Colts Release Leonard

[Coltsalr]

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1727035428803428360?s=42&t=eD_XXnce6RpM2gEfRbtV3w

Wow, show me this headline in 2018.

[Brylok]

Good. He was a shadow of his former self and not worth anywhere near what he was being paid. I think the team will save $54M over the next three years by not having that Leonard contract? Hopefully they'll spend it wisely.

He was a special talent, but that time is past. No big loss.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/1727042110912880966

The Colts owe LB Shaq Leonard $6.1 million over the rest of the season, but this release is likely more about 2024, when he has $6.5 million guaranteed for injury.

Indy was probably cutting Leonard after the year and didn't want to be on the hook if he got hurt.

https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/1727042440962658691

Any team that puts in a waiver claim on Leonard would pay him about $6.1 million for the rest of the year and be subject to that injury guarantee in 2024.

More likely he passes through, which would mean Leonard can pick where he goes for the rest of the season.

[Dam8610]

The money will probably go to Pittman. That makes keeping Blackmon around easier as well. Still wish this had been done in time to keep Okereke.

[Butter]

The money will probably go to Pittman. That makes keeping Blackmon around easier as well. Still wish this had been done in time to keep Okereke.

Agreed, I hated losing him. Now watch Leonard go somewhere and return to form, that would double suck.

[Colts And Orioles]

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I think that Leonard will eventually start playing really well if another team signs him ...... maybe not the first game or 2 that he plays for them, but I think that he will eventually reclaim his status as a force to be reckoned with for opposing offenses.

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[ChoppedWood]

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I think that Leonard will eventually start playing really well if another team signs him ...... maybe not the first game or 2 that he plays for them, but I think that he will eventually reclaim his status as a force to be reckoned with for opposing offenses.

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For him, I would like to see it. I always liked him and I do believe the injuries just zapped him of his amazing ability to bring a unique athleticism to what was remarkable anticipation setting him apart from everyone else at the position.

I unfortunately think he is headed toward Jaylon Smith territory. At one point Jaylon looked like the best player in all of football even at the college level, one injury later and he just didn't have that explosion and eventually became a journeyman and finally was out of the league after a remarkably un-remarkable career.

Wishing him the best and will be pulling for him.

[Brylok]

Also, good on Shane Steichen for having some balls and standards, willing to clear out the big contracts when necessary. Long may it continue.

[Chromeburn]

Sucks, I wanted to see him finish out the year just to make sure because his type of turnover production is just so rare, but Speed has been outperforming him. I guess he has earned a chance and Leonard gets to go somewhere else. Maybe to the Bears and their system.

[Hoopsdoc]

He was never fast but it seemed like he was especially slow this season. Like unable to get in position on most plays. Guys just ran around him.

At first I just thought he was working his way back from the injury but now I wonder.

It’s clear what the team thought.

[HoosierinFL]

Its pretty sad, the guy worked hard to get himself drafted and busted heads for the Colts until he got injured. But he clearly just isn't the same player anymore, had to happen.

[YDFL Commish]

Also, good on Shane Steichen for having some balls and standards, willing to clear out the big contracts when necessary. Long may it continue.

Reich would have never done this.

[ChaosTheory]

It's a simultaneous feeling of "holy shit" and "well, yeah."

I thought they would give him the rest of the season. I didn't know they'd be on the hook for almost $13m for doing it. His performance wasn't cut-worthy... it just didn't justify the money.

Crazy. This is almost Bob Sanders-level of shining bright for a short time. Surprise pick at #36, four straight All-Pro seasons, and next thing you know, he's not a Colt anymore.

[nate505]

Wow. Even though I get it, this is still pretty shocking to me.

I'm guessing his attitude wasn't helping things. Still, it's hard to reconcile with just how good he was for a few years.

[ChoppedWood]

Reich would have never done this.

Frank would have given him play calling duties- on offense.

[Chromeburn]

Damn injuries. He was on a hof pace better than Ray Lewis. Sucks

[omahacolt]

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I think that Leonard will eventually start playing really well if another team signs him ...... maybe not the first game or 2 that he plays for them, but I think that he will eventually reclaim his status as a force to be reckoned with for opposing offenses.

