. Oh fuck

[nate505]

Sheesh, Nelson is just a momentum killer today.

[Dewey 5]

Why are they so undisciplined

[CletusPyle]

That's probably a good call. It sucks, but a tackle can even be as lame as that.

Here's the question, he was knocked down before he had possession, then he picked up the ball, I think these dumbasses got it wrong!

[ChoppedWood]

Why are we just having him stand back there in the pocket- get him in the edge and let him make a damn decision!

[Butter]

Fuck Nelson, overpaid asshat

[nate505]

What an absolute complete disaster of a drive.

[Dewey 5]

Well so much for that

[Spike]

Quenton Nelson is a dumb fuck, and our oline sucks.

[Butter]

I wish we would move AR around more Rollouts and what not.

[nate505]

Rainmann got absolutely worked on that play.

[ChoppedWood]

Steichen really needs to be re-evaluated, dude has been atrocious today, just awful. Rainnman by far worst game of his career too.

[Butter]

The OL collapsed at the worst time

[CletusPyle]

What an absolute complete disaster of a drive.

I think almost any team in the league could have done better!

[WaynesWorld87]

And of course this drive has been a complete and utter disaster. Another close-but-no-cigar loss to the Texans.

[Spike]

This oline is total garbage. Plain ass garage.

[TheMugwump]

Offensive line is good my ass. They are nearly as bad as Gus.

[ChoppedWood]

AR on the edge, is always a threat, nope, gonna have him stand back there and pretend to be Tom Brady.

Fuck you Steichen, fuck you!

[CletusPyle]

They got DeMeco we got Shane....they got Stroud we got AR, that is the difference!

[Spike]

This loss is on Bradley, Steichen and the fucking Oline. Oh yeah, not leaving Ballard out, he sucks too.

[CletusPyle]

We still have a chance....what am I saying?:eek:

[CletusPyle]

This ref is a piece of shit!

[bigalbert]

How long do we keep saying AR needs more time?
Another couple seasons?

[YDFL Commish]

Why is Mallory out there?

[Butter]

SO many drops

[CletusPyle]

No PI?

[Butter]

Why are we throwing to the middle of the field even?

[nate505]

That feels like the most possible way this game could have ended.

[ChaosTheory]

Perfect example of the accuracy.

[WaynesWorld87]

Two crucial drops and a missed PI by the refs on that drive. Definitely should've been in FG range.

[CletusPyle]

Tip drill!

[Colts And Orioles]

Why are we throwing to the middle of the field even ???





o


Because there is almost no way that the Texans will give them a sideline pass completion for significant yardage.

Their only chance is a pass over the middle for some yardage, a spike, and a Hail Mary.

o

[nate505]

Blah.

Another one score loss.

[CletusPyle]

I am officially off the AR bandwagon....sorry I think the kid is a bust!

[Butter]

I am officially off the AR bandwagon....sorry I think the kid is a bust!

It does not feel like he is progressing.

[Racehorse]

Three man rush generates a sack, smh

[Colts And Orioles]

This loss is on Bradley, Steichen and the fucking Oline. Oh yeah, not leaving Ballard out, he sucks too.





o


This loss is much more on the offense than the defense.

The defense got 7 stops today (6 punts and 1 fumble), and 7 of the Texans' 23 points were given away by the offense in the final seconds of the 1st half.

o

[HoosierinFL]

How do we play so badly, just look awful and inept for large stretches and somehow only lose by 3?

[WaynesWorld87]

And we didn't get off a pass. Because...of course we didn't. That play epitomized the shittiness of this offensive line and AR at the same time.

[njcoltfan]

How inept..............can't even get off a " Hail Mary "

[ChoppedWood]

There is not a single person within this whole organization that doesn't hold blame for this one. About as incompetent from top to bottom that an NFL organization could possibly be.

There are a lot of people that either shouldn't be playing or shouldn't be coaching on this current version of the franchise.

I contend Irsay is out of the discussion for various reasons, including I don't think he's even part of it anymore.

The rot starts at the top with Ballard. Until that fucking POS is gone, this franchise is not going to achieve anything.

[BCN#1]

Another episode of silly suckatility with plenty of blame to go around. :mad:

[Colts And Orioles]

o


(THE COLTS' DEFENSE)



I thought that the Colts' defense played pretty well today ....... the offense gave away 7 points in the final seconds of the 1st half, and they forced a huge fumble late in the 4th quarter after the refs gift-wrapped the Texans a crucial 1st down deep in Colts territory.



Possessions: lllllllllllllllllllllllll 12

Punts: lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllt 6

Fumble: lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.. 1

TD: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll ., 2 ) (1 Off of a turnover deep in Colts territory)

FG: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll l) 3

o

[njcoltfan]

It does not feel like he is progressing.
I'm starting to fear that he's not the answer !!! I already think that Steachen isn't,

[ChaosTheory]

There is not a single person within this whole organization that doesn't hold blame for this one. About as incompetent from top to bottom that an NFL organization could possibly be.

There are a lot of people that either shouldn't be playing or shouldn't be coaching on this current version of the franchise.

I contend Irsay is out of the discussion for various reasons, including I don't think he's even part of it anymore.

The rot starts at the top with Ballard. Until that fucking POS is gone, this franchise is not going to achieve anything.

Dude, the most top-to-bottom incompetent you can be? We just lost by three with our QB going 10/32.

That's your answer. Your QB was 10/32.

[Colts And Orioles]

Dude, the most top-to-bottom incompetent you can be? ??? We just lost by three with our QB going 10/32.

That's your answer ...... your QB was 10/32.





o


And he gave away 7 of the Texans' 23 points with an incredibly stupid INT in the final seconds of the 1st half.

Regardless of whatever play that Steichen called, Richardson is the player on the field ...... he needs to know that in that situation you simply hang onto the ball and get tackled in-bounds to force the Texans to use their final time-out, punt the ball, and go into halftime tied at 10-10.

o

[ChoppedWood]

Dude, the most top-to-bottom incompetent you can be? We just lost by three with our QB going 10/32.

That's your answer. Your QB was 10/32.

Dude, that shit to end the half, that's coaching at a pee wee level! A fucking beer belly dad with his 3rd grade 3 and 7 pups team, runs the ball there and goes into the locker room either tied or MAYBE down 3, maybe.

The fucking drive AFTER the fumble, seriously, is Steichen too fucking stupid to see what he has under center????

The all-world, possible all-universe LG has three---- THREE FUCKING false starts???

No, this isn't a 3 point loss on 10/32 passer, this is a loss by an organization that is rudderless and stunted with a ton of lower end talented players in big positions. A better coach, a smarter team, a marginally more talented team, we win that by double digits!

[ChoppedWood]

Dude, that shit to end the half, that's coaching at a pee wee level! A fucking beer belly dad with his 3rd grade 3 and 7 pups team, runs the ball there and goes into the locker room either tied or MAYBE down 3, maybe.

The fucking drive AFTER the fumble, seriously, is Steichen too fucking stupid to see what he has under center????

The all-world, possible all-universe LG has three---- THREE FUCKING false starts???

No, this isn't a 3 point loss on 10/32 passer, this is a loss by an organization that is rudderless and stunted with a ton of lower end talented players in big positions. A better coach, a smarter team, a marginally more talented team, we win that by double digits!

Let me back up even further. A better, more prepared team, they don't fucking fair catch the ball at the five with just a fraction of time left in the half. If they do, then they run it- which we did, and then they run it again, and then if they still don't have a first down, they run it again.


Hey, maybe next week we'll sit JT and have Goodson start, and we will run 10 fucking pass plays to him.

This team is just bad. Stupid fucking players and remarkably stupid fucking coach.

