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Hoopsdoc
10-22-2023, 05:47 AM
21-6 Browns win.

That defense is legit. Minshew may be in a cast by the end of the game. That would mean *shudder* Sam Ehlinger. Yeesh.

Hoopsdoc
10-22-2023, 09:19 AM
I’d like to see some life from JT and Leonard.

I want to see the run defense hold up without Grover.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 09:21 AM
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The Browns have played 4 good games and 1 bad game so far this season. They beat the previously undefeated 49ers last week, and they beat the Titans and the Bengals by a combined score of 51-6. They had one really bad game against the Ravens, when Deshaun Watson was not playing at quarterback (Watson is questionable for the Colts game tomorrow.) If the Browns beat the Colts in a close game, that will not necessarily be a sign that the Colts cannot compete with good teams, and/or have no chance for a post-season berth ....... this is not the necessarily the perennial doormat Cleveland Browns that the Colts will be facing on Sunday.


All of that said, I still believe that the Colts have a good chance to win the game if the offensive line does (at least) a reasonably good job of protecting Gardner Minshew.

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IndyNorm
10-22-2023, 09:22 AM
Yeah, going to be a tough one. The Brown's D has had a couple of off weeks against Pitt and Balt (although I'm guessing Jackson had a lot to do w/ the 2nd game). Doubt that happens today: 17-6 Browns.

albany ed
10-22-2023, 09:47 AM
I guarantee that this Colts team will do better against the Browns than the 1964 Colts did against the Browns in the NFL championship game.

IndyNorm
10-22-2023, 09:52 AM
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The Browns have played 4 good games and 1 bad game so far this season. They beat the previously undefeated 49ers last week, and they beat the Titans and the Bengals by a combined score of 51-6. They had one really bad game against the Ravens, when Deshaun Watson was not playing at quarterback (Watson is questionable for the Colts game tomorrow.) If the Browns beat the Colts in a close game, that will not necessarily be a sign that the Colts cannot compete with good teams, and/or have no chance for a post-season berth ....... this is not the necessarily the perennial doormat Cleveland Browns that the Colts will be facing on Sunday.


All of that said, I still believe that the Colts have a good chance to win the game if the offensive line does (at least) a reasonably good job of protecting Gardner Minshew.

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The Browns have had 2 bad games as they somehow managed to lose to the Steelers in week 2, which was in between the weeks they blew out the Bungles and Tits.

HoosierinFL
10-22-2023, 09:56 AM
Who vs who now?

apballin
10-22-2023, 10:03 AM
The Browns have played 1 road game amazingly and already had a bye

This is an overrated defense that has benefited from situations like Burrow not being ready and playing every dam game at home

I don’t give a fuck if Watson plays or not, Chubb has been the guy you have to worry about without him they’re not the same and much easier to defend

This will be Taylor’s breakout game

Colts win 24-17

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 10:03 AM
The Browns have had 2 bad games as they somehow managed to lose to the Steelers in week 2, which was in between the weeks they blew out the Bungles and Tits.






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The Steelers just beat the Ravens in their most recent game.

With wins over the Ravens AND the Browns, their grade as a team for the 2023 season is still incomplete. They have been very erratic.

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Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 10:17 AM
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INDIANAPOLIS COLTS llllllll.. - 30


CLEVELAND BROWNS llllllllllllllllllly - 24

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IndyNorm
10-22-2023, 10:20 AM
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The Steelers just beat the Ravens in their most recent game.

With wins over the Ravens AND the Browns, their grade as a team for the 2023 season is still incomplete. They have been very erratic.

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Maybe. They've also been steam rolled twice and barely squeaked by LAV.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 10:21 AM
Maybe. They've also been steam rolled twice and barely squeaked by LAV.





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Correct. That's why I said that they have been very erratic.

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Oldcolt
10-22-2023, 10:28 AM
I'm not as interested in win/loss (obviously I want us to win and to never give up but we lack talent). This team is not going anywhere this year. It is about development. I'll be interested in watching to see if Leonard can start to force turnovers or if he will be cut at the end of the year, does the offensive line continue to improve especially our backups, do we actually have depth on the defensive line with Grover out and can the defensive backfield continue to grow. I am concerned about our receiver corp, no one is special in any way, but I have watched enough to believe the answer (a true number one receiver) isn't on this roster. I am thinking we may have found our slot and Pittman seems like a nice number two.

Chromeburn
10-22-2023, 10:40 AM
21-6 Browns win.

That defense is legit. Minshew may be in a cast by the end of the game. That would mean *shudder* Sam Ehlinger. Yeesh.

Marvin Harrison Jr?
https://i.ibb.co/6shmH8p/IMG-3553.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

TheMugwump
10-22-2023, 11:09 AM
Marvin Harrison Jr?
https://i.ibb.co/6shmH8p/IMG-3553.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

This would be nice, but they can't win more than one more game this year if they hope to be in the running for a pick for Jr. He'll likely go top 5.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
10-22-2023, 11:35 AM
WR Alec Pierce had been listed as QUESTIONABLE in the injury report, but he is active and will play today.