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he wont


dude is done. sucks how his career has gone but you don't keep a guy like that in the locker room when his play is bad

[apballin]

Yep he was scared of full speed face up tackles and it was evident… can’t pay a guy like that 20mil

Hell of a fall from all pro but they gave him plenty of opportunity and he sealed his fate with shitty soft play and bitching about playing time

[Luck4Reich]

he wont


dude is done. sucks how his career has gone but you don't keep a guy like that in the locker room when his play is bad

Agree with this 100%

[Colts And Orioles]

he wont


dude is done. sucks how his career has gone but you don't keep a guy like that in the locker room when his play is bad




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His play is not bad. He was great before his injury, and he's been average since he's been back.

And I don't have a problem with a player who says that he wants to play more ...... a "guy like that" is somebody who is using steroids and/or snorting cocaine and/or fighting with his teammates.

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[Oldcolt]

He was special because he was such a quick, smooth, explosive athlete who played with incredible abandon and instincts. Injuries seem to have taken most of not all of that away. Let’s hope the Colts allocate his money to positions that rush the passer or catch the ball-positions that modern NFL teams need to excel in to win. It is a good move.

[Discflinger]

Top Leonard plays:
Gonna have to say his first year against the Gayders with the game sealing chop ff. That was the first time I knew this dude was fo' real!

[albany ed]

Farewell Shaquille. I wish you well, you were fun to watch in your glory days. Too bad your candle burned at both ends.

[Mr. Session]

Top Leonard plays:
Gonna have to say his first year against the Gayders with the game sealing chop ff. That was the first time I knew this dude was fo' real!

That one against Houston was pretty sexy too.

He was fun

https://j.gifs.com/812Elm@facebook.gif

[CletusPyle]

One day the Colts will get a great defensive player that will be able to stay healthy and have a long career....hasn't happened for a long time, Freeney and Mathis had good runs!

[Ironshaft]

One day the Colts will get a great defensive player that will be able to stay healthy and have a long career....hasn't happened for a long time, Freeney and Mathis had good runs!
Don't look now, but prior to his current suspension, Grover Stewart has played in 102 of 104 possible games in seven seasons, started 70 of 73 possible over the past five seasons and is considered one of the best NTs in the league.

Sure, not a "sexy" defensive position but he is a force against the run and our defense looks better with him out there.

[CletusPyle]

Don't look now, but prior to his current suspension, Grover Stewart has played in 102 of 104 possible games in seven seasons, started 70 of 73 possible over the past five seasons and is considered one of the best NTs in the league.

Sure, not a "sexy" defensive position but he is a force against the run and our defense looks better with him out there.

Nice call....sorry Grover!:D

[omahacolt]

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His play is not bad. He was great before his injury, and he's been average since he's been back.

And I don't have a problem with a player who says that he wants to play more ...... a "guy like that" is somebody who is using steroids and/or snorting cocaine and/or fighting with his teammates.

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dude

he has been terrible. you think they were going to make him inactive for being average?

[Colts And Orioles]

dude

he has been terrible. you think they were going to make him inactive for being average?





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First of all, when a player comes back from injury, one of the ways in which they can recover their form is by getting a lot of reps ...... and Leonard was not getting them. And that is why I had no problem with him asking for more playing time.

If he catches on with another team either this year or next year, and he gets the playing time that he feels that he needs to become more effective, we may see him resurrect his career.


If you want to assume that he's a malcontent because he thought that he wasn't getting enough playing time, fine ...... I don't buy that generic philosophy.

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[Oldcolt]

He is done C&O. These were big time surgeries he had and have robbed him if explosion and speed. Plus the mental aspect. I don’t feel to bad, he had a great but short run and got paid enough to last a lifetime. Even if he lost just 5-10% a small linebacker like him cannot afford that. He’s young and rich. Enjoy your life Maniac.

[Colts And Orioles]

He is done C&O. These were big time surgeries he had and have robbed him if explosion and speed. Plus the mental aspect. I don’t feel to bad, he had a great but short run and got paid enough to last a lifetime. Even if he lost just 5-10% a small linebacker like him cannot afford that. He’s young and rich. Enjoy your life, Maniac.





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Hey may be done ...... I just wouldn't bet my last dime on it.

