Luck off PUP

[smitty46953]

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The #Colts have officially taken QB Andrew Luck off the PUP list, as they planned to do.

:cool:

[Dam8610]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account
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The #Colts have officially taken QB Andrew Luck off the PUP list, as they planned to do.

:cool:

Well that's heartening.

[albany ed]

That should mean he doesn't miss the first 6 games. Maybe only the first 4.

[njcoltfan]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account
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The #Colts have officially taken QB Andrew Luck off the PUP list, as they planned to do.

:cool:

Well, that makes me feel a lot better !!

[smitty46953]

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@AdamSchefter

Colts QB Andrew Luck passed his physical at 3:15 this afternoon, allowing him to come off PUP list. Still unlikely to play Week 1.

:cool:

[Indiana V2]

Halle-freaking-luah!

[ChoppedWood]

Finally some good news!!!!! No put the mfer in pads and get this show started!

[Butter]

Well that is good news, at least we know he is not dead.

[omahacolt]

still something seems off with all of this. could be nothing. could be the colts think they are cool with being secretive for no reason. but until i hear he is practicing, i dont expect to see him until at least october

[rcubed]

still something seems off with all of this. could be nothing. could be the colts think they are cool with being secretive for no reason. but until i hear he is practicing, i dont expect to see him until at least october
Agree. I think they just took him off the PUP to keep all their options open but we are not seeing him anytime soon

[indycolts2]

still something seems off with all of this. could be nothing. could be the colts think they are cool with being secretive for no reason. but until i hear he is practicing, i dont expect to see him until at least october
The whole thing seems kind of ridiculous and IMO it started when Irsay said they decided not to have the surgery done when he missed all those games due to the lacerated kidney issue because they thought time would heal it. Since the surgery the secrecy that involved some of the most cryptic bullshit from all the main characters has contributed to the Colts beginning to look like an organization that could rival others for being dysfunctional.

[Butter]

still something seems off with all of this. could be nothing. could be the colts think they are cool with being secretive for no reason. but until i hear he is practicing, i dont expect to see him until at least october

Yep.

[ChoppedWood]

The whole thing seems kind of ridiculous and IMO it started when Irsay said they decided not to have the surgery done when he missed all those games due to the lacerated kidney issue because they thought time would heal it. Since the surgery the secrecy that involved some of the most cryptic bullshit from all the main characters has contributed to the Colts beginning to look like an organization that could rival others for being dysfunctional.

We do look childish. It's discouraging to hear the local guys all sort of provide cover for all this clandestine BS from the team (though DD and Kravitz both seemed to sink their teeth into the very latest from Irsay with the interview last week where he explained that Luck will only come back when he is ready to come back--- no shit Jim!).

Nationally they take a fair amount of heat for how this whole Luck thing has been handled and rightfully so. I read one article flat out calling Irsay a liar in regards to Luck's health simply to prevent a collapse of the ticket base- and sadly I am not so sure I don't ascribe to that notion. What's the downside for Irsay if he keeps the spirits up by falsely claiming he's gonna play somewhere between weeks 1 and 6 but he doesn't? So we lose the 53rd man from the roster- so what. However if the buying public knows Luck is not going to be on the field, look at that home schedule during that time- those games become near pre-season games from the public's perspective. Sure some will turn out for Bruce's return the 2nd week, but Cleveland, the 9ers, the Jags? TV coverage would not be able to hide the stupid level of empty seats for those games. So I can buy into this premise that Jim knows Luck is not playing, potentially much deeper into the season if at all, but just can't bring himself to tell the world that for support reasons.

To me this is on par with both the disasters that were the Edge and Bob injury situations. The team managed to mangle both of those situations. As great as Edge was and as instrumental as Bob was to bringing home a title- you can replace those positions quickly and the fall off is not that significant, a once a generation QB- not so much.

[YDFL Commish]

One thing people fail to realize where Irsay is concerned, is that he's seen how all of this plays out before, when the franchise QB, has a severe shoulder injury and is allowed to be rushed back into action before he was healthy.

Bert Jones.

