2024 NFL Draft thread - Day 2 discussion - Rounds 2 and 3

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Round 2 starts at 7 Eastern / 6 Central.


Announcers:

ESPN: Mike Greenberg, Mel Kiper Jr., Louis Riddick, Booger McFarland, Adam Schefter, Molly McGrath

ABC: Rece Davis, Kirk Herbstreit, Desmond Howard, Nick Saban, Field Yates, Laura Rutledge, Pete Thamel

NFL Network: Rich Eisen, Daniel Jeremiah, Charles Davis, Joel Klatt, Peter Schrager, Ian Rapoport, Kaylee Hartung

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Zaire Franklin will be announcing the Colts picks for Round 2 and Round 3.

[Dam8610]

Never would've thought Cooper DeJean, Kool-Aid McKinstry, and Johnny Newton would be Round 2 options. I hope the Colts get one of those three. Would also be happy with Adonai Mitchell, Edgerrin Cooper, or Payton Wilson.

[omahacolt]

is this thread official?

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

is this thread official?


The draft day threads haven't been "official" for years:


2019 - http://coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72263

2020 - http://coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100067

2021 - http://coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121775

2022 - http://coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143098

2023 - http://coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=161319

[YDFL Commish]

A lot of good players at positions of need are left in round 2.

Cooper DeJean, Ladd McConkey, Adonai Mitchell, Roman Wilson, Max Melton, Tyler Nubin, Cole Bishop.

To get DeJean, McConkey and Mitchell Ballard may have to trade up. If he really believes in any one of those players, then he should do it.

[Chromeburn]

Never would've thought Cooper DeJean, Kool-Aid McKinstry, and Johnny Newton would be Round 2 options. I hope the Colts get one of those three. Would also be happy with Adonai Mitchell, Edgerrin Cooper, or Payton Wilson.

They’ll have to trade up. Those guys are gonna off the board.

[ChaosTheory]

A lot of good players at positions of need are left in round 2.

Cooper DeJean, Ladd McConkey, Adonai Mitchell, Roman Wilson, Max Melton, Tyler Nubin, Cole Bishop.

To get DeJean, McConkey and Mitchell Ballard may have to trade up. If he really believes in any one of those players, then he should do it.

They’ll have to trade up. Those guys are gonna off the board.

Now that my Harrison fantasy is dead... my new (less) irrational desire is to trade up and get DeJean.

[Hoopsdoc]

If McKinstry is the bpa I hope they take him but damn is that an annoying name.

On the plus side, he shouldn’t have any trouble getting an endorsement deal.

[TheMugwump]

What do we know (outside of the regular ESPN babble) about TJ Tampa from Iowa State?

[YDFL Commish]

What do we know (outside of the regular ESPN babble) about TJ Tampa from Iowa State?

Dammy like him.

[Dam8610]

Dammy like him.

He's alright, fits Bradley's profile. I'd rather have DeJean, Newton, or one of the LBs.

[omahacolt]

The draft day threads haven't been "official" for years:


2019 - http://coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72263

2020 - http://coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100067

2021 - http://coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121775

2022 - http://coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143098

2023 - http://coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=161319
I think maybe that needs to change

I get more excited to read opinions from official threads

[CletusPyle]

Now that my Harrison fantasy is dead... my new (less) irrational desire is to trade up and get DeJean.

I’ll be very disappointed if Ballard doesn’t try to move up….DeJean would be a game changer, he will go quickly!

[IndyNorm]

I'd like to see us trade up for DeJean as well. Although that means we would likely have to strike gold on a WR in day 3 since I would assume it will take at least our 3rd rounder to move up to get DeJean :cool:

[YDFL Commish]

I'd like to see us trade up for DeJean as well. Although that means we would likely have to strike gold on a WR in day 3 since I would assume it will take at least our 3rd rounder to move up to get DeJean :cool:

Not if we trade 2025 2nd or 3rd.

[IndyNorm]

Not if we trade 2025 2nd or 3rd.

True, and it might take next year's 2nd if Ballard doesn't want to offer this year's 3rd.

[Racehorse]

Time to see some picks

[YDFL Commish]

Apparently Mitchell is a headcase... I hope the Bills take him.

[Chromeburn]

So some guys that have been flagged by teams apparently

Ladd Mconkey - Knee issue
Tvondre Sweat - Lifestyle, likes to party. Says those days are over now.
AD Michell - Medical concern. Diabetes. His behavior is erratic when not on it.


Sleeper pick could be Javon Bullard. Ballard has said he has been impressed how smart Georgia players are.