Colts Inactives:

RT Braden Smith
TE Kylen Granson
G Ike Boettger
CB Ameer Speed
DE Isaiah Land

albany ed
10-22-2023, 11:35 AM
Forget about MH Jr., He'll be gone before the Colts pick. You can get a great WR without being in the top 5. Here are some of the best WRs playing right now.

Justin Jefferson
Tyreek Hill, Dolphins
Ja'Marr Chase, Bengals
Cooper Kupp, Rams
Davante Adams, Raiders

Only Chase was drafted in the top 5.

omahacolt
10-22-2023, 11:35 AM
A- on the title


well done hoops

Thorgrim
10-22-2023, 12:10 PM
Heart colts 23 browns 20
Head browns 28 colts 6

After nearly 50 years as a colts fan you'd think I'd be numb to disappointment but last Sunday was oddly disquieting. Maybe it's just because I hate those bastards in Jax but I hate games that make me think we will be discussing the merits of tanking by mid season.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 12:25 PM
My Heart ...... Colts 23 - Browns 20

My Head ...... Browns 28 - Colts 6

After nearly 50 years as a Colts fan, you'd think that I'd be numb to disappointment, but last Sunday was oddly disquieting ...... maybe it's just because I hate those bastards in Jacksonville, but I hate games that make me think that we will be discussing the merits of tanking by mid-season.





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Gardner Minshew will channel his inner 1968 Earl Morrall, and lead the Colts to victory this afternoon.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH07VxhX0AIj77f?format=jpg&name=360x360

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CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 12:35 PM
Browns defense will be exposed today!

Colts 24

Browns 20

TheMugwump
10-22-2023, 12:36 PM
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Considering how well the Browns' defense played against Brock Purdy and the previously-undefeated 49ers last week, I just couldn't resist predicting that Gardner Minshew and company will put up 30 points on them today.

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The rain and wind were pretty significant last week in Cleveland, and I'm sure that had an affect on Mr. Irrelevant.

Hoopsdoc
10-22-2023, 12:38 PM
Also, Bubba Ventrone is the special teams coach for Cleveland. He’s an outstanding ST coach and he’s intimately familiar with a lot of our players.

Keep an eye out for something crazy on special teams. A successful fake or a return score.

TheMugwump
10-22-2023, 12:53 PM
Why the heck is Adam Archuleta always assigned Colts games?

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
10-22-2023, 12:54 PM
Also, Bubba Ventrone is the special teams coach for Cleveland. He’s an outstanding ST coach and he’s intimately familiar with a lot of our players.

Keep an eye out for something crazy on special teams. A successful fake or a return score.


Eh, there has been a lot of turnover on Special teams and the guys playing the iion's share of snaps this year are a lot different than last year.

But yeah, Ventrone might try to dial something up in his "revenge" game.

Puck
10-22-2023, 12:57 PM
The Colts deserve to lose because of those stupid uniforms

Puck
10-22-2023, 01:03 PM
Close the DAMN ROOF!!!!

nate505
10-22-2023, 01:03 PM
These uniforms are hurting my eyes!

Spike
10-22-2023, 01:03 PM
Why the heck is Adam Archuleta always assigned Colts games?

Yeah, I can't stand that hack.

nate505
10-22-2023, 01:05 PM
Holy crap, how pathetic.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
10-22-2023, 01:05 PM
Well, that could have gone better.

Maybe the Colts should have received.

nate505
10-22-2023, 01:06 PM
What the fuck happened there. Was a safety just that out of position?

Spike
10-22-2023, 01:06 PM
Well, run defense is looking good.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
10-22-2023, 01:07 PM
Well, run defense is looking good.


Deon Jackson is probably licking his chops and hoping to enter the next Cleveland offensive series.

nate505
10-22-2023, 01:08 PM
Between that, the stupid uniforms, and the damned sun fucking up the view of the field, this game is already pissing me with less than a minute of time gone by.

IndyNorm
10-22-2023, 01:08 PM
So much for our Groverless run D :cool:

nate505
10-22-2023, 01:09 PM
Great tackle break by Downs.

Man this guy was an absolute steal.

nate505
10-22-2023, 01:11 PM
What a response!!!

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 01:11 PM
Was that TY?:D

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 01:12 PM
Uniforms looked better on that play!

Spike
10-22-2023, 01:12 PM
Downs is awesome!

Nice throw by the Minsh.

Chromeburn
10-22-2023, 01:14 PM
What the fuck happened there. Was a safety just that out of position?

Safety had to move down to cover Pierce

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 01:17 PM
Uniforms looked better on that play !!!





