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ChaosTheory
10-08-2023, 04:44 PM
Good game. Definitely want to re-watch since I was in a noisy bar for 3 quarters, but I actually felt like they played better than the final score.
RICHARDSON:
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-Elephant in the room out of the way... In five games, AR has finished one game, missed one game, and been knocked out early in three games. Yes, he needs to protect himself better... but this is something that just comes with the territory.
He's a running QB. Yes, he has arm talent and can make some impressive throws. But we drafted him at #4 because he 250lbs. and runs a 4.4. If you're going to build around that skillset, you don't stop calling plays for him because you (or he) is scared.
I don't want to hear that running QB's aren't any more likely to get injured. I understand pocket QB's can also get injured, but it's simple math... there are more opportunities for a QB like Richardson to get hurt. Not just big hits, but awkward falls, twisted limbs, non-contact injuries, etc.
Again, he absolutely needs to protect himself better... but it is what it is. Glad the X-Ray was negative, but that doesn't mean he'll be back soon. Hopefully, because he always looks good while he's in.
OFFENSE:
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-Zack Moss is a fucking football player. I'm glad the JT stuff is behind us, but Moss once again made the case that Ballard could've not paid JT (yet) and I'd be ok with it.
-Water under the bridge, and now that we have both JT and Moss in the backfield... if/when JT returns to form, how scary is that? That's not even considering AR when he hopefully stays healthy. Dangerous backfield.
-Offensive line so far has made some of those off-season conversations seem ludicrous as I'd hoped/expected. The vets look better, Raimann (pre-injury) and Fries improved, and our backups have been a pleasant surprise. French and especially Freeland have impressed stepping up.
-Minshew continues to be a nice (and needed) luxury. Super efficient again and thankfully mixed in some deeper shots. This caliber of QB play is all this team has needed for a couple years.
-That final drive was fantastic, 14 plays, 7:03, end with a FG, and go up by 7 with 1-minute on the clock.
-Downs was the standout today. Kid looks better and better. A very Manning-era type receiver. MPJ had a couple good plays, Pierce didn't do anything until that final drive where he had a two big 3rd downs (PI and first down catch).
-I like Steichen's calling. I know people didn't like the 4th down at the end of the half, which I don't dispute... but it's hard for me to criticize because I like the aggression, and the play was there all day (Granson was held a bit which led to Minshew leading him too far).
DEFENSE:
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-Overall pretty good, aside from that shit coming out of half time. I feel like the biggest thing I noticed was just solid tackling. Am I wrong about that?
-Front 7 still super solid. Henry was 13 for 43yds. Solid tackles, never let him spring one. Only one sack, but 8 QB hits and felt like much better pressure in the 2nd half.
-4th down stop was tremendous. Buckner and Franklin absolutely stonewalled Henry.
-Need to re-watch the secondary, but I thought they played fine mostly. Hopkins made it look bad at times, but he's good at beating zones and a couple times the pass-rush just allowed too much time.
What else?
Mr. Session
10-08-2023, 04:45 PM
ZACH “my backup makes 42 mil” MOSS
Fuck Tennessee
Racehorse
10-08-2023, 04:55 PM
Good game. Definitely want to re-watch since I was in a noisy bar for 3 quarters, but I actually felt like they played better than the final score.
RICHARDSON:
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-Elephant in the room out of the way... In five games, AR has finished one game, missed one game, and been knocked out early in three games. Yes, he needs to protect himself better... but this is something that just comes with the territory.
He's a running QB. Yes, he has arm talent and can make some impressive throws. But we drafted him at #4 because he 250lbs. and runs a 4.4. If you're going to build around that skillset, you don't stop calling plays for him because you (or he) is scared.
I don't want to hear that running QB's aren't any more likely to get injured. I understand pocket QB's can also get injured, but it's simple math... there are more opportunities for a QB like Richardson to get hurt. Not just big hits, but awkward falls, twisted limbs, non-contact injuries, etc.
Again, he absolutely needs to protect himself better... but it is what it is. Glad the X-Ray was negative, but that doesn't mean he'll be back soon. Hopefully, because he always looks good while he's in.
OFFENSE:
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-Zack Moss is a fucking football player. I'm glad the JT stuff is behind us, but Moss once again made the case that Ballard could've not paid JT (yet) and I'd be ok with it.
-Water under the bridge, and now that we have both JT and Moss in the backfield... if/when JT returns to form, how scary is that? That's not even considering AR when he hopefully stays healthy. Dangerous backfield.
-Offensive line so far has made some of those off-season conversations seem ludicrous as I'd hoped/expected. The vets look better, Raimann (pre-injury) and Fries improved, and our backups have been a pleasant surprise. French and especially Freeland have impressed stepping up.
-Minshew continues to be a nice (and needed) luxury. Super efficient again and thankfully mixed in some deeper shots. This caliber of QB play is all this team has needed for a couple years.
