3 year deal for jt

[omahacolt]

he got his money


42 million with 26.5 guaranteed

[omahacolt]

i would not have paid him yet if it were me


but oh well. congrats to him

[HoosierinFL]

Holy shit really? Without playing a snap?

[omahacolt]

Holy shit really? Without playing a snap?

yeah i am surprised as well

[TheMugwump]

I'm happy as shit about this. JT is one of the top 3 RB in the league, and while Moss has been holding it down, he isn't a gamebreaker.

Things are looking up in Indy. AR, Taylor, Pittman, and Downs make a decent group of plus weapons. Fix the secondary somehow, and they can take the division, and next year they may make some noise.

[JAFF]

https://www.wthr.com/article/sports/nfl/indianapolis-colts/jonathan-taylor-activated-ahead-week-5-game-against-titans-lucas-oil-stadium-colts/531-a63d4ba2-9b80-4a0d-b2d3-9c53493f68a6

[omahacolt]

I'm happy as shit about this. JT is one of the top 3 RB in the league, and while Moss has been holding it down, he isn't a gamebreaker.

Things are looking up in Indy. AR, Taylor, Pittman, and Downs make a decent group of plus weapons. Fix the secondary somehow, and they can take the division, and next year they may make some noise.

need another wr and one of our te's needs to step up. but not a terrible group


i have no faith in pierce to ever be a really good reciever

[Discflinger]

And if Woods can start where he left off...Woo boy!

[Discflinger]

Anyone know if that deal includes this year?

[Kray007]

A few points.

Great Running Backs don’t grow on trees.

They no longer are faced with the need to spend a premium draft pick on his replacement.

You win championships by assembling elite rosters.

Taylor makes Richardson better, gives the team a much more dynamic Offense.

The salary cap is exploding, which makes his cap hit easier to absorb.

It’s not as if Ballard was going to use the cap space Taylor carves out to pursue help in free agency.

[TheMugwump]

need another wr and one of our te's needs to step up. but not a terrible group


i have no faith in pierce to ever be a really good reciever

100%. For some reason Pierce can not get separation, so every one of his catches the past two years has been contested. And doesn't matter to me which TE steps up, but one of them needs to be a consistent presence.

[nate505]

I'm legit happy for the guy, and happy that this is all behind the Colts and he will be a part of the team for a while. He's a genuine good person.

Thought his agent was a fucking toolbag and a half, and I'm a bit disappointed in him he hired that clown, but whatever, it's all over now I hope.

[Chromeburn]

Kinda torn on this. Feel like they maybe rewarded his bad behavior? Although I guess they wouldn't discuss it till he got back on the field.

JT is unique in that he is a TD waiting to happen every time he touches the ball. Not many running backs can say that, and it is a unique weapon. If we want decent production we have that with Moss. If we want an explosive weapon you have that with JT.

Ultimately I guess, if you let him walk, how are you replacing the explosive plays he brings? You need guys that can do that in an offense. If he doesn't, who does? This might free up the passing game some bringing that safety down.

[Racehorse]

Anyone know if that deal includes this year?

Three years added to this year

[Racehorse]

I bet Doyel feels like the tool he is.

[CletusPyle]

Well done...it was the right thing to do, I'm sure the Colts doctors have had a good look and JT is in good health and ready to go! I think we can make the playoffs!

[JAFF]

I bet Doyel feels like the tool he is.

No. He enjoys being a tool

[Dam8610]

Anyone know if that deal includes this year?

The wording in all the articles says "extension", which implies that the 3 years start next season. This effectively buys out the franchise period and adds a year. At that point, the Colts will be starting to look at a Richardson extension provides he continues on his current trajectory, so this buys Ballard 3 years to find Taylor's replacement. It won't be Zack Moss.

[Kray007]

To a certain extent, Chris Ballard brought this upon himself. Over the past few years, how many times has he stepped up to a podium, after not signing free agents, and explained that the team “pays its own?”

How many times, after signing guys like Nelson, Leonard, Kelly, and Smith, has he said that position makes no difference; that you pay elite players, no matter where they play.