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Uniforms, play-by-play announcers, food vendors, stadium security guards ...... they all look and sound better when the Colts are playing well.

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nate505
10-22-2023, 01:18 PM
Yes!!!!!

Deshaunorable Discharge throws a pick!

Spike
10-22-2023, 01:20 PM
Watson sucks at football and life.

TheMugwump
10-22-2023, 01:20 PM
Was that TY?:D

TY may be the best comp for Downs, and yeah, he looks more and more like him every week.

nate505
10-22-2023, 01:22 PM
Damn, they are hard to run on.

I like the patience of sticking with the run game, but this may be the game where more short passes are needed.

nate505
10-22-2023, 01:23 PM
Wow, great Special Teams play there.

Spike
10-22-2023, 01:24 PM
Nice punt by RS.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 01:24 PM
Damn, they are hard to run on.

I like the patience of sticking with the run game, but this may be the game where more short passes are needed.





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Tom Matte and Jerry Hill will both eventually get it going today.

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TheMugwump
10-22-2023, 01:25 PM
Nelson doesn't look as bad as last year, but he still isn't back. Until last year, he was so strong he would destroy guys and the RB would just ride his hip. That hasn't happened in over 23 games. Long Covid? I can't believe that he stopped caring when he got his new contract, or has gotten weaker, but something is different.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 01:27 PM
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Don't wake C&O up ...... that psychotic fuck thinks that it's 1968, and he's very happy for the time being.

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nate505
10-22-2023, 01:27 PM
The momentum shift is real.

TheMugwump
10-22-2023, 01:27 PM
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Tom Matte and Jerry Hill will both eventually get it going today.

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Was Lenny Moore gone by then?

Spike
10-22-2023, 01:29 PM
Man, the Browns really shit the bed when they gave Watson all that money.

nate505
10-22-2023, 01:32 PM
Great catch by Taylor.

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 01:35 PM
Minshew!!!!!!!!!!

nate505
10-22-2023, 01:35 PM
Oh baby, what a fucking run by Minshew.

That was exceptional.

Chromeburn
10-22-2023, 01:36 PM
Nelson doesn't look as bad as last year, but he still isn't back. Until last year, he was so strong he would destroy guys and the RB would just ride his hip. That hasn't happened in over 23 games. Long Covid? I can't believe that he stopped caring when he got his new contract, or has gotten weaker, but something is different.

He has turf toe this year, if you've ever had it, it robs you of your power because you can't push off of it. Not sure what the injury was last year.

ChaosTheory
10-22-2023, 01:36 PM
No shit? Minshew showed some wheels twice on that drive.

Rushing the ball is what this team needs to do.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 01:36 PM
Was Lenny Moore gone by then ???





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Yes ...... his final season was 1967, when the Colts did not make the playoffs even though they lost ONE GAME ...... Rozelle was retarded.

The 1967 Colts were undefeated heading into the final game of the season ...... imagine going 11-1-2 and not making the post-season. ) :mad:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj0-R3lZyrQ

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WaynesWorld87
10-22-2023, 01:37 PM
Win or lose, I fucking love Shane Steichen.

14 points put up on this uber-stout Browns defense with some very fresh, creative playcalling.

YDFL Commish
10-22-2023, 01:37 PM
Gardner has wheels!

Racehorse
10-22-2023, 01:38 PM
TY may be the best comp for Downs, and yeah, he looks more and more like him every week.

I mentioned it last week, and it seemed like quite a few saw the same thing, but here and on social media.

Chromeburn
10-22-2023, 01:39 PM
Steichen is out scheming them.

nate505
10-22-2023, 01:40 PM
Win or lose, I fucking love Shane Steichen.

14 points put up on this uber-stout Browns defense with some very fresh, creative playcalling.

I shudder to think what this game would be like with Frank Reich.

Heck, Minshew probably wouldn't be here for one.

Spike
10-22-2023, 01:40 PM
Win or lose, I fucking love Shane Steichen.

14 points put up on this uber-stout Browns defense with some very fresh, creative playcalling.

Yep, Shane is such a breath of fresh air from Reich.

I believe we won the coach lottery with SS.

TheMugwump
10-22-2023, 01:41 PM
Don't be hurt, Watson, don't be hurt Watson...

ChaosTheory
10-22-2023, 01:42 PM
$230m guaranteed.

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 01:42 PM
I'd rather Watson not be hurt....we've been bit by these backups plenty of times!

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
10-22-2023, 01:43 PM
Don't be hurt, Watson, don't be hurt Watson...


He is probably going to the concussion tent for evaluation

Chromeburn
10-22-2023, 01:43 PM
Our concrete turf claims another victim. Can't get rid of this stuff fast enough.

Spike
10-22-2023, 01:45 PM
Stupid Colts hurt Watson, damn. Colts needed to treat him with kid gloves with the way he was playing.

