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Chromeburn
11-12-2023, 04:04 PM
Dayo Odeyingbo accounted for a career-high 3 of the Colts’ 5 sacks in a Week 10 win against the Patriots.
Odeyingbo has now recorded multiple pressures in four straight games, and has since doubled his pressure rate (15.3%) compared to Weeks 1-6 (7.1%).
https://i.ibb.co/DftSDgv/IMG-4479.jpg (https://ibb.co/ch17cXZ)
https://x.com/nextgenstats/status/1723754906035933605?s=46&t=FvKeTlgkL8ardaxv32vrGQ
Dam8610
11-12-2023, 11:05 PM
Dayo Odeyingbo accounted for a career-high 3 of the Colts’ 5 sacks in a Week 10 win against the Patriots.
Odeyingbo has now recorded multiple pressures in four straight games, and has since doubled his pressure rate (15.3%) compared to Weeks 1-6 (7.1%).
https://i.ibb.co/DftSDgv/IMG-4479.jpg (https://ibb.co/ch17cXZ)
https://x.com/nextgenstats/status/1723754906035933605?s=46&t=FvKeTlgkL8ardaxv32vrGQ
Maybe Ballard finally hit on a drafted DE. Still need more pressure.
Chromeburn
11-13-2023, 02:10 PM
The Colts currently have 4 pass rushers projected to finish this season with 6.0+ sacks:
Dayo Odeyingbo: 6.0 (on pace for 10.2)
DeForest Buckner: 5.0 (on pace for 8.5)
Kwity Paye: 4.5 (on pace for 8.0)
Samson Ebukam: 4.0 (on pace for 6.8)
https://x.com/zachhicks2/status/1724080634979660092?s=46&t=FvKeTlgkL8ardaxv32vrGQ
HoosierinFL
11-13-2023, 05:20 PM
More pressure is always good but I just looked up some stats:
Colts defense is dead last in blitz % at 15% (compared to Vikings in 1st at 45%!)
Despite this, Colts are 11th in sack rate at 7.96% (compared to Browns at 11.28%).
Colts also had the highest sack rate in the past weekend's games, and are ranked 7th in sack rate over the past 3 weeks.
Also tied for 10th in total takeaways.
But when pressure doesn't get home, we're not really hurrying the opposing QBs, because the Colts defense is 25th in Hurry% and 23rd in pressure rate.
So we're somehow scheming a pretty decent sack rate without blitzing, but seemingly contradicting that is a weak pressure rate which likely accounts for the insane passing yards this defense has given up. But really this defense has given up a ton of yards. (worth noting that yards/play stat is more middle of the pack, and we've just ended up with a ton of plays against us, in fact, leading the league in that stat).
In the end, 5th in points against needs improvement.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/opp.htm
YDFL Commish
11-13-2023, 07:11 PM
More pressure is always good but I just looked up some stats:
Colts defense is dead last in blitz % at 15% (compared to Vikings in 1st at 45%!)
Despite this, Colts are 11th in sack rate at 7.96% (compared to Browns at 11.28%).
Colts also had the highest sack rate in the past weekend's games, and are ranked 7th in sack rate over the past 3 weeks.
Also tied for 10th in total takeaways.
But when pressure doesn't get home, we're not really hurrying the opposing QBs, because the Colts defense is 25th in Hurry% and 23rd in pressure rate.
So we're somehow scheming a pretty decent sack rate without blitzing, but seemingly contradicting that is a weak pressure rate which likely accounts for the insane passing yards this defense has given up. But really this defense has given up a ton of yards. (worth noting that yards/play stat is more middle of the pack, and we've just ended up with a ton of plays against us, in fact, leading the league in that stat).
In the end, 5th in points against needs improvement.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/opp.htm
On a side note, Minshew is the most heavily blitzed QB in the league at like 40%. Gotta be able to make them pay.