[Indystu2]

I was away from my PC during the game. So this is my only post.

It's time to bench AR. That is all.

[ChoppedWood]

I guess one saving grace, essentially the entire AFC that matters, lost in the early games. We're basically no worse off than we were going into today.

Though given the complete incompetence, I would be stunned if we win any of the next 4 games so I don't think it will matter.

[ChoppedWood]

I was away from my PC during the game. So this is my only post.

It's time to bench AR. That is all.

No, he had a great stretch where he showed what is necessary to do this, is in the bag.

But man you cannot have all these fucking drops, you can't have a supposed HOF guard constantly drawing flags, you can't make atrocious play calls, you can't fucking expect all this negative shit to surround a guy who is so damn raw, and expect to win. You just can't. Steichen always talks "we'll get that cleaned up"... seems to be a bunch of fucking lip service to me, I see the same shit over and over from this team.

[Hoopsdoc]

I was away from my PC during the game. So this is my only post.

It's time to bench AR. That is all.

Nonsense. We lost by 3 with AR playing like dogshit.

The entire offense is COMPLETELY different with Flacco under center.

We just need AR to play better. Which we know he’s capable of.

These are the growing pains we should have gone through last year.

[Chromeburn]

I'm starting to fear that he's not the answer !!! I already think that Steachen isn't,

I don’t understand what this offense is. You can’t just run 40 yard pass plays every down. Then the B penalties put them in 3rd and long. JT had over 5 a carry, run him. Help your young QB.

The end of the first half was horrible coaching, why put him in that situation. You have to manage him, he isnt a 6 year vet.

[Dewey 5]

Same old thing upcoming. Getting close just need to clean things up. Need to coach better blah blah blah. Fire everyone & start over. Again

[IndyNorm]

I'm starting to fear that he's not the answer !!! I already think that Steachen isn't,

Unfortunately it's looking like that for AR. 2 for fucking 15 in the first half. What the total fuck was that? And AR just keeps getting worse. Can't wait to see what he does next week :cool:.

Steichen might be ok if he had a QB who was accurate at all, but he definitely looks clueless on helping AR out. 3rd and 3 from your own ~10. AR has gone 2/14 in the first half and just threw a pass that should have been picked. So he calls up empty backfield w/ a timing route over the middle. Absolutely horrible play calling.

[Hoopsdoc]

Same old thing upcoming. Getting close just need to clean things up. Need to coach better blah blah blah. Fire everyone & start over. Again

Well, we’ve got At Minnesota and Buffalo in the next two weeks so 4-6 is almost certainly what we’ll be.

[Thorgrim]

Disappointed.


Nothing else to say.

[IndyNorm]

Dude, the most top-to-bottom incompetent you can be? We just lost by three with our QB going 10/32.

That's your answer. Your QB was 10/32.

Our OL was shit today too. When they weren't false starting they were getting their asses handed to them by Anderson, Hunter, etc., etc., etc.

[Colts And Orioles]

Well, we’ve got @ Minnesota and @ Buffalo in the next 2 weeks, so a 4-6 record is almost certainly what we'll have.





o


The Ravens looked unbeatable over their last 5 games, and they lost to the Browns today.

Most Colts fans didn't think that the Colts had a chance to beat the previously-undefeated Steelers last month, but they did.


I wouldn't be so quick to assume losses in future games because the other team is favored.

o

[ChoppedWood]

JT had over 5 a carry, run him. Help your young QB.


^^^^
THIS

Steichen is weird. He seems, for whatever reason, to be just fine having 2 incompletions and 3rd and 10 and in a damn near impossible position to convert. But he seems to HATE the concept of running twice and having 3rd and 4 which is converted at a much more frequent rate because of how many options are available on the play sheet at that point.

The one thing we have all seen with JT- he is a trust the process back. He will have 6-8-10 straight runs for 1,2,3 yards, and then he will fucking house it. Then, he is a fucking monster just gobbling up 12-20 yarders after that.

Steichen just cannot seem to allow that pattern with JT for whatever the fuck the reason is.

Starting to think he is way too similar to Reich in that he wants have a lot of the attention focused on him, how inventive, how creative he is vs just doing the right things to win fucking games!

[IndyNorm]

Nonsense. We lost by 3 with AR playing like dogshit.

The entire offense is COMPLETELY different with Flacco under center.

We just need AR to play better. Which we know he’s capable of.

These are the growing pains we should have gone through last year.

The problem is AR hasn't shown any improvement at all and actually just keeps getting worse. Seems like it might be best to pivot and try to develop him the old fashioned way b/c throwing him out and and sticking w/ him isn't working.

[albany ed]

Unfortunately it's looking like that for AR. 2 for fucking 15 in the first half. What the total fuck was that? And AR just keeps getting worse. Can't wait to see what he does next week :cool:.

Steichen might be ok if he had a QB who was accurate at all, but he definitely looks clueless on helping AR out. 3rd and 3 from your own ~10. AR has gone 2/14 in the first half and just threw a pass that should have been picked. So he calls up empty backfield w/ a timing route over the middle. Absolutely horrible play calling.

As poorly as AR played, I blame the play calling to close out the 1st half for this loss. 59 seconds left, you're on the 5 yard line, (90fucking5 yards away) scheduled to start the 2nd half getting the ball and you don't just run, run, run? This idiotic play calling cost the Colts 7 points. Your QB is passing like shit and you decide he might pull off a drive of at least 60 yards so you can try a FG? There's still hope AR can overcome his youthful ignorance, but whoever called the plays down the 1st half stretch should have is balls removed.

[Kray007]

Yeah, Richardson was 10 of 32, but he wasn’t wildly off the mark. A lot of his passes were either knocked down by a DB or dropped. On others, the pass was on the mark, but coverage was tight. I only counted a few throws that were badly throw, but that’s par for the course in the NFL.

Today, I hardly ever saw a pass that sailed high over the receivers head or was way off target, long or short. In other words, I saw progress.

[ChaosTheory]

Our OL was shit today too. When they weren't false starting they were getting their asses handed to them by Anderson, Hunter, etc., etc., etc.

I have to rewatch OL to see for sure how everyone did, but I'm not claiming they played great or handwaving Nelson's penalties.

But bringing that up is like having a burning house and pointing out the lawn needs to be mowed.

2/15 in the first half, 8/17 (47%) being the good half... Everything looks worse with that performance.

And still it was a 3-point loss, not 52-14 like the Lions did to the Titans.

[IndyNorm]

As poorly as AR played, I blame the play calling to close out the 1st half for this loss. 59 seconds left, you're on the 5 yard line, (90fucking5 yards away) scheduled to start the 2nd half getting the ball and you don't just run, run, run? This idiotic play calling cost the Colts 7 points. Your QB is passing like shit and you decide he might pull off a drive of at least 60 yards so you can try a FG? There's still hope AR can overcome his youthful ignorance, but whoever called the plays down the 1st half stretch should have is balls removed.

No doubt. Like I said, horrible play calling. Make no mistake Steichen is handcuffed w/ horrible QB play right now, but he's definitely not doing AR any favors w/ his play calling. As others stated earlier in the thread (and plenty of other times) Steichen needs to play call to AR's strengths rather than keep trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

[Spike]

Yeah, Richardson was 10 of 32, but he wasn’t wildly off the mark. A lot of his passes were either knocked down by a DB or dropped. On others, the pass was on the mark, but coverage was tight. I only counted a few throws that were badly throw, but that’s par for the course in the NFL.

Today, I hardly ever saw a pass that sailed high over the receivers head or was way off target, long or short. In other words, I saw progress.

I blame the offensive line and Steichen the most. This overpaid OLine didn't pass block worth a shit all day and Q with a shitload of penalties. Steichen's ignoramus play calling at the end of the 1st half in inexcusable. Knowing only bad things could happen and it did. It was just unfucking unbelievably stupid.