HoosierinFL
10-22-2023, 01:45 PM
Would be nice if we could get a long punt return sometime. Can’t remember the last time we had one.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 01:45 PM
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Good overturned call by the referees ...... the angle of the ball was too straight-up-and-down for it to be a catch/INT.

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Spike
10-22-2023, 01:46 PM
Our concrete turf claims another victim. Can't get rid of this stuff fast enough.

It will be changed in 2024, not sure why it took so damn long. At least AR won't have to play on this shit anymore.

nate505
10-22-2023, 01:46 PM
Hahah, Groper Cleveland throws another pick!

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 01:46 PM
https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-21-2020/uW0yH5.gif

Racehorse
10-22-2023, 01:46 PM
Would be nice to score 7 here.

nate505
10-22-2023, 01:47 PM
Our concrete turf claims another victim. Can't get rid of this stuff fast enough.

The fact this garbage was approved in the first place is sickening.

HoosierinFL
10-22-2023, 01:48 PM
I can’t believe Fries somehow couldn’t fall on that

Racehorse
10-22-2023, 01:49 PM
Would be nice to score 7 here.

Well, there goes that idea

ChaosTheory
10-22-2023, 01:50 PM
We were really good with turnovers the first 5 games.

Chromeburn
10-22-2023, 01:52 PM
The fact this garbage was approved in the first place is sickening.

They're changing to the best available next offseason. Still wonder how much a shift to grass would cost.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 01:53 PM
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The Patriots lead the Bills by a score of 10-0 ...... the top AFC teams and their star quarterbacks appear to be beatable so far this season ...... the Bills, the Chiefs, the Bengals, and the Ravens all can be had.

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On the other hand, the Ravens have shell-shocked the Lions, and are up by a score of 21-0.

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WaynesWorld87
10-22-2023, 01:53 PM
I know it's early, but we were in position to take firm-ish control of this game. All the MO on our side, playing incredibly well. Minshew looing great, we had the Browns league-leading defense on their heels, and it all goes away in the blink of an eye. Still don't understand how we didn't fall-on/recover that. That drive even started off with another upbeat, MO feeding play with a nice 8-9 yard run by Moss. Such a shame.

And predictably, P.J. Walker comes in for the injured Watson, and the Browns score a game-tying TD.

Chromeburn
10-22-2023, 01:53 PM
I can’t believe Fries somehow couldn’t fall on that

Loose footballs are like a greased pig. Partly why it makes it so much fun.

YDFL Commish
10-22-2023, 01:56 PM
Traditionally we will make PJ Walker an ALL PRO

Spike
10-22-2023, 02:00 PM
Moss is a beast.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 02:01 PM
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Zack Moss' patience and stutter-steps remind me somewhat of Joseph Addai.

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Spike
10-22-2023, 02:04 PM
LOS just sucks.

Injuries just keep piling up.

Unbelievable that teams are forced to play on this shit.

YDFL Commish
10-22-2023, 02:04 PM
Reminds me more Le'Veon Bell.

WaynesWorld87
10-22-2023, 02:05 PM
There's the drive-killing hold.

Was the hold on the previous Minshew scramble (that was negated by the Browns penalty) on Fries, too?

Spike
10-22-2023, 02:06 PM
Minshew with the 1st down, but of course the refs fuck us again.

Chromeburn
10-22-2023, 02:07 PM
Refs really really calling the holding today

YDFL Commish
10-22-2023, 02:07 PM
Screen to MOC?

Spike
10-22-2023, 02:08 PM
Well instead of a 1st down, we start to implode.

Chromeburn
10-22-2023, 02:09 PM
Didn't the Browns take our ST coach?

Dewey 5
10-22-2023, 02:10 PM
Didn't the Browns take our ST coach?

Yes. Bubba Ventrone

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 02:10 PM
We went Gay too many times!:eek:

HoosierinFL
10-22-2023, 02:11 PM
There's the drive-killing hold.

Was the hold on the previous Minshew scramble (that was negated by the Browns penalty) on Fries, too?

No that one was Raimann

YDFL Commish
10-22-2023, 02:11 PM
The new ST coach has shown me nothing?

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 02:11 PM
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Technically, the defense has given up 17 points so far, but they really haven't played that badly.

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Chromeburn
10-22-2023, 02:12 PM
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Technically, the defense has given up 17 points so far, but they really haven't played that badly.

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Hard with those short fields.

YDFL Commish
10-22-2023, 02:13 PM
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Technically, the defense has given up 17 points so far, but they really haven't played that badly.

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Points are the only thing that matters.

nate505
10-22-2023, 02:13 PM
Turnovers (and I don't know if it counts or not, but IMO the blocked FG is a turnover) are killing this team, yet again.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 02:13 PM
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Good teams overcome questionable calls by the referees, and momentum-killing turnovers ...... get this done today, Colts.

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nate505
10-22-2023, 02:14 PM
Points are the only thing that matters.