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[apballin]

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Hey may be done ...... I just wouldn't bet my last dime on it.

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Man he’s got 2 hogs in front of him and a tackling machine next to him… if he couldn’t return to form with that I just can’t see it happening… I just seen a guy that’s afraid of full speed face up tackles… he’s become a side or back tackler that doesn’t force turnovers

[HoosierinFL]

The only thing I can say in Leonard’s defense is maybe he hasn’t learned Bradley’s defense. The last time he played before his surgery was the Eberflus defense. Maybe Chicago will sign him.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1727683057132380399

Multiple teams are discussing adding LB Shaq Leonard including the Cowboys, Eagles, Vikings, and more.

I was told Leonard is going to take his time making a decision as to where he wants to play.

https://twitter.com/WerderEdESPN/status/1727798587998740567

My sense is Cowboys defensive coaches have encouraged the front office to sign LB Shaq Leonard.

Cowboys, Eagles and Broncos have all shown interest, per source.

Cowboys view Leonard as a role player, however.

Source with another team believes his movement/speed has been diminished by his back surgeries.

[Chromeburn]

https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1727683057132380399



https://twitter.com/WerderEdESPN/status/1727798587998740567

I’d join the eagles. Sirianni is familiar with him and might let him roam how he wants to. Plus I think they win it this year.

[Colts And Orioles]

https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1727683057132380399


Multiple teams are discussing adding LB Shaq Leonard including the Cowboys, Eagles, Vikings, and more.

I was told Leonard is going to take his time making a decision as to where he wants to play.


https://twitter.com/WerderEdESPN/status/1727798587998740567



My sense is Cowboys defensive coaches have encouraged the front office to sign LB Shaq Leonard.

Cowboys, Eagles and Broncos have all shown interest, per source.

Cowboys view Leonard as a role player, however.

Source with another team believes his movement/speed has been diminished by his back surgeries.





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If Leonard really believes that a lack of reps/playing time are part of what has been holding him back from regaining his form, then I would presume that his top priority would be to go to a team that would almost guarantee him that he would be getting those reps/playing time ....... even if it's a losing team with no shot at the playoffs this season, that ought to be his top priority ...... he doesn't have to stay with said team indefinitely, just long enough to try to prove that he can still play.

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[omahacolt]

The only thing I can say in Leonard’s defense is maybe he hasn’t learned Bradley’s defense. The last time he played before his surgery was the Eberflus defense. Maybe Chicago will sign him.

how long does it take to learn a defense? everyone else has seemed to pick it up

[Oldcolt]

He is small, can’t take on and beat blockers but was quicker faster and more ‘athletic’ than most. He was never going to age well. He was so much better than others you couldn’t miss it. So now only he can see it is still there? Doubtful. He should retire and enjoy his life.

[Dam8610]

how long does it take to learn a defense? everyone else has seemed to pick it up

How many holdovers on defense do the Colts have from Eberflus? Buckner, Stewart, Franklin (who wasn't a starter under Eberflus), Blackmon, right? Anyone else? I don’t think so.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

How many holdovers on defense do the Colts have from Eberflus? Buckner, Stewart, Franklin (who wasn't a starter under Eberflus), Blackmon, right? Anyone else? I don’t think so.

There were a few others:

Kenny Moore (starter)

EJ Speed (non starter)

Tyquan Lewis (non starter)


Kwity (starter) and Dayo (non starter) played their rookie years under Eberflus, too.

[omahacolt]

How many holdovers on defense do the Colts have from Eberflus? Buckner, Stewart, Franklin (who wasn't a starter under Eberflus), Blackmon, right? Anyone else? I don’t think so.

wrong as usual

but sure. lets pretend it takes years to learn a defense

[Chromeburn]

The only thing I can say in Leonard’s defense is maybe he hasn’t learned Bradley’s defense. The last time he played before his surgery was the Eberflus defense. Maybe Chicago will sign him.

I think it takes a season playing in one to really learn one. But I think part of the problem is that cover 2 funneled the action to the weak side lb. He could then make a play also he was allowed some range and freedom to flow to the action and his instincts took over. The cover 3 has much more responsibilities for the lbs, you can’t free roam like you can in the cover 2. And the action spot is more the middle lb spot.