-That final drive was fantastic, 14 plays, 7:03, end with a FG, and go up by 7 with 1-minute on the clock.
-Downs was the standout today. Kid looks better and better. A very Manning-era type receiver. MPJ had a couple good plays, Pierce didn't do anything until that final drive where he had a two big 3rd downs (PI and first down catch).
-I like Steichen's calling. I know people didn't like the 4th down at the end of the half, which I don't dispute... but it's hard for me to criticize because I like the aggression, and the play was there all day (Granson was held a bit which led to Minshew leading him too far).
DEFENSE:
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-Overall pretty good, aside from that shit coming out of half time. I feel like the biggest thing I noticed was just solid tackling. Am I wrong about that?
-Front 7 still super solid. Henry was 13 for 43yds. Solid tackles, never let him spring one. Only one sack, but 8 QB hits and felt like much better pressure in the 2nd half.
-4th down stop was tremendous. Buckner and Franklin absolutely stonewalled Henry.
-Need to re-watch the secondary, but I thought they played fine mostly. Hopkins made it look bad at times, but he's good at beating zones and a couple times the pass-rush just allowed too much time.
What else?Brents covered DHop pretty well. Just a veteran knows how to win those catches. Brent’s will be a stud CB for us. DHop made the interior defense look like trash, though. That’s what he has always done to us. Glad we won despite this.
I said in the game thread that Downs remind me of TY. He just gets open. Hasn’t gotten the flash TD yet, but I think it is coming.
Simmons was a non-factor, but Buckner was a menace with Franklin behind him. I like the defensive trend. Should be even better by the end of the year if we don’t lose players.
Speaking of losing players, Paye was out, and we still played solid defense. If he had played, I think he’d have sacked Tannehill at least once. Also, Stuard played well spelling Speed in the absence of Leonard. Our defense has some solid depth, outside of the CB group.
After god knows how many years the colts only fell for a few of the Titans counter plays.
Hey Coach, kick the field goal with less than 10 secounds in the first half.
HoosierinFL
10-08-2023, 05:18 PM
I think so far this team has proven at least one point:
In the offseason (and last season) debate about whether the bad team was because of Ballard's roster or Reich's coaching, I think we know the answer.
Position wise the only big change has been QB. But the bigger change is cleaning house in head coaching and offensive coaching/scheme. It's been a world of difference.
There were a lot of prognosticators expecting the Colts to be a bad football team. Power rankings had us at 29 or 30. Well it wasn't that bad. The defense was good and just needed help from an offense that can score, and about as important, keep drives alive.
jasperhobbs
10-08-2023, 05:18 PM
How did the tackle Freeland look? Titans didn't get many sacks so he must have been decent
How did the tackle Freeland look? Titans didn't get many sacks so he must have been decent
The O line was pretty good. Head coach needs to stop throwing away points
YDFL Commish
10-08-2023, 06:06 PM
How did the tackle Freeland look? Titans didn't get many sacks so he must have been decent
I didn't see Freeland lose too many battles at all.
Oldcolt
10-08-2023, 06:33 PM
I didn't see Freeland lose too many battles at all.
Don't you think that a ton of this has got to be coaching and play calling?
I've been a Colt fan since the Unitas days. For the first time since Shula I actually feel like we may have an advantage at head coach. I have always felt since then that we won when we did because we had better players, never felt like we out coached people. Steichen makes me feel like we start with an advantage most games. If AR can turn out not to be as brittle as he appears we should be in for a really fun run.
YDFL Commish
10-08-2023, 06:38 PM
Don't you think that a ton of this has got to be coaching and play calling?
Some, but not facing Aaron Donald helps a ton also.
Hoopsdoc
10-08-2023, 07:22 PM
1, Freeland is going to be good. He was good today, in his second start. Very impressive.
2. Downs is already good. He’s like a poor man’s TY. Not as explosive but a better possession guy. Very reliable already.
3. I really like Ogletree. He has skills.
4. What can you say about Franklin? He’s a stud.
5. Brent’s is going to be a stud. He reminds me a lot of prime Vontae Davis. Big, physical, and skilled.
6. Could not be more impressed with Steichen. That dude can coach.
7. Fries is also very good.
Racehorse
10-08-2023, 07:24 PM
I didn't see Freeland lose too many battles at all.
They lined Simmons up there a bit, with little success.
apballin
10-08-2023, 07:57 PM
Can’t say enough about Moss or Franklin
Moss looked like Marshawn lynch and Franklin looked like Bobby Wagner very impressive
ChaosTheory
10-08-2023, 08:04 PM
Can’t say enough about Moss or Franklin
Moss looked like Marshawn lynch and Franklin looked like Bobby Wagner very impressive
I meant to mention this, too... after the 4th down stuff, I glanced at a Titans board for shits...
One upvoted post was like, "How can we not do our strength against an average defense?"
