2024 NFL Draft thread - Day 1 discussion - Round 1

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Round 1 starts tonight at 8 Eastern / 7 Central.


Announcers:

ESPN: Mike Greenberg, Mel Kiper Jr., Louis Riddick, Booger McFarland, Adam Schefter, Molly McGrath

ABC: Rece Davis, Kirk Herbstreit, Desmond Howard, Nick Saban, Field Yates, Laura Rutledge, Pete Thamel

NFL Network: Rich Eisen, Daniel Jeremiah, Charles Davis, Joel Klatt, Kurt Warner, Ian Rapoport, Kaylee Hartung

[Racehorse]

Ballard needs to get a real stud with his first pick. I mean he needs a real difference-maker. A stud pass-rusher, a stud pass-catcher. One elite difference-maker puts this team on par with all but one or two teams in the league.

[CletusPyle]

Lots of mock drafts have us getting Bowers, I can live with that! ESPN has us trading up with the Bears to get Bowers!

[albany ed]

Trading up, trading down. I would hope that Ballard explored every option. Whether he really pulls the trigger or not, he should know what's available for every option.

[Chromeburn]

Rumor on nfl radio colts are calling trying to trade up for Brock Bowers. Will probably have to get ahead of the jets. Guess it was a team in the 11-14 range bc they said if he falls out of the top ten.

[ChaosTheory]

Rumor on nfl radio colts are calling trying to trade up for Brock Bowers. Will probably have to get ahead of the jets. Guess it was a team in the 11-14 range bc they said if he falls out of the top ten.

Jets are one of those teams that could go anywhere. They need OL, which is what I've seen most projecting.

But shorter term, Bowers as a new toy for Rodgers is very appealing.

[Dam8610]

The only feasible choice that would upset me is Xavier Worthy at 15.

[Dam8610]

Jets are one of those teams that could go anywhere. They need OL, which is what I've seen most projecting.

But shorter term, Bowers as a new toy for Rodgers is very appealing.

Not if they can't keep him upright.

[Chromeburn]

Jets are one of those teams that could go anywhere. They need OL, which is what I've seen most projecting.

But shorter term, Bowers as a new toy for Rodgers is very appealing.

Both their tackles are 33. They should take a tackle bc it drops off a lot after the first round. Fautanu is dropping bc of character concerns apparently but I bet they take Bowers. Too bad bc the jets is where players go to die. It’ll be a waste there.

[Chromeburn]

The only feasible choice that would upset me is Xavier Worthy at 15.

Doubt they take him at 15. Probably a small trade back. He likely will be gone by the end of the 1st though so can’t trade back too far.

I bet their board is Bowers/BTj/trade back/worthy. If one of the DEs they like is there I would have him as a dark horse.

[ChaosTheory]

Not if they can't keep him upright.

Hey, I'm not saying I would do it. But it's the Jets.

Both their tackles are 33. They should take a tackle bc it drops off a lot after the first round. Fautanu is dropping bc of character concerns apparently but I bet they take Bowers. Too bad bc the jets is where players go to die. It’ll be a waste there

Agreed. Fautanu rumblings upset me. I want all of these guys taken ahead of us.

[apballin]

Doubt they take him at 15. Probably a small trade back. He likely will be gone by the end of the 1st though so can’t trade back too far.

I bet their board is Bowers/BTj/trade back/worthy. If one of the DEs they like is there I would have him as a dark horse.

I agree on the trade back for Worthy

I’m guessing the board looks like

Bowers, Worthy, DeJean, Mitchell

[Dam8610]

Ideally Worthy isn't on the board. Much rather have Pearsall, even in Round 1 with a trade down.

[ChaosTheory]

I agree on the trade back for Worthy

I’m guessing the board looks like

Bowers, Worthy, DeJean, Mitchell

It's weird because overall, I get this feeling that DeJean is really being slept on.

I don't know why I feel that way. Because he's still a projected 1st-rounder and several guys that I usually agree with have him as CB1 in this draft.

[apballin]

It's weird because overall, I get this feeling that DeJean is really being slept on.

I don't know why I feel that way. Because he's still a projected 1st-rounder and several guys that I usually agree with have him as CB1 in this draft.