But he has lost a step in his pursuit. He would always catch guys before.

[Mr. Session]

But he has lost a step in his pursuit. He would always catch guys before.

He made Zeke look like he was 22 again.

It's over.

[Chromeburn]

He made Zeke look like he was 22 again.

It's over.

That was more taking a bad angle than getting burnt. He should have broken down before he got there instead of trying to do a flying hit on a vet like Zeke. He was more worried about impressing than playing sound ball.

Maybe it’s over, or he could heal with another off season. Either care his colts career is over.

[apballin]

That was more taking a bad angle than getting burnt. He should have broken down before he got there instead of trying to do a flying hit on a vet like Zeke. He was more worried about impressing than playing sound ball.

Maybe it’s over, or he could heal with another off season. Either care his colts career is over.

Exactly…. Bad angle…. Which was taken to avoid the head on full speed collision. He’s playing scared… there’s two sides of being a maniac out there… it’s great while it lasts and it’s a fuckin blast to watch but ….. its not sustainable

We’ve seen this before—- Bob Sanders

[Dam8610]

wrong as usual

but sure. lets pretend it takes years to learn a defense

Who said it takes years to learn a defense? Not me. That said, Leonard spent his first 18 months in this defense injured. So he didn't have a chance to physically learn it until he was on the field. Knowing the defense on the chalkboard is different than knowing it on the field.

[Dam8610]

Also, random aside in part thanks to thread necromancer C & O, but I'm starting to think Ballard's conservatism will be his downfall. This is a perfect example. Last offseason, Shaq Leonard likely had some trade value, especially with the Bears. But in a situation that required Ballard to swing for the fences and creatively use his assets, he sat on his hands and let other teams decide his fate. If you think Jonathan Taylor wouldn't have had as much or more value than D.J. Moore, you're crazy. The Colts likely could've gotten the #1 pick without giving up 2 1st round picks by trading Leonard and Taylor, and could've had the QB that looks like he's going to haunt the AFC South for the next decade. The Colts then could've resigned Okereke for the same contract he got with the Giants, and the Colts could be back on top of the AFC South for the next decade. Now, the Colts got nothing for Leonard, and Taylor is great, but I'd trade him and a lot more for Stroud right now.

[Racehorse]

Also, random aside in part thanks to thread necromancer C & O, but I'm starting to think Ballard's conservatism will be his downfall. This is a perfect example. Last offseason, Shaq Leonard likely had some trade value, especially with the Bears. But in a situation that required Ballard to swing for the fences and creatively use his assets, he sat on his hands and let other teams decide his fate. If you think Jonathan Taylor wouldn't have had as much or more value than D.J. Moore, you're crazy. The Colts likely could've gotten the #1 pick without giving up 2 1st round picks by trading Leonard and Taylor, and could've had the QB that looks like he's going to haunt the AFC South for the next decade. The Colts then could've resigned Okereke for the same contract he got with the Giants, and the Colts could be back on top of the AFC South for the next decade. Now, the Colts got nothing for Leonard, and Taylor is great, but I'd trade him and a lot more for Stroud right now.
Nobody was going to trade for Leonard. If they were likely to have done so back then, they would have claimed him off waivers.

[Oldcolt]

You love playing what if type of GM, are full of shit about what you 'know' is the right track but I love your fucking passion for being right (most of us don't think you are even close). I want to give you props for call C & O a 'thread necromancer'. He is (nobody can find old posts an resurrect those suckers like you can C & O), it was a positive take in my opinion and that was a great use of the word.

AR will have a better career than that POS Stroud.

[Dam8610]

Nobody was going to trade for Leonard. If they were likely to have done so back then, they would have claimed him off waivers.

You don't think he's lost value in the last eight months?

[apballin]

You don't think he's lost value in the last eight months?

It’s not about value with the Colts… it’s simple really…. They want guys that wanna be here and wanna play for the shoe

Leonard sealed his fate by going to the media and complaining about coaching and playing time

And I’m sure more was said in that meeting with Bradley when he told him he’d be inactive. That was probably the final straw

[Dam8610]

AR will have a better career than that POS Stroud.

My heart is with you, but my head says a glass cannon only fires once and the best ability is availability.

