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albany ed
04-28-2024, 08:50 AM
I'd like to read the opinions of all our members.

njcoltfan
04-28-2024, 09:07 AM
I'd like to read the opinions of all our members.

I feel great, finally drafted a stud pass rusher,( a guy I was really hoping they would draft), a receiver that should have been a drafted in the first round, IMO, a tackle in the third round that has a chance to play a role this year, and some depth players. Can't wait for the season to start.

omahacolt
04-28-2024, 09:42 AM
i liked it. 1st for picks were great. not saying they will all play great but i liked the picks.

latu i think is going to be good from the jump

mitchell could be phenomenal but could bust. the talent is there so swinging for the fences in the middle of the 2nd round is fine by me.

maybe our future rg in the 3rd. swing tackle option if not

kelly's replacement in the 4th. can't pay everyone on the line and raimann is due soon.

also really liked the wr/returner gould. that kid just looks quick and i could see him contributing in the offense some early on. drawing up plays to get him in space.

the other guys seem like fine prospects but we will see how it plays out. i think this may be a draft where we look back and a lot of these guys are playing significant roles on the team

IndyNorm
04-28-2024, 09:49 AM
Overall pretty good.

- Latu looks to be a great pick, and if he continues to produce like he did in college will be what our D has needed for a LONG time.

- Mitchell has as high of a ceiling as any WR in the draft, and if he hits it will be an absolute steal.

- Goncalves and Bortolini both look like good picks. A little surprised we spent that high of picks on OL depth this year (especially the 3rd rounder), but Ballard must have really liked both and probably sees them as replacements for Kelly and Fries, and possibly Smith.

- Really like the Carlies pick and interested to see if he can become Cato June 2.0 for us. The rest of our late round picks are a little blah IMO.

As with a lot of others I'm really surprised we didn't do more at CB and S. Hope we don't get burned too bad by that.

Dam8610
04-28-2024, 10:53 AM
Back to back draft classes that feel a lot like the 2003-2004 draft classes. The Colts come away with, in my opinion, 2 of the top 25 players in this class at positions of need, fortify the OL to the point that it is arguably the best and deepest in the league, and pick up a lot of developmental projects in the last 3 rounds that could blossom into impactful starters down the road.

The bottom line is that it all still comes down to Anthony Richardson blossoming into a star, but if he does, we could be talking about two of the best back to back draft classes of all-time.

Hoopsdoc
04-28-2024, 12:16 PM
The only pick I really question is Micah Abraham in the 6th. He just seems to small and to slow to ever be effective in the nfl.

Supposedly he has great instincts and that can make up for a lot but I’ll believe it when I see it.

Dewey 5
04-28-2024, 12:52 PM
The only pick I really question is Micah Abraham in the 6th. He just seems to small and to slow to ever be effective in the nfl.

Supposedly he has great instincts and that can make up for a lot but I’ll believe it when I see it.

I think he's a 4.4 guy which is exactly slow. His dad is Donnie Abraham so the kid while small has solid fundamentals. His cousin is former Colt, Tim Jennings.

apballin
04-28-2024, 02:06 PM
I loved it, didn’t chase any certain players they just let the draft fall to them

I think Latu is one of those guys people will look back and go how did he fall to 15?

And he wears 15, funny how shit works out like that

Mr. Session
04-28-2024, 02:34 PM
Lit.

Pissed I gotta wait till the fall.

YDFL Commish
04-28-2024, 02:51 PM
You know that Dammy and I don't agree on much. But I believe we were both pounding on the table for Latu form the time the draft process began.

The thing is neither of saw him as a Ballard pick. I'm so happy that we were both wrong on that!

I'm not exaggerating when I say that Latu gives me TJ Watt vibes, that's how good I think that he can be.

If you only watch one clip of AD Mitchell, then watch him absolutely torch Terrion Arnold in the Alabama game. When this kid is on his game he's probably the best route runner in the draft. Really fun to watch.