Bert Jones shoulder injury in 1978 basically ruined his career and ruined the hopes of another lackluster franchise (Baltimore Colts) for years to come.

You think Irsay wants to see that scenario played out again, under his watch? That's why he's pushing Luck to take it slow and not come back until it's a virtual certainty that not only will Luck be better, but he will not suffer any setbacks or risk of re-injury.

I also do believe that Irsay IS keeping Pags at arms length away from Luck, so that Pags won't be trying to convince Luck to come back too soon.

Do I believe that Pags has not seen Luck throw? Of course not. In fact I believe that he's seen enough that he thinks Luck could come back now.

But Irsay is pulling the strings, and you can see the frustration from Pags because of it. He knows that he can't coach this team to save his job without Luck.

[njcoltfan]

One thing people fail to realize where Irsay is concerned, is that he's seen how all of this plays out before, when the franchise QB, has a severe shoulder injury and is allowed to be rushed back into action before he was healthy.

Bert Jones.

Bert Jones shoulder injury in 1978 basically ruined his career and ruined the hopes of another lackluster franchise (Baltimore Colts) for years to come.

You think Irsay wants to see that scenario played out again, under his watch? That's why he's pushing Luck to take it slow and not come back until it's a virtual certainty that not only will Luck be better, but he will not suffer any setbacks or risk of re-injury.

I also do believe that Irsay IS keeping Pags at arms length away from Luck, so that Pags won't be trying to convince Luck to come back too soon.

Do I believe that Pags has not seen Luck throw? Of course not. In fact I believe that he's seen enough that he thinks Luck could come back now.

But Irsay is pulling the strings, and you can see the frustration from Pags because of it. He knows that he can't coach this team to save his job without Luck.
I'm hoping that even Luck coming back won't save Pagano's job !!

[Hoopsdoc]

I'm hoping that even Luck coming back won't save Pagano's job !!

I don't think Ballard is that dumb.

I still think Ballard agreed to roll with Chuck this year only after he realized how bad the roster was and how long it would take to fix it.

[njcoltfan]

I don't think Ballard is that dumb.

I still think Ballard agreed to roll with Chuck this year only after he realized how bad the roster was and how long it would take to fix it.

You are probably right, but installing a new system this year knowing that the team would suck,instead of waiting until next year, IMHO would have been the way to go.

[VeveJones007]

You are probably right, but installing a new system this year knowing that the team would suck,instead of waiting until next year, IMHO would have been the way to go.

How do you install a new offense when the QB can't participate? That's why the move wasn't made.

[albany ed]

I'm hoping that even Luck coming back won't save Pagano's job !!

The only way Pagano saves his job is by going to the playoffs, and that ain't happennin'.

[omahacolt]

How do you install a new offense when the QB can't participate? That's why the move wasn't made.

He can learn. Just can't put it on the field in practice. I don't buy this argument

[njcoltfan]

He can learn. Just can't put it on the field in practice. I don't buy this argument
My thought too, he's not going to play for at least two weeks, so he makes a few mistakes, this is a lost season anyway you cut it. I heard a rumor that he went to Stanford, so he just might be smart enough to pick it up sooner than you think!

[Racehorse]

One thing people fail to realize where Irsay is concerned, is that he's seen how all of this plays out before, when the franchise QB, has a severe shoulder injury and is allowed to be rushed back into action before he was healthy.

Bert Jones.

Bert Jones shoulder injury in 1978 basically ruined his career and ruined the hopes of another lackluster franchise (Baltimore Colts) for years to come.

You think Irsay wants to see that scenario played out again, under his watch? That's why he's pushing Luck to take it slow and not come back until it's a virtual certainty that not only will Luck be better, but he will not suffer any setbacks or risk of re-injury.

I also do believe that Irsay IS keeping Pags at arms length away from Luck, so that Pags won't be trying to convince Luck to come back too soon.

Do I believe that Pags has not seen Luck throw? Of course not. In fact I believe that he's seen enough that he thinks Luck could come back now.