It’s not about value with the Colts… it’s simple really…. They want guys that wanna be here and wanna play for the shoe

Leonard sealed his fate by going to the media and complaining about coaching and playing time

And I’m sure more was said in that meeting with Bradley when he told him he’d be inactive. That was probably the final straw

What does this have to do with my post? Not trying to be a smartass, I just honestly don't know how to respond to this in a way that furthers the discussion. The Colts are building a good culture, great. They should. What does that have to do with Leonard's value decreasing (or not) between the end of last season and now?

[Colts And Orioles]

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First of all, when a player comes back from injury, one of the ways in which they can recover their form is by getting a lot of reps ...... and Leonard was not getting them. And that is why I had no problem with him asking for more playing time.

If he catches on with another team either this year or next year, and he gets the playing time that he feels that he needs to become more effective, we may see him resurrect his career.


If you want to assume that he's a malcontent because he made it known that he thought that he wasn't getting enough playing time, fine ...... I don't buy that generic philosophy.

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A side note in regard to "attitude", and "leadership" ......

Playing well almost always overshadows all of that criteria/philosophy. I don't think that there was a single ColtFreaks poster that would refer to Jonathan Taylor as a "leader" and/or that he had a "good attitude", and/or that he was "a good presence in the locker room" when he was holding out at the beginning of the season, and making it clear that he thought that he deserved more money than what the Colts were offering ...... but when Taylor was rushing for 7.9 yards-per-carry against the Saints, catching 5 passes in the 2 games against the Jaguars and the Panthers, and scoring the only TD of the game against the Patriots, I would fathom to guess that there were very few Colts fans that were thinking, "Man, he's an excellent player, but I just wish that he had a better attitude and was more of a leader in the locker room. I wish that he had more loyalty to the Shoe."

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[apballin]

My heart is with you, but my head says a glass cannon only fires once and the best ability is availability.



What does this have to do with my post? Not trying to be a smartass, I just honestly don't know how to respond to this in a way that furthers the discussion. The Colts are building a good culture, great. They should. What does that have to do with Leonard's value decreasing (or not) between the end of last season and now?

They weren’t trading him that was my point, he forced his way out.

As far as value they should’ve let him walk when he was a free agent because after the back injury he’s played like shit

[Chromeburn]

You don't think he's lost value in the last eight months?

What trade value do you think he had? A sixth?

[Oldcolt]

We will have to see how much glass AR is made of. Injuries happen. When they happen early in a career the pall of 'is this a view of the future' runs over it. Most of the time that is not the case. You liked Stroud better than AR but if my memory serves me I don't remember you ever, not even once, say that it was because AR was injury prone. To me AR wasn't injury prone then nor is he now. He has been unlucky and still has the mental and physical tools that seem perfect for a modern NFL QB. One last advantage AR has, and it is huge, is Steichen. I'll couch this in nobody really knows what will happen as we go forward. Fun to speculate though.

[Hoopsdoc]

Also, random aside in part thanks to thread necromancer C & O, but I'm starting to think Ballard's conservatism will be his downfall. This is a perfect example. Last offseason, Shaq Leonard likely had some trade value, especially with the Bears. But in a situation that required Ballard to swing for the fences and creatively use his assets, he sat on his hands and let other teams decide his fate. If you think Jonathan Taylor wouldn't have had as much or more value than D.J. Moore, you're crazy. The Colts likely could've gotten the #1 pick without giving up 2 1st round picks by trading Leonard and Taylor, and could've had the QB that looks like he's going to haunt the AFC South for the next decade. The Colts then could've resigned Okereke for the same contract he got with the Giants, and the Colts could be back on top of the AFC South for the next decade. Now, the Colts got nothing for Leonard, and Taylor is great, but I'd trade him and a lot more for Stroud right now.

You don’t build culture by trading a four time all pro because you suspect he might not live up to his contract.

Thats not how any of this works.

These guys are human beings. They’re not just assets.