Then Ballard went total BP in the 3rd and 4th rounds to build depth on the O-Line. Huge kudos there.

Then he goes into BP mode again and picks his Terrence Wilkins clone in Gould.

After that I don't even care. Because IMO Ballard nailed it!

Now he just needs to add a FA DB to stabilize the secondary.

ChaosTheory
04-28-2024, 04:04 PM
Latu: Shame on me for hardly considering him. I thought there was no middle ground: either he would go way ahead of us, or teams (Colts included) would let him drop way past us (medical).

We really lucked out that offense went 1-14 (unbelievable). Our DL was waiting for that cherry on top: the alpha rusher. Now it looks absolutely stacked.

Mitchell: Top 5 receiver, 1st-round talent... we not only managed to snag him at #52, but we picked up two more picks in the process. If forget who, but they said there are three WR's in the draft with the "Alpha" tag... Harrison, Nabers, and Mitchell*.

The asterisk is because the first two are already there and Mitchell has the potential. Great gamble to take. I know Ballard defended him hard, which is good. But I am absolutely cautious about this kid concerning his buy-in and team focus. If Wayne and Steichen connect with him, he'll be lights out.

Goncalves: Consider the OL that went ahead of him and what was behind him. I think that's why Ballard moved up to get him (I heard SEA was after him). Dude is Quenton Nelson-big. He's not Nelson-athletic, but it seems his testing was affected by his injury. Plays everywhere which is great short-term for depth and allows an opportunity to graduate into a starting role at a couple of spots.

Botolini: Double down on OL depth. Here's the traits/RAS guy. Seems along the lines of the Raimann, Freeland, Witt method. If he hits, Ryan Kelly decision goes from difficult to simple.

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Still looking more at the rest of the guys. Gould looks promising for returns. Carlies and Simpson compare well to Leonard and Moore as far as measurables. Don't know the other guys yet.

Overall, DL and OL look fucking stacked. Perfectly in line with Ballard and Steichen's inside-out approach. Ballard said pre-draft that he was more concerned with protection for AR than weapons. He also talked about our CB's from '23 to '24 similarly to how he talked about our OL from '22 to '23.

I think the draft reflected that. AR has everything he could ask for. If he falls flat or can't stay healthy, none of this matters. If he shows up, this team will make some serious noise.

ukcolt
04-28-2024, 06:43 PM
I like the players we selected, but do still worry that we passed on Quinyon Mitchell, feel that he could have been a huge difference maker. By that i mean providing a significant upgrade to what we already have at a position. The DE group were not terrible last year, hopefully we make a big jump in pressures on a more consistent basis and that then makes the defensive backs lives that much easier.

Other than the fact that the Colts chose not to find a bona fide starting calibre CB, a starting free safety, and a backup RB, i feel that we addressed all areas of need going into the draft. But i suspect we will be signing a free agent or two in the coming weeks, to fill those potential voids. We already have options there, the cupboard is not bare, but upgrades at those three positions in my opinion are still on the cards.

To me this is as strong a roster as the Colts have had in many years, both from a starter point of a view and overall depth. We could be cutting 2 or 3 draft picks at final roster cut down, and it wouldn't be surprising if we also let go a few draft picks from last year as well.

This roster is still going to be very young, and may need another year to reach their full potential, but i am excited to see what 2024 may bring.

YDFL Commish
04-28-2024, 10:07 PM
This roster is still going to be very young, and may need another year to reach their full potential, but i am excited to see what 2024 may bring.

The future is now! There is no more next years team.

Butter
04-28-2024, 10:36 PM
I like it, improved pass rush and deep threats in the passing game. Preparing to rebuild the line with a few guys nearing the end of careers and ensuring depth. Don't mind the fliers on the LB and Dbs, late and seem like they have potential. Hopefully, we see a vet added to the secondary soon and I think we look competitive.

ukcolt
04-29-2024, 07:20 AM
The future is now! There is no more next years team.