Eh, I mean I get it, but the 85 Bears would have allowed a ton of points if their average field position was in their 30 yard line.

WaynesWorld87
10-22-2023, 02:14 PM
Myles Fucking Garrett.

That's all. If it weren't for him, we're likely up 2-3 scores. Dude is single-handedly wrecking us.

Hoopsdoc
10-22-2023, 02:14 PM
The officiating so far has been fucking ridiculous.

Kenny Moore had a pick.

The hold on Fries was was absolute BULLSHIT. Killed that drive.

The officials have controlled this game throughout.

It’s fucking RIDICULOUS.

nate505
10-22-2023, 02:15 PM
The officiating so far has been fucking ridiculous.

Kenny Moore had a pick.

The hold on Fries was was absolute BULLSHIT. Killed that drive.

The officials have controlled this game throughout.

It’s fucking RIDICULOUS.

If they were calling the holding consistently that would be one thing, but they don't seem to be.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 02:15 PM
Points are the only thing that matters.





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Points are the only thing that matters for winning games, but defenses should be judged according to all of the circumstances of the game, not in spite of them.

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TheMugwump
10-22-2023, 02:16 PM
Josh Downs is stepping the fuck up today.

nate505
10-22-2023, 02:16 PM
Downs has been excellent today.

nate505
10-22-2023, 02:16 PM
That was some vintage JT on that run.

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 02:16 PM
If you club somebody trying to knock the ball free and miss the ball....that should be a personal foul and 15 yards!

Spike
10-22-2023, 02:17 PM
Nice run by JT there.

TheMugwump
10-22-2023, 02:17 PM
Best run by JT in over a year.

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 02:18 PM
Pitt!

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 02:19 PM
Another shimmy for Gardner!

TheMugwump
10-22-2023, 02:19 PM
Nice drive to answer and take back momentum.

nate505
10-22-2023, 02:21 PM
This game from Minschew has been super impressive so far. Especially after last week's abortion.

Hoopsdoc
10-22-2023, 02:22 PM
If they were calling the holding consistently that would be one thing, but they don't seem to be.

You will never convince me that Gene Steratores opinion in the booth didn’t influence the call on Kenny Moores interception.

That was an int all day every freaking day.

Complete and total BULLSHIT.

Spike
10-22-2023, 02:22 PM
Nice drive to answer and take back momentum.

Just wish we didn't knock Watson out of the game.

WaynesWorld87
10-22-2023, 02:22 PM
Nice drive to answer and take back momentum.
We've been very resilient today. After their strip-sack and quick TD, we came back and moved the ball right back down the field. I know it ended in a blocked FG, but a very questionable holding call killed that drive.

Hoopsdoc
10-22-2023, 02:22 PM
Damnit. Now Brent’s is hurt.

Spike
10-22-2023, 02:23 PM
Damn, Brents is hurt.

Colts need to play in London the rest of the year.

Dewey 5
10-22-2023, 02:24 PM
That turf just sucks.

nate505
10-22-2023, 02:24 PM
This crappy turf is just claiming victims left and right.

WaynesWorld87
10-22-2023, 02:25 PM
They're going to overturn it. It's no different than our first INT that got overturned.

TheMugwump
10-22-2023, 02:26 PM
They are going to overturn this one as well.

nate505
10-22-2023, 02:26 PM
Damn, that's not a pick. Sigh.

Racehorse
10-22-2023, 02:26 PM
Buck is an awesome player

Hoopsdoc
10-22-2023, 02:26 PM
Incomplete.

nate505
10-22-2023, 02:26 PM
Not even an argument about that one. Great effort, but not a pick.

Spike
10-22-2023, 02:27 PM
Buckner with an almost int. Man, that would have been huge.

Racehorse
10-22-2023, 02:28 PM
Kwity is a stud, too

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 02:30 PM
You will never convince me that Gene Steratores opinion in the booth didn’t influence the call on Kenny Moores interception.

That was an int all day every freaking day.

Complete and total BULLSHIT.

Yep, I have noticed that bullshit all season, the expert should keep his mouth shut until those designated to make the decision have spoken!

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
10-22-2023, 02:31 PM
Colts are saying Brents is QUESTIONABLE to return with a quad injury

nate505
10-22-2023, 02:33 PM
Sheesh, that Browns DT looked like he was playing against kids on that sack.

nate505
10-22-2023, 02:33 PM
Fuuuuuuckkkk......

Hoopsdoc
10-22-2023, 02:34 PM
Nelson sucks ass.

nate505
10-22-2023, 02:34 PM
Freeland got killed there.

I'm all for aggressiveness, but you have to run it there.

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 02:34 PM
Come on....too stupid for words.

HoosierinFL
10-22-2023, 02:35 PM
Literally what the hell was Freeland doing? Just a hand slap at Garrett?

