Ogletree Arrested

[IndyNorm]

https://fox59.com/news/indianapolis-colts-tight-end-andrew-ogletree-arrested-in-hendricks-county/

Looks like the dumb fuck beat up his girlfriend :mad:

[Racehorse]

Welp, there goes his future here.

[Brylok]

I will refrain from comments. My God, I will refrain from comments. But I have many. Smh.
In Steichen - only - do I trust.

[Mr. Session]

Young. Probably sleeping around on her. I imagine shit got dramatic. Maybe I'm embellishing things through speculation.

The inability to walk away is what concerns me. Not with him specifically but any man in this scenario. To me, personally, that speaks on a man's character.

Whatever.

[CletusPyle]

Welp, there goes his future here.

He'll make a fine Cleveland Brown......

[apballin]

Von Miller is still playing….

Taking someone’s phone is a criminal offense

These situations are always ugly so I tend to wait for it to play out

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

He'll make a fine Cleveland Brown......


Or Raider....


Or Raven....heck, the Ravens are honoring Mr. DV himself (Ray Rice) this weekend.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/ravens-will-honor-ray-rice-on-sunday

Ravens will honor Ray Rice on Sunday

Ray Rice was once the most toxic name in sports, the embodiment of the NFL’s domestic violence problem, and the last person the league or the Baltimore Ravens wanted to associate with. That has changed.

The Ravens have announced that on Sunday they will honor Rice as their “Legend of the Game,” a game day tradition in Baltimore to recognize a former player for his accomplishments both on and off the field.

But does Rice deserve to be honored? In 2014, he was caught on video punching his then-fiancée, now wife, so hard that he knocked her out, then dragging her unconscious body out of an elevator. After he was arrested for the assault, the NFL initially suspended him just two games, sparking anger — which turned to widespread public outrage when the video became public.

The Ravens cut him and his NFL career was over. So why honor him now?

Rice says honoring him allows him to show that he has changed.

“I truly understand why I was let go and why so many hearts changed. But hopefully people can see where I’m at now. They say people can change, right? I am not the same person I was 10-12 years ago. That’s just not who I am,” Rice told the Ravens’ website. “Every time I stepped on the field, I gave it my all. But I couldn’t say the same for life. Now I’m trying to be the best version of me.”

Ravens President Sashi Brown, who was hired by the Ravens last year and was not with the team during Rice’s career, defended Rice as a man worthy of honoring.

“He was also consistently in the community, giving back. Importantly, after Ray’s incident he owned it,” Brown said. “On his own accord, Ray undertook critical work within himself and to bring awareness to and educate others on domestic violence. Nothing will change his past or make it right, but Ray’s work has allowed him to atone for his actions and rebuild relationships personally and professionally, including with the Ravens.”

Rice’s reception from Ravens fans will likely be mostly positive: Nearly a decade later, fans tend to remember the good times. Plus, the Ravens are honoring Rice at a big game in which the Ravens can clinch home-field advantage throughout the AFC playoffs. Fans in Baltimore will be fired up to cheer their Ravens.

Outside of Baltimore, the reaction may be different, with plenty of questions about why someone who did what Rice did deserves to be treated as a hero.

[Thorgrim]

Young. Probably sleeping around on her. I imagine shit got dramatic. Maybe I'm embellishing things through speculation.

The inability to walk away is what concerns me. Not with him specifically but any man in this scenario. To me, personally, that speaks on a man's character.

Whatever.

You're probably spot on. This is exactly what ended my pro career.

[apballin]

Young. Probably sleeping around on her. I imagine shit got dramatic. Maybe I'm embellishing things through speculation.

The inability to walk away is what concerns me. Not with him specifically but any man in this scenario. To me, personally, that speaks on a man's character.

Whatever.

If you’re getting attacked how do you walk away?

Can’t call the police because your phone is broken

It’s all hypothetical but a stiff arm from him probably feels like a body slam to her

[IndyNorm]

Young. Probably sleeping around on her. I imagine shit got dramatic. Maybe I'm embellishing things through speculation.

The inability to walk away is what concerns me. Not with him specifically but any man in this scenario. To me, personally, that speaks on a man's character.

