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Lov2fish
03-16-2023, 06:23 PM
Does this assure us of drafting a QB and he is the bridge, or trading down and waiting until next year for a QB and rolling with Gardner?

ChaosTheory
03-16-2023, 06:35 PM
Does this assure us of drafting a QB and he is the bridge, or trading down and waiting until next year for a QB and rolling with Gardner?

Looks like backup money to me.

JAFF
03-16-2023, 06:44 PM
Does this assure us of drafting a QB and he is the bridge, or trading down and waiting until next year for a QB and rolling with Gardner?

He is a pro who can do what is best for the team

Lov2fish
03-16-2023, 06:44 PM
Looks like backup money to me.

I don't think his salary would have been much different regardless of how he is used. If we can trade back and gain an additional 2nd. this year or next I would do it and take BPA and go with Gardner for a season. If they went that way I would hope they do a couple of the vets a solid and trade them to a contender. D-Buck especially. That dude needs a shot at a title.

Brylok
03-16-2023, 06:58 PM
That was quick. One year, $3.5M is cheap for a QB who knows the system.

Hoopsdoc
03-16-2023, 07:39 PM
I like this move. There’s no downside. And he’s a capable fill in should it come to that.

Oldcolt
03-16-2023, 08:02 PM
It is a nice move. Ballard certainly knows how to fill out a roster. Great at getting quality backups. If only we had starters. It will be interesting to see if there is actually a plan that he can execute. Anybody here have a clue what we are up to?

apballin
03-16-2023, 08:19 PM
It is a nice move. Ballard certainly knows how to fill out a roster. Great at getting quality backups. If only we had starters. It will be interesting to see if there is actually a plan that he can execute. Anybody here have a clue what we are up to?

Not a fuckin clue… perhaps lowering expectations after the “chips all in” season

JAFF
03-16-2023, 08:32 PM
I like this move. There’s no downside. And he’s a capable fill in should it come to that.

Exactly. If the rookie Qb isnt ready, Minchew plays. Minchew is an assistant coach. He is a pro and he can help get the rookie ready.

There isnt a Manning in this draft.

Colts And Orioles
03-16-2023, 08:37 PM
Exactly. If the rookie QB isn't ready, Minshew plays. Minshew is an assistant coach. He is a pro, and he can help get the rookie ready.

There isn't a Manning in this draft.





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There's hardly a Peyton Manning every quarter of a Century or so, let alone in a solitary season's draft.

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Puck
03-16-2023, 08:56 PM
Love it

rm1369
03-16-2023, 09:47 PM
I like this move. There’s no downside. And he’s a capable fill in should it come to that.

I love it if they draft a QB this year. I hate it if they don’t. Minshew is just decent enough to stop the tank and put the team in a similar (or worse) situation next year. If they don’t draft a QB I’d rather roll with Ehlinger and secure a top two pick.

rcubed
03-17-2023, 12:49 AM
Great move. Does anyone know if he is still rocking a stache?

njcoltfan
03-17-2023, 07:06 AM
Great move. Does anyone know if he is still rocking a stache?

Great move. Does anyone know who's protecting him ?? I thought for sure Ballard was going to sign a couple of OLmen !!

JAFF
03-17-2023, 07:55 AM
Colts get veteran QB Gardner Minshew on good deal; can mentor young quarterback

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2023/03/16/colts-reportedly-sign-veteran-qb-gardner-minshew/70018336007/



S — The Colts are widely expected to draft their quarterback of the future in April.

In the meantime, Indianapolis has found a veteran backup who can handle the starting role if a young quarterback isn’t ready to go right away.

The Colts have agreed to terms on a one-year, $3.5 million, fully-guaranteed deal that includes another $2 million possible in incentives with former Jaguars and Eagles quarterback Gardner Minshew, a league source confirmed to IndyStar on Thursday night.

Indianapolis released former starting quarterback Matt Ryan on Wednesday, picking up more than $17 million in cap savings, and although veteran Nick Foles remains on the roster, it’s likely Foles also will not be back after just one season with the Colts, leaving Sam Ehlinger as the only returning quarterback in Indianapolis.


Minshew fills a key role for new head coach Shane Steichen.

Doyel:Stay calm, but signing Minshew MEANS ANTHONY RICHARDSON IS NEXT

For starters, the Colts need an experienced quarterback who can handle the starting role if a potential rookie isn’t ready right away, and Minshew has started 24 games over four seasons in the NFL, including lengthy stints with the Jaguars in 2019 and 2020.