But Irsay is pulling the strings, and you can see the frustration from Pags because of it. He knows that he can't coach this team to save his job without Luck.
I would keep Luck away from Pags, too. The guy has no idea on how to handle professional athletes with or without injuries.

[Hoopsdoc]

He's officially ruled out for week one. Just got the alert.

That will be a LOSS.

I see yet another 0-2 start.

[Dewey 5]

Good. I don't care if doesn't play a single game. I do not want clappy to fuck this kid up any more than he is now.

[njcoltfan]

He's officially ruled out for week one. Just got the alert.

That will be a LOSS.

I see yet another 0-2 start.

Any word on if Luck practiced today?

[Indiana V2]

ESPN radio ripping on the Colts, bashing how Irsay and Pagano have handle Luck's injury.

[ChoppedWood]

ESPN radio ripping on the Colts, bashing how Irsay and Pagano have handle Luck's injury.

Fully deserved, 100%! I love this team but I am rapidly losing my cool with the way this whole organization operates. Jim needs to step aside ASAP and let his daughter get this thing turned around- and that starts with Choppy being sent packing. Good man, probably another in a long list of good coordinators who make bad HC's, miserable head coach incapable of executing the broad role bestowed upon him.

[omahacolt]

ESPN radio ripping on the Colts, bashing how Irsay and Pagano have handle Luck's injury.

And what did they do wrong

[Indiana V2]

And what did they do wrong

Well, for one by not creating an O-line that can protect their franchise QB, and so Luck has been often injured, but then with all the secrecy with what's actually going on with Luck and his recovery and timetable to return.

Also, they were blasting Pagano and his comment that he hasn't seen Luck throw a football yet, and how he is staying in his lane. Mentioned he's the freaking head coach, everything is in his lane.

[natagu23]

Next man up.

Something something something....tree will eventually fall.

[DrSpaceman]

While I don't like Luck being out, I really don't have a problem with how Luck's status is being handled.

Just pisses off the media because they are keeping things as tight lipped as possible and they have nothing to report.

There is no need to rush him back to play for a few early season games. Especially when Kelly is out now too, so his risk of reinjury is even higher.

ESPN doesn't know crap about a team like the Colts. If its not the Pats, Cowboys, Giants, Steelers, they really don't pay much attention.

[indycolts2]

And what did they do wrong

Pretty much everything including the initial approach that time would heal his shoulder. Perfect time to do it was middle of 2015 season when he had to miss the last half of season. Then again maybe Luck didn't want it done, what the hell do I know. I find it odd that the guy with the repaired shoulder never days anything of substance regarding what is going on. Apparently Pagano can teach something with an assist from Irssy, how to speak in cryptic bullshit and say nothing.

[IndyNorm]

He's officially ruled out for week one. Just got the alert.

That will be a LOSS.

I see yet another 0-2 start.

We probably would have started 0-2 anyway. When has Clappy ever had his team prepared to play at the start of the season?

[Hoopsdoc]

We probably would have started 0-2 anyway. When has Clappy ever had his team prepared to play at the start of the season?

I'm guessing an 0-2 start, winning against the browns, then losing to the Seahawks and Titans. 1-4 is my prediction thru the first five.

Maybe they'll poopcan Chucky then.

[Hoopsdoc]

We probably would have started 0-2 anyway. When has Clappy ever had his team prepared to play at the start of the season?

Rams game reminds me a lot of the Lions game last year. A mediocre opponent who we should beat but Clappy finds a way to screw it up.

Damn, I already hate this season, six days before it starts.

[apballin]

They'll beat the Rams

[IndyNorm]

Rams game reminds me a lot of the Lions game last year. A mediocre opponent who we should beat but Clappy finds a way to screw it up.

Damn, I already hate this season, six days before it starts.

It reminds me more of the '15 opener at Buff. Mediocre team with a good pass rush. Clappy has us completely unprepared to play as always and we get embarrassed :cool:

Funny how I used to always be super excited at the start of the season and now I pretty much couldn't care less.

[IndyNorm]

They'll beat the Rams

You do realize Clappy's record in season openers is 1-4 with the only win coming at home against a really bad Raiders team who only won 4 games that year. And after blowing a 14 point lead we were lucky to win that one.