Agree an exciting 2024 should be in store. But do i really think we are Superbowl ready, nah, I think that is asking an awful lot of Richardson, who lets be honest is really still going through his rookie year again. This is a significant growing season with a supporting cast that should enable the Colts to make the Playoffs. If Richardson is all go and is as good as we hope him to be, then yes maybe we are a Superbowl contender.

The AFC South is going to be tough though, Stroud alone makes this really competitive.

sherck
04-29-2024, 08:42 AM
I love our draft class.

Ballard has found his, hopefully, alpha pass rusher whom if he produces will transform the defense. Think T.J. Watt on last year's Colt defense! I know, I know, too early but Latu has twitch!

Another stud pass catching option to go with a WR corps I already liked (MPJ, Pierce and Downs primarily but I also like Montgomery and Dulin) and then bringing in the big uglies at a time that was right.

The Colts have to make decisions on Kelly, Fries and Pinter in 2025. Having their potential replacements in house already makes those discussions easier to have in either re-signing cheaper or letting them walk. I honestly would not be shocked to see one or two higher O-Linemen drafted next season as well. Ballard cannot let Richardson take the kind of punishment that Luck did.

I know it all rides on Richardson's big arm and Taylor's legs but I think this draft helps try to maximize those assets! I love it.

sherck
04-29-2024, 08:51 AM
And, as someone else noted, I also hope that we add a vet CB soon in free agency to help shore up our secondary.

Available:

Xavien Howard, MIA, 31 years old
J.C. Howard, NE, 28 years old
Adoree' Jackson, nYG, 29 years old
Cameron Sutton, DET, 29 years old
Stephon Gilmore, DAL, 33 years old
Patrick Peterson, PIT, 34 years old
Steven Nelson, HOU, 31 years old
Keion Crossen, NYG, 28 years old
K'Waun Williams, DEN, 33 years old
Tre Herndon, JAC, 28 years old
Eli Apple, MIA, 29 years old
Justin Bethel, MIA, 34 years old
Fabian Moreau, DEN, 30 years old
Tre Flowers, ALT, 31 years old

Surely, somewhere in that pile of names is someone whom team leadership thinks can come in and help strengthen our CB corps.

On our roster now:

Kenny Moore, starting nickle CB
Julius Bents, starting outside CB
Chris Lammons,
Dallis Flowers, starting outside CB ?
Darrell Baker Jr
Jaylon Jones, starting outside CB ?
Ameer Speed
Micah Abraham

So, not bare but could use another vet body or two.

CletusPyle
04-29-2024, 09:51 AM
I don't want to expect too much from Latu, but with what he has been through and for him to come back so successfully, this is the leader this team has been missing on defense! His leadership abilities may be as important as his performance on the field! We all know this is going to be a potent offense, if the defense can be top 10 we are going to win a lot of games!

Dam8610
04-29-2024, 09:54 AM
And, as someone else noted, I also hope that we add a vet CB soon in free agency to help shore up our secondary.

Available:

Xavien Howard, MIA, 31 years old
J.C. Howard, NE, 28 years old
Adoree' Jackson, nYG, 29 years old
Cameron Sutton, DET, 29 years old
Stephon Gilmore, DAL, 33 years old
Patrick Peterson, PIT, 34 years old
Steven Nelson, HOU, 31 years old
Keion Crossen, NYG, 28 years old
K'Waun Williams, DEN, 33 years old
Tre Herndon, JAC, 28 years old
Eli Apple, MIA, 29 years old
Justin Bethel, MIA, 34 years old
Fabian Moreau, DEN, 30 years old
Tre Flowers, ALT, 31 years old

Surely, somewhere in that pile of names is someone whom team leadership thinks can come in and help strengthen our CB corps.

On our roster now:

Kenny Moore, starting nickle CB
Julius Bents, starting outside CB
Chris Lammons,
Dallis Flowers, starting outside CB ?
Darrell Baker Jr
Jaylon Jones, starting outside CB ?
Ameer Speed
Micah Abraham

So, not bare but could use another vet body or two.