We're still in the phase where our guys playing well will be labeled as their guys playing bad. If they can stay healthy, eventually they'll open eyes.
ukcolt
10-09-2023, 03:37 AM
We have an excellent defensive line against the run generally. Got to give some props to Ballard, Ebukam, Bryan and Martin have all played some really good snaps. Paye and Dayo are generally pretty good against the run as well.
Brents looks like he is going to be good. The other rookie Jones didn't get picked apart, not sure how well he played. But not getting torched is a good starting point.
Breeland held up well, much better overall performance than last week.
Fries has been a really pleasant surprise, consistency wise, he has possibly been our best offensive lineman.
It looks like we might actually have 8 offensive lineman that are serviceable in Raimann, Nelson, Kelly, Fries, Smith, Freeland, French and Sills. Which is certainly not something i thought at the start of the season.
We have got some production out of our 7th rounders in recent years, in commentary they mentioned Fries, Jones and Franklin, there is also Rodney Thomas and Matthew Adams wasn't too shabby either.
BCN#1
10-09-2023, 04:35 AM
Screw the "experts" and power rankings... I hope we keep flying under the radar before bursting out and surprising teams!:cool:
albany ed
10-09-2023, 05:54 AM
Great game, kudos to everyone. I can't say this enough, CONVERT TO A GRASS FIELD. How many fuckin' concussions does it take? Think of it as an investment. Even ARs injury might not have happened on grass or at least not as severe.
njcoltfan
10-09-2023, 06:05 AM
Great game, kudos to everyone. I can't say this enough, CONVERT TO A GRASS FIELD. How many fuckin' concussions does it take? Think of it as an investment. Even ARs injury might not have happened on grass or at least not as severe.
Just curious, can the Colts change to grass seeing that Lucas Oil is a domed stadium ??
albany ed
10-09-2023, 06:17 AM
Just curious, can the Colts change to grass seeing that Lucas Oil is a domed stadium ??
Not sure, but the roof does open so it should be possible.
Mr. Session
10-09-2023, 06:23 AM
Not sure, but the roof does open so it should be possible.
I imagine the hurdle there is water & plumbing related.
I don't see the NFL folding on that, ever.
albany ed
10-09-2023, 06:38 AM
I imagine the hurdle there is water & plumbing related.
I don't see the NFL folding on that, ever.
I think you're right, I just found this:
Nearly impossible
The switch to natural grass, for Lucas Oil, seems nearly impossible. Unlike other stadiums, Lucas Oil is not equipped with the irrigation and drainage required to grow and sustain natural grass. The implementation of the necessary irrigation and drainage systems would be very costly for the stadium.
I think you're right, I just found this:
Nearly impossible
The switch to natural grass, for Lucas Oil, seems nearly impossible. Unlike other stadiums, Lucas Oil is not equipped with the irrigation and drainage required to grow and sustain natural grass. The implementation of the necessary irrigation and drainage systems would be very costly for the stadium.
The stadium is used year round with many events from college basket ball to conventions. They are going to put a pool in there for a swim event this year. The. Colts have a possibility of 12 dates every year. If they built the stadium outside the interstate loop they might have had the space to have a mobile turf like Arizona but it would not be practicle for the covention / non sports related events that go one every week in Indy.
Racehorse
10-09-2023, 09:29 AM
I meant to mention this, too... after the 4th down stuff, I glanced at a Titans board for shits...
One upvoted post was like, "How can we not do our strength against an average defense?"
We're still in the phase where our guys playing well will be labeled as their guys playing bad. If they can stay healthy, eventually they'll open eyes.
Titans fans rarely give the Colts any props. It is what it is. This defense is solid, with backups playing well when spelling a starter. We have excellent scouts who find football players, and we have good coaches who teach them the pro game. The future is bright.
omahacolt
10-09-2023, 09:46 AM
Just curious, can the Colts change to grass seeing that Lucas Oil is a domed stadium ??
not unless they do a major renovation to add drainage
not unless they do a major renovation to add drainage
Grow lights, and heating. Opening the roof for sun light during winter isnt an option.
The city needs the facility making money year round to justify its construction.
Oldcolt
10-09-2023, 10:28 AM
Well I was going to write an note about how cheap Irsay and Indianapolis were to not spend the 'millions' to change to natural gas. Decided to look it up. There are estimates of one billion (yes billion) dollars to change to natural gas. Artificial grass it is.
Brylok
10-09-2023, 01:45 PM
They're not switching to grass. Good God...
CletusPyle
10-09-2023, 02:26 PM
They're not switching to grass. Good God...
No, it's not possible. Arizona does it because the entire field is moved outside on a giant rack, that is not possible here. But a safer field is needed ASAP!
Well I was going to write an note about how cheap Irsay and Indianapolis were to not spend the 'millions' to change to natural gas. Decided to look it up. There are estimates of one billion (yes billion) dollars to change to natural gas. Artificial grass it is.
Then they need to improve or recreate artificial turf. Sounds like a job for Purdue U.
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