More importantly, Minshew already knows Steichen’s playbook, the terminology and how the new Colts head coach puts a game plan together, making him the perfect quarterback to help tutor a young player in the offense, and to tutor the offense as a whole.

When a new head coach installs his system, it often helps to have veterans who know the ropes to help the rest of the team pick up the terminology and system quickly.


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Unable to hold onto the starting role in Jacksonville despite throwing 37 touchdowns and 11 interceptions over 20 starts, Minshew has spent the last two seasons as the backup quarterback behind Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia, making four starts. Minshew completed 62.5% of his passes in those starts for 1,102 yards, an average of 8.1 yards per attempt, seven touchdowns and four interceptions, going 1-3 in his four starts.

But just as importantly, Minshew's presence doesn't change the franchise's likely course of action in resetting the quarterback position with a rookie to develop.



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Colts owner Jim Irsay already declared the team's intention when Steichen was introduced, citing the new coach's track record of developing Hurts and Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert as one of the deciding factors in the hire.

“You just felt that Shane had a lot of that offensive magic, which is hard to find in this league,” Irsay said. “Offense, in my mind, can be a little more complex. It takes a lot more time to develop, knowing we’re going to have to find a young quarterback to develop, that’s a key factor.”

The task has gotten a little bit more difficult since Irsay said those words.

Indianapolis holds the No. 4 pick in April's draft, a selection that puts the Colts firmly in range to take one of the four quarterbacks expected to be taken in the first round: Alabama's Bryce Young, Ohio State's C.J. Stroud, Florida's Anthony Richardson and Kentucky's Will Levis.


Two of those quarterbacks will almost certainly be off the board by the time the Colts pick.

Carolina, led now by former Colts head coach Frank Reich, pulled off a blockbuster trade with Chicago last week, leaping over the Colts and everybody else into the No. 1 pick. Barring a shocking pick by Houston, the quarterback-desperate Panthers and Texans will take passers with the No. 1 and No. 2 picks.

The possibility remains that Carolina and Houston leave the Colts with a rookie quarterback who needs time to develop. Richardson, in particular, is a raw prospect with outstanding physical tools who might need seasoning, and the same could be said for Levis, who played in pro-style offenses at Kentucky but struggled last year.

Indianapolis general manager Chris Ballard didn't do anything to suggest that the Colts won't be taking a quarterback in April's draft.

But he did suggest that it's possible the Colts go through a transitional year, playing a veteran quarterback while the rookie develops behind him.


"If it works out that way?" Ballard said. "Yeah, it's definitely on the table."

The extra $2 million in incentives baked into Minshew's contract would come into play then.

And even though Minshew's $3.5 million is guaranteed, the Colts managed to find a capable veteran option for a little less money than similar backups around the league.

Former Indianapolis quarterback Jacoby Brissett signed a one-year, $8 million deal in Washington that included $7.5 million guaranteed. Carolina signed veteran Andy Dalton to a two-year, $10 million deal that includes $8 million guaranteed and could rise to $17 million with incentives. Former Washington backup Taylor Heinicke got a two-year, $14 million deal from Atlanta that includes $6.32 million in guarantees and could go higher with incentives.

Minshew's deal is far less than that, signaling at least a temporary end to the Colts paying significant prices for veteran quarterback play. Indianapolis gave Brissett a two-year, $30 million deal when he stepped in for a retiring Andrew Luck in 2019, paid Philip Rivers $25 million to take the Colts to the playoffs in 2020, handed Carson Wentz $21 million in 2021 and paid Ryan $24 million last season, plus another $12 million guaranteed that made an impact on this year's cap. Indianapolis carries $18 million in dead money after releasing Ryan, and a move to release Foles would put another $1.5 million in dead money on the cap.


Assuming the Colts are drafting a quarterback in April, Indianapolis won't be paying anywhere close to those prices in 2023, an important consideration for a roster that has significant needs at wide receiver, offensive line and cornerback moving forward.

All of those moves are still likely forthcoming.

But the Colts have the veteran quarterback they needed.

Who they're drafting to learn from Minshew, and potentially play in front of him, is the big question.

rcubed
03-17-2023, 10:49 AM
Great move. Does anyone know who's protecting him ?? I thought for sure Ballard was going to sign a couple of OLmen !!


Its early, it will get done.