If he didn’t get hurt, he’d be the top DB in this draft easily

[IndyNorm]

Ballard needs to get a real stud with his first pick. I mean he needs a real difference-maker. A stud pass-rusher, a stud pass-catcher. One elite difference-maker puts this team on par with all but one or two teams in the league.

Well said, and I agree 100%. We have enough good players on our team. What we need is more elite/great players. I just have this concerning feeling that we're going to trade down a bunch and end up w/ a draft similar to 2019. Hope that's not the case.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Several teams are open to trading back from their Top 10 pick:


https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1783621724904259737


After asking around, pretty clear much of the top 10 is at least moderately open for business on a potential trade-back:

3. Patriots: Open
4. Cardinals: Open
5. Chargers: 7-Eleven open
7. Titans: Willing to listen (soft open)
8. Falcons: Open
9. Bears: Open
10. Jets: Soft open

[Racehorse]

Pick already, Bears! Probably trading the pick for Trubisky

[CletusPyle]

Chicago Bears to Justin Fields....Fuck You!:D

[Spike]

Daniels gone, now it's the Patsies, lets hope they fuck it up as usual. They may not BB is gone.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Daniels gone, now it's the Patsies, lets hope they fuck it up as usual. They may not BB is gone.


Three picks. Three QB's.

[Spike]

Poor Drake Maye, he's going to a team devoid of talent. Patsies ain't got shit to help him.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

First non-QB.

Cards take Marvin Harrison Jr.

At least he didn't go to the Cheats.

[Racehorse]

First non-QB.

Cards take Marvin Harrison Jr.

At least he didn't go to the Cheats.

Arizona is one place I couldn't hate to see him go.

[CletusPyle]

I wonder if Ballard even tried to get that pick from Arizona?

[Spike]

Arizona is one place I couldn't hate to see him go.

I agree. Long as it wasn't the Cowboys, Steelers or Patsies.

[Racehorse]

I agree. Long as it wasn't the Cowboys, Steelers or Patsies.

I would add the Raiders, Seahawks, Jags and Titans

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Chargers staying put and not trading.

They take OT Joe Alt.

[IndyNorm]

I wonder if Ballard even tried to get that pick from Arizona?

He probably offered to give them 15 and swap 5th rounders, but when they said no it got too rich for his blood. :cool:

[IndyNorm]

Poor Drake Maye, he's going to a team devoid of talent. Patsies ain't got shit to help him.

Fuck'em. After all of the wins* they got through cheating they deserve to lose every single game from here out.

[IndyNorm]

Come on Ballard. Grow some balls out of your vagina and trade up for Nabers!

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Another WR off the board.

Giants draft Malik Nabers.

[IndyNorm]

At least Nabers isn't going to the Tits :cool:

[ChaosTheory]

Pretty standard mock draft so far.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

At least Nabers isn't going to the Tits :cool:


Tennessee takes a OT instead.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Pretty standard mock draft so far.


The Falcons will probably change that.

[Racehorse]

Penix?????

[ChaosTheory]

No fucking shit.

[nate505]

The Falcons will probably change that.

No kidding, I thought the Donks might take him, but did not expect Pennix to go before JJ, though I like Penix better.

[IndyNorm]

Crazy. ATL probably could have drafted Penix in the 2nd round. Anyway, good for us!!

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Bears stand pat and draft WR Rome Odunze

[Spike]

No kidding, I thought the Donks might take him, but did not expect Pennix to go before JJ, though I like Penix better.

Maybe the Donks will go with Nix or McCarthy, that's more of Payton's type of QB.

[IndyNorm]

Maybe the Donks will go with Nix or McCarthy, that's more of Payton's type of QB.

They just traded for Dam's boy Zach Wilson. No way they draft a QB in the 1st round.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

First trade of the night:


Vikings are getting No. 10 and 203; Jets receive No. 11, 129 and 157.

[nate505]

I'd be happy if they moved up for Bowers, but hell, he might drop to them.

I don't really think he will, but it feels possible at least.

[CletusPyle]

Bears stand pat and draft WR Rome Odunze

Bears are now a contender!

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Vikings take QB JJ McCarthy.


No defensive players drafted yet.

[nate505]

Wow, Turner is all of a sudden a possibility now.

[ChaosTheory]

Good, Jets. Bowers and Mitchell are just sitting there.

[nate505]

So the Colts can at least get Bowers, Turner, Mitchell, Thomas Jr, or Arnold.