[Racehorse]

I don't think I know this Rut Roh Raggy player that just got picked

[YDFL Commish]

I don't think I know this Rut Roh Raggy player that just got picked

We didn't want him anyway.

[CletusPyle]

You know the Tits will take DeJean!

[Racehorse]

You know the Tits will take DeJean!

Glad you were wrong.

[Chromeburn]

I don't think I know this Rut Roh Raggy player that just got picked

We want a run on DTs here

[TheMugwump]

Party guy goes to Titans. I'm sure he can get into some late night trouble in Nashville.

[CletusPyle]

What are the fucking Rams up to?

[Chromeburn]

Party guy goes to Titans. I'm sure he can get into some late night trouble in Nashville.

He got a DUI recently I guess. This is a anti Colts run game move.

[Chromeburn]

Kris Jenkins to Rams?

[TheMugwump]

Cool cool cool. Keep the run on DT going.

[ChaosTheory]

Fuck me. Eagles took DeJean after they already took Quinyon Mitchell.

[Chromeburn]

Damn Eagles don't trust them

[CletusPyle]

What is Ballard doing.....trades are being made, why not get in the game?

[Chromeburn]

What is Ballard doing.....trades are being made, why not get in the game?

They like someone is my guess

[TheMugwump]

Eagle secondary is going to be young but very good.

[ChaosTheory]

What is Ballard doing.....trades are being made, why not get in the game?

Teams can only trade down with one. Plus, if teams like the Rams are going to sell a fucking 2nd and a 5th to move up 13 spots in the 2nd... You can't out-crazy some of them.

[Chromeburn]

Teams can only trade down with one. Plus, if teams like the Rams are going to sell a fucking 2nd and a 5th to move up 13 spots in the 2nd... You can't out-crazy some of them.

Rams always say fuck them picks

[CletusPyle]

Cooper seems like a nice kid....too bad he'll have to live in Philly 6 months a year!:D

[YDFL Commish]

At this point I like Roman Wilson or Max Melton.

[ChaosTheory]

Rams always say fuck them picks

Eagles apparently did, too. This year's 2nd, next year's 2nd, and I think the 5th is this year. Again, for like 12-13 spots or whatever.

[Chromeburn]

Colts like Cam HArt I bet.

[nate505]

There's the run on DBs.

[Chromeburn]

Eagles apparently did, too. This year's 2nd, next year's 2nd, and I think the 5th is this year. Again, for like 12-13 spots or whatever.

Jeez that's a lot

[Spike]

Fuck me. Eagles took DeJean after they already took Quinyon Mitchell.

Eagles say Fuck You Cowboys, we're getting better and you're not. Pisses me off for our Colts though. Really liked DeJean.

[Chromeburn]

Edgerrin Cooper? Thats a LB that will fit the D.

Or Sainistril, his measurables are off the charts. Heart of that Michigan defense too.

[YDFL Commish]

Colts like Cam HArt I bet.

In the 3rd.

[Chromeburn]

Corners flying off, MAx Melton I liked for the Colts

[ChaosTheory]

Edgerrin Cooper? Thats a LB that will fit the D.

Or Sainistril, his measurables are off the charts. Heart of that Michigan defense too.

E. Cooper is built almost exactly like EJ Speed. Even longer than Speed, actually.

[Spike]

DB's are getting snatched up fast.

[Spike]

Draft a kicker Raiders.

[Spike]

Good, Raiders took a center/guard.

[ChaosTheory]

Edgerrin Cooper to the Packers.

[Chromeburn]

I knew GB would take him

[ChaosTheory]

Colts trade back with Carolina. Now at 52.

[Chromeburn]

Heres our trade back, get them picks

[Dewey 5]

So Ballard trades back. Naturally

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Colts trade back with Carolina. Now at 52.


Colts trade: pick 46

Panthers trade: picks 52, 142, 155

[Chromeburn]

LOL they traded up for a running back

[Racehorse]

LOL they traded up for a running back

TRich?

[Chromeburn]

Colts trade: pick 46

Panthers trade: picks 52, 142, 155

I'll take that, be some good oline and maybe a DB in that range.

[CletusPyle]

Colts trade: pick 46

Panthers trade: picks 52, 142, 155

Looks like a smart move, he must believe this is a deep draft?

[YDFL Commish]

But who do we want?

[IndyNorm]

Eagles apparently did, too. This year's 2nd, next year's 2nd, and I think the 5th is this year. Again, for like 12-13 spots or whatever.

If DeJean ends up being really good then it's probably worth it.