[IndyNorm]

Also, random aside in part thanks to thread necromancer C & O, but I'm starting to think Ballard's conservatism will be his downfall. This is a perfect example. Last offseason, Shaq Leonard likely had some trade value, especially with the Bears. But in a situation that required Ballard to swing for the fences and creatively use his assets, he sat on his hands and let other teams decide his fate. If you think Jonathan Taylor wouldn't have had as much or more value than D.J. Moore, you're crazy. The Colts likely could've gotten the #1 pick without giving up 2 1st round picks by trading Leonard and Taylor, and could've had the QB that looks like he's going to haunt the AFC South for the next decade. The Colts then could've resigned Okereke for the same contract he got with the Giants, and the Colts could be back on top of the AFC South for the next decade. Now, the Colts got nothing for Leonard, and Taylor is great, but I'd trade him and a lot more for Stroud right now.

Or better yet we should have traded our 1st and Marlin Mack in '21 to jump ahead of the Cheats for Mac Jones.

[Dam8610]

What trade value do you think he had? A sixth?

In the right situation, I could see him having carried equivalent weight to a late 2 or early 3 last offseason. Not that he would've gotten a pick like that in a trade, more like how DJ Moore was used as a substitute for a 1st round pick by the Panthers.

We will have to see how much glass AR is made of. Injuries happen. When they happen early in a career the pall of 'is this a view of the future' runs over it. Most of the time that is not the case. You liked Stroud better than AR but if my memory serves me I don't remember you ever, not even once, say that it was because AR was injury prone. To me AR wasn't injury prone then nor is he now. He has been unlucky and still has the mental and physical tools that seem perfect for a modern NFL QB. One last advantage AR has, and it is huge, is Steichen. I'll couch this in nobody really knows what will happen as we go forward. Fun to speculate though.

He did have an injury history, and not a particularly light one, either. He has a Netflix documentary where he suffers the exact same injury that ended his season this year in high school, and he had a pretty bad knee injury at Florida in 2021. One of the areas that can severely impact a projection of a player is injury history, and it's nearly impossible to know if you're not in one of the 32 war rooms. All the tape in the world won't give you anything on a player's medicals, and that is a huge part of a player evaluation.

You don’t build culture by trading a four time all pro because you suspect he might not live up to his contract.

Thats not how any of this works.

These guys are human beings. They’re not just assets.

Tell that to Howie Roseman. He'd offload a player like that in exactly the way I suggested so fast it would make your head spin. In fact, you don't have to hypothetically consider it, he did it with Carson Wentz.

Or better yet we should have traded our 1st and Marlin Mack in '21 to jump ahead of the Cheats for Mac Jones.

I'd prefer to trade up for Stroud in a scenario of hypothetical druthers, but Mac Jones is a great example of what a bad set of circumstances within a franchise can do to a good QB prospect, especially if they are more circumstance dependent. Couldn't have happened to a better franchise, but I feel bad for the kid.

[Oldcolt]

Yes I understand that this shoulder has been injured before. An injured AC joint weakens that joint and makes that joint more prone to injury. It has been repaired and should not be an issue going forward, one of the reasons surgery was the best options. It means nothing else. It certainly doesn't mean he is injury prone.

[Dam8610]

Yes I understand that this shoulder has been injured before. An injured AC joint weakens that joint and makes that joint more prone to injury. It has been repaired and should not be an issue going forward, one of the reasons surgery was the best options. It means nothing else. It certainly doesn't mean he is injury prone.

Again, my heart is with you, my head will need to see evidence.

[Racehorse]

You don't think he's lost value in the last eight months?

No. He was coming off an injury that cost him a huge chunk of games. There was no guarantee he would return to form. Had the Colts shopped him then, the league would have thought we knew something about his recovery, and stayed away.

[Racehorse]

What trade value do you think he had? A sixth?

Dam thinks we could have packaged him and Taylor to move up and get Stroud. He thinks the NFL is just like Madden.

[Dam8610]

Dam thinks we could have packaged him and Taylor to move up and get Stroud. He thinks the NFL is just like Madden.

I think they are pieces that could've been moved as part of a deal that could have lowered the draft capital cost of the trade. 4, 36, Taylor, and Leonard for 1 isn't exactly a Madden trade, but IMO would've beaten the Panthers offer.

[Dam8610]

No. He was coming off an injury that cost him a huge chunk of games. There was no guarantee he would return to form. Had the Colts shopped him then, the league would have thought we knew something about his recovery, and stayed away.