Whatever.

The article said she broke his phone, so you're speculation that he was cheating on her is probably correct. Guessing she's hardly blameless in the situation, but it's still no excuse for him to lay his hands on her.

Von Miller is still playing….

Taking someone’s phone is a criminal offense

These situations are always ugly so I tend to wait for it to play out

Obviously we should wait to judge, but per the article Ogletree admitted to at least shoving her down. That and the fact that they're holding him w/out bond probably means he's in deep shit.

[IndyNorm]

If you’re getting attacked how do you walk away?

Can’t call the police because your phone is broken

It’s all hypothetical but a stiff arm from him probably feels like a body slam to her

He's probably at least twice her size. No reason why he couldn't have left, went to a friend's place, and called the cops from there instead of shoving/slamming her.

[apballin]

He's probably at least twice her size. No reason why he couldn't have left, went to a friend's place, and called the cops from there instead of shoving/slamming her.

You’ve clearly never had an angry woman confront you about shit in your cell phone. It’s not as easy as you think

Ask Nick Harper

[Mr. Session]

You’ve clearly never had an angry woman confront you about shit in your cell phone. It’s not as easy as you think

Ask Nick Harper

Your perspective is completely valid. I understand where you’re coming from. I’ve been there.

No judgements from me here. I feel like most of the time the facts come out, in time. Perhaps time shows us he’s the victim.

It’s unfortunate he’s in this circumstance. I wouldn’t want that for my son.

[apballin]

Your perspective is completely valid. I understand where you’re coming from. I’ve been there.

No judgements from me here. I feel like most of the time the facts come out, in time. Perhaps time shows us he’s the victim.

It’s unfortunate he’s in this circumstance. I wouldn’t want that for my son.

Definitely sucks all the way around forget football sucks for the kid, his spouse, and him.

I just hate how guys are instantly crucified

[omahacolt]

Young. Probably sleeping around on her. I imagine shit got dramatic. Maybe I'm embellishing things through speculation.

The inability to walk away is what concerns me. Not with him specifically but any man in this scenario. To me, personally, that speaks on a man's character.

Whatever.

lol


why? why just jump to conclusions like this?


i mean odds are he should have been arrested but some bitches are insane.

[nate505]

Fucking moron. Yeah, he might have been provoked, but my guess is he's significantly larger than her. That never works out well.

[apballin]

Fucking moron. Yeah, he might have been provoked, but my guess is he's significantly larger than her. That never works out well.

In the bedroom it does

[Chromeburn]

I’ve seen enough of these that I will wait for it to play out. I will say if someone breaks your stuff and makes you so angry you get violent, you don’t belong together.

[IndyNorm]

You’ve clearly never had an angry woman confront you about shit in your cell phone. It’s not as easy as you think

Ask Nick Harper

I've never been confronted by anything on my phone, but I've been slapped before and walked away from it. Also, I never said that walking away would be easy, but that still doesn't give him any excuse if he is indeed guilty of doing what he's been charged with. Unless of course she did something like stab him (ala Nick Harper's wife), which is obviously on a whole other level than breaking someone's phone and slapping them.

[apballin]

I've never been confronted by anything on my phone, but I've been slapped before and walked away from it. Also, I never said that walking away would be easy, but that still doesn't give him any excuse if he is indeed guilty of doing what he's been charged with. Unless of course she did something like stab him (ala Nick Harper's wife), which is obviously on a whole other level than breaking someone's phone and slapping them.

All I’m saying is an angry woman can be just as aggressive as a LB

Who knows what really happened but let’s be honest if he would’ve wanted to beat the shit out of her I’m sure he’s big enough to destroy her

[IndyNorm]

All I’m saying is an angry woman can be just as aggressive as a LB

Not disagreeing there. But unless she attacks with a weapon where you have to defend yourself from physical harm then there's no excuse in laying your hands on a woman.

Who knows what really happened but let’s be honest if he would’ve wanted to beat the shit out of her I’m sure he’s big enough to destroy her

I hope you're not trying to say that b/c he didn't beat the shit out of her what he did was ok.