[IndyNorm]

I have to rewatch OL to see for sure how everyone did, but I'm not claiming they played great or handwaving Nelson's penalties.

But bringing that up is like having a burning house and pointing out the lawn needs to be mowed.

2/15 in the first half, 8/17 (47%) being the good half... Everything looks worse with that performance.

And still it was a 3-point loss, not 52-14 like the Lions did to the Titans.

I would say it's more like saying your garage is on fire too. Granted the OL has played well this year, but they definitely didn't today. Our 3 and out after Dayo's fumble was all b/c of the OL, and AR couldn't even get off a hail mary at the end b/c of the DL pressure. And a lot of AR's throws in the 2nd half were off b/c of DL pressure. Although as bad as he was today those throws may have been off anyway.

[Dewey 5]

Looking like Steichen is way over his head.

[CletusPyle]

^^^^
THIS

Steichen is weird. He seems, for whatever reason, to be just fine having 2 incompletions and 3rd and 10 and in a damn near impossible position to convert. But he seems to HATE the concept of running twice and having 3rd and 4 which is converted at a much more frequent rate because of how many options are available on the play sheet at that point.

The one thing we have all seen with JT- he is a trust the process back. He will have 6-8-10 straight runs for 1,2,3 yards, and then he will fucking house it. Then, he is a fucking monster just gobbling up 12-20 yarders after that.

Steichen just cannot seem to allow that pattern with JT for whatever the fuck the reason is.

Starting to think he is way too similar to Reich in that he wants have a lot of the attention focused on him, how inventive, how creative he is vs just doing the right things to win fucking games!

I made this last season just trying to be funny, but maybe it was more accurate than I thought, especially in the red zone, it's almost like Reich is still calling the plays!

https://images2.imgbox.com/62/51/rwSO81Ea_o.gif

[CletusPyle]

I am sick of the Colts losing to the Texans and the Jaguars....it's like we are the Washington Generals for these teams, I keep waiting for Trevor Lawrence or CJ Stroud to run over to Steichen and hit him in the face with a whipped cream pie!

[Colts And Orioles]

I am sick of the Colts losing ......





o


You had me at "losing."

o

[Lov2fish]

It's mind numbing watching all the people apologize for Richardson sucking. Y'all look for one little moment to say he is progressing. He was a freak crossing route screw up from being like 1-12 in the first half. He had a couple dropped passes that should have been caught, but he had a lot more absolute horrible QB play. He is a freak of nature athletically, but has no idea how to be a professional QB. He just doesn't get it, and he never will. The same knocks in he had in high school and college, they followed him to the pro's. They are never going to coach him up. He is a bust and I will guarantee I am right. We wasted a draft pick that could have been used on defense. This team is so poorly constructed.

[TheMugwump]

Yeah, Richardson was 10 of 32, but he wasn’t wildly off the mark. A lot of his passes were either knocked down by a DB or dropped. On others, the pass was on the mark, but coverage was tight. I only counted a few throws that were badly throw, but that’s par for the course in the NFL.

Today, I hardly ever saw a pass that sailed high over the receivers head or was way off target, long or short. In other words, I saw progress.

Thank you. This was his best game of the season, from an accuracy standpoint.

Not so on decision making.

[YDFL Commish]

It's mind numbing watching all the people apologize for Richardson sucking. Y'all look for one little moment to say he is progressing. He was a freak crossing route screw up from being like 1-12 in the first half. He had a couple dropped passes that should have been caught, but he had a lot more absolute horrible QB play. He is a freak of nature athletically, but has no idea how to be a professional QB. He just doesn't get it, and he never will. The same knocks in he had in high school and college, they followed him to the pro's. They are never going to coach him up. He is a bust and I will guarantee I am right. We wasted a draft pick that could have been used on defense. This team is so poorly constructed.

This is probably the same ting that was being said o Bert Jones in '73 and '74. In '75 he was a division champ and in '76 the Offensive player of the year and the NFL MVP.

[Racehorse]

Yeah, Richardson was 10 of 32, but he wasn’t wildly off the mark. A lot of his passes were either knocked down by a DB or dropped. On others, the pass was on the mark, but coverage was tight. I only counted a few throws that were badly throw, but that’s par for the course in the NFL.

Today, I hardly ever saw a pass that sailed high over the receivers head or was way off target, long or short. In other words, I saw progress.

That is what I saw, too. His accuracy is improving, even if the completion percentage is not.

[YDFL Commish]

That is what I saw, too. His accuracy is improving, even if the completion percentage is not.

Exactly...forget the stats and trust your eyes.

[ChoppedWood]

Exactly...forget the stats and trust your eyes.

I fully agree. I felt like today was his best passing day as a Colt. There were not the wildly inaccurate high balls we've seen so much of. There were some dimes out there- in particular the passes to Goodson and Downs- those were GREAT passes.

Decision making, obviously that INT was a terrible decision. Even there though, I remain enraged that he was put in that position to begin with, I am shocked Steichen could be THAT bad at play calling. One of the dumbest fucking approaches I can recall.

I see enough to feel like he could be the guy. I don't think he's gonna be the guy if we continue to do this shit where we try to force him to be this methodical pocket passer vs the guy we drafted for the purpose of NOT BEING the traditional pocket QB. The drive after the fumble being the primary example. You just got a gift, you have momentum, you have seen AR do great work on the edges, but you just stand him up in the pocket like some stoic super hero QB of lore. WTF?

[Hoopsdoc]

It's mind numbing watching all the people apologize for Richardson sucking. Y'all look for one little moment to say he is progressing. He was a freak crossing route screw up from being like 1-12 in the first half. He had a couple dropped passes that should have been caught, but he had a lot more absolute horrible QB play. He is a freak of nature athletically, but has no idea how to be a professional QB. He just doesn't get it, and he never will. The same knocks in he had in high school and college, they followed him to the pro's. They are never going to coach him up. He is a bust and I will guarantee I am right. We wasted a draft pick that could have been used on defense. This team is so poorly constructed.

AR may well end up being a colossal bust but you can’t make that call yet. He has to be given time to try and figure it out.

[Spike]

I fully agree. I felt like today was his best passing day as a Colt. There were not the wildly inaccurate high balls we've seen so much of. There were some dimes out there- in particular the passes to Goodson and Downs- those were GREAT passes.

Decision making, obviously that INT was a terrible decision. Even there though, I remain enraged that he was put in that position to begin with, I am shocked Steichen could be THAT bad at play calling. One of the dumbest fucking approaches I can recall.

I see enough to feel like he could be the guy. I don't think he's gonna be the guy if we continue to do this shit where we try to force him to be this methodical pocket passer vs the guy we drafted for the purpose of NOT BEING the traditional pocket QB. The drive after the fumble being the primary example. You just got a gift, you have momentum, you have seen AR do great work on the edges, but you just stand him up in the pocket like some stoic super hero QB of lore. WTF?

That truly was so damn idiotic. A fucking pee wee lleague head coach knows how boneheaded that approach was. Still fuming about that BS. Steichen makes a lot of bone headed calls especially before half-time.

[apballin]

I fully agree. I felt like today was his best passing day as a Colt. There were not the wildly inaccurate high balls we've seen so much of. There were some dimes out there- in particular the passes to Goodson and Downs- those were GREAT passes.

Decision making, obviously that INT was a terrible decision. Even there though, I remain enraged that he was put in that position to begin with, I am shocked Steichen could be THAT bad at play calling. One of the dumbest fucking approaches I can recall.