WaynesWorld87
10-22-2023, 02:35 PM
I can't recall a game I've ever seen where one defensive player single-handedly set-up or directly lead to this many points for his team. This is something amazing.

That's 17 of their 24 points that have been directly caused by Garrett's brilliance. We are dominating them otherwise. But Myles Garrett is dominating us in a way that's almost unheard of.

Spike
10-22-2023, 02:35 PM
Garrett is killing us.

Dewey 5
10-22-2023, 02:36 PM
Garrett is killing us.

He kills everyone

Hoopsdoc
10-22-2023, 02:36 PM
That’s on our highest paid left guard in the NFL.

He completely whiffed and put them behind the chains.

Chromeburn
10-22-2023, 02:36 PM
Um run the ball man. You have Miles Garret lined up on a rookie backed into your endzone? Gonna chalk this up to rookie coach over aggression.

TheMugwump
10-22-2023, 02:37 PM
The one positive is that Coach Shane makes better halftime adjustments than most, so hopefully they move someone over to help on Garrett for the second half.

WaynesWorld87
10-22-2023, 02:38 PM
Garrett is killing us.
That's an understatement. He shot us dead, hopped in his car and ran over us 3-4 times for good measure, and now he's just toying with the body.

Spike
10-22-2023, 02:39 PM
Colts can't help themselves from playing stupid ass football.

ChaosTheory
10-22-2023, 02:39 PM
Lost by 17 last week when we gave up 17pts off turnovers.

Today would be a double digit lead without devastating turnovers.

nate505
10-22-2023, 02:39 PM
What the fuck...why aren't you running there.

I like Steichen, but that is clock management stupidity right there.

Chromeburn
10-22-2023, 02:39 PM
I can't recall a game I've ever seen where one defensive player single-handedly set-up or directly lead to this many points for his team. This is something amazing.

That's 17 of their 24 points that have been directly caused by Garrett's brilliance. We are dominating them otherwise. But Myles Garrett is dominating us in a way that's almost unheard of.

Lawrence Taylor. Reggie White. Bruce Smith. Ray Lewis. Ed Reed. Bob Sanders. Suh. JJ Watt. Off the top of my head.

WaynesWorld87
10-22-2023, 02:40 PM
Ok Steichen, still love ya, but that's some questionable playcalling there. Just run it and get the clock down to 40-seconds and pin the Browns deep with little time to get in FG range. That, coupled with the pass play from our own endzone with Garrett lurking were big headscratchers.

nate505
10-22-2023, 02:41 PM
They would have like 30 seconds left without that idiotic pass call.

I still can't believe how stupid that was.

TheMugwump
10-22-2023, 02:42 PM
When did the whole team start playing and coaching like idiots?

Hoopsdoc
10-22-2023, 02:43 PM
Well, they deserve to lose this game.

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 02:44 PM
The Colts defense has played pretty well, but you'd never know it if you just saw the score!

WaynesWorld87
10-22-2023, 02:44 PM
When did the whole team start playing and coaching like idiots?
As soon as Myles Garrett started donkey-dicking us.

Hell, just as a spectator from my living room, I'm nervous every offensive snap expecting/waiting for Garrett o do something to wreak-havoc.

nate505
10-22-2023, 02:44 PM
Way to go Steichen. You just gifted them three points there. Gifted it to them.

rm1369
10-22-2023, 02:45 PM
Rookie HC so hopefully he learns, but play calling cost the team 10 points in last 2 minutes.

Spike
10-22-2023, 02:45 PM
Nobody misses a damn FG against us, nobody.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 02:46 PM
Nobody misses a damn FG against us ...... NOBODY.





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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXDKLDeP4no

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YDFL Commish
10-22-2023, 02:46 PM
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Points are the only thing that matters for winning games, but defenses should be judged according to all of the circumstances of the game, not in spite of them.

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Fuck that...step up and make a stop! there is no pity party!

YDFL Commish
10-22-2023, 02:47 PM
Rookie HC so hopefully he learns, but play calling cost the team 10 points in last 2 minutes.

I agree with that.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 02:52 PM
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Technically, the defense has given up 17 points so far, but they really haven't played that badly.

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Points are the only thing that matters.






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Points are the only thing that matters for winning games, but defenses should be judged according to all of the circumstances of the game, not in spite of them.

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Fuck that ...... step up, and make a stop !! There is no pity-party !!!





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This has nothing to do with having a pity-party. Anybody that knows anything about football knows that context should be read into how the offense, the defense, and the special teams are all judged.

If you want to insist on judging the different aspects of a team's performance like a little kid that's watching a game for the first time, fine ...... it's not based in reality.

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YDFL Commish
10-22-2023, 03:02 PM
They get paid to make stops it's that simple!