[apballin]

Not disagreeing there. But unless she attacks with a weapon where you have to defend yourself from physical harm then there's no excuse in laying your hands on a woman.



I hope you're not trying to say that b/c he didn't beat the shit out of her what he did was ok.

I’m not defending putting hands on a woman at all, to instantly side with the woman saying she was body slammed is what I disagree with.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Update on Ogletree:

https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/status/1765051702409933044

NEWS: All domestic violence charges against Colts TE Drew Ogletree have been dismissed today in Hendricks County, Indiana.

Prosecutors determined there was a lack of sufficient evidence to move forward.

https://twitter.com/RomeovilleKid/status/1765048946039140766

Drew Ogletree remains on the Commissioner Exempt List. A reminder that the NFL is conducting its own investigation, and the Colts can still decide if they’d like to keep Ogletree or cut him.

GM Chris Ballard said he had no update on Ogletree when I asked about him last week.

[Colts And Orioles]

Update on Ogletree:

https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/status/1765051702409933044



https://twitter.com/RomeovilleKid/status/1765048946039140766





o


Dismissed "with prejudice" ...... meaning dismissed permanently ...... the DA cannot change their mind and refile charges again for this specific incident.


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10111780-colts-andrew-ogletree-has-felony-battery-charges-dismissed-with-prejudice


When Ogletree was first arrested, my first inclination was to think that he probably hit her, regardless of whether or not the prosecutor could prove it ...... but because of the manner in which the charges were dismissed, I'm wondering whether or not he hit her at all ...... or at the very least, if she was hit him first, and he retaliated by hitting her back.

o

[Colts And Orioles]

o


There has been some discussion as to whether or not a man should hit a woman if she hits him first, and he is defending himself. If you all would bear with me, I would like to share my own personal story on the matter.

First of all, I would like to say that I believe that each and every case is different, and therefore that what happened with me should not necessarily be taken as a presumption that every other circumstance of domestic violence should be judged accordingly.

In 1991, I was 25 and my girlfriend was 19. We were arguing vehemently. She came toward me with her arm raised, as though she were going to smack me. I was very angry because of whatever it was that we were arguing about, and I kicked my foot towards her. My foot hit her in the stomach, and she groaned, turned around, and fell to the floor. It was one of the worst feelings that I ever had, and to this day I feel great remorse about it. I wasn't worried about her calling the police on me, because I knew that she wouldn't ...... but my feelings of guilt and remorse about what I did was as bad as the anxiety over being worried about getting arrested.


Like I said, just because that was my experience does not necessarily mean that each and every other case of a man hitting a woman after she hit him first should be judged accordingly ...... obviously it's different if she is coming at you with a stake-knife or a hammer, but anything short of something like that, I would highly recommend that you refrain from striking her so as to avoid the guilt and remorse that I still feel about this incident 33 years after the fact.

o

[IndyNorm]

Good news for Ogletree at least. We'll see if the NFL and/or Colts still take action against him.

[ChaosTheory]

Good news for Ogletree at least. We'll see if the NFL and/or Colts still take action against him.

Be kind of a shame if the dude gets raked over the coals by the guilty-until-proven-innocent brigade for three or four months, then gets essentially vindicated by the judicial system...

...but then the league/team still punishes him or bails on him because of pressure from those same types.

[IndyNorm]

Be kind of a shame if the dude gets raked over the coals by the guilty-until-proven-innocent brigade for three or four months, then gets essentially vindicated by the judicial system...

...but then the league/team still punishes him or bails on him because of pressure from those same types.

Don't disagree. My comment was more about reading that the NFL is still conducting their investigation and that he could still be suspended, etc.

[apballin]

I hope he bounces back from this

[omahacolt]

o


There has been some discussion as to whether or not a man should hit a woman if she hits him first, and he is defending himself. If you all would bear with me, I would like to share my own personal story on the matter.

First of all, I would like to say that I believe that each and every case is different, and therefore that what happened with me should not necessarily be taken as a presumption that every other circumstance of domestic violence should be judged accordingly.

