Some weeks are like this.

[Kray007]

I don’t know what it is. Maybe, some weeks, the moon is in the seventh house or Jupiter aligns with Mars; perhaps, from time to time, the football gods just enjoy a good laugh. But, for whatever reason, you wake up on Monday morning, look at scores for Sunday, and scratch your head.

You can’t quite figure out how the Patriots beat Pittsburgh or explain the Bears coming out on top of the Lions. You look at the box score, see that the Jets won against Houston and ask how, in the name of sweet Jehosophat, did they put up a 30 spot?

I mean, you can see the Bills beating KC, but a WR lining up offside???? WTF!!!

And, by the time you notice that Tennessee beat Miami, you’ve almost come to believe that the spirit of Rod Serling is sitting across the table from you and that, somewhere between the bed and your first cup of coffee, you’ve slipped into the Twilight Zone.

The Giants win, even at home, convinces you.

By the time you see that Cincinnati beat the Colts, you’re on the phone with a travel agent, hoping that a last minute trip to Miami will help you avoid running into your bookie and his sidekick Ice Pick Willie.

[Ironshaft]

As far as the Colts game, CIN just wanted it more. Their guys made plays and ours did not.

If we discount the pick-6, we just got throughly outplayed or we were the victim of some questional ref calls. It was just not our game.

[ChaosTheory]

Probably our second worst refereed game, but that's probably not worth 20 points. Of course that's not to downplay the officiating, it was pretty fucking bad. But we just had everything going wrong...

OL had maybe their worst game. Kicker had his worst game. Running into our own punt returner to fumble. Baker was made a fool a few times (again). We missed our four starters, most of all being EJ Speed. Legit penalties on top of the bullshit ones. Etc.

That last gasp drive early in the 4th with the phantom Nelson hold just epitomized the whole day. They march down the field, best they've looked all day, and score a TD... Oh, wait... No, we actually threw an INT way the fuck back at the 31.

[Mr. Session]

I know folks have feelings about the refs and I saw that in the gameday thread but I hardly walked away after that thinking about them.

I was impressed with the Bengals team more than anything. They played hard, disciplined, good football. They were not particularly shitty or chatty either, they just lined up and pushed Indy's shit in.

[Dam8610]

Probably our second worst refereed game, but that's probably not worth 20 points.

Let's see:

Bengals first TD, Illegal block in the back no call on a 50+ yard TD play, worth 7 points favoring CIN.
Leverage call, worth 4 points favoring CIN.
Phantom hold on Nelson, worth 7 points favoring CIN.
Fair catch interference no call, worth 3 points favoring CIN.

21 points of referee calls in favor of the Bengals, plus the final drive, Sam Ehlinger came in and the Colts didn't really try to move the ball.

[Kray007]

Let's see:

Bengals first TD, Illegal block in the back no call on a 50+ yard TD play, worth 7 points favoring CIN.
Leverage call, worth 4 points favoring CIN.
Phantom hold on Nelson, worth 7 points favoring CIN.
Fair catch interference no call, worth 3 points favoring CIN.

21 points of referee calls in favor of the Bengals, plus the final drive, Sam Ehlinger came in and the Colts didn't really try to move the ball.

Toss in 4 more points for easy missed kicks by Gay and another 3 the Bengals scored at the end of the game after the Colts turned it over on downs.

The Colts didn’t outplay them, but it should have been a lot closer.

[Hoopsdoc]

I know folks have feelings about the refs and I saw that in the gameday thread but I hardly walked away after that thinking about them.

I was impressed with the Bengals team more than anything. They played hard, disciplined, good football. They were not particularly shitty or chatty either, they just lined up and pushed Indy's shit in.

That’s how I saw it. Not many teams will beat the Bengals if they play like they did Sunday.

That is a team with a LOT of talent.

The refs were bad but the colts were losing that game either way.

[Dam8610]

Toss in 4 more points for easy missed kicks by Gay and another 3 the Bengals scored at the end of the game after the Colts turned it over on downs.

The Colts didn’t outplay them, but it should have been a lot closer.

I feel like if it was 14-3 Colts at the half, and 21-17 Colts after the long should've been TD drive (maybe less points for the Bengals because they don'thave the confidence of the 2 early TD drives in their favor at that point), the Colts would've had a much better chance of winning the game. Those are the types of games the Colts won on their 4 game win streak.

[Pez]

Let's see:

Bengals first TD, Illegal block in the back no call on a 50+ yard TD play, worth 7 points favoring CIN.
Leverage call, worth 4 points favoring CIN.
Phantom hold on Nelson, worth 7 points favoring CIN.
Fair catch interference no call, worth 3 points favoring CIN.