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IndyNorm
03-17-2023, 11:03 AM
I love it if they draft a QB this year. I hate it if they don’t. Minshew is just decent enough to stop the tank and put the team in a similar (or worse) situation next year. If they don’t draft a QB I’d rather roll with Ehlinger and secure a top two pick.

Agreed. If we get ~6 wins then we're not picking in the top 5 again, so the only way we'd possibly get in position to draft Williams or Maye is by trading down this year for a bunch of draft capital in '24 to allow us to move up.

IndyNorm
03-17-2023, 11:05 AM
Its early, it will get done.


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Hopefully you're right, b/c there's a lot to get done on the OL. Bare minimum we need a new starting RG, new starting OC, and a solid backup OT. It'd be good to add additional quality depth as well.

omahacolt
03-18-2023, 02:49 PM
nothing worse than when the colts have a quirky white dude on the roster


makes fans insufferable

JAFF
03-18-2023, 06:46 PM
nothing worse than when the colts have a quirky white dude on the roster


makes fans insufferable

There has been someone more quirky than Edge?

YDFL Commish
03-18-2023, 07:02 PM
There has been someone more quirky than Edge?

Vandy?

JAFF
03-18-2023, 08:15 PM
Vandy?

No, he was a dumb ass. Mike Curtis would be my next choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xWfk6ld87o

Dewey 5
03-18-2023, 09:46 PM
No, he was a dumb ass. Mike Curtis would be my next choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xWfk6ld87o

Or Ted Hendricks.

JAFF
03-18-2023, 10:25 PM
Or Ted Hendricks.

Ted wasnt flaky until he arrived in oakland

omahacolt
03-19-2023, 03:31 PM
There has been someone more quirky than Edge?

racist colts fans don't give a shit about quirky black dudes



but a quirky white dude or a just a plain white wr and they lose their fucking minds.

apballin
03-19-2023, 04:12 PM
racist colts fans don't give a shit about quirky black dudes



but a quirky white dude or a just a plain white wr and they lose their fucking minds.

I honestly wonder if this will factor into the Richardson/ Levis decision

Hoopsdoc
03-19-2023, 04:49 PM
racist colts fans don't give a shit about quirky black dudes



but a quirky white dude or a just a plain white wr and they lose their fucking minds.

I mean, Leonard is a quirky black dude and everyone loves him.

Well, everyone but you.

Maybe YOU’RE the racist.

JAFF
03-19-2023, 04:54 PM
racist colts fans don't give a shit about quirky black dudes

but a quirky white dude or a just a plain white wr and they lose their fucking minds.

Oh please, the Colts fans loved Edge. Didn't want to fly. Took a taxi to camp from Indy. Decided he loved flying overseas because the plane had beds.

Indy fans loved Reggie Miller. Every time he had a great game his sister had a better day. Stories how he would find to guys to play him in 2 on 2 for money, and his partner was a girl he convinced to play 2 on 2. It was Cheryl

Just stop. It is insulting.

Last year I took my grandsons to the Indianapolis children’s museum. It just so happened. They were having a special event with Dwight Freeney. He had all these little kids who didn’t even come up to his waist learning the spin move. all the fans whatever their background was, we’re having a great time watching it. Nobody cared about his ethnicity. They loved how he interacted with the kids.

Edge was fun, and if you love football, you love the players, what ever thy look like

IndyNorm
03-20-2023, 07:29 PM
Oh please, the Colts fans loved Edge. Didn't want to fly. Took a taxi to camp from Indy. Decided he loved flying overseas because the plane had beds.

Indy fans loved Reggie Miller. Every time he had a great game his sister had a better day. Stories how he would find to guys to play him in 2 on 2 for money, and his partner was a girl he convinced to play 2 on 2. It was Cheryl

Just stop. It is insulting.

Last year I took my grandsons to the Indianapolis children’s museum. It just so happened. They were having a special event with Dwight Freeney. He had all these little kids who didn’t even come up to his waist learning the spin move. all the fans whatever their background was, we’re having a great time watching it. Nobody cared about his ethnicity. They loved how he interacted with the kids.

Edge was fun, and if you love football, you love the players, what ever thy look like

On top of all of that I haven't seen anyone lose their mind over Pierce.

omahacolt
03-22-2023, 07:44 PM
Oh please, the Colts fans loved Edge. Didn't want to fly. Took a taxi to camp from Indy. Decided he loved flying overseas because the plane had beds.

