Foreskins are gonna F%ck us

[Lov2fish]

Say's Wentz is cleared to throw, but Taylor is starting at QB Sunday. So looking more and more likely Wentz's playing days in DC are done, which means he doesn't hit the threshold that turns into a 2nd. rounder for us.

[ChoppedWood]

Say's Wentz is cleared to throw, but Taylor is starting at QB Sunday. So looking more and more likely Wentz's playing days in DC are done, which means he doesn't hit the threshold that turns into a 2nd. rounder for us.

With the bad blood now btwn these two teams, if God himself came down to Snyder and told him he was converting Wentz brain to that of Montana and his arm to that of Rogers, and that he was going to guarantee him 5 straight Lombardi's, Snyder would tell him to shut up and take his seat next to Carson on the sidelines.

[ChaosTheory]

Not too surprising if they keep Heinicke the rest of the season. They've won 3/4 with him, lost the previous 4/5 with Wentz and the game Wentz won vs. CHI, he threw for 99yds.

Take the 3rd, hopefully Ballard turns it into another Okereke or Blackmon.

[Colts And Orioles]

o


Heinicke has played better than Wentz has ...... there is no reason for the Redskins to reinsert Wentz at quarterback, regardless of the trade stipulations that they have with the Colts.

o

[Butter]

Meh Whatever.

[Oldcolt]

We fucked ourselves

[Brylok]

The new GM will have to make due with what he has.

[Hoopsdoc]

So they essentially spent a third round pick for the privelege of discovering that Wentz isn’t as good as a player they already had.

Neat.

[Colts And Orioles]

The new GM will have to make due with what he has.





o


If the Colts manage to play (at least) respectable football for the rest of this season, they may not have a new GM next year.

o

[Colts And Orioles]

We fucked ourselves.





o


Actually, I think that the opposite is true ...... just getting another team to take Wentz off of our hands when he still had a year left on his contract with us was a Houdini act by Ballard.

If Wentz were able to play the required amount of games which would have maximized the value of that trade, it would have simply been icing on the cake ...... but we still got the cake overall (with or without the icing.)

o

[Oldcolt]

o


Actually, I think that the opposite is true ...... just getting another team to take Wentz off of our hands when he still had a year left on his contract with us was a Houdini act by Ballard.

If Wentz were able to play the required amount of games which would have maximized the value of that trade, it would have simply been icing on the cake ...... but we still got the cake overall (with or without the icing.)

o

I agree with this. The place where we got screwed was in trading for the guy in the first place. I was looking at it as a whole. I agree that even if we only gotten a 6th rounder it would have be a win for us at that point.

[Brylok]

o


If the Colts manage to play (at least) respectable football for the rest of this season, they may not have a new GM next year.

o

I don't think there's much of a chance that Ballard will stay. He's been completely undermined and looks like a fool. They'll come to some sort of contract buyout arrangement and he will leave. I doubt he has any problem finding a new job. The Colts however will be... interesting.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

So they essentially spent a third round pick for the privelege of discovering that Wentz isn’t as good as a player they already had.

Neat.


Washington traded more than just a 2023 conditional draft pick.

They also traded a third round pick in the 2022 draft (Colts selected Jelani Woods) as well as swapped 2022 second round picks with the Colts so that Indy could move up a few spots in the draft order.

[Pez]

I hate the fact that we suddenly have these types of connections with Washington.

[CletusPyle]

I don't think there's much of a chance that Ballard will stay. He's been completely undermined and looks like a fool. They'll come to some sort of contract buyout arrangement and he will leave. I doubt he has any problem finding a new job. The Colts however will be... interesting.

Which makes you wonder, if what someone else on this board suggested (sorry I forgot who and I am too lazy to look it up), that Saturday is really auditioning for the GM job and the Colts will have a real coaching search at the end of the season.

[JAFF]

I don't think there's much of a chance that Ballard will stay. He's been completely undermined and looks like a fool. They'll come to some sort of contract buyout arrangement and he will leave. I doubt he has any problem finding a new job. The Colts however will be... interesting.