Jaylin Simpson will likely be a CB for the Colts as well. I don't know that any of those veterans will add anything to the Colts CB room because they're all more name than on field production at this point.

rm1369
04-29-2024, 10:30 AM
Very happy with the draft - especially first 4 picks.

I didn’t expect Latu to be a Ballard option. I love that he’s different than the typical Ballard traits heavy pick at the position. Getting the best pass rusher in a draft is pretty much always a good move.

Mitchel is a high ceiling good value pick at a position of need.

Getting OL depth is always good. Having options with the upcoming decisions on the OL is great.

As others have said, I’d like to see a vet or two in the secondary. Ballard has faith in the young guys they have, but he needs to give the coaching staff some options and give the young guys some competition.

DragonTails
04-29-2024, 11:05 AM
None of this will matter if AR is still made of glass. It will be exciting to see the offense if he's out there with some young WRs.

At least Minshew is gone.

albany ed
04-29-2024, 11:51 AM
None of this will matter if AR is still made of glass. It will be exciting to see the offense if he's out there with some young WRs.

At least Minshew is gone.

Great point. Also, I'm not sure there is enough info on AR to say he's all that. I believe he'll do well, but it's not a given.

BCN#1
04-29-2024, 03:12 PM
Wowza - we might have a replacement Hooker on the team.

Nuttin wrong with Hookers yo!:p:D

Marcus Hooker, DB Youngstown State (*Minicamp Tryout)
-Younger brother of former Colts first round safety Malik Hooker

BCN#1
04-29-2024, 03:18 PM
Jeez! Even taking on a Saluki RB from my old school Southern Illinois University at Carbondale... You Go Saluki!!!!:)

Justin Strong, RB Southern Illinois (*Minicamp Tryout)

Racehorse
04-29-2024, 06:32 PM
And, as someone else noted, I also hope that we add a vet CB soon in free agency to help shore up our secondary.

Available:

Xavien Howard, MIA, 31 years old
J.C. Howard, NE, 28 years old
Adoree' Jackson, nYG, 29 years old
Cameron Sutton, DET, 29 years old
Stephon Gilmore, DAL, 33 years old
Patrick Peterson, PIT, 34 years old
Steven Nelson, HOU, 31 years old
Keion Crossen, NYG, 28 years old
K'Waun Williams, DEN, 33 years old
Tre Herndon, JAC, 28 years old
Eli Apple, MIA, 29 years old
Justin Bethel, MIA, 34 years old
Fabian Moreau, DEN, 30 years old
Tre Flowers, ALT, 31 years old

Surely, somewhere in that pile of names is someone whom team leadership thinks can come in and help strengthen our CB corps.

On our roster now:

Kenny Moore, starting nickle CB
Julius Bents, starting outside CB
Chris Lammons,
Dallis Flowers, starting outside CB ?
Darrell Baker Jr
Jaylon Jones, starting outside CB ?
Ameer Speed
Micah Abraham

So, not bare but could use another vet body or two.
Gotta get a replacement for Baker. He was a disaster when in the game on defense.

YDFL Commish
04-29-2024, 06:54 PM
Gotta get a replacement for Baker. He was a disaster when in the game on defense.

I don't see how Baker makes the team.

HoosierinFL
04-30-2024, 04:10 PM
All I know is that it will be interesting if we really got a steal in both Latu and Mitchell - 2 guys who might have gone top 10 in a different draft, and with different personal histories.
It may be a gamble, but they both might be pro-bowlers.

The rest I thought were generally pretty good picks esp the OL and likely that returner.

Dam8610
04-30-2024, 06:12 PM
Gotta get a replacement for Baker. He was a disaster when in the game on defense.

One of Simpson or Abraham will do that. Both are slot types, and I think both make the team as currently constructed.