I'd be happy with any of them. Though Ballard will probably trade back, sigh.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Good, Jets. Bowers and Mitchell are just sitting there.


Jets add to the O-line and select OT Olu Fashanu

[Spike]

They just traded for Dam's boy Zach Wilson. No way they draft a QB in the 1st round.

There's a lot of talk about it, but who the fuck knows.

[YDFL Commish]

Bowers is Ours?

[ChaosTheory]

6 QB's in the top 12.

[CletusPyle]

Bowers is Ours?

I hope so, but I still think somebody is going to sneak up and take him from us!

[IndyNorm]

I hope so, but I still think somebody is going to sneak up and take him from us!

You're probably right :cool:

[nate505]

Nice, now Bowers, Turner, or Mitchell are guaranteed.

Well, in a math sense anyway

[DragonTails]

Bet it's none of the players mentioned in this thread so far.

[nate505]

I have a feeling the Saints will take a tackle too.

[ChaosTheory]

Holy shit. Bowers to the Raiders.

[IndyNorm]

Bet it's none of the players mentioned in this thread so far.

We'll probably have 3 of those 3 available to draft, but Ballard will still trade down :cool:

[nate505]

Bet it's none of the players mentioned in this thread so far.

Oh I'm sure. Some guy with an unreal RAS score that I've never heard of.

[ChaosTheory]

What an absolute cocktease.

[IndyNorm]

Holy shit. Bowers to the Raiders.

FUCK :mad::mad::mad:

[YDFL Commish]

Quinyon it is then.

[nate505]

Rats, there goes Bowers.

I'll still be happy with Mitchell or Turner.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Holy shit. Bowers to the Raiders.


Of course, have to get Minshew weapons.

[Spike]

Holy shit. Bowers to the Raiders.

Fucking Raiders.

[Racehorse]

A good pass rusher will fall to us. Whodathunk? They usually go quicker.

[TheMugwump]

Bo Nix gets to be the Ken O'Brien of the 2024 NFL Class.

At least he doesn't have to be Todd Blackledge.

And there goes Bowers. They get to choose between Turner and the two CB.

[Butter]

With all the defenders dropping I will be shocked if Ballard doesn't trade back and get more picks.

[IndyNorm]

Bo Nix gets to be the Ken O'Brien of the 2024 NFL Class.

At least he doesn't have to be Todd Blackledge.

And there goes Bowers. They get to choose between Turner and the two CB.

Saying it again, Fuck, fuck, fuckity, fuck!! :mad::mad::mad::mad:

[TheMugwump]

Hell, Ballard could probably trade down and have his choice between Verse, Latu, and Arnold, and still score more picks.

That would be okay to me.

[ChaosTheory]

With all the defenders dropping I will be shocked if Ballard doesn't trade back and get more picks.

Seriously. If they don't trade, then it's safe to say they really like him.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Seriously. If they don't trade, then it's safe to say they really like him.


Or the trade offers were trash.

[ChaosTheory]

Saints go OL. We've got our pick of the litter minus Bowers.

Zero defensive players through 14 picks. Crazy.

[IndyNorm]

Fuck it, take Turner!

[TheMugwump]

Run to the podium and grab Turner.

[nate505]

Please take Turner

[Racehorse]

Commercial time when we are on the clock. Never changes

[DragonTails]

Running the clock out. Trading back

[ChaosTheory]

Colts take Latu.

[YDFL Commish]

But Stricken was on the phone?

[nate505]

I'm not upset with Latu, as long as he is healthy.

[Thorgrim]

Fn bullshit

[YDFL Commish]

Finally a football player...not just an athlete!

[TheMugwump]

The trade offers must have been crap, because they likely could have had him at 21 or 22. And what about Turner or Verse?

Huh...curious.

[Thorgrim]

I really was hoping for a corner. Maybe even trade back and get some capital and get deJean if Arnold and Mitchell were gone. I hope this kid is healthy.

[CletusPyle]

If he can stay healthy...Colts just hit a home run!

[IndyNorm]

Surprised we took him over Turner, but at least we don't have to hear Dam bitch about our pick for the next several months.

[TheMugwump]

Well, if they take the South Carolina WR Leggett in round 2, my mock is spot on,

[Thorgrim]

It will be interesting to see who's available at cb in the second. Maybe Rakestraw or Lassiter?