Indy fans loved Reggie Miller. Every time he had a great game his sister had a better day. Stories how he would find to guys to play him in 2 on 2 for money, and his partner was a girl he convinced to play 2 on 2. It was Cheryl

Just stop. It is insulting.

Last year I took my grandsons to the Indianapolis children’s museum. It just so happened. They were having a special event with Dwight Freeney. He had all these little kids who didn’t even come up to his waist learning the spin move. all the fans whatever their background was, we’re having a great time watching it. Nobody cared about his ethnicity. They loved how he interacted with the kids.

Edge was fun, and if you love football, you love the players, what ever thy look like
yeah no shit.

all fans love hall of fame players. regardless of skin color. but lets not pretend indiana isn't a very racist state. lets not pretend the love for idiots like mcafee, griff fucking whalen, blair white and a whole list of others doesn't prove my point.

matt giordano was a fan fucking favorite for fucks sake

omahacolt
03-22-2023, 07:44 PM
On top of all of that I haven't seen anyone lose their mind over Pierce.

that is surprising. but he also didn't really do a damn thing so

omahacolt
03-22-2023, 07:45 PM
I honestly wonder if this will factor into the Richardson/ Levis decision

i don't think ballard or irsay gives a shit.

omahacolt
03-22-2023, 07:47 PM
blankenship


fuck lets not forget blankenship. "little white guy that wears glasses and plays with legos, oh my god i love him"

ChaosTheory
03-22-2023, 08:35 PM
So if we take Richardson that should at least offset Minshew's quirky whiteness.

And if he reaches his potential, he could be the best black QB the Colts have had since Peyton Manning.

apballin
03-22-2023, 09:37 PM
yeah no shit.

all fans love hall of fame players. regardless of skin color. but lets not pretend indiana isn't a very racist state. lets not pretend the love for idiots like mcafee, griff fucking whalen, blair white and a whole list of others doesn't prove my point.

matt giordano was a fan fucking favorite for fucks sake

I’ll add Austin Collie to this list

apballin
03-22-2023, 09:43 PM
So if we take Richardson that should at least offset Minshew's quirky whiteness.

And if he reaches his potential, he could be the best black QB the Colts have had since Peyton Manning.

Funny shit…. But in all seriousness the deck is stacked against black QBs between the politics and the referee biased it’s definitely harder for them to be great.

However I do think Richardson has similarities to Edge and can change the narrative

The dude wanted to be a fire fighter I can see him teaming up with IFD for promos

He really seems like a game changer to me

Colts And Orioles
03-23-2023, 12:19 AM
yeah no shit.

all fans love hall of fame players. regardless of skin color. but lets not pretend indiana isn't a very racist state. lets not pretend the love for idiots like mcafee, griff fucking whalen, blair white and a whole list of others doesn't prove my point.

matt giordano was a fan fucking favorite for fucks sake.





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Eric Dickerson had both good things and bad things top say about the fans in Indianapolis.

Dickerson said that the racism when he first got there was overt, and extremely hurtful .......


Eric Dickerson Says Colts Fans Racially Targeted Him During Time With Team

(By Shawn Grant)

https://thegrio.com/2019/08/30/eric-dickerson-says-colts-fans-racially-targeted-him-during-time-with-team/



Here is Dickerson speaking himself, in an interview regarding the state of Indiana ......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46P6YmH93CE


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That said, Dickerson eventually took the high road and said good things about his time with the Colts when he was inducted into the Colts' Ring-of-Honor in 2013.


"I had some great years there," said Eric Dickerson, who with Marshall Faulk, will be inducted into the Colts' Ring of Honor on Sunday when the team plays the Houston Texans at Lucas Oil Stadium. "When I got there, it was the first time that they played on Monday Night Football in Indianapolis. That was a highlight for a lot of us, not just me, but for the city and the team and everybody."


Faulk, Dickerson Relish Colts Ring Honor

(By Phil Richardson)

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2013/12/12/faulk-dickerson-relish-colts-ring-honor/4000021/

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Colts And Orioles
03-23-2023, 12:39 AM
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Even in the interview with Byron Scott when they were talking about the banner with the Black baby and the watermelon that was hung in the Hoosier Dome during a game, Dickerson said that "The Colts have some really good fans."

I think that Dickerson has a heart, and I think that he knows that there are some good, non-racist Colts fans out there ...... I think that he feels for us, and I think that he knows that the scumbags give the rest of us (Colts fans) a bad name.

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