If Ballard had felt undermined, he would have resigned. Ballard has done a fine job adding talent to the team. They didnt tank when Luck retired, which makes it hard to find a rookie Qb. No one complained when they took Nelson with the 5th pick.

The problem isnt finding talent, its getting it to produce. Thats on the coaching staff. Saturday may be out at the end of the year. This group could go back to their lazy ways. Last week, they played close to their potential.

[Brylok]

Which makes you wonder, if what someone else on this board suggested (sorry I forgot who and I am too lazy to look it up), that Saturday is really auditioning for the GM job and the Colts will have a real coaching search at the end of the season.

There's no telling what Diamond Jim will do. He said his role model is Al Davis. Yikes

[Brylok]

If Ballard had felt undermined, he would have resigned.

Would you resign (and not get paid) if you still had 3-4 years left on your contract? No way. He has pride and an ego though, and he'll get another job quickly if he wants. I agree with everything else you said. I'd like him to stay, but I doubt he will. Gonna be interesting

[Lov2fish]

If Ballard leaves we still have Dodds and Brown. I think either one of them could step in and do a fine job, who knows, maybe better.

[Brylok]

If Ballard leaves we still have Dodds and Brown. I think either one of them could step in and do a fine job, who knows, maybe better.

I'd prefer Dodds but I think some other team will snatch him up and he'll leave, too. All I know about Brown is that he came from the Bears who have largely stunk for 35 years. No opinion on him.

[Hoopsdoc]

I'd prefer Dodds but I think some other team will snatch him up and he'll leave, too. All I know about Brown is that he came from the Bears who have largely stunk for 35 years. No opinion on him.

If Ballard leaves(and I think he will), it will be because Jim is calling the shots now(which he is).

I don’t think either of those guys will want to hang around and be Jim’s lackey.

[ColtBlue]

Say's Wentz is cleared to throw, but Taylor is starting at QB Sunday. So looking more and more likely Wentz's playing days in DC are done, which means he doesn't hit the threshold that turns into a 2nd. rounder for us.

Foreskins didn't fuck us. Ballard did by taking him in the first place.

Wentz sucks, He is too not smart for being a NFL starting QB. I'm trying to be nice about him. lol

He would be awesome if his brain matched his arm strength.. lol JMO

[ColtBlue]

If Ballard leaves(and I think he will), it will be because Jim is calling the shots now(which he is).

I don’t think either of those guys will want to hang around and be Jim’s lackey.

I hope Ballard does resign or get fired. His W-L record is worse than Franks.

Ballard should've been packing and walking the road of shame with Frank. IMO

Ballard doesn't know how to draft or get FA for depth. He only cares about his players he got and not the team as a whole.

He doesn't want to spend money and it isn't even his money he is spending!!

That is probably the reason Irsay may keep him aboard for mediocre team.
Irsay wants to win.. Says all chips are on the table...
Well stop trying to bluff everyone and make the bet!!!!

[JAFF]

I hope Ballard does resign or get fired. His W-L record is worse than Franks.

Ballard should've been packing and walking the road of shame with Frank. IMO

Ballard doesn't know how to draft or get FA for depth. He only cares about his players he got and not the team as a whole.

He doesn't want to spend money and it isn't even his money he is spending!!

That is probably the reason Irsay may keep him aboard for mediocre team.
Irsay wants to win.. Says all chips are on the table...
Well stop trying to bluff everyone and make the bet!!!!

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/indianapolis-colts


Not spending money? Click on the link.

As to building a team, thats nonsense. The O line has dramatically under preformed, which screws up everything. We lost the best punter/kickoff specialist (who drafted him?) before the season started. Huge loss in terms of field position.

Yes there have been changes on the O line. Last years returning starters have sucked. Thats on them, not Ballard.

[ColtBlue]

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/indianapolis-colts


Not spending money? Click on the link.