[TheMugwump]

LOL they traded up for a running back

Yeah, Carolina is a dumpster fire inside of a sinking ship wrapped in a nightmare.

[IndyNorm]

So some guys that have been flagged by teams apparently

Ladd Mconkey - Knee issue
Tvondre Sweat - Lifestyle, likes to party. Says those days are over now.
AD Michell - Medical concern. Diabetes. His behavior is erratic when not on it.


Sleeper pick could be Javon Bullard. Ballard has said he has been impressed how smart Georgia players are.

Surprised it took this long for it come out that Mitchell has diabetes.

[Chromeburn]

Looks like a smart move, he must believe this is a deep draft?

I didn't like the talent in the 2nd all that much when doing mocks. I actually thought there was a good amount of guys in the 4-6 range.

[Chromeburn]

Surprised it took this long for it come out that Mitchell has diabetes.

I heard it a couple weeks ago on NFL radio, just forgot about it.

[Dewey 5]

Adonai Mitchell's RAS score is very high & we all know how important that is to Ballard.

[ChaosTheory]

If DeJean ends up being really good then it's probably worth it.

Yes. It just goes to show the competition in moving up.

[Chromeburn]

Commanders look like a bunch of tightly wound business men

[YDFL Commish]

Adonai Mitchell's RAS score is very high & we all know how important that is to Ballard.

Ballard will not take him.

[Chromeburn]

We might have taken Cooper. I feel like GB is always snaking guys we like.

[CletusPyle]

I'm thinking Mitchell will be the pick....they make insulin pumps, no reason his blood sugar should be uncontrolled!

[Thorgrim]

At this point I'm really hoping for Rakestraw. He'd be an excellent fit and fill our biggest need. A huge argument could be made for Mitchell but Roman Wilson would be nice as well.

[ChaosTheory]

AD Mitchell for the Colts

[YDFL Commish]

AD Mitchell for the Colts

No!

[Chromeburn]

Good value here for Mitchell

[Dewey 5]

Told ya. RAS means everything to CB. Could be a good one

[YDFL Commish]

Who's going to babysit him?

[ChaosTheory]

Good value here for Mitchell

I saw a lot of mocks with him at WR5/WR6 and a first-rounder. So to trade back and still get him was unexpected.

[Dewey 5]

Who's going to babysit him?

Reggie hopefully.

[TheMugwump]

Who's going to babysit him?

A combination of MPJr. and Reggie Wayne.

[Dam8610]

Holy shit this haul is unreal. 2 1st round talents thus far.

[nate505]

What an absolute home run pick for being past 50.

I always roll my eyes at Trade Down Ballard, but hats off to him for getting additional picks and getting a first round talent on top of it.

[Chromeburn]

So what I really like about AD Mitchell is his routes. He is super smooth in his cuts and doesn't seem to slow down when making cuts. PFF guys had him as WR 4-6. Pretty good value. If you ask Texas fans, they will tell you AD was the receiver with the greater potential.

So I'm diabetic and have a pump, he's probably type 1 like me. Type 1 you get it from something else, type 2 are ppl that are overweight. If you input all the information before you eat it will help you manage. But when you work out your sugar goes down. Well when you run, when I lift weights my sugar actually goes up. You would have to be more on top of it during games. If he crashes (goes down) during a game it could take him out anywhere from a possession to even a quarter. But it's different for everyone.

[nate505]

Now go get a DB with that 3rd pick and call it a day.

[YDFL Commish]

So what I really like about AD Mitchell is his routes. He is super smooth in his cuts and doesn't seem to slow down when making cuts. PFF guys had him as WR 4-6. Pretty good value. If you ask Texas fans, they will tell you AD was the receiver with the greater potential.

So I'm diabetic and have a pump, he's probably type 1 like me. Type 1 you get it from something else, type 2 are ppl that are overweight. If you input all the information before you eat it will help you manage. But when you work out your sugar goes down. Well when you run, when I lift weights my sugar actually goes up. You would have to be more on top of it during games. If he crashes (goes down) during a game it could take him out anywhere from a possession to even a quarter. But it's different for everyone.

Great info. But the kid doesn't always keep up with his condition. How can that be controlled?

[ChaosTheory]

he's probably type 1 like me.

Does that mean you run 4.34, too?

Really, though, good insight.

[Hoopsdoc]

Now this is the quintessential Ballard pick.

[Chromeburn]

Great info. But the kid doesn't always keep up with his condition. How can that be controlled?

