OFFICIAL GAME THREAD: Season On the Line ??? (vs. BEARS, 9/22)

[Colts And Orioles]

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In 1993, the Dallas Cowboys started the season at 0-2 and wound up winning the Super Bowl ...... but since the Super Bowl era began in 1966, only 6 teams have overcome an 0-3 start to the make playoffs ...... but not one of those 6 teams even made it to the conference championship game, let alone the Super Bowl. The last team to make the post-season after an 0-3 start was the 2018 Houston Texans.




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[apballin]

Let’s fuckin go!!!

Feed JT today!!!

Can we get out to a lead 1 fucking time this year!!!!

[Racehorse]

Omaha is gonna give you a D-

You get a C+ just for starting it, IMO

[njcoltfan]

Let’s fuckin go!!!

Feed JT today!!!

Can we get out to a lead 1 fucking time this year!!!!
They have, 7-6 against the Texans !

[apballin]

They have, 7-6 against the Texans !

You’re right I forgot that gave us the lead the offense has looked like sloppy desperation all year outside of JT in the 3rd quarter vs the packers

[Hoopsdoc]

Must win game if the season is to amount to anything.

Let’s go Colts.

[Thorgrim]

Kicker comes through.
Coats 19-16

[Chromeburn]

Pittman has back and calf injuries but will play.

[omahacolt]

D on the title. Not a good job at all

[omahacolt]

colts lose on last minute field goal

[Colts And Orioles]

Omaha is gonna give you a D-

You get a C+ just for starting it, IMO.





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Omaha can do whatever he wants in grading game threads ...... all I care about is whether or not the Colts win, and that has nothing to do with what fans on a website post. I stopped believing in the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, jinxes, whammies, and curses a long time ago.

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[IndyNorm]

We'll see how this goes. After last week's shit show I'm not too confident. If the Colts play like they did last week then that'll probably go a long way in them giving me my Sunday afternoon's back :cool:

[YDFL Commish]

colts lose on last minute field goal

Colts lose on a last minute missed FG by Matt Gay.

[ChoppedWood]

Last week, Gus Bradley clearly took note of my sardonic post about 10 men on the field and 10 yard cushions- and deployed my unique strategy to once again allow the opposition to have a field day in TOP. Great job Gus, listening to an internet madman to structure your defensive plan- great job!

This week, Gus will again follow my lead. He is at least going to get away from the 10 vs 11 players concept- which is a good start. This week however he is not giving those big cushions, well he isn't going to JUST TELL THE OPPOSITION that's what he is doing (like he does in every other game!) nope this week all 11 are going to be in the box coming out of the huddle. He is going to spice things up though with some confusion (smart guy). Just before the snap- CB's and Safeties will come to the line and put their hands in the dirt while all the DL will fall back into deep zone coverage. The LB's are going to run off the field, and will be replaced by offensive guards. We're going to go jumbo in the 2nd and 3rd levels. Gus is very confident Bryan and Grover will be able to cover Odunze and Moore with single high coverage support from Nelson.

Caleb Williams will go 97-103 for 568, he will run for 5 TD's, he will be awarded a 2nd Heisman post game.

Bears 57.3 to 2.7 TOP - I have stopped even talking about the score, that's a given, the more pertinent result is whether or not Gus can find a way to end up with negative TOP at some point this season- goals, gotta have em'.

[Colts And Orioles]

We'll see how this goes ...... l after last week's shit show, I'm not too confident. l If the Colts play like they did last week, then that'll probably go a long way in them giving me my Sunday afternoons back. ) :cool:





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In their last 10 season-openers, the Colts are 0-9-1 ...... they have not won their first game of the season since 2013, when a young man named Andrew Luck was taking snaps behind the center.

And so in recent history, the Colts have had a habit of starting slowly and then drawing us back in with a win Week 2 or Week 3 ....... the only time in that span (2013 through 2024) in which the Colts did not win their first game until Week 4 was in 2021, and they went 9-3 over their next 12 games that year before dropping their final 2 to finish at 9-8 overall.

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[apballin]

Kenny Moore seals the game with a pick 6

[ChoppedWood]

Matt Pryor starting at RT. Bears will run for over a grand in this one.

[CletusPyle]

I have lowered my expectations for this team in order to avoid throwing things and damaging items in my home!

[nate505]

Steichen defers on the coin toss. Thank god, don't know why he chose to receive in Game 1.

[Chromeburn]

I have lowered my expectations for this team in order to avoid throwing things and damaging items in my home!

Wise financial decision.

[CletusPyle]

So far so bad.......

[ChoppedWood]

So far so bad.......

I don't know- these cushions look pretty solid, the consistency is quite strong. Nice aesthetics.

[nate505]

All right, a 3rd and 5+ yards...let's see how they manage to give up a conversion this time.

[Spike]

Wow, Bradley defense is a sieve. Just letting the inept Bears offense to move on down the field.