Chromeburn
11-13-2023, 08:08 PM
Raimann is 1 of 8 Left Tackles leaguewide who has logged 300+ pass-blocking snaps and has a 80+ pass block grade via PFF. He also has the 4th-best run block grade (72.1) among them and has only committed 1 penalty.
https://x.com/nerlens_/status/1724131730343199130?s=46&t=FvKeTlgkL8ardaxv32vrGQ
Chromeburn
11-13-2023, 08:51 PM
Colts run defense…
In 6 games with Grover Stewart:
113 yards per game
3.7 yards per carry
In 4 games without Grover Stewart:
154 yards per game
4.7 yards per carry
https://x.com/nateatkins_/status/1724136383558881430?s=46&t=FvKeTlgkL8ardaxv32vrGQ
Chromeburn
11-13-2023, 10:15 PM
Baldinger giving the dline some love
https://x.com/baldynfl/status/1724218223099310453?s=46&t=FvKeTlgkL8ardaxv32vrGQ
Chromeburn
11-13-2023, 10:39 PM
https://i.ibb.co/VtSJXFT/IMG-4484.jpg (https://ibb.co/G02ngZR)
AlwaysSunnyinIndy
11-14-2023, 12:00 AM
Prior to the Cheats game, I lurked through a few other teams message boards and had found a stat that had included the Colts.
On a Vikings forum, they had mentioned:
Before Justin Jefferson strained his hamstring, the Vikings ranked third in rushing success rate, according to TruMedia. In the four weeks since, the Vikings rank 27th. Opposing defenses are applying more numbers in the box to stop the run, and Minnesota hasn’t had an answer. Only the Indianapolis Colts are averaging fewer yards per rush before contact than the Vikings in the past four weeks — which means the blocking is … well, close to nonexistent.
I have searched for this stat a little and found data for all NFL teams averaged for the entire season. If someone can find the info for the last 5 games (including the Cheats game), I would be interested to see it. I assume Minshew has really impacted this stat.
rm1369
11-14-2023, 09:50 AM
Prior to the Cheats game, I lurked through a few other teams message boards and had found a stat that had included the Colts.
On a Vikings forum, they had mentioned:
Before Justin Jefferson strained his hamstring, the Vikings ranked third in rushing success rate, according to TruMedia. In the four weeks since, the Vikings rank 27th. Opposing defenses are applying more numbers in the box to stop the run, and Minnesota hasn’t had an answer. Only the Indianapolis Colts are averaging fewer yards per rush before contact than the Vikings in the past four weeks — which means the blocking is … well, close to nonexistent.
I have searched for this stat a little and found data for all NFL teams averaged for the entire season. If someone can find the info for the last 5 games (including the Cheats game), I would be interested to see it. I assume Minshew has really impacted this stat.
Yeah, teams just have no fear of GM beating them over the top. Why it’s also so hard to tell if AP has progressed at all.
Chromeburn
11-14-2023, 01:48 PM
More pressure is always good but I just looked up some stats:
Colts defense is dead last in blitz % at 15% (compared to Vikings in 1st at 45%!)
Despite this, Colts are 11th in sack rate at 7.96% (compared to Browns at 11.28%).
Colts also had the highest sack rate in the past weekend's games, and are ranked 7th in sack rate over the past 3 weeks.
Also tied for 10th in total takeaways.
But when pressure doesn't get home, we're not really hurrying the opposing QBs, because the Colts defense is 25th in Hurry% and 23rd in pressure rate.
So we're somehow scheming a pretty decent sack rate without blitzing, but seemingly contradicting that is a weak pressure rate which likely accounts for the insane passing yards this defense has given up. But really this defense has given up a ton of yards. (worth noting that yards/play stat is more middle of the pack, and we've just ended up with a ton of plays against us, in fact, leading the league in that stat).
In the end, 5th in points against needs improvement.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/opp.htm
Also 4th in the league in sacks while blitzing the least in the league.
Colts And Orioles
11-14-2023, 02:05 PM
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A 266-game NFL streak has ended ...... dating back to the 2012 season, NFL teams had gone 266 consecutive games of winning when their team gained at least 150 yards rushing while holding their opponent to 10 points or less ...... the Patriots gained 167 yards rushing, held the Colts to 10 points, but lost the game because they only scored 6 points themselves.