It seems obvious that the plan had been to let Taylor play out the season, and then reward him; but sometimes, the best laid plans of mice and men go astray. Thankfully, both sides were able to suck it up, set, egos aside, and get a deal done.

When Jim Irsay ends up standing on the podium after the Super Bowl in a couple of years and hoists the Lombardi trophy above his head, all of this will be forgotten.

[Spike]

Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kray007]

The wording in all the articles says "extension", which implies that the 3 years start next season. This effectively buys out the franchise period and adds a year. At that point, the Colts will be starting to look at a Richardson extension provides he continues on his current trajectory, so this buys Ballard 3 years to find Taylor's replacement. It won't be Zack Moss.

For the next 3 years, he’ll be in the prime of his career.

[YDFL Commish]

Totally unexpected but exciting news! JT got paid handsomely. I've got a feeling that next season will bring some re-structures or extensions as well as possible release of Shaq.

[apballin]

He’s back mfers!!!!

Bring on the Tennessee whiskey

[Colts And Orioles]

o


In 1993, ) Emmitt Smith ) held out in a contract dispute and missed the first 2 games of that season.

The Cowboys started that 1993 season at 0-2 without Smith.

Smith eventually came back in Week 3, won the NFL MVP in spite of missing those first 2 games, and the Cowboys went on to win the Super Bowl that year.



Cowboys Pay Big for Smith: After Two Losses, Dallas Finally Gives Running Back What He Wanted: ‘Thurman Thomas Money’

(By Danny Robbins)

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-09-17-sp-36152-story.html



**************************


Something very similar happened 7 years earlier in 1986, when star running back) Joe Morris ) missed all of training camp due to a holdout ...... he literally signed a contract hours before the team's season-opener against the Cowboys. Morris went on to set a franchise-record 1,516 yards rushing in only 15 games while helping the Giants win the Super Bowl that season.



Morris Signs Pact Worth $2.2 Million

(Special to the NYT)

https://www.nytimes.com/1986/09/09/sports/morris-signs-pact-worth-2.2-million.html

o

[Hoopsdoc]

Gotta be honest, I did not see this coming.

That said, I’m glad it got done, provided JT is the guy he’s always been.

My issue was never with Taylor, it was with the way he went about trying to get his extension.

[IndyNorm]

Crazy that the saga ended so abruptly. Overall probably a good thing, but agree w/ Chromeburn and a couple of others that this could set a bad precedent. MPJ is probably pretty pissed off right now.

[Mr. Session]

Crazy that the saga ended so abruptly. Overall probably a good thing, but agree w/ Chromeburn and a couple of others that this could set a bad precedent. MPJ is probably pretty pissed off right now.

To be fair, Pitt has never enabled an argument that he’s the premier player at his position.

My expectations for Taylor at this point will be perfection. I’m glad he’s taken care of.

[Oldcolt]

So nobody (writers) knew shit yet they all wrote tons as if they were not just pulling it out of their asses. Ballard definitely has a philosophy and follows it. JT did what he had to and played the press beautifully in his press conference. I like that they paid him before he played a game. The man has pride and nothing is gained by making it obvious that you hold all the cards and are the boss. Steichen also deserves not to have to deal with this shit continuing and has made clear that JT fits any offense. Good day to be a Colt fan.

[JAFF]

So nobody (writers) knew shit yet they all wrote tons as if they were not just pulling it out of their asses. Ballard definitely has a philosophy and follows it. JT did what he had to and played the press beautifully in his press conference. I like that they paid him before he played a game. The man has pride and nothing is gained by making it obvious that you hold all the cards and are the boss. Steichen also deserves not to have to deal with this shit continuing and has made clear that JT fits any offense. Good day to be a Colt fan.

I will show my age. I want to see the stretch play make a come back.

[IndyNorm]

To be fair, Pitt has never enabled an argument that he’s the premier player at his position.

My expectations for Taylor at this point will be perfection. I’m glad he’s taken care of.