I see enough to feel like he could be the guy. I don't think he's gonna be the guy if we continue to do this shit where we try to force him to be this methodical pocket passer vs the guy we drafted for the purpose of NOT BEING the traditional pocket QB. The drive after the fumble being the primary example. You just got a gift, you have momentum, you have seen AR do great work on the edges, but you just stand him up in the pocket like some stoic super hero QB of lore. WTF?

Can’t have him run if he’s gonna get tired

[Lov2fish]

AR may well end up being a colossal bust but you can’t make that call yet. He has to be given time to try and figure it out.

He is a colossal bust. He tapped himself out cause he was tired. The franchise QB tapped out cause he was tired. The dude is a swing and a miss. From high school to pros you would expect to see a semblance of improvement, instead we get more of the same. The NFL heap pile is full of talented guys who never got it. More will be added including this one. He will be a footnote in the history of potential.

[ChoppedWood]

That truly was so damn idiotic. A fucking pee wee lleague head coach knows how boneheaded that approach was. Still fuming about that BS. Steichen makes a lot of bone headed calls especially before half-time.

I said this very fucking thing in the game thread. Go to your local fucking elementary school, poll every coach there over the next 40 years on their approach in that same scenario- they are heading to the locker room. Unreal that he fucking did that, unfucking real! To me, this tops the fucking stupidity of the Pats fake FG, and that's astonishing to say.

[YDFL Commish]

He is a colossal bust. He tapped himself out cause he was tired. The franchise QB tapped out cause he was tired. The dude is a swing and a miss. From high school to pros you would expect to see a semblance of improvement, instead we get more of the same. The NFL heap pile is full of talented guys who never got it. More will be added including this one. He will be a footnote in the history of potential.

If I'm not mistaken Harbaugh did the same thing in the 1st game of the '97 season in Miami. The big difference is that he never returned to the game.

[rm1369]

Can’t have him run if he’s gonna get tired

I’m not buying that he was tired. Guys a major fucking athlete if nothing else. My best guess is he felt a shot of pain in the previous injury from giving the defender a piggy back ride. Being winded makes absolutely no fucking sense.

I have few complaints with his accuracy today. 2-3 balls. That’s an improvement. Decision making was bad. He needs reps. Steichen’s decision to go empty backfield and throw with a raw qb before half was a worse decision than any AR made.

[CletusPyle]

It's mind numbing watching all the people apologize for Richardson sucking. Y'all look for one little moment to say he is progressing. He was a freak crossing route screw up from being like 1-12 in the first half. He had a couple dropped passes that should have been caught, but he had a lot more absolute horrible QB play. He is a freak of nature athletically, but has no idea how to be a professional QB. He just doesn't get it, and he never will. The same knocks in he had in high school and college, they followed him to the pro's. They are never going to coach him up. He is a bust and I will guarantee I am right. We wasted a draft pick that could have been used on defense. This team is so poorly constructed.

Sadly I agree with you, I think Richardson is not going to be the player we all hoped he would be! Hopefully it comes together for him in the second half of the season and I have to eat a bucket of crow! This loss was devastating today, we went from having a share of first place to being eliminated from winning the division without a miracle!

I think Flacco could get us into the playoffs, but the Colts will give AR the starting job as long as he is healthy, hoping he suddenly becomes someone that to this point he hasn't been!

[YDFL Commish]

I’m not buying that he was tired. Guys a major fucking athlete if nothing else. My best guess is he felt a shot of pain in the previous injury from giving the defender a piggy back ride. Being winded makes absolutely no fucking sense.

I have few complaints with his accuracy today. 2-3 balls. That’s an improvement. Decision making was bad. He needs reps. Steichen’s decision to go empty backfield and throw with a raw qb before half was a worse decision than any AR made.

My initial thought was that AR lost a contact lens.

[Colts And Orioles]

If I'm not mistaken, Jim Harbaugh did the same thing in the 1st game of the 1997 season in Miami ...... the big difference is that he never returned to the game.





o


I did not know that ...... thanks.

I found some info in regard to that incident. He got an IV for dehydration at halftime, and he took himself out of the game late in the 4th quarter. This paragraph is from an article that I just dug up ......



The Dolphins enjoyed one slice of revenge against Harbaugh on a typically sweltering, late-August day to open the 1997 season in Miami. After needing an IV at halftime, Harbaugh finally took himself out with 3 1/2 minutes left in a 16-10 Dolphins victory. l "I knew I was hurting the team, so I took myself out" l he said.


https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/nfl/2012/03/31/jim-harbaugh-monster-against-miami/7757021007/

o

[CletusPyle]

My initial thought was that AR lost a contact lens.

On the radio broadcast, the sideline reporter Larra Overton, said she did not see any staff come over and check on him, she said he appeared to just be catching his breath. She actually made it sound pretty lame for him to be honest.....

[CletusPyle]

I've ask this before and never got an answer or opinion from anyone...is Cameron Turner a good QB coach? Is he the only one that works with AR or does he have a personal coach? I mean to me, his lack of progress might warrant bringing in another QB coach or someone to work with him personally!

I know there have been other QBs that struggled early in their careers and then a coach changed the foot work or throwing motion and suddenly they became very effective.

[IndyNorm]

Exactly...forget the stats and trust your eyes.

Yeah, let's just ignore completely abysmal completion stats of 2 for 15 in the half and 10 for 32 in the game. Yes there were a couple of drops, but there weren't 10 of them. AR is a complete shit show right now, and as others have pointed out it's pretty much a miracle that we've been able to keep the games this close w/ such horrible QB play. With that being said we're tied to AR for the foreseeable future, so we have to stick w/ him and hope he improves.

I do fully agree w/ everyone on Steichen. The play calling at the end of the half under the circumstances was ricockulous.

[IndyNorm]

I’m not buying that he was tired. Guys a major fucking athlete if nothing else. My best guess is he felt a shot of pain in the previous injury from giving the defender a piggy back ride. Being winded makes absolutely no fucking sense.

I have few complaints with his accuracy today. 2-3 balls. That’s an improvement. Decision making was bad. He needs reps. Steichen’s decision to go empty backfield and throw with a raw qb before half was a worse decision than any AR made.

No, AR admitted in the post game that he came out b/c he was tired.

https://sports.yahoo.com/anthony-richardson-exited-briefly-vs-texans-because-he-was-tired-aint-gonna-lie-215942904.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKicjYaCuIn4upgGcA-F8MLfhC1xPXK66IRZUk18Epu236GiU2aPt_oJK9vwxCbbyHqNx a4iiNP8YD3OTXkdiLMY6fp9dQu-QMFrQ3bl5RZ0LSK7-cnLNWwUuqid1hg09uNXwCzfgKf5TV4wP33uhWxVnaYk9fAD7v6 lWn4qKcm9

[IndyNorm]

I've ask this before and never got an answer or opinion from anyone...is Cameron Turner a good QB coach? Is he the only one that works with AR or does he have a personal coach? I mean to me, his lack of progress might warrant bringing in another QB coach or someone to work with him personally!

I know there have been other QBs that struggled early in their careers and then a coach changed the foot work or throwing motion and suddenly they became very effective.

This is a good point. Whether it's just Turner or someone else as well, they probably need to be replaced b/c what they're doing isn't working.

[ChaosTheory]

Pulling himself out was also pretty damn discouraging. Unless he actually hurt something breaking that tackle or taking that hit and isn't telling us, you can't justify it.

As for the accuracy... I'm sorry, and I know completion percentage doesn't always tell the whole story... but 10/32 is his notably better day? True, he wasn't sending missiles to the second row, but shit.

I mentioned it earlier, but accurate by NFL standards is not just getting the ball to the receiver where he could catch it vs. air. The placement is relatively subtle and separates accurate passers. He's either not judging his leads properly or not hitting his intended marks, or both.

