IndyStar update 2nd round

[JAFF]

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2023/01/25/colts-coaching-search-will-reportedly-interview-7-in-second-round/69840345007/

INDIANAPOLIS — The second round of the Colts’ exhaustive search for a new head coach is taking shape.

Indianapolis plans to interview seven candidates, according to ESPN, beginning with interim coach Jeff Saturday, who was originally scheduled to interview on Wednesday, although it’s reportedly possible that the snow falling on the city could delay Saturday’s interview.

From there, the second round of interviews will likely linger into next week, and at least four of the candidates have been reported — Saturday; Denver defensive coordinator Ejiro Evero, who is scheduled to interview on Thursday, according to the NFL Network; Rams defensive coordinator Raheem Morris, according to ESPN; and Dallas defensive coordinator Dan Quinn, who is also a key figure in the Cardinals and Broncos searches, according to the NFL Network.


By paring the list down to seven candidates, the Colts have cut their initial list in half, even though they haven’t been able to complete the initial interviews in that cycle yet.

Colts general manager Chris Ballard has made good on the promise he made in his season-ending press conference.

“We’ve got a very detailed process put together on the traits and attributes we’re looking for in the head coach,” Ballard said. “Don’t care which side of the ball, and then to be patient and take your time and make sure we have a thorough interview with everybody.”

Coaching candidates whose teams are still in the playoffs can make the final piece of Ballard’s promise difficult.

San Francisco defensive coordinator DeMeco Ryans pulled out of his Saturday interview with the Colts to focus on preparation for the 49ers’ divisional round playoff game against the Cowboys, a game San Francisco won 19-12.

Indianapolis reportedly still wants to talk to Ryans, but according to a timeline published by NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy, assistant coaches on teams that make the Super Bowl can have a second interview, either in-person or virtual, between Jan. 30 and Feb. 5, but only if they’d already had an interview with teams.

Ryans pulled out of his first interview with the Colts. Under that rule, he wouldn’t be able to interview with Indianapolis until San Francisco’s season is over, one way or another.

And he’s not the only Colts candidate coaching in the conference championship games. Indianapolis interviewed Philadelphia offensive coordinator Shane Steichen, Cincinnati offensive coordinator Brian Callahan and Kansas City offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy.

None are eligible to interview until that window between Jan. 30 and Feb. 5. If any are among the seven the Colts want to interview again, they can’t be interviewed until next week.

Beyond being in-person, the second round of interviews will be different in another key way.

Colts owner Jim Irsay is expected to be part of the second round.

Ballard, as he promised at the end of the season, has led the first round of interviews, flanked by a group that includes Colts vice chair Carlie Irsay-Gordon, director of team development Brian Decker and staff from both the public relations and human resources departments, according to Sports Illustrated.

Irsay makes the decision.

“Ultimately, Mr. Irsay makes the final call,” Ballard said. “We give him: ‘Here’s our thoughts,’ and Mr. Irsay is a good listener. Ultimately, he’ll make the final call, but he will lean heavily on our work.”

The widespread perception, both locally and nationally, remains that Saturday is the front-runner for Irsay, who repeatedly touted the former Colts center’s candidacy for the permanent job during the season, calling Saturday an “outstanding candidate” on ESPN even after the Colts gave up the biggest comeback in NFL history to the Vikings.

Saturday finished 1-7 in his eight-game stint.

But his presence in the second round of interviews is an indication that he still has a real shot at getting the full-time job, even though Ballard tried to push back on any suggestion that the job was Saturday’s to lose, repeatedly vowing to run the search the right away.

“I don’t care if it takes until mid-February to hire the head coach,” Ballard said. “It’s about getting it right.”

The Colts are closer to an answer.

But it still might be some time before that answer finally comes.

[JAFF]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/25/the-longer-jeff-saturday-is-in-it-the-greater-the-chance-he-wins-it/

Heres some up dated news of several candidates. On their second interview.