True. Although Pitt is by far our best player at a much more valued position, and he's handled his contract situation like a true professional instead of like a whiny, douchebag, bitch like JT did.

[Oldcolt]

I will show my age. I want to see the stretch play make a come back.

I always hated that fucking play

[JAFF]

I always hated that fucking play

Its option football. The long hand off freezes the linebackers and at least one safety. If its Edge, he will get 3 yards falling down. Pull the ball, its 1 on 1 coverage. Marvin, Reggie, Edge in the flat, Dallas going down the seam. Manning was the perfect QB for that offense.

Think of Richardson the athlete, adding his running skill to that play. The right guy running that system makes the D wrong on their decisions

[Oldcolt]

I know what the play was. Manning was in love with it and it everyone wrote a piece on it. In reality it was a long off tackle boring play I’m happy to see retired. If it was so unstoppable it would still be a staple. It was so slow developing. I love Steichens approach with AR.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Thought this was interesting - Edge had a bit of an assist here.

He helped mediate between the Colts and Taylor to get the ball rolling again.


https://twitter.com/NateAtkins_/status/1710747176308015406

On a call with reporters, Jim Irsay said that Edgerrin James was a mediator in repairing the Colts' relationship with Jonathan Taylor.

[Chaka]

Crazy that the saga ended so abruptly. Overall probably a good thing, but agree w/ Chromeburn and a couple of others that this could set a bad precedent. MPJ is probably pretty pissed off right now.

Not sure it’s that bad of a precedent. Taylor got no increase in this year’s salary, and the average salary for the following three years (where he was unsigned) is $14 million, with only a little more than 60% ($26.5M) guaranteed. The franchise number (fully guaranteed) for next year would probably have been in the $11M-$12M range). The devil’s in the details, as always, and those aren’t all available yet. Not sure Taylor wouldn’t have done better by waiting until the end of the season to negotiate an extension though.

EDIT: it looks like the projected franchise number for RBs next year will actually be over $13M, per Overthecap
http://https://overthecap.com/franchise-transition-and-rfa-tenders

[YDFL Commish]

I know what the play was. Manning was in love with it and it everyone wrote a piece on it. In reality it was a long off tackle boring play I’m happy to see retired. If it was so unstoppable it would still be a staple. It was so slow developing. I love Steichens approach with AR.

I loved the play. But in today's NFL most QB's can't run it, because they don't play under center. In fact I'm not sure that Peyton ran it much after 2007. If you remember...after coming back from his knee injury in 2008, the Colts tried to run it with Peyton doing a pitch out. It didn't work.

[JAFF]

'Things got off the rails': Colts Jim Irsay on path to Jonathan Taylor's contract extension







The Colts' contract talks with Jonathan Taylor took so many twists and turns that it became hard at times for those involved to see a light at the end of the tunnel.

But that light has arrived. The Colts signed Taylor to a three-year, $42 million extension with $26.5 million guaranteed Saturday, one day before he'll make his season debut against the Titans at Lucas Oil Stadium.

"It has been a journey," Colts owner Jim Irsay said in a call with media. "There was a lot of work to be done to mend the spirit and the heart and look that everyone has their heart in the right place, and it doesn’t always come out that way when people are protecting themselves for their money and their family long-term.


"... Things got off the rails."

The $14 million annual value ranks third among running backs, behind only Christian McCaffrey of the 49ers and Alvin Kamara of the Saints. It's a major shift from Irsay saying that he didn't plan on making Taylor any extension offer this season.

Indianapolis Colts All-Pro running back has signed a three-year extension with the franchise.
MORE:Jonathan Taylor signs 3-year contract extension with Indianapolis Colts

"This is a great deal, a very huge deal for a running back," Irsay said. "It's sooner than I think should have happened, but I was OK with it because of his age and the four-year average."


But the Colts needed a resolution to a relationship with an All-Pro player that had turned rocky. Taylor requested a trade, and Irsay and Taylor's agent, Malki Kawa, traded tweets about the state of the position. Kawa referred to the relationship as unfixable at one point. And Taylor went to the Physically Unable to Perform List to miss the first four games of the season.