I'll rewatch to completely sure, but I think several of these pass break-ups (drops) where bad placement. Guys have to slow their momentum, reach, contort, dive too often...

Like the final drive, 22 seconds left, Pierce beats Stingley clean on a circus route or whatever out-route it was and AR puts it between Pierce and Stingley. Pierce has to reach way back, does a 360 trying to catch it. Everybody bitches that Pierce dropped it, but goddamn.

You're trying to get a field goal. Even if Pierce makes that catch, he's in bounds. He's got like 3-4 yards between Pierce and the sideline, and he throws it a yard inside of him. It's a few yards from where it needed to be.

[YDFL Commish]

Pulling himself out was also pretty damn discouraging. Unless he actually hurt something breaking that tackle or taking that hit and isn't telling us, you can't justify it.

As for the accuracy... I'm sorry, and I know completion percentage doesn't always tell the whole story... but 10/32 is his notably better day? True, he wasn't sending missiles to the second row, but shit.

I mentioned it earlier, but accurate by NFL standards is not just getting the ball to the receiver where he could catch it vs. air. The placement is relatively subtle and separates accurate passers. He's either not judging his leads properly or not hitting his intended marks, or both.

I'll rewatch to completely sure, but I think several of these pass break-ups (drops) where bad placement. Guys have to slow their momentum, reach, contort, dive too often...

Like the final drive, 22 seconds left, Pierce beats Stingley clean on a circus route or whatever out-route it was and AR puts it between Pierce and Stingley. Pierce has to reach way back, does a 360 trying to catch it. Everybody bitches that Pierce dropped it, but goddamn.

You're trying to get a field goal. Even if Pierce makes that catch, he's in bounds. He's got like 3-4 yards between Pierce and the sideline, and he throws it a yard inside of him. It's a few yards from where it needed to be.

In this game anyway, my take is if Richardson had let go of the ball 1 tenth of a second earlier then he's completing a lot of those passes. That's not accuracy. That is timing.

[YDFL Commish]

Pulling himself out was also pretty damn discouraging. Unless he actually hurt something breaking that tackle or taking that hit and isn't telling us, you can't justify it.

As for the accuracy... I'm sorry, and I know completion percentage doesn't always tell the whole story... but 10/32 is his notably better day? True, he wasn't sending missiles to the second row, but shit.

I mentioned it earlier, but accurate by NFL standards is not just getting the ball to the receiver where he could catch it vs. air. The placement is relatively subtle and separates accurate passers. He's either not judging his leads properly or not hitting his intended marks, or both.

I'll rewatch to completely sure, but I think several of these pass break-ups (drops) where bad placement. Guys have to slow their momentum, reach, contort, dive too often...

Like the final drive, 22 seconds left, Pierce beats Stingley clean on a circus route or whatever out-route it was and AR puts it between Pierce and Stingley. Pierce has to reach way back, does a 360 trying to catch it. Everybody bitches that Pierce dropped it, but goddamn.

You're trying to get a field goal. Even if Pierce makes that catch, he's in bounds. He's got like 3-4 yards between Pierce and the sideline, and he throws it a yard inside of him. It's a few yards from where it needed to be.

In this game anyway, my take is if Richardson had let go of the ball 1 tenth of a second earlier then he's completing a lot of those passes. That's not accuracy. That is timing.

[Mr. Session]

I can't remember seeing any QB tap out from being tired. That was an incredible run to save a sack, so I get it, but I've never seen that at this level.

I've been wondering why they don't use his legs primarily, and use his arm as a counter, but I think I just saw an argument why. Stamina.

This dude really is a unicorn. I've never seen one like him.

[albany ed]

Well, with the playoffs rapidly becoming a kind of an unreachable fantasy, it's time to just relax and let Richardson sink or swim. We're stuck with him through 2026. His cap hit would be too huge to jettison him before then. In 2026 he'll be 24 years old, still very young. Maybe, just maybe he'll develop. Right now, I believe his biggest problem is between his ears. He plays like a wreckless teenager who can't see beyond the next second. I'm not sure how this can be rectified, but I do believe that if it could, he just might be special.

[njcoltfan]

I’m not buying that he was tired. Guys a major fucking athlete if nothing else. My best guess is he felt a shot of pain in the previous injury from giving the defender a piggy back ride. Being winded makes absolutely no fucking sense.

I have few complaints with his accuracy today. 2-3 balls. That’s an improvement. Decision making was bad. He needs reps. Steichen’s decision to go empty backfield and throw with a raw qb before half was a worse decision than any AR made.
If he truly did tap himself out BECAUSE HE WAS TIRED, did he lose the locker room??

[ChaosTheory]

In this game anyway, my take is if Richardson had let go of the ball 1 tenth of a second earlier then he's completing a lot of those passes. That's not accuracy. That is timing.

We might be talking about the same thing. Ultimately, he's not getting the ball where it's supposed to be, when it's supposed to be there. Accuracy is a good enough term for me.

That said, throws like the Pierce one I mentioned, aren't timing issues. The ball "got there" at the right time. It was just 3 yards left of where it needed to be.

[omahacolt]

^^^^
THIS

Steichen is weird. He seems, for whatever reason, to be just fine having 2 incompletions and 3rd and 10 and in a damn near impossible position to convert. But he seems to HATE the concept of running twice and having 3rd and 4 which is converted at a much more frequent rate because of how many options are available on the play sheet at that point.

The one thing we have all seen with JT- he is a trust the process back. He will have 6-8-10 straight runs for 1,2,3 yards, and then he will fucking house it. Then, he is a fucking monster just gobbling up 12-20 yarders after that.

Steichen just cannot seem to allow that pattern with JT for whatever the fuck the reason is.

Starting to think he is way too similar to Reich in that he wants have a lot of the attention focused on him, how inventive, how creative he is vs just doing the right things to win fucking games!
good post

yeah i don't understand it. we all knew AR was going to struggle some and have some ups and downs. how are we not making his job easier? lean on the run game with JT and AR. set up those big shots downfield. use screens, misdirection, swing passes to the rb and some fucking slants to pittman. stay out of 3rd and long. you cant survive trying to convert 3rd and long all the time. like we saw yesterday

[omahacolt]

It's mind numbing watching all the people apologize for Richardson sucking. Y'all look for one little moment to say he is progressing. He was a freak crossing route screw up from being like 1-12 in the first half. He had a couple dropped passes that should have been caught, but he had a lot more absolute horrible QB play. He is a freak of nature athletically, but has no idea how to be a professional QB. He just doesn't get it, and he never will. The same knocks in he had in high school and college, they followed him to the pro's. They are never going to coach him up. He is a bust and I will guarantee I am right. We wasted a draft pick that could have been used on defense. This team is so poorly constructed.
if Mitchell gets his feet down for the td, if goodson caught that dime to him we would probably be having a different conversation,

AR had some big mistakes this game, but that's not the first place I look to place blame

[omahacolt]

I’m not buying that he was tired. Guys a major fucking athlete if nothing else. My best guess is he felt a shot of pain in the previous injury from giving the defender a piggy back ride. Being winded makes absolutely no fucking sense.

I have few complaints with his accuracy today. 2-3 balls. That’s an improvement. Decision making was bad. He needs reps. Steichen’s decision to go empty backfield and throw with a raw qb before half was a worse decision than any AR made.

my first thought was he was lying about being hurt there so people wouldn't call him a pussy but his lie was way worse. he looked hurt to me. but who knows

[omahacolt]

I've ask this before and never got an answer or opinion from anyone...is Cameron Turner a good QB coach? Is he the only one that works with AR or does he have a personal coach? I mean to me, his lack of progress might warrant bringing in another QB coach or someone to work with him personally!