As to building a team, thats nonsense. The O line has dramatically under preformed, which screws up everything. We lost the best punter/kickoff specialist (who drafted him?) before the season started. Huge loss in terms of field position.

Yes there have been changes on the O line. Last years returning starters have sucked. Thats on them, not Ballard.

Yes I don't deny that. He spends all the money in the wrong positions that wins games in the NFL. Our OL is one of the top paid in NFL. Are we good? Look at the W-L record. D one of the top paid, are we a juggernaut defense? Not at all a middle of the pack.

Keep praying for Ballard to bring us winners that win a SB... I am and will die before it happens

[ColtBlue]

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/indianapolis-colts


Not spending money? Click on the link.

As to building a team, thats nonsense. The O line has dramatically under preformed, which screws up everything. We lost the best punter/kickoff specialist (who drafted him?) before the season started. Huge loss in terms of field position.

Yes there have been changes on the O line. Last years returning starters have sucked. Thats on them, not Ballard.

How is that Yannick money working out? How is that money he gave Hines? How is that money for non factor blocking TE's? Why didn't he keep Glow, Reed and replace the one of the best blocking TEs in the league? Doyle?

[ColtBlue]

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/indianapolis-colts


Not spending money? Click on the link.

As to building a team, thats nonsense. The O line has dramatically under preformed, which screws up everything. We lost the best punter/kickoff specialist (who drafted him?) before the season started. Huge loss in terms of field position.

Yes there have been changes on the O line. Last years returning starters have sucked. Thats on them, not Ballard.

See your a Ballard guru lover. I'm cool with him staying I will never root for another team besides my Colts.

I see were changes need to be made. Ballard talking about winning in the trenches. Yes you do, but I have seen how the game and rules have changed since growing up from the 80's.

DB' cant do shit and defense has to lay off QB's a bit. Fine it is a safety concern they say anyhow.

WR passing favorite league, and safety concussion protocols. I'm good with it until the defense can't do its job. So DBs less contact omg WR has a edge and a QB does too.

Lets just keep spending $20 million in guards and less than $20 mil in RB's but still damn good money for RB2 we are not going keep...

I love you too Ballard.. Keep up the good work!!!

[ColtBlue]

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/indianapolis-colts


Not spending money? Click on the link.

As to building a team, thats nonsense. The O line has dramatically under preformed, which screws up everything. We lost the best punter/kickoff specialist (who drafted him?) before the season started. Huge loss in terms of field position.

Yes there have been changes on the O line. Last years returning starters have sucked. Thats on them, not Ballard.

You claim it's not on Ballard. But you probably think it was on Frank!!

Frank as won more games than Ballard with shit QBs.

[ColtBlue]

You claim it's not on Ballard. But you probably think it was on Frank!!

Frank as won more games than Ballard with shit QBs.

Maybe not more games but W-L record is a hell of a lot better...:)

[Brylok]

If Ballard leaves(and I think he will), it will be because Jim is calling the shots now(which he is).

I don’t think either of those guys will want to hang around and be Jim’s lackey.

Me neither but we'll see.

[JAFF]

You claim it's not on Ballard. But you probably think it was on Frank!!

Frank as won more games than Ballard with shit QBs.

Last year means jack squat in the NFL

[JAFF]

If Ballard leaves(and I think he will), it will be because Jim is calling the shots now(which he is).

I don’t think either of those guys will want to hang around and be Jim’s lackey.

For half of what either of those guys salary, I would be Irsays lackey. I would happily hold his beer while I watched the the circus

[Hoopsdoc]

For half of what either of those guys salary, I would be Irsays lackey. I would happily hold his beer while I watched the the circus

Sure, so would I, but I don’t have the options those guys do. Plus, they want to advance in their profession. Both of them are pretty highly regarded around the league.

Why wouldn’t they want to leave and go somewhere where they’re actually running things instead of an old hippy owner?