[ChoppedWood]

Okay- great FP- fucking play fake and hit them deep 1st damn play- send a message that we aren't fucking around today.

[CletusPyle]

Blue giving him the business!:D

[nate505]

Well, the Bears tried a 56 long FG for some reason.

Honestly, what gives me a bit of confidence in this game is that the Bears lately have been a more hapless team than the Colts.

[Spike]

Wow, someone missed a FG against us.

[Colts And Orioles]

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A missed FG-attempt of 40 yards-or-less is lucky for the defense.

A missed FG-attempt of 56 yards is a bona-fide stop by the defense.

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[nate505]

Agreed, that penalty is on AR. If you see your guy that far downfield, passing is not an option at that point.

[Spike]

Damn, a positive play and then a penalty.

[nate505]

What the hell, why are Richardson's receivers sabotaging him.

[nate505]

And then Richardson sabotages himself with another pass that's way too high.

[ChoppedWood]

Pierce had a great soft spot in the zone - easy touch pass- gotta stop doing that shit!

[Chromeburn]

The fucking drops man.

[TheMugwump]

Our guy threw two good and one bad pass there, but he'll get an 0 - 2 on the stat sheet because someone was downfield early and then Downs dropped one.

But folks will hate on AR, of course.

[Spike]

Drops, bad pass, penalty. Nothing fucking changes.

[Racehorse]

Well, the Bears tried a 56 long FG for some reason.

Honestly, what gives me a bit of confidence in this game is that the Bears lately have been a more hapless team than the Colts.

TBF, opposing kickers usually hit those against us.

[ChoppedWood]

NFL is such a fucking joke

[ChaosTheory]

They need to coach Ar to throw it at the guy's knees.

[CletusPyle]

Stupid play by Speed....no discipline on our defense all season!

[TheMugwump]

Jesus! Can we just let them play football please?

[TheMugwump]

That's not fucking pass interference! WTF?

[Chromeburn]

Drive by penalty

[ChoppedWood]

Bears OL is dreadful- can we please fucking get this dude to the ground!

[TheMugwump]

I hope Williams wins RotY and puts up amazing, Mahomes-like numbers.

Starting next week, of course.

[Spike]

A lot of this shit is also on Ballard for not reinforcing our defensive backfield. WR's are getting open, but the chosen one Caleb is missing receivers.

Pass rush is looking good though.

[Chromeburn]

At least Latu is looking good.

[CletusPyle]

A lot of this shit is also on Ballard for not reinforcing our defensive backfield. WR's are getting open, but the chosen one Caleb is missing receivers.

Pass rush is looking good though.

True....if Williams could throw and accurate pass itr would be 14-0 right now!

[TheMugwump]

Good. Let JT eat. RTDB!

[Spike]

Let's get the running game going. Let's roll AR out a little more.

[CletusPyle]

We got a huge break on that....AR needs to eat that!

[HoosierinFL]

That was almost some Carson wentz shit

[TheMugwump]

Cut Ryan Kelly right the fuck now.

What a jake.

[ChoppedWood]

Man this is one starting to feel like the Colts of the late 80's & 90's. First to 10 might have an insurmountable lead. FUCK this is ugly football!

[CletusPyle]

That was almost some Carson wentz shit

I almost said Anthony Wentz and then thought better of it!:D

[Spike]

AR trying to do too damn much. At least it didn't turn into an INT.

[Hoopsdoc]

AR is really bad right now. No other way to put it.

Defenses have figured out how to confuse him.

He needs to grow beyond it.

[WaynesWorld87]

Is this a fucking road game? Bears fans are making themselves heard.

[Hoopsdoc]

Just ride JT for now.

[rm1369]

AR trying to do too damn much. At least it didn't turn into an INT.

Through two games that’s what they are teaching him - he has to do something great to win. Rest of the team sure as fuck aren’t going to win it.

[CletusPyle]

AR is really bad right now. No other way to put it.

Defenses have figured out how to confuse him.

He needs to grow beyond it.

I know they don't want him to run but that is his best weapon, and without using it, he is struggling and not getting into any kind of groove. They may need to turn him loose and hope for the best.

[ChaosTheory]

AR, seriously throw it at the guy's knees. Even that screen pass Downs had to jump for.

[ChoppedWood]

Finally got home!

[TheMugwump]

AR is really bad right now. No other way to put it.

Defenses have figured out how to confuse him.

He needs to grow beyond it.

He will. It's more the O-line not being able to pass block right now.

[Spike]

Texans losing 14-0

Levis has another pick 6 against the Packers.

[Spike]

Sacked Caleb's ass! Pash rush is looking good.

[TheMugwump]

Get this stop, and then ride JT and get Pitt involved.

Those guys are beasts.

[CletusPyle]

Frank Reich screwed us big time when he took Young instead of Stroud...I knew Stroud would do well, but I didn't expect him to be this much better than all the rest in his draft class!

[TheMugwump]

Sacked Caleb's ass! Pash rush is looking good.