General manager Chris Ballard stayed in close communication with Kawa, and Irsay credited former Colts legendary running back Edgerrin James for being a mediator between the team and its disgruntled back.


There was always a compromise available if the two sides could agree on a multi-year contract. Taylor had expected one based on the Colts' precedent with players such as Quenton Nelson, Braden Smith, Shaquille Leonard and Kenny Moore II. It took the Colts time to offer one, but that day has arrived.

"The whole process has been difficult because a player coming off an injury who missed a lot of time – it’s not his fault – for a team that has struggled greatly with that much contract time left from his first contract," Irsay said. "Again, the body of work is great — 2021, just that year alone – but I felt it wasn’t time to address it or have a standoff and battles."


It's not clear what made things shift so dramatically. When Taylor spoke Thursday before his first practice in nearly a year, he did not commit to wanting to be with the Colts long-term. Two days later, he signed the extension.

Meet IndyStar's Colts Insiders: Talking Colts football with reporters Nate and Joel

But it allows both sides to move on to build a team that is currently 2-2 and in a four-way tie in the AFC South. They have an innovative first-year coach in Shane Steichen, the most athletic quarterback prospect in history in rookie Anthony Richardson, an improved offensive line and a complementary running back in Zack Moss.

That setup will allow the Colts to ease Taylor back in after so much time off. Irsay said that it will be three to four weeks before Taylor is built up to his old form. And now that a multi-year extension is in writing, both sides have some incentive to manage the workload and maintain efficiency beyond this season.


They all hope that they can return Taylor to the rushing champion he was in 2021, when he ran for 1,811 yards and 18 touchdowns.

"His unique speed, ability and everything else, it gives us a unique opportunity offensively to do thing that shifts it in another gear," Irsay said.

"Now you’ve got to be worried about grand slams and 500-foot home runs. This team has changed."

[IndyNorm]

Not sure it’s that bad of a precedent. Taylor got no increase in this year’s salary, and the average salary for the following three years (where he was unsigned) is $14 million, with only a little more than 60% ($26.5M) guaranteed. The franchise number (fully guaranteed) for next year would probably have been in the $11M-$12M range). The devil’s in the details, as always, and those aren’t all available yet. Not sure Taylor wouldn’t have done better by waiting until the end of the season to negotiate an extension though.

EDIT: it looks like the projected franchise number for RBs next year will actually be over $13M, per Overthecap
http://https://overthecap.com/franchise-transition-and-rfa-tenders

I wasn't referring to the numbers. They seem to be fine. As you point out similar to the franchise tag annually. I'm guessing too that the guaranteed dollars are front loaded so if JT does drop off we can get out of the final year w/out a big cap hit.

The precedent I was talking about was extending him without him proving anything post injury on the field after JT held out, potentially faked an injury, and acting like a giant douche for several months.

[Oldcolt]

IndyNorm, the one thing you forgot to mention on this precedent is the guy doing it is your best player on offense (soon to be consensus second best), so that precedent has already been set decades ago. From Babe Ruth to Emmit Smith great players jobs have always been to push the envelope in any way possible to increase wages for everyone in their sport. If AR keeps getting better you can bet your ass he would do the exact same kind of thing if the Colts wanted to play hard ball (they of course would not do that with a QB-life ain't fair just like we all know).

[Chaka]

I wasn't referring to the numbers. They seem to be fine. As you point out similar to the franchise tag annually. I'm guessing too that the guaranteed dollars are front loaded so if JT does drop off we can get out of the final year w/out a big cap hit.

The precedent I was talking about was extending him without him proving anything post injury on the field after JT held out, potentially faked an injury, and acting like a giant douche for several months.

I get it, but it's always a matter of each side's appetite for risk in comparison to the benefit, right? I mean, if the deal's good enough for the Colts, I'm sure they'd extend any core player even though there may be lots of risk in doing so.