Patriots’ Loss to Colts Ended This 266-Game Winning Streak by NFL Teams That Dated Back 11 Years
(By John Breech)
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/patriots-loss-to-colts-ended-this-266-game-winning-streak-by-nfl-teams-that-dated-back-11-years/
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Chromeburn
11-14-2023, 04:04 PM
lol
https://i.ibb.co/fpJgLh6/IMG-4485.jpg (https://ibb.co/zRdMDy9)
Chromeburn
11-14-2023, 04:23 PM
This
https://x.com/natefrmnap/status/1723749818651103725?s=46&t=FvKeTlgkL8ardaxv32vrGQ
Chromeburn
11-14-2023, 07:30 PM
https://i.ibb.co/5nPNL5w/IMG-4486.jpg (https://ibb.co/4YH6pj3)
Chromeburn
11-14-2023, 07:34 PM
Offensive line grades in True Pass Sets (excludes plays with less than 4 rushers, play action, screens, short dropbacks and time-to-throws under 2 seconds).
https://i.ibb.co/BfZ1sHz/IMG-4487.jpg (https://ibb.co/6yPdscn)
AlwaysSunnyinIndy
11-15-2023, 11:12 AM
https://twitter.com/ZachHicks2/status/1724128657097044217
Highest Pass Rush Win Rate among defensive linemen the past two weeks (PFF):
1. DeForest Buckner - 27.6%
2. Rashan Gary - 26.8%
3. Myles Garrett - 23.5%
4. Joey Bosa - 22.4%
AlwaysSunnyinIndy
11-15-2023, 11:18 AM
This
https://x.com/natefrmnap/status/1723749818651103725?s=46&t=FvKeTlgkL8ardaxv32vrGQ
I like this one, too:
https://twitter.com/ZachHicks2/status/1723743844720656825
Dam8610
11-15-2023, 11:21 AM
lol
https://i.ibb.co/fpJgLh6/IMG-4485.jpg (https://ibb.co/zRdMDy9)
And people said I was crazy to call Trevor Lawrence a bust.
YDFL Commish
11-15-2023, 08:01 PM
And people said I was crazy to call Trevor Lawrence a bust.
But you thought that Mac Jones was better. Time to get off your high horse.
Dam8610
11-15-2023, 08:59 PM
But you thought that Mac Jones was better. Time to get off your high horse.
Three OCs in three years can do that to a QB that needed a good situation to succeed. Glad it happened to the Cheats, that's for sure, but if SF had drafted him as was rumored on draft day, he might look better than Purdy does in that role.
AlwaysSunnyinIndy
11-16-2023, 11:06 AM
A 266-game NFL streak has ended ...... dating back to the 2012 season, NFL teams had gone 266 consecutive games of winning when their team gained at least 150 yards rushing while holding their opponent to 10 points or less ...... the Patriots gained 167 yards rushing, held the Colts to 10 points, but lost the game because they only scored 6 points themselves.
I also read that this loss broke a 20+ year streak.
The Cheats had won 89 straight games when their defense held the opponent to 10 points or fewer.
The last loss was 2001.
https://twitter.com/bostonsportsinf/status/1723754857100669132
Bill Belichick
Patriots had won 89 straight games when holding their opponent to 10 or fewer points
Last loss before today
9/23/01 - when Tom Brady took over for Drew Bledsoe
https://twitter.com/bostonsportsinf/status/1723760038156640761
Belichick with the Patriots when holding the opponent to 10 or fewer points (QB's of record)
Tom Brady - (72-0, 1.000)
Matt Cassell - (5-0, 1.000)
Bailey Zappe - (1-0, 1.000)
Cam Newton - (1-0, 1.000)
Jacoby Brissett - (1-0, 1.000)
Mac Jones - (9-1, .900)
Drew Bledsoe - (1-2, .333)
YDFL Commish
11-16-2023, 11:47 AM
Three OCs in three years can do that to a QB that needed a good situation to succeed. Glad it happened to the Cheats, that's for sure, but if SF had drafted him as was rumored on draft day, he might look better than Purdy does in that role.
That sir is ludicrous!
Chromeburn
11-16-2023, 02:29 PM
7th round pick Jaylon Jones is proving Chris Ballard right so far.
To draft two year 1 starters in the 7th round two years in a row is unheard of stuff from Ballard and his team. (Rodney Thomas & Jaylon Jones)
https://i.ibb.co/zXxMzYd/IMG-4492.jpg (https://ibb.co/m9Tj3wp)
https://x.com/thedestinadams/status/1724843288488755690?s=46&t=FvKeTlgkL8ardaxv32vrGQ
Dam8610
11-16-2023, 08:27 PM
That sir is ludicrous!