I know there have been other QBs that struggled early in their careers and then a coach changed the foot work or throwing motion and suddenly they became very effective.

AR has his own QB coach as well

[rm1369]

my first thought was he was lying about being hurt there so people wouldn't call him a pussy but his lie was way worse. he looked hurt to me. but who knows

Yeah that was my line of thinking as well - aggregated the injury and knew it would get him pulled. Lied about it and the lie makes him looking even worse. Bad look either way. He only ran like 10 yds on that run, I believe just getting back to the LOS. The most significant thing was bearing the weight of another 250+ lbs player trying to drag him down.

[ChoppedWood]

my first thought was he was lying about being hurt there so people wouldn't call him a pussy but his lie was way worse. he looked hurt to me. but who knows

Yeah I think he was hurt and I think his first reaction to any pain is to immediately freak out. I think he realized it wasn't anything serious and was ready to go right back in. That's a thing he can't keep doing. Fucking football man, if the ball is around you, you are more than likely going to get fucking hit and it's going to hurt somewhere. Not every pain is some major game / season ending thing. Unfortunately starting to worry he is too soft for this shit.

[omahacolt]

In this game anyway, my take is if Richardson had let go of the ball 1 tenth of a second earlier then he's completing a lot of those passes. That's not accuracy. That is timing.

there was definitely some of that. where he hit his back drop and should let it go but had to move in the pocket making the throw late. that's kind of how football works. problem is we aren't doing anything easy so the problems just compound

[rm1369]

there was definitely some of that. where he hit his back drop and should let it go but had to move in the pocket making the throw late. that's kind of how football works. problem is we aren't doing anything easy so the problems just compound

His play in the second half of the last two games has been significantly better than his play in both first halfs. Not great, but definitely better. Is that play calling from Steichen? Or is that AR settling in? I don’t have the data to say for sure but my eyeballs tell me it’s Stechein’s play calling. I remember very little from the first half of either of those games that seemed like he was trying to make it easy on AR - the one screen they ran in either game being the only possible exception.

[sherck]

Well, with the playoffs rapidly becoming a kind of an unreachable fantasy, it's time to just relax and let Richardson sink or swim. We're stuck with him through 2026. His cap hit would be too huge to jettison him before then. In 2026 he'll be 24 years old, still very young. Maybe, just maybe he'll develop. Right now, I believe his biggest problem is between his ears. He plays like a wreckless teenager who can't see beyond the next second. I'm not sure how this can be rectified, but I do believe that if it could, he just might be special.

Not really quite true.

If we cut him before 2025 (next season), then the dead cap would be $20.087m which is bit hard, not not impossible to get around.

His dead cap in 2026 is only his salary/prorated bonus of $10.816m. With an estimated team cap hit around $265m, $10m is very, very doable.

So, I think he will be here in 2025 and I think that is the correct decision. With his injury history, giving him a 3rd season to sink or swim is the right thing to do with a 1st round QB.

But, if he has not progressed in 2025, I think it is very, very possible that the Colts might head in a new direction at QB (cough....Arch Manning....cough) ! :)

[ChoppedWood]

Okay, JMV show- apparently in Steichen's presser they indicated he said that EVERYTHING is being re-evaluated---- including the STARTING QB POSITION!

Further, and I could not keep listening further, so I can't tell if JMV was relaying what was said by Steichen, or if this was JMV speculating, but he was talking about the 3rd down INT being an AR audible. He was saying some shit about how there is no way they could be that trusting with this guy that had 2 connections out of 15 attempts.

On that note, they came out in 5 wide- which I had forgotten that little detail which just further cements my belief that Steichen is a trash dumpster of a coach. So maybe it was called as a QB keeper and AR decided to go rogue? Don't know, just know that was a catastrophe of incomprehensible dumb fuckery!

Now back to the re-evaluation. To me, that's Steichen saying he has seen enough and believes they can't win with AR as the QB. So, if that is the case, if they make the change back to Flacco- the AR era is fucking over, period, you can't return to him after that!

And, I will add this, if they pull the plug on AR, then it should be an immediate termination of the fucking straight bill loser fuck! Get him the fuck out of here as a massive statement to the rest of the org- we aren't tolerating this malaise of suck any longer!

In the end, we are basically fucked at this point.

[Hoopsdoc]

I’ll be f****g PISSED if they give up on Richardson after 12 freaking games.

[ChoppedWood]

I’ll be f****g PISSED if they give up on Richardson after 12 freaking games.

100% agree, and to me, the ONLY way you can throw in the towel now is to announce Flacco is QB1 and straight bill loser fuck is gone. You HAVE to pin this on Ballard, it's an absolute must. Everyone has been in agreement, Ballard's future is tied to AR's and if you are saying AR has no future, then neither does the pompous for absolutely NO REASON 8 years of doing jack fucking shit loser!

[ChoppedWood]

And there it is. I think the AR era is done for already.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/colts-coach-shane-steichen-wont-commit-to-qb-anthony-richardson-starting-next-week-were-evaluating-200701614.html

[Hoopsdoc]

And there it is. I think the AR era is done for already.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/colts-coach-shane-steichen-wont-commit-to-qb-anthony-richardson-starting-next-week-were-evaluating-200701614.html

I think either A:they’re trying to light a fire under his ass or B:he was freelancing to much and pissed Steichen off. Or some combination of the two.

I refuse to believe they’d be dumb enough to pull the plug on him already.

Especially now that the division is essentially out of reach.

[ChoppedWood]

I think either A:they’re trying to light a fire under his ass or B:he was freelancing to much and pissed Steichen off. Or some combination of the two.

I refuse to believe they’d be dumb enough to pull the plug on him already.

Especially now that the division is essentially out of reach.

I am really wondering if this isn't Steichen with a power play. Got the sense after the hip issue Steichen was flexing on AR a little bit with a sort of ok, you want to be soft, I'll fucking show you I will not hesitate to jump over you. And this morning Bowen was saying he read into Steichen's "he was tired and needed a break" comment to basically be "this is what I am having to deal with because the GM is forcing me to play him".

If so, perhaps this is Steichen creating a stand off with Ballard? If so, good, fucking force that POS out of the organization! I am not sold on giving up on AR this early, but if it meant we would be free of Ballard, I'll sign up for that. I don't believe we will ever be a contender with that fucker calling the shots.

[YDFL Commish]

I am really wondering if this isn't Steichen with a power play. Got the sense after the hip issue Steichen was flexing on AR a little bit with a sort of ok, you want to be soft, I'll fucking show you I will not hesitate to jump over you. And this morning Bowen was saying he read into Steichen's "he was tired and needed a break" comment to basically be "this is what I am having to deal with because the GM is forcing me to play him".

If so, perhaps this is Steichen creating a stand off with Ballard? If so, good, fucking force that POS out of the organization! I am not sold on giving up on AR this early, but if it meant we would be free of Ballard, I'll sign up for that. I don't believe we will ever be a contender with that fucker calling the shots.

And the man behind the curtain is Irsay.

[apballin]

I am really wondering if this isn't Steichen with a power play. Got the sense after the hip issue Steichen was flexing on AR a little bit with a sort of ok, you want to be soft, I'll fucking show you I will not hesitate to jump over you. And this morning Bowen was saying he read into Steichen's "he was tired and needed a break" comment to basically be "this is what I am having to deal with because the GM is forcing me to play him".

If so, perhaps this is Steichen creating a stand off with Ballard? If so, good, fucking force that POS out of the organization! I am not sold on giving up on AR this early, but if it meant we would be free of Ballard, I'll sign up for that. I don't believe we will ever be a contender with that fucker calling the shots.