Bears O-line is nearly as bad as the Colts.

[Hoopsdoc]

He will. It's more the O-line not being able to pass block right now.

O-Line is fine. They’re run blocking well and giving AR adequate time. AR just can’t find anywhere to go with the ball and refuses to run.

[TheMugwump]

O-Line is fine. They’re run blocking well and giving AR adequate time. AR just can’t find anywhere to go with the ball and refuses to run.

Run blocking, sure.

They can't pass-block to save their lives this year. Kelly keeps getting pushed back like a blocking sled.

[Spike]

Kwitty is looking good.

[Hoopsdoc]

Steichen needs to adjust his play calling. What he’s doing isn’t working.

A good coach would adjust.

[nate505]

Steichen needs to adjust his play calling. What he’s doing isn’t working.

A good coach would adjust.

Agreed. Last week Bradley wouldn't adjust. At least this week he doesn't need to, yet.

[TheMugwump]

Michael Beastman Jr.!

[ChaosTheory]

Steichen needs to adjust his play calling. What he’s doing isn’t working.

A good coach would adjust.

Run him on designs. He's not accurate enough yet to scare them. Dual threat the running game.

[nate505]

Damn does AR have an effortless cannon

[CletusPyle]

Nice pass by AR there!

[TheMugwump]

THAT is what the kid can do with time.

[CletusPyle]

Run yes....but not right up the fucking middle!

[Spike]

Beautiful pass to Pierce. He had time to throw that time.

[ChoppedWood]

That was fucking miserable

[nate505]

Run yes....but not right up the fucking middle!

Maddening. That play was doomed from the start.

[TheMugwump]

O-line sucks

[nate505]

Good fucking lord Richardson....that was beyond horrible.

[WaynesWorld87]

We suck.

[Hoopsdoc]

Man, that’s just pathetic.

[HoosierinFL]

Geez

[CletusPyle]

Steichen turn into Frank every time Colts get into the redzone!

[TheMugwump]

That time, that was some Carson Wentz stuff.

[Spike]

WTF AR?

That was just so fucking dumb.

Play calling sucked down there too.

Fuck!!!

[ChaosTheory]

Was that tipped?

[nate505]

That time, that was some Carson Wentz stuff.

Maybe he can take all his lumps in this game and be better for the rest of the season.

[Hoopsdoc]

I had a gut feeling they’d turn it over there.

I would say this game may end up a 0-0 tie but I don’t think the colts can shut the bears out.

I’m pretty sure the bears can shut us out.

[Dam8610]

That INT was brutal. He had Ogletree for the TD, then somehow underthrew Dulin.

[IndyNorm]

I know we need to be patient w/ him but JFC AR that wasn't fucking horrendous!!!

[Dewey 5]

Might need to draft a qb. That was a high school mistake

[nate505]

Was that tipped?

Might have been. Even if it wasn't the decision was dreadful. He was throwing into double coverage.

[CletusPyle]

We're fucked!

[Dam8610]

AR is starting to look like not the answer, and that would be a fireable offense for Ballard. He could've traded up and gotten Stroud.

[IndyNorm]

Might have been. Even if it wasn't the decision was dreadful. He was throwing into double coverage.

Tripple coverage actually :mad::mad:

[Hoopsdoc]

This is just a really bad team.

[albany ed]

He’s just not ready for the NFL. he may never be. Of course many said that about Darnold.

[TheMugwump]

Maybe he can take all his lumps in this game and be better for the rest of the season.

Hopefully. And maybe he can still do enough to win the game.

[Lov2fish]

That INT was brutal. He had Ogletree for the TD, then somehow underthrew Dulin.

That has been his M/O his entire career. I don't care what anyone say's, he is not the guy and never will be.

[TheMugwump]

Great pass by Williams. Not much defense for that one.

[CletusPyle]

This is AR vs AR Jr.

[Hoopsdoc]

AR is starting to look like not the answer, and that would be a fireable offense for Ballard. He could've traded up and gotten Stroud.

Why do you keep saying this?

There was NO FUCKING WAY the Texans were going to gift us Stroud.

It’s beyond retarded that you keep saying this.

[Colts And Orioles]

Okay- great FP- fucking play fake and hit them deep 1st damn play- send a message that we aren't fucking around today.





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Unfortunately, that's precisely what the Bears did to the Colts just now, immediately after Richardson threw the INT.

But the Colts are still in the game, at 0-0.

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[IndyNorm]

I had a gut feeling they’d turn it over there.

I would say this game may end up a 0-0 tie but I don’t think the colts can shut the bears out.

I’m pretty sure the bears can shut us out.

Case in point. Unless the Bears royally fuck this up then the game's over.

[Chromeburn]

Putting a bit too much on his head I think. Need to simplify it.

[Dam8610]

Way to get it back defense.

[Colts And Orioles]

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Unfortunately, that's precisely what the Bears did to the Colts just now, immediately after Richardson threw the INT.