If your sugar is high you are angry and irritable. If he isn't managing it, which is what they were saying, then it would affect his interviews. Hopefully dropping in the draft sent him a wakeup call, when you're young you think you're invincible and think you can eat anything. Someone will have to sit him down and get it through to him that it's serious. If he manages it, I think he will be fine. You can even drink a little if you're good. If he is surrounded by a good locker room that should help. But they will need to be a little patient with him. But it can be done. Mark Andrews for Balt is a type 1

[Chromeburn]

Does that mean you run 4.34, too?

Really, though, good insight.

Not even when I played. I'm slow as shit.

[Butter]

LOL they traded up for a running back

I member a trade up for a 2n rnd RB that worked out pretty well for another team 5 years ago.

[Chromeburn]

Colts trade up? For a corner?

[ChaosTheory]

They like someone.

[ChaosTheory]

How did we get #86 from Houston?

[nate505]

Tackle. Interesting. Wanted to see a DB, but on the other hand OL depth isn't bad.

[Racehorse]

Never heard of him

[nate505]

How did we get #86 from Houston?

It was from Arizona I think.

[Thorgrim]

What did we trade to move up and not take a corner?

[Butter]

Tackle. Interesting. Wanted to see a DB, but on the other hand OL depth isn't bad.

I don't hate it, Smith is not getting younger and OL depth is crucial.

[Chromeburn]

Never heard of him

Tackle moving to guard maybe. He's a mauler. Likes to run block. He's a 7.7 RAS shocker he's not a 9

We still have 86 too.

[ChaosTheory]

It was from Arizona I think.

We got #79 from ARZ for the OT.

NFL.com shows that #86 got traded from PHI > HOU > IND.

I guess it's wrong?

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

What did we trade to move up and not take a corner?


Colts trade:

Pick 82
Pick 191 (6th Round)

Cardinals trade:

Pick 79

[Thorgrim]

T.J. Tampa would be worthy of trading up for. Don't think he or Cam Hart will still be there in the 4th. Don't want Draine. Brownlee and Richardson are the only other cb's that I'd draft.

[Chromeburn]

T.J. Tampa would be worthy of trading up for. Don't think he or Cam Hart will still be there in the 4th. Don't want Draine. Brownlee and Richardson are the only other cb's that I'd draft.

Cam Hart, Khyree Jackson, Elijah Jones or Decamerion Richardson

[Thorgrim]

Cam Hart, Khyree Jackson, Elijah Jones or Decamerion Richardson

Forgot about Jackson. He'd be a nice pick as well. Still very disappointed we haven't addressed what I believe was our biggest need entering the draft.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Tackle moving to guard maybe. He's a mauler. Likes to run block. He's a 7.7 RAS shocker he's not a 9

We still have 86 too.


Colts probably got their scouting report on him from Charlie Partridge.

[Thorgrim]

Cam Hart, Khyree Jackson, Elijah Jones or Decamerion Richardson

So much for Jones lol

[Chromeburn]

So much for Jones lol

Damn easy come easy go

[Chromeburn]

If anyone wants to draft the later rounds PFN filled in the first three rounds for you and gives you the pool of prospects left.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft

[ChaosTheory]

Ballard got pissed about AD. Dropping F bombs at the presser.

[Chromeburn]

Ballard got pissed about AD. Dropping F bombs at the presser.

Yeah I heard that. Said some of the bad reports were BS and that someone should put their name behind it.

[Dam8610]

Ballard got pissed about AD. Dropping F bombs at the presser.

Do you have a link? I can't find it anywhere.

[ChaosTheory]

Do you have a link? I can't find it anywhere.

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1784054787404902675

See if that works.


**Found a YouTube link in case you can't see Twitter. 2:10 is the rant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtoLejnZ8lM

[Dewey 5]

Do you have a link? I can't find it anywhere.

https://twitter.com/mchappell51/status/1784057371699847606

[IndyNorm]

Tackle moving to guard maybe. He's a mauler. Likes to run block. He's a 7.7 RAS shocker he's not a 9

We still have 86 too.

Guessing his RAS score is from his pro day where he was still recovering from his toe surgery. He said he was 85-90%.

Still kind of surprised we picked him there, especially trading up. Guess Ballard must really like him and thought either the Bungles or Seahawks would take him.

[ukcolt]

If he is viewed as a guard then i believe that his RAS score was much higher.

[Dam8610]

If he is viewed as a guard then i believe that his RAS score was much higher.

Ballard mentioned potential 5 position versatility, but they do seem to view him as a guard.

[CletusPyle]

Ballard got pissed about AD. Dropping F bombs at the presser.

I'm no Ballard fan, but I like seeing him take these gossip whores to task! Stand up for your player, I like the way our team is shaping up, I think we are a contender!