Exactly what I was thinking with Shane after the hip injury,

He’s putting Shane in an impossible position, you can’t be a scrambling QB that can’t take a hit and gets tired after a few runs especially if you have accuracy issues

[IndyNorm]

And the man behind the curtain is Irsay.

Maybe Jim's come to the realization that he won't see another SB in his lifetime, but he could see another playoff game(s) if we go w/ Flacco.

[ChoppedWood]

And the man behind the curtain is Irsay.

Yeah as I said yesterday, right now I just view the whole of the organization to be a disgrace. It is sad to be at this point, 8 years into the "plan" that is clearly fucking failing. It's time for a re-set... bulldoze this shit!

[Racehorse]

Evaluating everything could mean they are discussing the direction of the team moving forward. If AR is not the guy moving forward, do they move players for future assets? Do they try to trade for a QB (not that I know any QB worth trading for that would be available)? Is it a total reset on the franchise, meaning we play mostly young guys to see who is worth keeping?

[ChoppedWood]

Evaluating everything could mean they are discussing the direction of the team moving forward. If AR is not the guy moving forward, do they move players for future assets? Do they try to trade for a QB (not that I know any QB worth trading for that would be available)? Is it a total reset on the franchise, meaning we play mostly young guys to see who is worth keeping?

When said in that sort of broad context, fuck man, that's a top of the house down view- that starts with the GM. If you are gonna go youth movement, give Buck, Kenny, Grover and Nelson the opportunity to get a title somewhere and just accumulate pics for them. Throw the season in the crapper. Leverage what you have to in order to move up, and have someone else rebuild the damn thing with their new players.

If we become sellers and that fucking moron is still in charge of personnel, fuck man, just shut the doors on 56th and let it be overgrown with weeds.

[Hoopsdoc]

Guys, we’re 4-4. There is no way in hell they’re thinking of selling right now. That’s ridiculous.

[Racehorse]

Guys, we’re 4-4. There is no way in hell they’re thinking of selling right now. That’s ridiculous.

I agree, but "evaluating everything" might be broader than just QB. Maybe it means he is evaluating play-calling, or his personnel decisions with TEs and RBs.

[ChoppedWood]

Guys, we’re 4-4. There is no way in hell they’re thinking of selling right now. That’s ridiculous.

We're 4-4. I think 1-3 over the next four is probably what it looks like even with Flacco (we SHOULD beat the Jets but Gus is a wet dream for an aged out washed up Rogers to have one last OMG games). So we're at best 5-7 with 5 to go. Bills, Ravens, Steelers, Chiefs, Texans. To me, they are all in. Probably a scrum between us, Chargers, Bengals, and Broncos to get the last spot. The back of our schedule is actually pretty damn weak, so it's possible we could get a spot.

Fuck, I don't know, is it even worth getting in, getting waxed and having the 17th pick?

[ChoppedWood]

We're 4-4. I think 1-3 over the next four is probably what it looks like even with Flacco (we SHOULD beat the Jets but Gus is a wet dream for an aged out washed up Rogers to have one last OMG games). So we're at best 5-7 with 5 to go. Bills, Ravens, Steelers, Chiefs, Texans. To me, they are all in. Probably a scrum between us, Chargers, Bengals, and Broncos to get the last spot. The back of our schedule is actually pretty damn weak, so it's possible we could get a spot.

Fuck, I don't know, is it even worth getting in, getting waxed and having the 17th pick?

Let me answer that- to me NO, FUCK NO it is not worth it! That would almost guarantee shit bag another "we're close, let's run it back" year. He needs to be gone!

[Racehorse]

Let me answer that- to me NO, FUCK NO it is not worth it! That would almost guarantee shit bag another "we're close, let's run it back" year. He needs to be gone!

Some people agree with you in wanting Ballard gone, and they point to the lack of playoffs as a reason. You are the rare one that wants to not make the layoffs, and also get rid of Ballard.

[CletusPyle]

And there it is. I think the AR era is done for already.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/colts-coach-shane-steichen-wont-commit-to-qb-anthony-richardson-starting-next-week-were-evaluating-200701614.html

If you were going to play Flacco you should have done it against a shorthanded Houston team....that game was huge and for first place, AR didn't have it and should have been replaced with Flacco. Especially after he pulled himself out, I can't believe Shane put him back in, I wonder if he was told to do it?

Anyway, I'm not convinced Steichen can sit AR, no way Ballard will allow him to give up on AR this soon, even if it might be the right decision.

[ChoppedWood]

Okay, JMV show- apparently in Steichen's presser they indicated he said that EVERYTHING is being re-evaluated---- including the STARTING QB POSITION!

Further, and I could not keep listening further, so I can't tell if JMV was relaying what was said by Steichen, or if this was JMV speculating, but he was talking about the 3rd down INT being an AR audible. He was saying some shit about how there is no way they could be that trusting with this guy that had 2 connections out of 15 attempts.

On that note, they came out in 5 wide- which I had forgotten that little detail which just further cements my belief that Steichen is a trash dumpster of a coach. So maybe it was called as a QB keeper and AR decided to go rogue? Don't know, just know that was a catastrophe of incomprehensible dumb fuckery!

Now back to the re-evaluation. To me, that's Steichen saying he has seen enough and believes they can't win with AR as the QB. So, if that is the case, if they make the change back to Flacco- the AR era is fucking over, period, you can't return to him after that!

And, I will add this, if they pull the plug on AR, then it should be an immediate termination of the fucking straight bill loser fuck! Get him the fuck out of here as a massive statement to the rest of the org- we aren't tolerating this malaise of suck any longer!

In the end, we are basically fucked at this point.

Well, this certainly adds a whole new layer to it- HE APPARENTLY DID AUDIBLE ON THAT INT!

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/10-thoughts-anthony-richardson-joe-091811055.html

"Richardson checked out of that play, sent Goodson out wide to throw out of empty. He stared down zone coverage and threw an interception on a hitch route that led to a touchdown and the swing moment in the loss.

This was young quarterbacking taking the autonomy to change the play but missing the plot. It's on Steichen and Richardson, but it's emblematic of the lack of situational awareness hurting Richardson right now. When the hitch route was so easily covered, he had to throw it away so they could punt and go to halftime in a tie. There was no real payoff to hitting a slant route to the 20-yard line anyway."

Yeah, this certainly sounds like his time as QB 1 is over. I am not one who believes we can sit him and then come back to him. Too high a pick, too much investment, too much pushing the message that he is the guy.

Ummmmm I think this is Zach Wilson 2.0.


FUCK!

[ChoppedWood]

Some people agree with you in wanting Ballard gone, and they point to the lack of playoffs as a reason. You are the rare one that wants to not make the layoffs, and also get rid of Ballard.

Man, such a shitty position. Yes, of course I want to make the playoffs, you get there and you just never know- ala Harbaugh's team.

However, I am convinced if we make it, it gives that stooge yet another year to do fucking NOTHING. We're getting older, some of HIS guys are now reaching an age where they aren't good enough, and I don't for a minute think he can let them go- he likes his guys.

Yeah, sadly, I would prefer missing the playoffs even if we are capable of getting there, just to be rid of this fucking dude.

[Colts And Orioles]

And there it is. I think the AR era is done for already.


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/colts-coach-shane-steichen-wont-commit-to-qb-anthony-richardson-starting-next-week-were-evaluating-200701614.html





o


I think that Hoopsdoc is correct ...... I think that this is simply a proverbial "tough love" statement/proclamation, a way of trying to light a fire under Richardson's butt.

Steichen doesn't want Richardson taking his status as the team's starting quarterback for granted, 1st-round draft pick or no 1st-round draft pick.

o

[Colts And Orioles]

Well, this certainly adds a whole new layer to it- HE APPARENTLY DID AUDIBLE ON THAT INT!