But the Colts are still in the game, at 0-0.

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Just shut up and watch the game, C & O.

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[TheMugwump]

That is what young QB's will do. They give, and they take.

Both these guys are going to be great. Just not today. Or this year.

[ChaosTheory]

That has been his M/O his entire career. I don't care what anyone say's, he is not the guy and never will be.

I'm not there yet, but he's not been encouraging. The occasional pretty deep pass is great... But who gives a shit if we can't make the basic throws and decisions.

Still early

[Spike]

Damn, we got the ball back on the chosen one's pick. Dodged a bullet there.

[Chromeburn]

He’s just not ready for the NFL. he may never be. Of course many said that about Darnold.

We give up on QBs to early I think.

[Dam8610]

Why do you keep saying this?

There was NO FUCKING WAY the Texans were going to gift us Stroud.

It’s beyond retarded that you keep saying this.

1) The Texans could not have stopped the Colts from trading with the Bears

2) Always remember the Texans wanted Young and were gifted Stroud by the idiot Panthers.

[TheMugwump]

I'm not there yet, but he's not been encouraging. The occasional pretty deep pass is great... But who gives a shit if we can't make the basic throws and decisions.

Still early

How shitty was Peyton after only six starts? How about Josh Allen? Troy Aikman?

AR is younger and less experienced than any of them by this time in his career. He'll be fine.

[Colts And Orioles]

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This back-and-forth with the INT's by both teams to stop respective scoring drives reminds me of Larry Holmes and Ken Norton slugging it out for 15 rounds, in June of 1978.





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[ChoppedWood]

That cut----- holy shit that was crazy!

[TheMugwump]

Great footwork there by JT.

[Dam8610]

Td jt!

[WaynesWorld87]

JT is still so fucking special.

Good bounce back drive by the offense.

[TheMugwump]

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This back-and-forth with the INT's by both teams to stop respective scoring drives reminds me of Larry Holmes and Ken Norton slugging it out for 15 rounds, in June of 1978.





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Jeez C&O...sometimes you need to slow your brain down. LOL

[Chromeburn]

How shitty was Peyton after only six starts? How about Josh Allen? Troy Aikman?

AR is younger and less experienced than any of them by this time in his career. He'll be fine.

Peyton was pretty bad. Remember all the ppl predicting he was a bust?

[Spike]

JT with the TD! Yeah, JT running the ball is a good idea.

[Dam8610]

3 play 1 minute drive still concerning. TOP isn't as bad this game but still bad.

[ChaosTheory]

How shitty was Peyton after only six starts? How about Josh Allen? Troy Aikman?

AR is younger and less experienced than any of them by this time in his career. He'll be fine.

For sure. That's why I say I'm not there yet. Josh Allen specifically had issues until year three.

[CletusPyle]

1) The Texans could not have stopped the Colts from trading with the Bears

2) Always remember the Texans wanted Young and we're gifted Stroud by the idiot Panthers.

I don't know if we could have outbid Carolina (or would've done it) but I will always give you credit for recognizing Stroud was worth the price. AR is probably 2nd best but that isn't saying much at the moment!

[Colts And Orioles]

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It's bad enough that this sounds like a home game for the Bears ...... so the least the Colts can do is send those fuckers home to Illinois with a loss, and spare the Colts fans that are at the game the embarrassment and humiliation of seeing smug Bears fans celebrate in their stadium.

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[Chromeburn]

That’s how you alleviate the pressure on a young QB. Do t make him think it’s all on him, that he has to do everything. He will relax

[Dam8610]

Peyton was pretty bad. Remember all the ppl predicting he was a bust?

I'll admit I was very young in 98, did Peyton ever throw an INT into triple coverage when he had a wide open TD next to it as a rookie?

[Colts And Orioles]

Jeez, C&O ...... sometimes you need to slow your brain down. LOL





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I can't help it ...... I'm just naturally a dick sometimes.

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[Dam8610]

I don't know if we could have outbid Carolina (or would've done it) but I will always give you credit for recognizing Stroud was worth the price. AR is probably 2nd best but that isn't saying much at the moment!

Absolutely could've, would've is a skill issue.

[nate505]

How shitty was Peyton after only six starts? How about Josh Allen? Troy Aikman?

AR is younger and less experienced than any of them by this time in his career. He'll be fine.

Can we at least give the guy a year before writing him off?

[Chromeburn]

I'll admit I was very young in 98, did Peyton ever throw an INT into triple coverage when he had a wide open TD next to it as a rookie?

He made horrible decisions that first year. Double coverage triple coverage, didn’t care. Really in his first three he had a lot of int’s. He just threw out of it. He would say the only way out of a slump is to ride it out and keep slinging it.

[Hoopsdoc]

1) The Texans could not have stopped the Colts from trading with the Bears

2) Always remember the Texans wanted Young and were gifted Stroud by the idiot Panthers.