I agree this deal can and will be used by those with an agenda to say the Colts caved, but maybe that's partly the point. The dollar figure lets Taylor save some face after he painted himself into a bit of a corner, but is it really all that great for him? He didn't get anything better for himself this year, and he's locked up his age 25-27 prime seasons at a price which is likely to be undermarket if he plays well. If he plays poorly, then I suppose Taylor's bought himself some financial security that he wouldn't have had otherwise and it will be a bad deal for the Colts, but that's the trade-off. Even then, however, its a relatively short 3-year contract and the Colts appear to have built in some downside protection since only a bit more than 60% of the contract is guaranteed. We still don't have some of the fine details on the contract structure, but even assuming the $26.5M is fully guaranteed in all respects and irrevocable, it doesn't sound like a giant win for Taylor by any stretch.

So, at the end of the day, maybe the Colts caved a little in changing their position on an early extension, but in exchange they locked him up for three years at what they probably believe is a pretty reasonable price. This is no record setting contract ala Quenton Nelson or Shaq Leonard.

[albany ed]

If he has a great year, they could still trade him, but they'll get a lot better deal than they would have a few weeks ago.

[Chaka]

I have no doubt that if Taylor had come back without an extension, played well and demonstrated that a Richardson/Taylor combo was as lethal as everyone hoped, then he would have gotten a far better deal from the Colts. The Colts have shown no hesitancy in the past to provide cutting-edge contracts to their homegrown stars. Taylor's injury issues seem to have brought the contract value way down.

The fact that Taylor was willing to commit himself to a discounted contract before getting an opportunity to demonstrate his skills in a game setting does concern me somewhat, I'll admit.

[Oldcolt]

Why would that be a concern? Whatever opportunity there was to showcase his talents (something I am sure he believes he has already done) has to be counterbalanced by the opportunity to get injured. How much more would he have made by playing without a contract extension? The difference would be maybe 2-3 million more a year, maybe. If you are looking for some generational wealth there isn't much difference in lifestyle between 26 million (his guarantee) and say 30 million whereas there is a shitload of difference between 26 million and zilch (if he is injured). Most of us would same the same decision.

[Chaka]

Why would that be a concern? Whatever opportunity there was to showcase his talents (something I am sure he believes he has already done) has to be counterbalanced by the opportunity to get injured. How much more would he have made by playing without a contract extension? The difference would be maybe 2-3 million more a year, maybe. If you are looking for some generational wealth there isn't much difference in lifestyle between 26 million (his guarantee) and say 30 million whereas there is a shitload of difference between 26 million and zilch (if he is injured). Most of us would same the same decision.

Yes, what you are saying is true in any contract negotiation (there is always a risk of injury), but usually doesn't result in the player taking a discounted contract. Taylor appears to have been willing to accept one here, which is the source of my concern.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Noticed that Spotrac has updated their website with details from the new contract. Note: Spotrac may continue to edit these details over the next week or so as they investigate with other sources.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/indianapolis-colts/jonathan-taylor-47636/


3 year, $42,000,000 contract, $26,500,000 guaranteed

Includes a $10,248,000 signing bonus which they prorate over 4 years.

$20,304,000 guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + remaining 2023 salary + 2024 salary + 2024 per game active bonus)

$7,152,445 of 2025 salary fully guarantees March 17th, 2024 (this amount is injury guaranteed only at contract signing)

2024 Per Game Active Bonus: $30,000 ($510,000, guaranteed)

2025-26 Per Game Active Bonus: $60,000 ($1.02M)


The third year of the contract is not guaranteed and takes no cap space other than the prorated portion of the signing bonus.

[Brylok]

Ugh. Can't stand him. I can't cheer for a player I can't stand.

[JAFF]

Ugh. Can't stand him. I can't cheer for a player I can't stand.

These guys sacrifice their present and future health to entertain us and excite us. It’s not personal, its business. Its not your money he’s getting, Its Irsays. I did everything I could to maximize my benefits and final salary so I could retire with a larger Soc. Security and state retirement $$ and nobody complained. (I suspect there were some who would have held the exit door for me.) If you make it into the NFL and dont max your pay while getting the shit beat out of you, you are stupid.