This was easier,

[Dewey 5]

Dan Quinn is out. He is staying with the Cowboys

[CletusPyle]

I'm starting to think it's going to be Saturday....also the Rooney Rule is useless if Black candidates refuse to interview for your opening!:eek:

[Dewey 5]

Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN
Raheem Morris is having a lengthy in-person interview with the #Colts today. Was told Morris was still with the team as of early evening. Morris is one of several candidates as part of Indy's second round of talks.

[Racehorse]

Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN
Raheem Morris is having a lengthy in-person interview with the #Colts today. Was told Morris was still with the team as of early evening. Morris is one of several candidates as part of Indy's second round of talks.

I think he could do well here, but what do I know?

[rm1369]

I think he could do well here, but what do I know?

I think Morris would be a good choice, he’s definitely toward the top of my list. At this point though I’ll take anyone not named Jeff Saturday.

[Dewey 5]

I think he could do well here, but what do I know?

I do as well because I'm certain he could put together a solid staff. From everything I've read he is very respected in coaching circles. That is important.

[Chromeburn]

Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN
Raheem Morris is having a lengthy in-person interview with the #Colts today. Was told Morris was still with the team as of early evening. Morris is one of several candidates as part of Indy's second round of talks.

I like it. I think he is my top choice.

Then go get a crusty old OC who has no interest in becoming a head coach so he doesn’t leave in two years for a head coaching job.

[ChaosTheory]

I think he could do well here, but what do I know?

I think Morris would be a good choice, he’s definitely toward the top of my list. At this point though I’ll take anyone not named Jeff Saturday.

I do as well because I'm certain he could put together a solid staff. From everything I've read he is very respected in coaching circles. That is important.

I like it. I think he is my top choice.

Then go get a crusty old OC who has no interest in becoming a head coach so he doesn’t leave in two years for a head coaching job.


What is it you guys like about him? Not arguing, just curious, because the numbers aren't good.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/MorrRa0.htm

As HC in TB after Gruden, he went 3-13, 10-6, and 4-12. As interim in ATL after Dan Quinn he was 4-7.

As a DC, he's never had a team rank in the top half of the league. 17th, 17th, 19th, 27th, 29th, and 30th.

In fact, even as a position coach it looks like nearly every team he's been a part of has finished ranking in the mid-20's.

[CletusPyle]

https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2023/1/28/23575500/rams-news-raheem-morris-colts-head-coach-interview

Sounds like the 2nd interview went well....but check out this comment from the article! :D

The one thing possibly standing in the way of Morris becoming the next head coach of the Colts is owner Jim Irsay. According to Jordan Schultz, general manager Chris Ballard and the front office prefer a candidate like Morris while Irsay prefers interim coach Jeff Saturday.

It also sounds like if the Colts hire Morris it would cost them 2 3rd round picks for compensation...that concerns me a little!

[Dewey 5]

https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2023/1/28/23575500/rams-news-raheem-morris-colts-head-coach-interview

Sounds like the 2nd interview went well....but check out this comment from the article! :D

The one thing possibly standing in the way of Morris becoming the next head coach of the Colts is owner Jim Irsay. According to Jordan Schultz, general manager Chris Ballard and the front office prefer a candidate like Morris while Irsay prefers interim coach Jeff Saturday.

It also sounds like if the Colts hire Morris it would cost them 2 3rd round picks for compensation...that concerns me a little!

Negative. If the Colts hire Morris they RECEIVE comp picks.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/14/nfl-compensatory-picks-for-minority-coaches-and-executives-explained/

[Oldcolt]

It is a crapshoot with head coaches (unless, like Saturday they have proven themselves incapable) so if it is close take the third round draft pick. Ballard loves him his picks. God I hope Irsay isn't losing it totally in his old age and forces Saturday on this franchise again.

[CletusPyle]

Negative. If the Colts hire Morris they RECEIVE comp picks.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/14/nfl-compensatory-picks-for-minority-coaches-and-executives-explained/

I was just going by what the article said...maybe it was a misprint or a mistake but this paragraph is from the article:

In the case that Morris is hired by the Colts, McVay would need to find a new a defensive coordinator. Evero would be someone to watch here if he is not retained by the Denver Broncos. The Rams would also receive two third-round compensatory selections if Morris is hired.