You dumbass, the Bears traded to the top spot because they wanted Williams. They weren’t going to trade back and miss their guy after they gave all that up to get up there.

It’s so fucking stupid that you keep saying this shit. It makes you look retarded.

I get that you wanted Stroud and you want to blame Ballard for not getting him. But no GM in NFL history could have pulled that off. Vince Fucking Lombardi couldn’t have done that.

[Dam8610]

He made horrible decisions that first year. D oline coverage triple coverage, didn’t care. Really in his first three he had a lot of int’s. He just threw out of it. He would say the only way out of a slump is to ride it out and keep slinging it.

I hope you're right. The question is how long of a leash will they give him to do that? Bryce got 18 games.

[Colts And Orioles]

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We're more thank halfway through the 2nd quarter, and the Bears have 0 points on the scoreboard ...... the Colts' defense is finding a way to get it done so far, however haphazardly.

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[ChaosTheory]

You dumbass, the Bears traded to the top spot because they wanted Williams. They weren’t going to trade back and miss their guy after they gave all that up to get up there.

It’s so fucking stupid that you keep saying this shit. It makes you look retarded.

I get that you wanted Stroud and you want to blame Ballard for not getting him. But no GM in NFL history could have pulled that off. Vince Fucking Lombardi couldn’t have done that.

Bears traded back to 9 with the Panthers. Colts had #4.

[rm1369]

I hope you're right. The question is how long of a leash will they give him to do that? Bryce got 18 games.

AR has already been significantly better than Young.

[nate505]

An enjoyable TY Hilton sighting.

[TheMugwump]

For sure. That's why I say I'm not there yet. Josh Allen specifically had issues until year three.

Josh had a lot of the SAME issues until year three. Plus he only had 25 college starts, so it took a while to get there.

Sounds like our guy, but AR had even less college experience.

[nate505]

Jaylon Jones has been a force out there

[TheMugwump]

I'll admit I was very young in 98, did Peyton ever throw an INT into triple coverage when he had a wide open TD next to it as a rookie?

Maybe.

He absolutely did it as a veteran.

[Dam8610]

You dumbass, the Bears traded to the top spot because they wanted Williams. They weren’t going to trade back and miss their guy after they gave all that up to get up there.

It’s so fucking stupid that you keep saying this shit. It makes you look retarded.

I get that you wanted Stroud and you want to blame Ballard for not getting him. But no GM in NFL history could have pulled that off. Vince Fucking Lombardi couldn’t have done that.

You're the idiot. The Bears didn't trade to #1 last year, they got the #1 pick because they traded with Carolina in the 2023 draft. The Colts could've made a similar trade and gotten CJ Stroud, they had a more valuable asset in the 2023 draft in the #4 pick vs. Carolina's #9 pick. If Ballard really wanted #1, he could've swung the deal. It likely would've cost Pittman, but oh well, you don't worry about things like that when trading for a franchise QB.

[Chromeburn]

I hope you're right. The question is how long of a leash will they give him to do that? Bryce got 18 games.

Gil Brant and Bill Parcells said you need 24 games to evaluate a QB. I don’t know how long you give him. But I think two seasons for such a young raw guy is fair. If he shows improvement then keep playing him. Allen took theee season but you saw flashes.you commit to him, follow through.

I do know teams that have no patience and cycle through QB then coach then front office over and over are on a repetitive cycle of losing.

[nate505]

Make a fucking tackle, for chrissakes.

[Colts And Orioles]

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Peyton Manning and Dan Marino may be the only QB's ever who could throw into triple-coverage and still thread the needle in between those 3 defenders to complete the pass.

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[TheMugwump]

I'm starting to wonder about the Colts strength and conditioning coach. Both lines have spent the season being pushed backwards.

Do they not have a squat rack in the facility?

[Dam8610]

Gil Brant and Bill Parcells said you need 24 games to evaluate a QB. I don’t know how long you give him. But I think two seasons for such a young raw guy is fair. If he shows improvement then keep playing him. Allen took theee season but you saw flashes.you commit to him, follow through.

I do know teams that have no patience and cycle through QB then coach then front office over and over are on a repetitive cycle of losing.

I'm not advocating to be like the Panthers or Jets, but I want to see improvement from AR. It seems like he's regressed thus far this season. Every throw is high, and he makes bad reads.

[Racehorse]

You dumbass, the Bears traded to the top spot because they wanted Williams. They weren’t going to trade back and miss their guy after they gave all that up to get up there.

It’s so fucking stupid that you keep saying this shit. It makes you look retarded.

I get that you wanted Stroud and you want to blame Ballard for not getting him. But no GM in NFL history could have pulled that off. Vince Fucking Lombardi couldn’t have done that.

??? What year are you talking about?

[ChoppedWood]

Great defensive stand- albeit aided by Matt Steichen going option at the goal line for no good reason!

[TheMugwump]

Nice stand, D. Who saw THAT coming after last week?