[DrSpaceman]

The Colts could actually win the opener and some games in the first month even if Luck is out.

not saying they WILL do that, but even without Luck, the team SHOULD be able to go 2-3 or even 3-2 vs. the rams, Cardinals, browns, seahawks and 49ers.

But yes, Clappy Mcwoodchipper does nothing to improve those odds.

[apballin]

You do realize Clappy's record in season openers is 1-4 with the only win coming at home against a really bad Raiders team who only won 4 games that year. And after blowing a 14 point lead we were lucky to win that one.

The Rams are a really bad team, I'm not convinced Goff is a better QB than Tolzien. Colts run the ball, get a couple turnovers and get out of there with the W

[omahacolt]

Well, for one by not creating an O-line that can protect their franchise QB, and so Luck has been often injured, but then with all the secrecy with what's actually going on with Luck and his recovery and timetable to return.

Also, they were blasting Pagano and his comment that he hasn't seen Luck throw a football yet, and how he is staying in his lane. Mentioned he's the freaking head coach, everything is in his lane.

1). Romo got hurt behind the best oline in the league. This is football. Can't injury proof a player.

2). Pagano is a retard

[omahacolt]

Pretty much everything including the initial approach that time would heal his shoulder. Perfect time to do it was middle of 2015 season when he had to miss the last half of season. Then again maybe Luck didn't want it done, what the hell do I know. I find it odd that the guy with the repaired shoulder never days anything of substance regarding what is going on. Apparently Pagano can teach something with an assist from Irssy, how to speak in cryptic bullshit and say nothing.

Exactly. You don't know shit.

[indycolts2]

Exactly. You don't know shit.

I'm okay with that........it means I know as much as you do!:D

[omahacolt]

I'm okay with that........it means I know as much as you do!:D

Exactly

Doctors advised luck on his injury. Not grigson. Not irsay. Not pagano. Doctors fuck up. Not saying they did here but it wasn't the colts.

[natagu23]

The Rams are a really bad team, I'm not convinced Goff is a better QB than Tolzien. Colts run the ball, get a couple turnovers and get out of there with the W

We're not sure about Goff... I'll give you that, but the Rams have had a good defense for awhile now.

They're offense was a joke under Jeff Fisher, so its gotta be addition by subtraction on that side of the ball. If they are able to put 24 points on the board, they'll be hard to beat with that defense imo.

Aaron Donald is holding out, so who knows with that situation.

[YDFL Commish]

We're not sure about Goff... I'll give you that, but the Rams have had a good defense for awhile now.

They're offense was a joke under Jeff Fisher, so its gotta be addition by subtraction on that side of the ball. If they are able to put 24 points on the board, they'll be hard to beat with that defense imo.

Aaron Donald is holding out, so who knows with that situation.

Take a look at their roster. It's not what it used to be on the defensive side of the ball.

If we can't beat the Rams, it will be because we got out-coached once again, not because of any talent disparity.

[smitty46953]

I'm okay with that........it means I know as much as you do!:D

Omaha, I think he means you literally don't know shit, but I could be wrong .. :cool:

[VeveJones007]

Take a look at their roster. It's not what it used to be on the defensive side of the ball.

If we can't beat the Rams, it will be because we got out-coached once again, not because of any talent disparity.

I disagree. I think the Rams win due to talent and coaching disparity this week. The Rams will drop 30+ on the Colts D this week.

[njcoltfan]

The Rams are a really bad team, I'm not convinced Goff is a better QB than Tolzien. Colts run the ball, get a couple turnovers and get out of there with the W
The Colts haven't been able to run the ball for the past 5 years, what makes you think that their going to start this week ???

[omahacolt]

Omaha, I think he means you literally don't know shit, but I could be wrong .. :cool:

I know. I just don't care

[apballin]

I disagree. I think the Rams win due to talent and coaching disparity this week. The Rams will drop 30+ on the Colts D this week.