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/10-thoughts-anthony-richardson-joe-091811055.html


"Richardson checked out of that play, sent Goodson out wide to throw out of empty. He stared down zone coverage and threw an interception on a hitch route that led to a touchdown and the swing moment in the loss.

This was young quarterbacking taking the autonomy to change the play but missing the plot. It's on Steichen and Richardson, but it's emblematic of the lack of situational awareness hurting Richardson right now. ) When the hitch route was so easily covered, he had to throw it away so they could punt and go to halftime in a tie. ) There was no real payoff to hitting a slant route to the 20-yard line anyway."

Yeah, this certainly sounds like his time as QB 1 is over. I am not one who believes we can sit him and then come back to him. Too high a pick, too much investment, too much pushing the message that he is the guy.

Ummmmm I think this is Zach Wilson 2.0.


FUCK !!!





o


Throwing it away would have stopped the clock on an incomplete pass ...... he should have just eaten the ball to make the Texans use their final time-out, then punted.

o

[ChoppedWood]

o


Throwing it away would have stopped the clock on an incomplete pass ...... he should have just eaten the ball to make the Texans use their final time-out, then punted.

o

Million percent agree- he should have just tucked it and run- they have to use a TO and we have to play good D for a couple plays.

[ChoppedWood]

Okay, I think I have come to rest on this all now. A lot of it helped by an extremely well articulated piece just now by Kevin Bowen.

My position= AR MUST START vs the Vikes!

The season was to see what he was capable of- he had to be allowed to fail, we had to look at the PO's as just a wonderful secondary reward if he played well enough to get us there. To me, that should absolutely remain the focus for the team through the remainder of 24'- and I THINK we stand just as much of a chance of getting to the post season with AR in as we would with Flacco. Even with Flacco we may lose all of the next 4. Even with AR as erratic as he is, we honestly SHOULD win the final 5 because those teams suck!

If we go Flacco, we MAY make the PO's, and we will have perpetuated the agonizing post Luck saga for yet another series of years. It is incredible that we are back to this same damn pivot point yet again, it's sad, it really fucking is. Put Flacco in, AR is toast, the damage to him as a Colt- is too extreme, he would have to be moved. Then what? What the fuck are we going to do then? Draft a mid 2nd round grade QB at 17? No, fuck that, we cannot CHOOSE to go that route, we can't!

As for AR, I think most if not all of us would agree, outside of the INT, Sunday was probably his best overall passing day. He was not throwing huge overthrows and while a couple were wide, he threw a bunch of catchable balls that just weren't- but they were fucking close, that's an improvement. He also threw some good passes that were caught and some of those demonstrated touch- a couple short crossers and a screen pass that was on the money. Hell even the long TD to Downs- he settled and threw the easy ball for him to catch and run it in. He didn't panic and throw a piss whistle that sailed out of bounds.

Now, here's where I see the MUST keep AR coming from. We have all seemingly lost track of the TD to Pierce that was called back due to Pittman's pick. This was the play directly before the tap out play. We have forgotten the dude had a man on his back and he just used his big strong ass body to jettison the dude like a rag doll- he settled and he threw a perfect pass to a wide open Pierce. So he did the thing we have all been so excited by- he blew off the would be sacker! He kept his eyes downfield, located a wide open WR and hit him dead in the chest with the TD pass. So, who has consistently been the "if he could only become____________" QB we have all talked about====== JOSH ALLEN. Well that was about as Josh Allen as we're going to see. He did exactly every bit of what we all wanted him to do- there was just a fuck up by Pittman that took what probably was the winning TD away. Then the next play happened and we all know the fire storm that has ensued. And rightfully sow, he fucked up bad. At the same time, we are also again losing focus on the fact the fucking dude got out of the grip of a 350LB man and got back into FG range- again, a Josh Allen / Big Ben type of play- we are just ignoring that aspect of it.

So, he's doing many of the things we are wanting to see. We have to keep seeing if he can do them on a more consistent basis. Myself, contrary to many, I actually think he is developing despite the horrible stats.

Further, in terms of Flacco, love what he brings, but lets also not lose focus of the fact that AR has been getting hit and if not for plays like those 2 above, the sack totals would be far worse. The OL has not been good lately. I am 100% convinced even with we go with Flacco, somewhere in the next 4 games, he gets put down for the season and the ball is right back with AR (again Zach Wilson syndrome...).

I am now convinced the audible inside the 5, is MUCH more in Steichen's ire than is the tapping out. I think the tapping out, sucks, but I think that's a Steichen and other leaders issue to surround AR and tell him that's just not an acceptable thing and he has to grow from it (Kelly already talked about how he addressed it with AR as veteran).

The audible on the other hand, well that's a whole different bag. As noted, I have been seething that Steichen went with the pass there. Well the article I posted confirmed AR motioned Goodson out. My gut says this was supposed to be a run. AR saw something, liked what he saw, and decided to go off the reservation with the pass thinking he had something super easy- and he got fooled (its the NFL, these coordinators are good at this shit- well except for ours). If so, I am far more comfortable with it all. Means Steichen wasn't just being some insane fucking dumb ass with one of the all time coaching blunders. Also says that AR is not on some overly rigid protocol where it all comes from the sideline because they don't think he can lead the offense. If all that is correct, terrible decision by AR in the circumstance, but also a sign that the admin- and he himself- feel he is capable of making pre-snap decisions. To me that would be an indicator he is truly doing the book work they have always talked him up for. Otherwise, no fucking way they give him latitude to change at the line.

So, long post but my hope is others are right- this is a tough love situation. Make him feel some heat for a bit and reflect. Announce he is still the starter and come Sunday, no fucking kid gloves, fucking run his ass a ton, put him in a position to use JT more and see if you can pull off a huge upset and get this thing back on track.

If he gets hurt running and blows out his knee, well that sucks, but at the same time, all the pressure is off the administration- the change becomes a function of injury and you are basically at the exact point you would have been anyway- stuck with an old man that you have no plan for replacing but have to figure it out somehow.

[Discflinger]

It was such a difficult game to watch. Texans fans were inviting though and I must applaud them. However, it wasn't loud at all and there were empty seats. Nice stadium and a nicer fan base. BTW, LOTS of Colts jerseys.

[sherck]

I’ll be f****g PISSED if they give up on Richardson after 12 freaking games.
Well, prepare to be pissed because if the rumors are true that AR lost the locker room then it is going to be nearly impossible for him to come back from this benching the Colts just announced.

Ugh....

[Colts And Orioles]

Well, this certainly adds a whole new layer to it ...... HE APPARENTLY DID AUDIBLE ON THAT INT !!!


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/10-thoughts-anthony-richardson-joe-091811055.html






o


The article states that Steichen "wanted to stay aggressive", even after the incomplete pass on the previous play ...... so yes, Richardson audibled out of Steichen's play, but Steichen wanted a pass in the first place. Richardson simply audibled out of one pass play, and into another pass play.


So both Steichen and Richardson were clueless morons in that sequence.

o

[ChoppedWood]

o


The article states that Steichen "wanted to stay aggressive", even after the incomplete pass on the previous play ...... so yes, Richardson audibled out of Steichen's play, but Steichen wanted a pass in the first place. Richardson simply audibled out of one pass play, and into another pass play.


So both Steichen and Richardson were clueless morons in that sequence.

o

Steichen is very quickly burning through his coaching change capital and becoming a very similar case study to his sack of shit predecessor!

Clearly they took AR with the vision of what Steichen did with Hurts in mind, creating a devastating dual threat weapon. Steichen then has seemingly in turn decided he wants to get some kinf of trophy for being able to turn Duante Cullpepper into Tom Brady.

I am fucking lost at this point. Trending toward concluding he just sucks at being the top dog.