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YDFL Commish
11-19-2023, 09:49 AM
I'm sure I'm not the only old timer that has noticed. But NFL players do not wear the pads or protective equipment that they have in in the past.

It seems that knee pads and thigh pads are optional. Shoulder pads are small and inadequate, nobody wears thigh pads.

HOW THE THE FUCK DOES THE NFL ALLOW THIS WHEN THEY ARE PREACHING SAFETY?

Is there not an NFL uniform standard? I know there use to be. I'm just sick and tired of the BS about the NFL stance on safety when the NFL does not enforce things that do not reflect this.

apballin
11-19-2023, 10:47 AM
Definitely, my nephews play little league football and kids are constantly reminded “put your mouthpiece in “

Then your nephews point out NFL players don’t have to wear a mouthpiece

I had to look the shit up because I didn’t believe it but yes mouth guards are optional.

The play that bothers me the most is when guys are on the ground and get pounced on. How has that not been banned??? I’d like to know how many guys have been injured from a 300 pound guy jumping on them while they’re on the ground.

If you’re on the ground… you’re defenseless

Colts And Orioles
11-26-2023, 07:38 PM
HOW THE THE FUCK DOES THE NFL ALLOW THIS WHEN THEY ARE PREACHING SAFETY ???





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When they added a 17th-regular-season game in 2021, they had the balls to say that they were "following the science" because they were cutting back the pre-season schedule from 4 games to 3 ...... subsequently, I'm not the least bit surprised when they behave in a questionable manner in other areas.

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Colts And Orioles
12-06-2023, 11:37 AM
Definitely, my nephews play Little League football and kids are constantly reminded “put your mouthpiece in “

Then your nephews point out NFL players don’t have to wear a mouthpiece

I had to look the shit up because I didn’t believe it but yes mouth guards are optional.

The play that bothers me the most is when guys are on the ground and get pounced on. How has that not been banned??? I’d like to know how many guys have been injured from a 300 pound guy jumping on them while they’re on the ground.

If you’re on the ground ...… you’re defenseless.





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Bernie Kosar ) is missing numerous front teeth, because he claimed that in order to audible discernably, he had play without his mouthpiece.




Q: ) I read about all the teeth that you had knocked out over the years from playing football, and how little of them you have left ...... Is that true ???

A: ) “Pretty much. I’ve had probably four or five of my back teeth knocked out, two are still missing, and five are fake. Because I audibled so much because Coach Shnellenberger and Coach Shula gave me the luxury of changing the play, the mouthpiece made me sound garbled. In these loud 80,000-seat stadiums, you need the guys to understand and hear you. So it just got to the point where I wasn’t even wearing one because I audibled so much. For the kids out there, it was stupid and a mistake. It definitely caused more of the concussions and loss of teeth. I actually have saved all the teeth that have been knocked out and the screws and pins that have been taken out in surgeries. I also had surgery on my jaw multiple times because I cracked the bone four or five times from getting hit. I was so focused in on wanting to make good plays, and because I was so slow I knew I needed to get us in the right play all the time because I knew I couldn’t run the ball.”



https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2010/02/01/exclusive-qa-with-former-nfl-um-star-qb-bernie-kosar/

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YDFL Commish
12-07-2023, 09:58 AM
Tackling was also much more sound back in the 60' 70's 80's. Go watch some games and you will see why they rarely had concussions back then.

Everybody was leading with the head and going as low as possible to make the tackle.

ukcolt
12-07-2023, 12:25 PM
They had just as many serious concussions in the 70's, 80's, but players never reported them. The defensive linemen would wear hard casts and smack the offensive lineman on the sides of their helmets, until it was eventually banned. Protective equipment back then, ie helmets provided little to no protection in reality.

YDFL Commish
12-07-2023, 02:32 PM
They had just as many serious concussions in the 70's, 80's, but players never reported them. The defensive linemen would wear hard casts and smack the offensive lineman on the sides of their helmets, until it was eventually banned. Protective equipment back then, ie helmets provided little to no protection in reality.

I'm not saying they didn't. I'm just saying that current style of tackling is more conducive to concussions.

Oldcolt
12-07-2023, 03:41 PM
There is a problem when over 90% of NFL players autopsied have CTE.

Colts And Orioles
12-07-2023, 04:09 PM
There is a problem when over 90% of NFL players autopsied have CTE.





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In my rat's ass of an opinion, it's the nature of this vicious game.

Asserting that there is a problem insinuates that there is a solution ...... there isn't, unless tackle football is abolished.

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ChaosTheory
12-07-2023, 04:21 PM
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In my rat's ass of an opinion, it's the nature of this vicious game.

Asserting that there is a problem insinuates that there is a solution ...... there isn't, unless tackle football is abolished.

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It's true. Football players are athletes with the greatest combination of speed, explosiveness, and mass. These are car wrecks they get into, play after play. You can protect your skull from fracturing, but you can't stop your brain from moving.

It's always been a calculated risk. Same with boxers.

Oldcolt
12-07-2023, 11:35 PM
If it is a known risk and nothing can be done shouldn't the men who got rich off these guys take care of them? While you may never get rid of the risk hopefully it can be ameliorated so as to decrease its impact.

ChaosTheory
12-08-2023, 10:38 AM
If it is a known risk and nothing can be done shouldn't the men who got rich off these guys take care of them? While you may never get rid of the risk hopefully it can be ameliorated so as to decrease its impact.

I don't know to what degree the NFL takes care of them or not currently. It's difficult to argue "should" in these voluntary exchanges. These guys could always use their free college educations to pursue a career in a less violent field.

But they don't. I wouldn't, either.

ukcolt
12-08-2023, 11:00 AM
If it is a known risk and nothing can be done shouldn't the men who got rich off these guys take care of them? While you may never get rid of the risk hopefully it can be ameliorated so as to decrease its impact.

Owners should take care of them, and in this day and age they do with the salaries and private health care plans that they have in place. It is the veterans who played this game who earned relatively very little, that they need to be looking after better. There has been an increase in the contributions to the veterans funds etc, but there are still so many of the older guys who are struggling. Saying this i doubt there is a single NFL player from the last 40 plus years that hasn't played the game knowing there is huge personal risk of long term injury.

Even now just because someone earns a lot of money, often doesn't mean that they retire rich. But to me i am not sure that is the fault of ownership, people are people and some make poor decisions and live a lifestyle that is not maintainable throughout their lives. But i believe that there are education programs, rookie symposiums to help all players make sound decisions. Each player still has to make the right sound fundamental decision.