21 points of referee calls in favor of the Bengals, plus the final drive, Sam Ehlinger came in and the Colts didn't really try to move the ball.

I thought the leverage call was legit. The phantom hold that erased a TD was utterly ridiculous.

I agree 100% that the refs seem to suck more this year than in years previous, but this wasn't like the Browns game where they stole it from us on a single play.

We had a lot of opportunities to stop them from scoring 31.

[Pez]

I know folks have feelings about the refs and I saw that in the gameday thread but I hardly walked away after that thinking about them.

I was impressed with the Bengals team more than anything. They played hard, disciplined, good football. They were not particularly shitty or chatty either, they just lined up and pushed Indy's shit in.

I agree with this too, I watched the entire Cincinnati vs Jacksonville game last week and thought we were going to be in trouble with the Bengals. They are a good football team.

[Pez]

You can’t quite figure out how the Patriots beat Pittsburgh or explain the Bears coming out on top of the Lions. You look at the box score, see that the Jets won against Houston and ask how, in the name of sweet Jehosophat, did they put up a 30 spot?

I mean, you can see the Bills beating KC, but a WR lining up offside???? WTF!!!


With all the upsets - Pittsburgh and Houston especially - it keeps us in the playoffs. Which I don't think we deserve to be. Cincinnati is a Team that can bet the full strength Jages with a second string QB.

We're not. What frustrates me the Most is that with Richardson's injury, he's not getting the reps, and that next year will be what this year should have been. Props to Gardner Minshew, all that, but drat.

[ChaosTheory]

I thought the leverage call was legit. The phantom hold that erased a TD was utterly ridiculous.

I agree 100% that the refs seem to suck more this year than in years previous, but this wasn't like the Browns game where they stole it from us on a single play.

We had a lot of opportunities to stop them from scoring 31.

And that's where I'm coming from. I normally have a hard time blaming officials for losses because you get into this whole butterfly effect where, especially in a game like this where so much beyond the refs was going wrong... there's a bazillion different outcomes that could've been.

Doesn't mean the refs didn't fuck us.

Cleveland was a rare exception for me because it was so egregious and direct at the end.

[Dam8610]

With all the upsets - Pittsburgh and Houston especially - it keeps us in the playoffs. Which I don't think we deserve to be. Cincinnati is a Team that can bet the full strength Jages with a second string QB.

We're not. What frustrates me the Most is that with Richardson's injury, he's not getting the reps, and that next year will be what this year should have been. Props to Gardner Minshew, all that, but drat.

Richardson should still be gaining, growing, and developing right now. He should be doing all the behind the scenes work, film study, understanding game plans, etc. that young QBs do to improve when they're not playing. Mahomes didn't play a snap his rookie year, won NFL MVP his second year, and credits the first year of development for being able to achieve that the second year.

[IndyNorm]

And that's where I'm coming from. I normally have a hard time blaming officials for losses because you get into this whole butterfly effect where, especially in a game like this where so much beyond the refs was going wrong... there's a bazillion different outcomes that could've been.

Doesn't mean the refs didn't fuck us.

Cleveland was a rare exception for me because it was so egregious and direct at the end.

Exactly. Take the block in the back on Kenny for the Bungles first TD. Some posters on here think it's a foregone conclusion that our D stops them if the refs throw the flag there. But it was on first down, so the Bungles would have had the ball at 1st and 20. No guarantee that we stop them.

The only play where the refs absolutely fucked us on the scoreboard was the BS holding call on Q.

[IndyNorm]

I thought the leverage call was legit. The phantom hold that erased a TD was utterly ridiculous.

I agree 100% that the refs seem to suck more this year than in years previous, but this wasn't like the Browns game where they stole it from us on a single play.

We had a lot of opportunities to stop them from scoring 31.

It was. Maybe it doesn't get called that much, but the replay clearly showed that Bryan had his left hand on another players shoulder while he was jumping to try to block the FG which is a penalty.

[Colts And Orioles]

I thought that the leverage call was legit.











It was. Maybe it doesn't get called that much, but the replay clearly showed that Bryan had his left hand on another players shoulder while he was jumping to try to block the FG which is a penalty.




o


Correct.

It is similar to the leaping rule, of which the Colts and Mike Vanderjagt were the beneficiary of in a Monday Night Footballl game against the Buccaneers in October of 2013 ...... it was the right call, even if it was the first time that it was called since the Herbert Hoover administration.

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