[nate505]

It seems like the real concern about him is medical, which I get.

As long as they did their homework and there's no red flags, from what I understand his talent and technique is undeniable.

[ChaosTheory]

But Stricken was on the phone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsZXbjIyHzc

These guys are 5-6 mins ahead of the tv guys.

[IndyNorm]

Still really surprised we took him over Turner. But as long as he's medically cleared I'm sure it's fine.

[YDFL Commish]

This guy is hands down the best pass rusher in the draft! I just never thought Ballard had the balls to pull the trigger on him.

[ChaosTheory]

Still really surprised we took him over Turner. But as long as he's medically cleared I'm sure it's fine.

They literally had the entire defensive draft on a platter. Must be good.

[ChaosTheory]

Vikings replace Hunter with Turner.

[Chromeburn]

Colts take Latu.

The best technician imo. Should make an immediate impact.

[Butter]

https://i.redd.it/xa709z5ffqwc1.jpeg

[Chromeburn]

It will be interesting to see who's available at cb in the second. Maybe Rakestraw or Lassiter?

The way the corners are dropping may have a lot of choices.

[Dam8610]

Surprised we took him over Turner, but at least we don't have to hear Dam bitch about our pick for the next several months.

Who could bitch about EDGE1 who looks like Myles Garrett on tape?

[ChaosTheory]

Jaguars struck gold. Big haul to trade down and their projected guys are there.

Don't be DeJean.

[nate505]

I can't believe Mitchell dropped to 22. If Ballard would have traded back and got him there that would have been great, but I'm still not complaining.

[ChaosTheory]

I can't believe Mitchell dropped to 22. If Ballard would have traded back and got him there that would have been great, but I'm still not complaining.

I was literally typing this when the Quinyon pick happened...

Not that I expected it, but the longer it goes, the more reasonable the price to trade up gets if you like a guy.

Ballard gushed about the depth of the draft, though, so they probably stand pat.

[ChaosTheory]

Jags didn't go defense. They got Brian Thomas.

[nate505]

Come on Ballard, trade up for Arnold.

That said, I bet a decent CB will be there for him tomorrow.

[Dam8610]

Come on Ballard, trade up for Arnold.

That said, I bet a decent CB will be there for him tomorrow.

The CBs don't fit the Colts profile. Look for Khyree Jackson or Cam Hart at 82.

[ChaosTheory]

Dallas traded down to the Lions. Looks like Arnold.

[IndyNorm]

They literally had the entire defensive draft on a platter. Must be good.

Lets hope so. I don't exactly trust Ballard when it comes to drafting DEs for obvious reasons. Also, pretty obvious that he wanted to trade down since he went down to the last minute to make the pick.

To be fair Latu was obviously very productive in college, looks to be athletic enough, and also looks to be the most NFL ready of the DEs.

[Dam8610]

Lets hope so. I don't exactly trust Ballard when it comes to drafting DEs for obvious reasons. Also, pretty obvious that he wanted to trade down since he went down to the last minute to make the pick.

To be fair Latu was obviously very productive in college, looks to be athletic enough, and also looks to be the most NFL ready of the DEs.

Latu is the opposite of Paye, he was productive and disruptive in college, had a lot of sacks and a lot of pressures, and if you watch the film you can easily see why.

[apballin]

I love the pick, still can’t believe they had their choice of defensive player at 15 that’s crazy to me

[IndyNorm]

Latu is the opposite of Paye, he was productive and disruptive in college, had a lot of sacks and a lot of pressures, and if you watch the film you can easily see why.

And Paye was probably Ballard's best pick at DE. At least up until hopefully now.

[ChaosTheory]

Latu is the opposite of Paye, he was productive and disruptive in college, had a lot of sacks and a lot of pressures, and if you watch the film you can easily see why.

Yes. Latu is Bradley's LEO, Paye is his Big End.

And he still has Ebukam.

[IndyNorm]

Jags didn't go defense. They got Brian Thomas.

Hate to see the Jagoffs get him, and they picked up 3 more draft picks to boot :cool:

[ChaosTheory]

Hate to see the Jagoffs get him, and they picked up 3 more draft picks to boot :cool:

Hopefully he's as one-dimensional as some people fear. I do think they could've done better... there's still some guys available that I'm very surprised about.