AlwaysSunnyinIndy
10-22-2023, 03:03 PM
Colts are saying Brents is QUESTIONABLE to return with a quad injury


Colts have now ruled Brents OUT for the rest of the game.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 03:04 PM
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I liked the run-call on 1st down, but not so much on 2nd down ...... it was a little too predictable.

That said, we may have to run the ball a lot in general to off-set monster on the other side of the ball who has been terrorizing Minshew.

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nate505
10-22-2023, 03:07 PM
Good defensive stand.

It's nice to see what they can do when the Browns aren't starting in Colts territory.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 03:09 PM
They get paid to make stops, it's that simple !!!





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Yes.

And they also get paid to not allow the offense the fumble the ball in their end-zone, and allow a touchdown for the opposition.

You're really on fire today, YDFL.

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nate505
10-22-2023, 03:11 PM
Ugh....so many fucking turnovers.

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 03:12 PM
Minshew is too inconsistent to be a starter!

nate505
10-22-2023, 03:12 PM
They get paid to make stops it's that simple!

So let me guess. With the Browns starting this drive on the Colts' 42, it will be the defense's fault if the Browns score here.

YDFL Commish
10-22-2023, 03:12 PM
That's all on Pittman!

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 03:12 PM
Talking heads will be having orgasms over the Cleveland defense, but most of this shit is unforced errors!

YDFL Commish
10-22-2023, 03:13 PM
So let me guess. With the Browns starting this drive on the Colts' 42, it will be the defense's fault if the Browns score here.

If they score a TD yes.

Spike
10-22-2023, 03:13 PM
Well, Minshew!:mad:

Damn.

Chromeburn
10-22-2023, 03:14 PM
Colts have now ruled Brents OUT for the rest of the game.

Quad injury

nate505
10-22-2023, 03:16 PM
If they score a TD yes.

I mean if that's the standard the defense has been great today.

Literally two of the three TDs the Browns have got were off turnovers.

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 03:16 PM
No Spike, nobody ever misses a FG against us!

Spike
10-22-2023, 03:17 PM
Defense did their job.

YDFL Commish
10-22-2023, 03:18 PM
Kept us in the game good job!

Spike
10-22-2023, 03:22 PM
Downs was a hell of a pick by Ballard.

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 03:23 PM
I hate Cleveland, the team, their fans, and the city!

Spike
10-22-2023, 03:23 PM
JT is looking better this game. Starting to get into game shape looks like.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 03:27 PM
I hate Cleveland, the team, their fans, and the city !!!





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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM

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CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 03:27 PM
Welcome back JT!

nate505
10-22-2023, 03:27 PM
JT has been great on this drive.

Spike
10-22-2023, 03:28 PM
Big Q got us that 1st down.

Spike
10-22-2023, 03:28 PM
JT is burning it up now.

nate505
10-22-2023, 03:29 PM
I would have been a bit furious if JT didn't get the TD on this drive. He earned it.

Ok, a bit of hyperbole, I'm just happy they got a TD.

ChoppedWood
10-22-2023, 03:30 PM
Q and Taylor starting to look real nice again! Love it!

nate505
10-22-2023, 03:30 PM
That stupid FG at the end of the half is really looming large now.

Spike
10-22-2023, 03:30 PM
JT with the TD.

For those who didn't want to pay the man, this is why he needed to be paid.

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 03:30 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM

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LOL...that is the main reason I hate it, I use to pickup cable TV equipment and had to drive through Cleveland once a month, always working on the roads there. Only city worse was Milwaukee!

Spike
10-22-2023, 03:31 PM
Moss is very good, JT is great!

Spike
10-22-2023, 03:32 PM
It's the Colts turn for a couple of turnovers now.

nate505
10-22-2023, 03:32 PM
Damnit, that would have been an incredible pick.

nate505
10-22-2023, 03:33 PM
What an absolute horseshit roughing call.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 03:33 PM
That stupid FG at the end of the half is really looming large now.





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It is.

But good teams overcome bad plays, bad coaching decisions, turnovers, and questionable calls by the referees ......all of which the Colts have sustained today.

If the Colts can win this game in spite of it all, we have got ourselves a good damned team. ) :cool:

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CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 03:34 PM
Accidental contact with the head....not always called but always called on us!

nate505
10-22-2023, 03:36 PM
Finally, a stroke of luck for the Colts!!!!

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 03:36 PM
Our defense is playing one hell of a game!

Spike
10-22-2023, 03:37 PM
Just as good as a turnover there.

About time we caught a break.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 03:37 PM
It's the Colts' turn for a couple of turnovers, now.





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Will you settle for a turnover on downs ???

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CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 03:37 PM
Too conservative calling.....

ChoppedWood
10-22-2023, 03:38 PM
Pierce going up and getting it!!!

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 03:38 PM
Pierce is a beast!:D

nate505
10-22-2023, 03:38 PM
Yes, as great as Garrett has been, he's had two bad offsides plays today.