In 1991, I was 25 and my girlfriend was 19. We were arguing vehemently. She came toward me with her arm raised, as though she were going to smack me. I was very angry because of whatever it was that we were arguing about, and I kicked my foot towards her. My foot hit her in the stomach, and she groaned, turned around, and fell to the floor. It was one of the worst feelings that I ever had, and to this day I feel great remorse about it. I wasn't worried about her calling the police on me, because I knew that she wouldn't ...... but my feelings of guilt and remorse about what I did was as bad as the anxiety over being worried about getting arrested.


Like I said, just because that was my experience does not necessarily mean that each and every other case of a man hitting a woman after she hit him first should be judged accordingly ...... obviously it's different if she is coming at you with a stake-knife or a hammer, but anything short of something like that, I would highly recommend that you refrain from striking her so as to avoid the guilt and remorse that I still feel about this incident 33 years after the fact.

o

you kicked her in the stomach instead of grabbing her or blocking said smack?

fucking ruthless.

that said, people should have the right to defend themselves. if a tiny, non threating man like dam were to try and smack a normal dude, i wouldn't judge them for beating him down or tossing him away like a napkin. regardless of how weak and fragile he is

[Colts And Orioles]

You kicked her in the stomach instead of grabbing her, or blocking said smack ???

Fucking ruthless.

That said, people should have the right to defend themselves ...... if a tiny, non-threatening man like Dam were to try and smack a normal dude, I wouldn't judge them for beating him down or tossing him away like a napkin, regardless of how weak and fragile he is.





o


I wasn't even defending myself. I knew that she wasn't going to hurt me, but my immature, 25 year-old self allowed myself to just react out of anger.

Additionally, it was late at night, and so because I was already laying down and all relaxed, I took a lazy route of just kicking my foot out at her instead of getting my dumb, selfish ass out of bed and grabbing her, as you suggested.


It was simply one of the most shameful and saddest moments of my life.

o

[Racehorse]

o


I wasn't even defending myself. I knew that she wasn't going to hurt me, but my immature, 25 year-old self allowed myself to just react out of anger.

Additionally, it was late at night, and so because I was already laying down and all relaxed, I took a lazy route of just kicking my foot out at her instead of getting my dumb, selfish ass out of bed and grabbing her, as you suggested.


It was simply one of the most shameful and saddest moments of my life.

oIf we don't learn from our mistakes, we are doomed. Glad you learned.

[apballin]

For what it’s worth… someone posted a photo of Ogletree working out at the Colts facility today

[albany ed]

For what it’s worth… someone posted a photo of Ogletree working out at the Colts facility today

The charges were dismissed. I say, let him return.

[Chromeburn]

The charges were dismissed. I say, let him return.

Shows why fans shouldn't jump to conclusions till the process plays out unless there is definitive evidence such as pummeling your significant other in an elevator.

[ChaosTheory]

The charges were dismissed. I say, let him return.

You shouldn't even have to say. This whole notion of guilt in the eyes of the public because you were accused/charged is bullshit.

[Butter]

You shouldn't even have to say. This whole notion of guilt in the eyes of the public because you were accused/charged is bullshit.

Sure, but conversely, the rich and famous get away with stuff all the time and people get sick of it. It is not a good thing, but it is kind of understandable how the public is kind of sick of the two-tiered justice system.

[ChaosTheory]

Sure, but conversely, the rich and famous get away with stuff all the time and people get sick of it. It is not a good thing, but it is kind of understandable how the public is kind of sick of the two-tiered justice system.

I'm not sure it's understandable. Maybe understandable in that people are petty and dumb. I don't really think one has to do with the other. It's fine to be perturbed by elites getting away with shit when evidence is publicized that leads you to believe some fuckery was going down.

But stuff like Ogletree is just straight up mob mentality that society has. An accusation is all you need to ruin of lot of guys' lives. It sure as fuck isn't just happening to rich guys.

[Chromeburn]

Just fyi for everyon,Ballard was asked by Holder if he was comfortable with everything they found out regarding Ogletree and Ballard said yes, absolutely five with it.

[Hoopsdoc]

Good news. I like Ogletree.

He seems like he’s got some real talent.

[Butter]

Ballard said yes, absolutely five with it.

I for one would feel better if he were more like ten with it.:D