Cmon sean mcvay is not a better coach than Pagano, I see a similar gameplan vs the Rams that the Colts used vs the 49ers a couple years ago when they went out there and ran the ball down they're throat all game long

[njcoltfan]

Cmon sean mcvay is not a better coach than Pagano, I see a similar gameplan vs the Rams that the Colts used vs the 49ers a couple years ago when they went out there and ran the ball down they're throat all game long

When did the Colt's get a running game that can run down any teams throat?

[apballin]

When did the Colt's get a running game that can run down any teams throat?

they had one that day, Bradshaw and Richardson, punched them motherfuckers in the mouth

[Coltsalr]

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports Andrew Luck (shoulder) is likely to miss "several more weeks."
The good news is Luck is nearing the end of a strength-building program for his surgically repaired shoulder, and can "finally see the light at the end of the tunnel," per La Canfora. Unfortunately, Luck hasn't even resumed throwing yet and the Colts don't even have a timetable for Luck to resume practicing, although it's expected "sooner rather than later." Either way, fantasy owners who drafted Luck can't expect to have him for perhaps upwards of a month, if not more. All Colts skill-position players around him will be severely adversely affected in weekly box scores.

[njcoltfan]

they had one that day, Bradshaw and Richardson, punched them motherfuckers in the mouth

That was years ago not today.

[omahacolt]

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports Andrew Luck (shoulder) is likely to miss "several more weeks."
The good news is Luck is nearing the end of a strength-building program for his surgically repaired shoulder, and can "finally see the light at the end of the tunnel," per La Canfora. Unfortunately, Luck hasn't even resumed throwing yet and the Colts don't even have a timetable for Luck to resume practicing, although it's expected "sooner rather than later." Either way, fantasy owners who drafted Luck can't expect to have him for perhaps upwards of a month, if not more. All Colts skill-position players around him will be severely adversely affected in weekly box scores.

So probably November. Fantastic

[Coltsalr]

So probably November. Fantastic

Setting ourselves up for Arden Key, the LSU pass rusher that's looked good this year.

[njcoltfan]

So probably November. Fantastic

If at all !

[Coltsalr]

https://twitter.com/nfl/status/906891283221958658

[VeveJones007]

Article also said he'd be practicing sooner rather than later. Sounds like he's almost ready to ramp up the throwing.

[VeveJones007]

So probably November. Fantastic

Remember that La Confora's source is probably Pagano, so it's likely a little more pessimistic to give Pagano cover for early season losses.

[Hoopsdoc]

Remember that La Confora's source is probably Pagano, so it's likely a little more pessimistic to give Pagano cover for early season losses.

Yep, Clappy already casting around for potential scapegoats.

God, I hate that worthless POS.

[YDFL Commish]

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports Andrew Luck (shoulder) is likely to miss "several more weeks."
The good news is Luck is nearing the end of a strength-building program for his surgically repaired shoulder, and can "finally see the light at the end of the tunnel," per La Canfora. Unfortunately, Luck hasn't even resumed throwing yet and the Colts don't even have a timetable for Luck to resume practicing, although it's expected "sooner rather than later." Either way, fantasy owners who drafted Luck can't expect to have him for perhaps upwards of a month, if not more. All Colts skill-position players around him will be severely adversely affected in weekly box scores.

Wait a minute...I thought we were told that Luck had begun throwing? Were we lied to yet again?

[Racehorse]

Wait a minute...I thought we were told that Luck had begun throwing? Were we lied to yet again?

So, someone else said Pags is the source, so maybe it means Pags has not seen him throw yet, but he actually has thrown already.

[omahacolt]

Wait a minute...I thought we were told that Luck had begun throwing? Were we lied to yet again?

Wasn't that jmv or whoever that reported that? I don't recall the colts saying anything

[Dewey 5]

Honestly, clappy better not get a pass again because of injuries. He will try & cry it's not his fault but he has to go.

[ChoppedWood]

Wait a minute...I thought we were told that Luck had begun throwing? Were we lied to yet again?

No, no, no, these guys are straight up and honest- giving us nothing but the straight dope! Ballard rules and Jimmy is the greatest of all time!