[IndyNorm]

Yes. Latu is Bradley's LEO, Paye is his Big End.

And he still has Ebukam.

Guessing Ebukam might be moving to Big End, especially if we don't exercise Paye's 5th year option.

[ChaosTheory]

Wow, Pearsall to SF at #31.

[nate505]

Lots of good players for tomorrow. Imagine getting someone like Dejuan tomorrow when I wouldn't have been furious with him today (granted, I would have with the same board, but still).

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Ballard indicated that the Colts tried to move up from Pick 15. He said of the teams they contacted, no one wanted to move back to 15.

I do think it was telling that there was only one trade before the Colts selection at 15...with the Jets moving back one spot from 10 to 11. Reportedly there were more teams than just the Colts trying to move up.


https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/status/1783710397360447548

Ballard says the Colts tried to move up with some big offers, couldn't find anybody willing to go down to 15.

[Dam8610]

Wow, Pearsall to SF at #31.

So disappointing, but good for him. Would've been a great Colt.

[Dewey 5]

Ballard indicated that the Colts tried to move up from Pick 15. He said of the teams they contacted, no one wanted to move back to 15.

I do think it was telling that there was only one trade before the Colts selection at 15...with the Jets moving back one spot from 10 to 11. Reportedly there were more teams than just the Colts trying to move up.


https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/status/1783710397360447548

Big offer & Ballard don’t often if ever collide in the same sentence ever. I think Ballard is full of shit.

[ChaosTheory]

Big offer & Ballard don’t often if ever collide in the same sentence ever. I think Ballard is full of shit.

Speaking of...

I nominate the Buffalo Bills fanbase for the most entertaining post-draft suicide watch after trading back twice last night.

In their collective eyes, that front office went from contenders to pussies that aren't trying to win-now. Worried too much about the future.

Fun read.

[Dam8610]

Speaking of...

I nominate the Buffalo Bills fanbase for the most entertaining post-draft suicide watch after trading back twice last night.

In their collective eyes, that front office went from contenders to pussies that aren't trying to win-now. Worried too much about the future.

Fun read.

Really? Not the Falcons?

[Hoopsdoc]

Really? Not the Falcons?

As someone who watched Penix play……..ooof.

[ChaosTheory]

Really? Not the Falcons?

That's a good one, too. The Bills, though, have been Jazz/Knicks to the Chief's Bulls for several years now.

The fact that they traded with KC and gave them Worthy is extra salt. Worthy being the fastest man on Earth makes it even better because all of the surface level, Madden-type Bills fans are having panic attacks.

Of course, if you look at Colts social media... we just spent a first-rounder on a backup.

[Dam8610]

That's a good one, too. The Bills, though, have been Jazz/Knicks to the Chief's Bulls for several years now.

The fact that they traded with KC and gave them Worthy is extra salt. Worthy being the fastest man on Earth makes it even better because all of the surface level, Madden-type Bills fans are having panic attacks.

Of course, if you look at Colts social media... we just spent a first-rounder on a backup.

Nah, Latu is the alpha pass rusher the team lacked.

[nate505]

Of course, if you look at Colts social media... we just spent a first-rounder on a backup.
Good god, what idiots are saying that?

The health concerns may be legit, but are people denying his skill or potential to be great? I have yet to see anyone serious think that if he's perfectly healthy he'll be a bust or is some sort of project. In fact he seems like the anti-project.

[YDFL Commish]

Good god, what idiots are saying that?

The health concerns may be legit, but are people denying his skill or potential to be great? I have yet to see anyone serious think that if he's perfectly healthy he'll be a bust or is some sort of project. In fact he seems like the anti-project.

This post deserves more than one thanks from me!

[IndyNorm]

That's a good one, too. The Bills, though, have been Jazz/Knicks to the Chief's Bulls for several years now.

The fact that they traded with KC and gave them Worthy is extra salt. Worthy being the fastest man on Earth makes it even better because all of the surface level, Madden-type Bills fans are having panic attacks.

Of course, if you look at Colts social media... we just spent a first-rounder on a backup.

Yeah, it's really surprising that the Bills would trade w/ the Chiefs. I know we would have all lost our shit if back in the day we had made a draft day trade w/ the Cheats that looked like it fill a big need for them.