[Brylok]

These guys sacrifice their present and future health to entertain us and excite us. It’s not personal, its business. Its not your money he’s getting, Its Irsays. I did everything I could to maximize my benefits and final salary so I could retire with a larger Soc. Security and state retirement $$ and nobody complained. (I suspect there were some who would have held the exit door for me.) If you make it into the NFL and dont max your pay while getting the shit beat out of you, you are stupid.

I don't care, I'm just a fan. From my perspective, Mali Kawa runs the Colts with his Leonard and dickhead Taylor contracts. Congrats on your social security accounts.

[Racehorse]

Ugh. Can't stand him. I can't cheer for a player I can't stand.
You don't even know him. No use having such ill feelings for a guy whose job is to entertain in the fashion of a gladiator.

[Brylok]

You don't even know him. No use having such ill feelings for a guy whose job is to entertain in the fashion of a gladiator.

Of course I don't know him; he's an NFL player and I'm just a random fan. I still think he's a dickhead and I can't stand him. Mali Kawa needs to find us a WR for Minchew...our QB1. Get on it, Boss Kawa. Sam! Get your shoes on.

[Brylok]

Don't pay Pittman big money either.

[Chaka]

These guys sacrifice their present and future health to entertain us and excite us. It’s not personal, its business. Its not your money he’s getting, Its Irsays. I did everything I could to maximize my benefits and final salary so I could retire with a larger Soc. Security and state retirement $$ and nobody complained. (I suspect there were some who would have held the exit door for me.) If you make it into the NFL and dont max your pay while getting the shit beat out of you, you are stupid.

So you are saying that the fans' view should not be considered, even though they are the ones ultimately paying for these giant salaries? Didn't many Colts fans invest their time and money based in part upon the expectation that Taylor would be playing this season? But, no, they should embrace Taylor when he threatens to hold out and deprive the fans of what they paid for, because its "just business" and he should be applauded for screwing over the fans in order to further amplify his personal wealth, right?

[Butter]

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/indianapolis-colts/jonathan-taylor-47636/
I do not really like it if he is not back to all pro form.
Next year cap ht of 10 is ok, but the next 2 are 15.5, can cut him in 26 for only 2.5.

[JAFF]

So you are saying that the fans' view should not be considered, even though they are the ones ultimately paying for these giant salaries? Didn't many Colts fans invest their time and money based in part upon the expectation that Taylor would be playing this season? But, no, they should embrace Taylor when he threatens to hold out and deprive the fans of what they paid for, because its "just business" and he should be applauded for screwing over the fans in order to further amplify his personal wealth, right?

If owners listened to fans on day to day functions they would lose badly and often.

Dont buy team unis and hats. Stop buying tickets. Money talks.

If you think a team is listening to fans on the draft, you are going to be disappointed.

[albany ed]

So you are saying that the fans' view should not be considered, even though they are the ones ultimately paying for these giant salaries? Didn't many Colts fans invest their time and money based in part upon the expectation that Taylor would be playing this season? But, no, they should embrace Taylor when he threatens to hold out and deprive the fans of what they paid for, because its "just business" and he should be applauded for screwing over the fans in order to further amplify his personal wealth, right?

Fans can decide on an individual basis. If you wanna bitch and moan about Taylor, by all means do so. As a fan you have that right. Not all fans feel the way you do. I for one don't. I've enjoyed watching Taylor, there were games where he was the only bright spot. If he can continue to perform like that, I for one will be entertained. If you're not or you're more concerned with the salary cap and how it's spent, by all means, bitch on. Just don't lump all fans into that opinion.

[Chromeburn]

Don't pay Pittman big money either.

So let him go then? Move Pierce to the X role? Draft another receiver? Gotta replace the production we let out the door.

[Chaka]

If owners listened to fans on day to day functions they would lose badly and often.

Dont buy team unis and hats. Stop buying tickets. Money talks.