Racehorse
10-22-2023, 03:42 PM
We need to win the 4th quarter. Not an easy task, but possible, if the defense stays strong and doesn't give up the huge plays.

ChoppedWood
10-22-2023, 03:42 PM
Come on Pittman- that is fucking 6!!!

Racehorse
10-22-2023, 03:43 PM
That was a TD if caught

nate505
10-22-2023, 03:43 PM
Take the damn points

ChoppedWood
10-22-2023, 03:44 PM
We need to win the 4th quarter. Not an easy task, but possible, if the defense stays strong and doesn't give up the huge plays.

Keep heating up Walker- he is going to give us 1 if not 2--- GOTTA BRING THE PRESSURE ON HIM!

Spike
10-22-2023, 03:45 PM
Damn glad SS took the points.

Racehorse
10-22-2023, 03:49 PM
Time for a sack

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 03:49 PM
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The Browns have had 11 possessions so far today, and the Colts' defense has made 6 stops.

Let's see what they do here on possession #12.

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CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 03:50 PM
Brents might have picked that dead duck off!

nate505
10-22-2023, 03:51 PM
What a fucking horrible flag.

The refs are just bad today.

Ahh, good. They picked it up.

Racehorse
10-22-2023, 03:51 PM
Kenny came to play today

ChoppedWood
10-22-2023, 03:52 PM
Keep heating up Walker- he is going to give us 1 if not 2--- GOTTA BRING THE PRESSURE ON HIM!

There's the first! There will be another in scramble time!

nate505
10-22-2023, 03:52 PM
Interception!!!

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 03:53 PM
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The Browns have had 11 possessions so far today, and the Colts' defense has made 6 stops.

Let's see what they do here on possession #12.

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7 stops in 12 possessions, now.

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AlwaysSunnyinIndy
10-22-2023, 03:54 PM
Interception!!!


Both starting safeties for the Colts with an INT in this game.

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 03:54 PM
Kenny came to play today

https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-21-2020/uW0yH5.gif

Too good not to post twice in one game!

HoosierinFL
10-22-2023, 03:54 PM
That was kinda a dumb play call for the browns. Sure it’s like a punt, but they could have played for a long FG there to retake the lead. We just gotta be smart here and gets in yards.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 03:55 PM
It's the Colts turn for a couple of turnovers now.







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Will you settle for a turnover on downs ???

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Spike asked for "a couple" of turnovers ...... there's (essentially) 2 in a row.

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nate505
10-22-2023, 03:57 PM
Pretty conservative drive, but I get it.

HoosierinFL
10-22-2023, 03:59 PM
I don’t understand, we haven’t seen JT on the field since his TD. I thought maybe we’d ride him to finish out the game

Spike
10-22-2023, 04:00 PM
Atta boy refs.

Racehorse
10-22-2023, 04:01 PM
How do they overturn it after they called it? BS

Spike
10-22-2023, 04:01 PM
Atta boy refs.

Never mind you dumb fucks.

ChoppedWood
10-22-2023, 04:02 PM
Whew boy 58 yarder coming up!

TheMugwump
10-22-2023, 04:02 PM
I don’t understand, we haven’t seen JT on the field since his TD. I thought maybe we’d ride him to finish out the game

He was out there for the wildcat one play, but yeah. He was getting a rhythm and the O-line was wearing down the Browns defensive front, and then he kinda disappeared.

nate505
10-22-2023, 04:03 PM
Sheesh, now I know how the Ravens fans felt a few weeks ago.

ChoppedWood
10-22-2023, 04:03 PM
He was out there for the wildcat one play, but yeah. He was getting a rhythm and the O-line was wearing down the Browns defensive front, and then he kinda disappeared.

That's the one thing I do not understand about the RB by committee thing- it lends itself to not riding the hot hand. JT was fucking dealin!

Racehorse
10-22-2023, 04:03 PM
He was out there for the wildcat one play, but yeah. He was getting a rhythm and the O-line was wearing down the Browns defensive front, and then he kinda disappeared.

I bet we see a heavy dose this next drive

Spike
10-22-2023, 04:04 PM
Yep, field goal kickers never miss against us.

That kick would have been good from 95 yards.

Spike
10-22-2023, 04:05 PM
Damn, NE beat Buffalo.

Colts And Orioles
10-22-2023, 04:05 PM
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The Bills just lost ...... they are 4-3, now.

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ChoppedWood
10-22-2023, 04:05 PM
To
THE
FUCKING
HOUSE!

nate505
10-22-2023, 04:05 PM
Fuck yes!!!!!!

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 04:06 PM
Pitt got `em!

Racehorse
10-22-2023, 04:06 PM
Loving Pitt!!!!

Spike
10-22-2023, 04:07 PM
MR Pittman with the TD.

CletusPyle
10-22-2023, 04:08 PM
Pittman runs out to thank Gay for saving his ass!