[Hoopsdoc]

So if Crappybeerguy starts one more game after Sunday, we get a 3rd rounder because Wentz will no longer be able to reach 70 percent of the snaps.

We have to hope Crappybeerguy plays like shit and/or gets hurt.

(To clarify, I’m not hoping he gets hurt. Just saying it would be beneficial to the Colts.)

[JAFF]

Sure, so would I, but I don’t have the options those guys do. Plus, they want to advance in their profession. Both of them are pretty highly regarded around the league.

Why wouldn’t they want to leave and go somewhere where they’re actually running things instead of an old hippy owner?

Because Irsay has a history of being hands off. He let Polian run the shop until it failed. Post Polian, he pulled the trigger on that one a little late, using hindsight.

Ballard has a good record finding talent. The Online was considered one of the best until that group totally failed. The remaining linemen have played well below their past efforts. You cant blame Ballard for the player preformance. That is on the coaching staff.

Finding a Qb is on both Ballard and Irsay. They should have tanked the season when Luck was put on the IR, But they didnt. They traded for Brisset and went .500. Because they thought Luck still gave them 5-6 years of play.

Jim Irsay will not tank a season. He is not his father. Yeah, he is eccentric, but he knows people. Hiring Saturday as HC, he gets a smart guy who will let the asst coaches do their job, he is going to establish the ATTITUDE. Oh, putting Ryan back at Qb is Irsay not tanking. Saturday didnt come in to tank. He came in to put up a fight. They could have hired any one off the street to tank.

Yeah, Irsay may be half a bubble of plumb, he isnt a quitter, and the Colts arent tanking. Fuck that shit. Go down swinging. I can get behind that kind of crazy

[Hoopsdoc]

Because Irsay has a history of being hands off. He let Polian run the shop until it failed. Post Polian, he pulled the trigger on that one a little late, using hindsight.

Ballard has a good record finding talent. The Online was considered one of the best until that group totally failed. The remaining linemen have played well below their past efforts. You cant blame Ballard for the player preformance. That is on the coaching staff.

Finding a Qb is on both Ballard and Irsay. They should have tanked the season when Luck was put on the IR, But they didnt. They traded for Brisset and went .500. Because they thought Luck still gave them 5-6 years of play.

Jim Irsay will not tank a season. He is not his father. Yeah, he is eccentric, but he knows people. Hiring Saturday as HC, he gets a smart guy who will let the asst coaches do their job, he is going to establish the ATTITUDE. Oh, putting Ryan back at Qb is Irsay not tanking. Saturday didnt come in to tank. He came in to put up a fight. They could have hired any one off the street to tank.

Yeah, Irsay may be half a bubble of plumb, he isnt a quitter, and the Colts arent tanking. Fuck that shit. Go down swinging. I can get behind that kind of crazy

No, they’re not tanking, but every major move made this season traces back to Jim. Benching Ryan, firing Brady, and then firing Reich. That’s all on Jim and all made against the wishes of his coaches.

He’s never before meddled like this and there’s no reason to believe he won’t continue to do so.

Besides, he’s already made it clear he doesn’t trust Ballards judgement because Ballard was against hiring Saturday.

I’m not saying I think Ballard ought to be fired, I just think it’s inevitable now that he’s either fired or he leaves on his own.

[JAFF]

No, they’re not tanking, but every major move made this season traces back to Jim. Benching Ryan, firing Brady, and then firing Reich. That’s all on Jim and all made against the wishes of his coaches.

He’s never before meddled like this and there’s no reason to believe he won’t continue to do so.

Besides, he’s already made it clear he doesn’t trust Ballards judgement because Ballard was against hiring Saturday.

I’m not saying I think Ballard ought to be fired, I just think it’s inevitable now that he’s either fired or he leaves on his own.

Have you ever seen a team unit completely fail as the offensive line? New territory, new response. The offense was offensive this year and that is players and coaches.