If you think a team is listening to fans on the draft, you are going to be disappointed.

What are you talking about? I merely took issue with your sentiment that fans should not be offended by Taylor's demands, and that we should all have no concern because its "just business" and not our money. My point is that the fans are entitled to be concerned, to be offended, and to have an opinion. And it is our money.

The fans are the reason Irsay has his wealth, and the players are able to support themselves playing a game. To suggest that the fans have no cause to offended when a player threatens to hold out, breach his contracts or demands a trade is absurd.

[Chaka]

Fans can decide on an individual basis. If you wanna bitch and moan about Taylor, by all means do so. As a fan you have that right. Not all fans feel the way you do. I for one don't. I've enjoyed watching Taylor, there were games where he was the only bright spot. If he can continue to perform like that, I for one will be entertained. If you're not or you're more concerned with the salary cap and how it's spent, by all means, bitch on. Just don't lump all fans into that opinion.

Haha, whatever. I merely took issue with the concept that it is somehow wrong for fans to get worked up when a player holds out, seeks at trade, etc. You are certainly welcome to feel however you want to.

[JAFF]

What are you talking about? I merely took issue with your sentiment that fans should not be offended by Taylor's demands, and that we should all have no concern because its "just business" and not our money. My point is that the fans are entitled to be concerned, to be offended, and to have an opinion. And it is our money.

The fans are the reason Irsay has his wealth, and the players are able to support themselves playing a game. To suggest that the fans have no cause to offended when a player threatens to hold out, breach his contracts or demands a trade is absurd.

Never said that. As to his wealth, that comes from all NFL fans, the TV revenue.

I dont get offended when players hold out, its there only recourse. They get the shit knocked out themselves and suffer painful injuries as a norm and the average career in the NFL is 3.3 years.

From the Wash. Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/feature/wp/2013/05/16/do-no-harm-retired-nfl-players-endure-a-lifetime-of-hurt/

I’m on the players side to get what they can while they can. I believe Jim Irsay is too, to the extent he can under a contract. I dont agree with Taylor tactics this year. Irsay isnt an idiot, he wasnt giving an extension until he passed the physical.

No one is twisting your arm to watch the Colts. If you dont like what you see vote with your feet.

[albany ed]

Haha, whatever. I merely took issue with the concept that it is somehow wrong for fans to get worked up when a player holds out, seeks at trade, etc. You are certainly welcome to feel however you want to.

Thanks, I'll do just that, and you can do the same.

[Racehorse]

What are you talking about? I merely took issue with your sentiment that fans should not be offended by Taylor's demands, and that we should all have no concern because its "just business" and not our money. My point is that the fans are entitled to be concerned, to be offended, and to have an opinion. And it is our money.

The fans are the reason Irsay has his wealth, and the players are able to support themselves playing a game. To suggest that the fans have no cause to offended when a player threatens to hold out, breach his contracts or demands a trade is absurd.

I get perturbed when that drama starts, but I am a lot faster to get over it when it all gets resolved.

[Colts And Orioles]

What are you talking about ??? I merely took issue with your sentiment that fans should not be offended by Taylor's demands, and that we should all have no concern because its "just business" and not our money. My point is that the fans are entitled to be concerned, to be offended, and to have an opinion. And it is our money.

The fans are the reason Irsay has his wealth, and the players are able to support themselves playing a game. To suggest that the fans have no cause to offended when a player threatens to hold out, breach his contracts or demands a trade is absurd.





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I agree with this, although I also agree with Racehorse in that I am quick to get over it once it's resolved.

Also, I myself am not particularly offended in the first place, but I completely understand the fans who are.

I am 58 years-old, so I have seen the player-owner relationship go from one extreme to the other, particularly in baseball. The late Jim Bouton once summed it all up in a nutshell when he said ...... ) "They way that I see it is that the owners screwed the players for 100 years. The players have been screwing the owners for the last 20 years. So the players have about another 80 years to go of continuing to screw the owners in order to level the scales of justice."

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