[WaynesWorld87]

What a fucking goal line stand!

Dumbass play call by the Bears on 4th down, but our defense was stout as fuck on 1st-3rd downs.

[Dam8610]

Great stop by the D.

[Colts And Orioles]

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We're more thank halfway through the 2nd quarter, and the Bears have 0 points on the scoreboard ...... the Colts' defense is finding a way to get it done so far, however haphazardly.

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Yeah !!!

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[nate505]

Fuck yes, great goal line stand there.

[Spike]

Great goal line stand.


Awesome.

[TheMugwump]

Great defensive stand- albeit aided by Matt Steichen going option at the goal line for no good reason!

Classic! LOL

[Dam8610]

??? What year are you talking about?

I think he confused how events happened. His position makes no logical sense otherwise.

[Spike]

Bears coaching staff sucks.

[Colts And Orioles]

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A goal-line stand, just like the ones that were led by ones led by l Clint Session l against the Ravens in the 2009 regular season, and against the Saints in the 2009 Super Bowl. ) :cool:

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[nate505]

Fries was literally less than worthless on that play.

[Hoopsdoc]

That was a pathetic pass. Good grief.

[Dam8610]

High again.

[TheMugwump]

That missing high will get fixed. Looks like it's his footwork.

[ChaosTheory]

That right there. Wtf?

[IndyNorm]

I'll admit I was very young in 98, did Peyton ever throw an INT into triple coverage when he had a wide open TD next to it as a rookie?

I'm sure he did some things similar as Peyton made some REALLY bad decisions early in his rookie year. The light really didn't start going on until week 7 against the 9ers.

[nate505]

That's the horrible part of AR's game he really needs to fix. How is he constantly throwing balls so high? That wasn't even close unless Downs was like 12 feet high.

[Spike]

Damn AR, gotta make those layups

[ChaosTheory]

I'm sure he did some things similar as Peyton made some REALLY bad decisions early in his rookie year. The light really didn't start going on until week 7 against the 9ers.

But manning never threw a five yard out to an open receiver all the way to the second row.

[IndyNorm]

Holy fuck AR. That was horrible.

[Dam8610]

That missing high will get fixed. Looks like it's his footwork.

That's why it's concerning. Why haven't they fixed it if it's his footwork? Also, watching that throw on the replay, he pointed his front foot to the right spot (pointing at Downs), he just overthrew it.

[Chromeburn]

But manning never threw a five yard out to an open receiver all the way to the second row.

Not to the second row. But he missed layups too.

[nate505]

Steichen should take a bit of heat for that play call. He knows he has a QB who is constantly missing, and in that situation you don't want an incomplete pass.

Either run via Taylor or Richardson there.

[Hoopsdoc]

Where are the RPO’s on offense?

[IndyNorm]

That's why it's concerning. Why haven't they fixed it if it's his footwork? Also, watching that throw on the replay, he pointed his foot to the right spot, he just overthrew it.

It is concerning that it looks like the coaching staff hasn't been working w/ him at all on his fundamentals, or AR just doesn't get it.

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The last time that the Colts shut a team out was in 2021, against the Texans.


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[Chromeburn]

That's why it's concerning. Why haven't they fixed it if it's his footwork? Also, watching that throw on the replay, he pointed his foot to the right spot, he just overthrew it.

Hard to work on your throwing when you need to rehab your shoulder.

[TheMugwump]

That's why it's concerning. Why haven't they fixed it if it's his footwork? Also, watching that throw on the replay, he pointed his foot to the right spot, he just overthrew it.

I would counter with this: He ONLY misses high. He doesn't have a lot of other issues to fix. That is certainly something that they need to work on, and they will, but it's one thing, not ten.

[Hoopsdoc]

Also, Latu is having himself a game.

[ChaosTheory]

Not to the second row. But he missed layups too.

Sure, but jitters or being amped up is one thing. Seems like 70% of ARs throws are high, even if complete.

His good throws are difficult to catch, his bad throws are to the moon.

Not throwing the towel in on him, but shit.

[Dam8610]

Hard to work on your throwing when you need to rehab your shoulder.

The shoulder was healed by the beginning of the year. That also doesn't stop him from working on his footwork. Just don't move the shoulder when you complete the footwork part.

[TheMugwump]

Great head's up there by the Colts DB's. Moore catches that and if no one is paying attention, he takes one step into the end zone. They were on him quick.

[Spike]

Damn, better lucky than good sometimes

[Hoopsdoc]

Sure, but jitters or being amped up is one thing. Seems like 70% of ARs throws are high, even if complete.

His good throws are difficult to catch, his bad throws are to the moon.

Not throwing the towel in on him, but shit.

Again, where is the run heavy offense with occasional deep shots that was so successful last year?

I feel like Steichen is trying to force a square peg into a round hole.

He’s trying to make AR be something that he’s not right now.