So I assume Houston would get the same deal if they hire Ryans....looks to me like they would be getting the better deal!

[Dewey 5]

I was just going by what the article said...maybe it was a misprint or a mistake but this paragraph is from the article:

In the case that Morris is hired by the Colts, McVay would need to find a new a defensive coordinator. Evero would be someone to watch here if he is not retained by the Denver Broncos. The Rams would also receive two third-round compensatory selections if Morris is hired.

So I assume Houston would get the same deal if they hire Ryans....looks to me like they would be getting the better deal!

Pretty sure what that means is that if Morris gets a HC job the NFL will reward the Rams comp picks for developing a minority coach. The Rams wouldn't get picks from the Colts.

[JAFF]

Pretty sure what that means is that if Morris gets a HC job the NFL will reward the Rams comp picks for developing a minority coach. The Rams wouldn't get picks from the Colts.

Arent compensation picks awarded by the NFL at the end of certain rounds when you lose players to FA? You cant take picks from a team for hiring someone to a promotion?

[CletusPyle]

Pretty sure what that means is that if Morris gets a HC job the NFL will reward the Rams comp picks for developing a minority coach. The Rams wouldn't get picks from the Colts.

That makes sense, the paragraph in the article is just badly worded. I obviously don't know much about this process, maybe the writer just assumed everyone reading his article understood the process?

Regardless, I was hoping for a more established coach, someone that could change the direction this franchise seems to be headed down.

[JAFF]

That makes sense, the paragraph in the article is just badly worded. I obviously don't know much about this process, maybe the writer just assumed everyone reading his article understood the process?

Regardless, I was hoping for a more established coach, someone that could change the direction this franchise seems to be headed down.

That person is either working on a sunday morning pregame show or dead.

[Dewey 5]

Arent compensation picks awarded by the NFL at the end of certain rounds when you lose players to FA? You cant take picks from a team for hiring someone to a promotion?

The employer-club of a minority employee who has been hired by another club as its Head Coach or Primary Football Executive (General Manager) shall receive Draft choice compensation in the form of a compensatory Draft pick in the third round in each of the next two Drafts for an employee hired as either a Head Coach or Primary Football Executive, or for the next three Drafts if it has two employees hired for both positions. The reference to the hiring of employees into “both positions” could be by the same club or different clubs. The following will apply to the Draft choice compensation:
a. Any compensatory Draft picks awarded pursuant to this Policy will be at the end of the third round following all compensatory Draft picks awarded to clubs pursuant to Appendix V of the NFL-NFLPA Collective Bargaining Agreement.
b. If multiple clubs are awarded compensatory Draft picks pursuant to this Policy, then the order of those picks at the end of the third round will follow the original selection order for that Draft established prior to any trades or other adjustments.

(ii) The employer-club shall be eligible to receive this Draft choice compensation if:
a. The minority employee hired as a Head Coach or Primary Football Executive has been employed by the employer-club for a minimum of two full seasons; and
b. The minority employee is not the Head Coach or Primary Football Executive of the employer-club and is hired into the same position with the new club. There can be no break in employment between clubs.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/14/nfl-compensatory-picks-for-minority-coaches-and-executives-explained/

[nate505]

Morris really isn't my favorite choice or anything, but I'd rather see him a thousand times over Saturday.

[CletusPyle]

That person is either working on a sunday morning pregame show or dead.

I'll take Saturday over a dead guy!:D

[ChaosTheory]

So the five guys to get second interviews are Jeff Saturday, Ejiro Evero, Raheem Morris, Wink Martindale, and Rich Bisaccia goes in Monday.

Three defensive coordinators, one ST coordinator... and Saturday.

[albany ed]

So the five guys to get second interviews are Jeff Saturday, Ejiro Evero, Raheem Morris, Wink Martindale, and Rich Bisaccia goes in Monday.