There was doubt then, now there's certainty that he's been released. At the very least he's lost value to the Colts in that time, possibly the whole league.

[albany ed]

Dallas is showing interest in Leonard.

[Racehorse]

There was doubt then, now there's certainty that he's been released. At the very least he's lost value to the Colts in that time, possibly the whole league.

Keep saying you are the only one right on every thread. Nobody will think you are an arrogant fella at all.

[IndyNorm]

I think they are pieces that could've been moved as part of a deal that could have lowered the draft capital cost of the trade. 4, 36, Taylor, and Leonard for 1 isn't exactly a Madden trade, but IMO would've beaten the Panthers offer.

You're WAY overestimating Leonard's trade value last year. He was completely ineffective coming off a major back surgery, so he had to have a 2nd major back surgery. With his contract he likely would have garnered a conditional late round pick, not the 2nd/3rd you seem to think he was worth.

Also, you seem to be forgetting that Ballard priorities physical traits over everything else w/ his draft picks. So it's pretty likely that he had AR rated higher than Stroud on his draft board to begin with.

[Dam8610]

Keep saying you are the only one right on every thread. Nobody will think you are an arrogant fella at all.

I didn't say that.

You're WAY overestimating Leonard's trade value last year. He was completely ineffective coming off a major back surgery, so he had to have a 2nd major back surgery. With his contract he likely would have garnered a conditional late round pick, not the 2nd/3rd you seem to think he was worth.

Also, you seem to be forgetting that Ballard priorities physical traits over everything else w/ his draft picks. So it's pretty likely that he had AR rated higher than Stroud on his draft board to begin with.

Agree to disagree I guess, he did still have 3 All-Pro seasons leading up to the injured year, including back to back selections prior to 2022. Say Fred Warner was coming off a similar situation to Leonard at the end of this season. You'd be upset at the Colts giving up a 3 to get the chance that he returns to prime form?

[Colts And Orioles]

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Jim Irsay sent him out in style ......



Recently Cut LB Shaquille Leonard Gets Tribute From the Colts

(By Stephen Holder)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38985108/recently-cut-lb-shaquille-leonard-gets-tribute-colts

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[Oldcolt]

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Jim Irsay sent him out in style ......



Recently Cut LB Shaquille Leonard Gets Tribute From the Colts

(By Stephen Holder)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38985108/recently-cut-lb-shaquille-leonard-gets-tribute-colts

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Total class move by Irsay and Leonard. Irsay is a complicated man, as is Leonard.

[Discflinger]

I SO wish that he could still play
https://youtu.be/tSX1QiUM44s?si=UiA02TztUSYf_OH4

[Discflinger]

Surprisingly the strip from behind on Watson as he entered the end zone was not in the reel.
However, that lateral to Rodgers was unreal.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Per Rapoport, it appears that Leonard is reuniting with Sirianni in Philly.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1731760280999207230

Sources: The Eagles and former Colts All-Pro LB Shaq Leonard have agreed to terms on a 1-year deal after he took a visit to Philly last week.

A potential big addition for the stretch run.

Leonard also visited the Cowboys, but Philly was always his preferred spot.

[Oldcolt]

Wish him well in Phili. Hope he gets a ring this year, next year is ours.

[Colts And Orioles]

Per Rapoport, it appears that Leonard is reuniting with Sirianni in Philly.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1731760280999207230





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Wouldn't it be something if the Eagles and the Colts played each other in the Super Bowl next year after Anthony Richardson got back ???

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[Spike]

Per Rapoport, it appears that Leonard is reuniting with Sirianni in Philly.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1731760280999207230

Good, didn't want to see him with the Cowgirls.

[Racehorse]

Good, didn't want to see him with the Cowgirls.

Yeah. I can root for him as an Eagle, but not as a Cowgirl.

[Colts And Orioles]

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Breaking Down Shaquille Leonard and His Potential Impact on the Eagles’ Defense

(By Brooks Kubena)

https://theathletic.com/5112620/2023/12/06/philadelphia-eagles-shaq-leonard/

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[CletusPyle]

Leonard seeing some playing time with the Eagles....haven't seen him make a play yet!

[YDFL Commish]

Leonard seeing some playing time with the Eagles....haven't seen him make a play yet!

You won't.