[Chromeburn]

I would counter with this: He ONLY misses high. He doesn't have a lot of other issues to fix. That is certainly something that they need to work on, and they will, but it's one thing, not ten.

It’s actually common for strong arm guys. They will not emphasize fundamentals enough because they can power through the throws even when off base. Bad coaching lets it go. Florida didn’t have a QB coach when he was there. So when he really needs it they need to breakdown bad habits. He just needs to follow through and make sure his front foot is pointing at the receiver. It will take time. Off-season work.

[Chromeburn]

Damn, better lucky than good sometimes

My dad says that about football all the time.

[IndyNorm]

It’s actually common for strong arm guys. They will not emphasize fundamentals enough because they can power through the throws even when off base. Bad coaching lets it go. Florida didn’t have a QB coach when he was there. So when he really needs it they need to breakdown bad habits. He just needs to follow through and make sure his front foot is pointing at the receiver. It will take time. Off-season work.

Did FL really not have QB coach, or did they have a really shitty one? Hard to believe that a top flight SEC team (at least historically) wouldn't have a QB coach.

[Chromeburn]

The shoulder was healed by the beginning of the year. That also doesn't stop him from working on his footwork. Just don't move the shoulder when you complete the footwork part.

It really needs to be in tandem to develop that muscle memory bc your footwork is different for different distances.

[TheMugwump]

Josh Allen rookie year lowlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YvsJ7piPPc

Peyton Manning rookie year TDs and Ints: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQhuk4C2J9Y

Yeah. Peyton threw into triple coverage his rookie year...

[Dam8610]

I would counter with this: He ONLY misses high. He doesn't have a lot of other issues to fix. That is certainly something that they need to work on, and they will, but it's one thing, not ten.

Three things.

1) High misses

2) Bad reads

3) Hero ball

Those are all fixable, but they're also all the issues that caused Carson Wentz to fail.

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(THE COLTS' DEFENSE, 1st Half)



Possessions: lllllllllllllllllllllllllll. 6




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INT's: lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllt 1

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Missed FG's: lllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 1 ) (56-yard attempt)

Turnover on Downs: llllllllll, 1

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[Dam8610]

It really needs to be in tandem to develop that muscle memory bc your footwork is different for different distances.

He could've been working on it since January at least.

[Chromeburn]

Did FL really not have QB coach, or did they have a really shitty one? Hard to believe that a top flight SEC team (at least historically) wouldn't have a QB coach.

They did not have one at the time. It was one of the reasons he decided to leave early. With the practice time limitations in college and lack of coaching. He was just going to receive better coaching and more time in the pros.plus their offense was a bit of a mess.

[Dewey 5]

That shit needs to stop. That is horrible by Richardson.

[Chromeburn]

He could've been working on it since January at least.

I’m sure he was at times. But remember he was on a throw count in practices before camp. And even at camp he even sat down a couple days bc his arm needed rest they thought. He didn’t have a offseason he normally would have sans injury on that shoulder.

[TheMugwump]

Bad footwork there again. Strong armed guy not using technique.

[nate505]

Wow...that was also horrible by Richardson.

This game has been really, really bad for him.

[Dewey 5]

Bad footwork there again. Strong armed guy not using technique.

Bad everything.

[IndyNorm]

JFC. Time to bench AR.

[TheMugwump]

Versus Williams who has fantastic footwork and balance.

[TheMugwump]

JFC. Time to bench AR.

That's the worst thing to do. He needs the experience, and that won't happen on the bench.

[Hoopsdoc]

That may have been the worst throw I’ve ever seen an NFL quarterback make.

[IndyNorm]

That's the worst thing to do. He needs the experience, and that won't happen on the bench.

I dunno. Giving him a hug and telling him it's ok every time he air mails one to the other team obviously isn't working either.

[Hoopsdoc]

That's the worst thing to do. He needs the experience, and that won't happen on the bench.

Right.

Can’t bench him. Go back to basics. Run the fucking ball.

[CletusPyle]

Bad footwork there again. Strong armed guy not using technique.

You called it earlier....very Wentz-like! Lots of talent, strong arm, no touch and doesn't make good decisions! The upside is he is still young and has time to learn. I ask in another thread, is Cam Turner a good QB coach, nobody anwered, if not or if he is just average that needs to be fixed, bring in Curt Warner nd let him work with AR!

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We're more thank halfway through the 2nd quarter, and the Bears have 0 points on the scoreboard ...... the Colts' defense is finding a way to get it done so far, however haphazardly.

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Richardson and the Colts' offense is putting a lot on the defense ...... that's 3 points off of a turnover near mid-field.

That said, it's a team game, and the defense's job is to bail out the offense when they are off, just like it's the offense's job to bail out the defense when they are off.

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[ChaosTheory]

Nah, keep playing. Not getting better on the bench. Sink or swim.

[nate505]

That's the worst thing to do. He needs the experience, and that won't happen on the bench.

Yeah, this is an AR development year. It can suck at times, but so it goes.