Three defensive coordinators, one ST coordinator... and Saturday.

Does this mean Demeco Ryans is no longer a consideration? Not that I have good reasons for it, but I was hoping he would be the Colts next HC.

[JAFF]

Does this mean Demeco Ryans is no longer a consideration? Not that I have good reasons for it, but I was hoping he would be the Colts next HC.

News outlets are linking him to the Texans, but there has been no official announcement

[Hoopsdoc]

https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2023/1/28/23575500/rams-news-raheem-morris-colts-head-coach-interview

Sounds like the 2nd interview went well....but check out this comment from the article! :D

The one thing possibly standing in the way of Morris becoming the next head coach of the Colts is owner Jim Irsay. According to Jordan Schultz, general manager Chris Ballard and the front office prefer a candidate like Morris while Irsay prefers interim coach Jeff Saturday.

It also sounds like if the Colts hire Morris it would cost them 2 3rd round picks for compensation...that concerns me a little!

Holy shit. It’s going to be Saturday, isn’t it.

God damnit.

[YDFL Commish]

I'm predicting that we will name a coach by next Saturday and that coach will either be Raheem Morris or Brian Callahan.

[Brylok]

I'll take Saturday over a dead guy!:D

I'll take the corpse. We'll have the same results, but at least I won't have to listen to all the talk.

[Dewey 5]

With Cincy now out I would expect Brian Callahan in for a second interview.
Shane Steichen is already lined up for his second.

[IndyNorm]

With Cincy now out I would expect Brian Callahan in for a second interview.
Shane Steichen is already lined up for his second.

Glad to hear on Steichen. Out of the names mentioned I like either him or Morris. Also interested to see if Bieniemy is brought in for a 2nd interview.

[Dam8610]

With Cincy now out I would expect Brian Callahan in for a second interview.
Shane Steichen is already lined up for his second.

Based on only knowing their body of work with their current teams, Callahan and Ryans were my top two choices. If they choose Callahan, let's just hope he's a lot better than his old man at being a head coach.

[Dewey 5]

Based on only knowing their body of work with their current teams, Callahan and Ryans were my top two choices. If they choose Callahan, let's just hope he's a lot better than his old man at being a head coach.

Pretty sure Ryans is going to Houston. I would pull the trigger on Steichen this week.

[Racehorse]

Based on only knowing their body of work with their current teams, Callahan and Ryans were my top two choices. If they choose Callahan, let's just hope he's a lot better than his old man at being a head coach.

Is he Harry's son?

[Dam8610]

Is he Harry's son?

Bill Callahan

[Racehorse]

Bill Callahan

Flew right over your head. Not surprised.

[ChaosTheory]

Flew right over your head, Punk. Not surprised.

Missed opportunity.

[JAFF]

Missed opportunity.

Slow morning, but that gets an A +

[albany ed]

Flew right over your head. Not surprised.

I guess you didn't make his day.

[njcoltfan]

I'm predicting that we will name a coach by next Saturday and that coach will either be Raheem Morris or Brian Callahan.

How about Brian Callahan as HC and Peyton Manning as his OC !!!!!!

[YDFL Commish]

How about Brian Callahan as HC and Peyton Manning as his OC !!!!!!

PM will not ever be a coach in the NFL.

[JAFF]

PM will not ever be a coach in the NFL.

He has many more things to do that have less stress and makes more money.

I wish they had Eli and Peyton call the main game on Sunday, they are better than any of the other announcers

[Dewey 5]

Just fyi on Callahan interviewing & possibly Arizona hiring him.
https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1621217731423911937

[Dam8610]

Sad when the Texans look more competent as an organization in their head coaching search and hire.

[Discflinger]

Troll

[njcoltfan]

[QUOTE=Dam8610;259696]Sad when the Texans look more competent as an organization in their head coaching search and hire.[/QUOI

It's not a matter of competence when the person you want, wants you too!!