Sure, just like Lawrence being a bust was ludicrous. Looks like I got the bigger, more important one right.
Dam8610
11-16-2023, 08:28 PM
7th round pick Jaylon Jones is proving Chris Ballard right so far.
To draft two year 1 starters in the 7th round two years in a row is unheard of stuff from Ballard and his team. (Rodney Thomas & Jaylon Jones)
https://i.ibb.co/zXxMzYd/IMG-4492.jpg (https://ibb.co/m9Tj3wp)
https://x.com/thedestinadams/status/1724843288488755690?s=46&t=FvKeTlgkL8ardaxv32vrGQ
Wish we knew where Brents was on this graph.
Chromeburn
11-16-2023, 09:37 PM
Wish we knew where Brents was on this graph.
Yeah, not sure why he’s not on there. Maybe data doesn’t paint a clear picture or they only did the snap leaders for the team.
Dam8610
11-16-2023, 10:45 PM
Yeah, not sure why he’s not on there. Maybe data doesn’t paint a clear picture or they only did the snap leaders for the team.
Probably the latter.
AlwaysSunnyinIndy
11-17-2023, 01:33 AM
Yeah, not sure why he’s not on there. Maybe data doesn’t paint a clear picture or they only did the snap leaders for the team.
Probably the latter.
Yeah, the chart indicates the player needs a minimum of 120 snaps in pass coverage - and Brents exceeds that minimum.
But maybe the person who made the graph capped a team to 4 CB's.
Chromeburn
11-17-2023, 07:24 PM
Michael Pittman
92 targets
2 drops
https://x.com/pff_fantasy/status/1725548098292949354?s=46&t=FvKeTlgkL8ardaxv32vrGQ
Chromeburn
11-17-2023, 07:34 PM
Kenny Moore #1 slot corner in the NFL?
https://www.nfl.com/news/top-10-slot-defenders-entering-week-11-of-2023-nfl-season-kenny-moore-rules-incr
Chromeburn
11-21-2023, 02:38 PM
Gardner Minshew is responsible for 18.8% of QB pressures the Colts have allowed this season.
Quenton Nelson (10.0%), Ryan Kelly (7.5%), and Will Fries (15.5%) are all less responsible for pressure on the quarterback than the quarterback himself.
https://x.com/colts_report/status/1726753925330534895?s=46&t=FvKeTlgkL8ardaxv32vrGQ
Colts And Orioles
11-21-2023, 03:51 PM
Quenton Nelson (10.0%), Ryan Kelly (7.5%), and Will Fries (15.5%) ) are all less responsible for pressure on the quarterback than the quarterback himself.
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Stan: ) "Oh my God ...... they killed Gardner !!!"
Kyle: ) "You bastards !!!"
Cartman: ) "Wait a minute, guys ...... they DID NOT kill Gardner ...... Gardner killed himself."
o
AlwaysSunnyinIndy
11-25-2023, 12:43 PM
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1727729753073832235
Lowest Passer Rating Allowed by LBs (min. 20 targets) entering Week 12 in the NFL:
1) Patriots Jahlani Tavai - 54.0
2) Colts E.J. Speed - 64.4
3) Raiders Robert Spillane - 65.1
4) 49ers Fred Warner - 73.2
5) Bengals Logan Wilson - 74.3
6) Steelers Kwon Alexander - 76.3
7) Rams Ernest Jones - 78.1
8) Texans Blake Cashman - 78.3
9) Bucs Devin White - 81
10) Bills Terrel Bernard - 82.8
Dam8610
11-26-2023, 01:36 AM
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1727729753073832235
This is why Leonard was released. Can't pay your LB3 $20M per year.
Oldcolt
11-26-2023, 10:23 AM
That is why he would have been released at the end of the year. They released him now because he was being a little bitch complaining and pouting about not getting playing time because he sucked. Steichen is building a culture here and Leonard wasn't buying in so he got canned in the middle of the season. I love this move. Steichen obviously doesn't put up with anyone not pulling the same way, no matter how good you 'used' to be or are in you head. As numerous folks have pointed out and Racehorse just did, nobody signed him off waivers and nobody has signed him since. It was pointed out in a StampedeBlue article that both JT and Leonard have the same representative and pulled the same kinda shit. Neither has a damn thing to bitch about but took that course anyway.
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