[TheMugwump]

Just to go back to the topic one more time. Peyton had thrown nine interceptions and only two TD by halftime of his fourth game.

Based on comments in here, some of you would have benched the greatest QB in league history because he couldn't win right out of the gate.

[IndyNorm]

Silver lining is AR is definitely on pace to break Peyton's franchise record for INTs in a season.

[nate505]

What the fucking hell...two false starts in a row?

[Spike]

2 false starts in a row, how fucking ridiculous. This team is undisciplined as hell. Coaching needs to step up their game.

[Dewey 5]

He never ever sets his feet. His mechanics need serious work.

[nate505]

Damn, the drive had a tiny bit of promise after the two horrible penalties, but Taylor can only catch a perfect pass.

[CletusPyle]

Silver lining is AR is definitely on pace to break Peyton's franchise record for INTs in a season.

Is that Peyton pr Paintin' :D

[TheMugwump]

That is why Taylor wasn't on the field in the fourth quarter last week.

[IndyNorm]

Well at least AR didn't throw that lay up into the 2nd row :cool:

[CletusPyle]

Damn, the drive had a tiny bit of promise after the two horrible penalties, but Taylor can only catch a perfect pass.

He won't be getting that from Anthony any time soon....
:eek:

[Chromeburn]

Right.

Can’t bench him. Go back to basics. Run the fucking ball.

0 runs that possession

[IndyNorm]

That is why Taylor wasn't on the field in the fourth quarter last week.

Maybe JT should have had that, but that was a bad throw too.

[Indystu2]

That is why Taylor wasn't on the field in the fourth quarter last week.

Yup, and how did that work out for us?

[Spike]

Damn, we can't even make the easy plays work. That's should have been a first down easy.

[nate505]

Props to the defense. They really came to play today.

It also helps that Williams hasn't been spectacular by any means either.

[TheMugwump]

Yup, and how did that work out for us?

I mean, I know kind of what you mean, but...

what do you mean?

[nate505]

Fucking morons. The risk/reward of going for a block is not worth it at all. Absolutely stupid to call for a punt block. Don't rush it at all.

[Indystu2]

I mean, I know kind of what you mean, but...

what do you mean?

I mean a good way to help a struggling young QB is lean on your stud RB.
Not arguing with you.

[TheMugwump]

Maybe JT should have had that, but that was a bad throw too.

Yup. And the veterans need to step up to help out the 'rookie' QB.

[Hoopsdoc]

So so so bad.

Just comically bad.

Colts so very richly deserve to lose this game.

And they will.

[Chromeburn]

Stupid mistakes

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Fucking morons. The risk/reward of going for a block is not worth it at all. Absolutely stupid to call for a punt-block ...... don't rush it at all.





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I remember when the Colts did that late in the 4th quarter of a playoff game against the Jets, in 2010.

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[TheMugwump]

So so so bad.

Just comically bad.

Colts so very richly deserve to lose this game.

And they will.

IDK, can't you imagine this exact same thing being posted on the Bears board?

It's a race to the bottom.

[nate505]

I can't see if he tipped it or not. Either way, fucking stupid as hell to try a punt block there.

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That really sucks for the Colts' defense, but sometimes you need to go above-and-beyond the call of duty ...... there's going to be times when the defense needs the special teams and the offense to bail them out when they are scuffling.

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[Hoopsdoc]

I told my wife, there’s literally only ONE way they can bail the Bears out here and that’s exactly what they did.

Jesus Tap Dancing Christ.

The ONLY reason the Colts are even in this game is that the Bears are as comically bad as we are.

[CletusPyle]

It may have been tipped but no way they change it!:rolleyes:

[Spike]

Dang, at least the defense showed up today.

We just keep shooting ourselves in the ass.

[nate505]

Honestly I don't think he touched it. Dumb challenge too.

[Colts And Orioles]

JFC. Time to bench AR.











That's the worst thing to do. He needs the experience, and that won't happen on the bench.





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When Peyton Manning was a rookie, the Colts were getting their heads handed to them by the Patriots by a score of 29-0 in the 4th quarter. Peyton Manning asked the Colts' QB coach (Bruce Arians) if he could take him out in the 4th quarter. Arians told Manning that that would be the worst thing that he could do to him, and told Peyton to go out and finish the game. Manning threw a TD-pass to avoid the shutout. Manning later stated that that was a very pivotal moment in his career.

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[CletusPyle]

Gene is a dumbass, hasn't been right all season!

Thanks Caleb, what a knob!:D

[nate505]

Bless you Jalen Jones

[Indystu2]

IDK, can't you imagine this exact same thing being posted on the Bears board?

After that INT, yup!

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That INT was poetic justice, after the referees blew the call on the challenge.

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[Racehorse]

You can see the fingers moved backwards

[ChaosTheory]

His fingers moved back. Steichen was right. That ball was tipped, but whatever

Great INT, defense.

[Spike]

Jaylen Jones to the rescue.