[IndyNorm]

Have you ever seen a team unit completely fail as the offensive line? New territory, new response. The offense was offensive this year and that is players and coaches.

Partly, but the disasters of Pryor at LT and Pinter at RG is Ballard and his staff's fault. Although if Reich and/or Strausser supported those moves then they're partly to blame as well.

Also, if Nelson's struggles are due to lingering lower back problems or some other physical problem then signing him to such a huge contract could end up being a bad move as well.

[JAFF]

Partly, but the disasters of Pryor at LT and Pinter at RG is Ballard and his staff's fault. Although if Reich and/or Strausser supported those moves then they're partly to blame as well.

Also, if Nelson's struggles are due to lingering lower back problems or some other physical problem then signing him to such a huge contract could end up being a bad move as well.

Yes. I agree. I did not see many objecting to the extension when it happened. I was for it.

[ChaosTheory]

So if Crappybeerguy starts one more game after Sunday, we get a 3rd rounder because Wentz will no longer be able to reach 70 percent of the snaps.

We have to hope Crappybeerguy plays like shit and/or gets hurt.

(To clarify, I’m not hoping he gets hurt. Just saying it would be beneficial to the Colts.)

It's a long shot because Heinicke would need to be pulled for some reason... but yeah, it's probably two more games before it's official going by my gorilla math.

WAS is averaging about 70.3 snaps per game with Wentz and 70.5 snaps with Heinicke (pretty consistent). So WAS gets 70.4 snaps per game which would be about 1,197 snaps for the season, 838 would be 70%.

So Wentz would need another 416 snaps on top of the 422 he's already had. That's 59.4 snaps per game over the final 7 games... or 69.3 snaps per game over 6 games. Both are below WAS current average.

[YDFL Commish]

My take is, that Reich had no conviction, no backbone to stand up to Irsay and had definitely lost Irsay's confidence.

I've said this before, I doubt that Irsay outright dictated every stupid personnel decision that was made. But he damn sure laid out some options and told Reich and Ballard to choose one.

If I'm wrong I'll admit it when the evidence comes out. But for Irsay to dictate starting lineups, he would have to become his dad. So maybe that is the case, but I sure as hell hope not. Because if it is, the franchise is fucked for at least a decade.

[Hoopsdoc]

My take is, that Reich had no conviction, no backbone to stand up to Irsay and had definitely lost Irsay's confidence.

I've said this before, I doubt that Irsay outright dictated every stupid personnel decision that was made. But he damn sure laid out some options and told Reich and Ballard to choose one.

If I'm wrong I'll admit it when the evidence comes out. But for Irsay to dictate starting lineups, he would have to become his dad. So maybe that is the case, but I sure as hell hope not. Because if it is, the franchise is fucked for at least a decade.

No one, whether players or coaches or Ballard, wanted to bench Ryan for Sam. You won’t find a single one supporting the move. They didn’t outright say so because Irsay signs their checks, but there is no doubt from anyone I’ve seen that Jim was the sole reason behind benching Ryan for Ehlinger.

Keefer, Holder, Bowen, JMV, Wells, Kravitz, they all agree that it was Irsay behind that move. I haven’t seen anyone connected with the team that doesn’t think it was Jim. I don’t think there’s really any doubt about that anymore.

You can beat around the bush all you want but that’s Jim Irsay dictating the starting lineups. That’s just reality.

[CletusPyle]

Is something up with Irsay? Who knows, I didn't like him going after Snyder (not a Snyder fan I just thought it was petty and uncalled for), I don't remember him interfering this much in the past...last year with Wentz, this year with Ryan, hope his daughters are watching out for him!

[omahacolt]

Is something up with Irsay? Who knows, I didn't like him going after Snyder (not a Snyder fan I just thought it was petty and uncalled for), I don't remember him interfering this much in the past...last year with Wentz, this year with Ryan, hope his daughters are watching out for him!

i loved irsay going after snyder. snyder is a cunt. irsay having the balls to walk up to the media and let it rip was awesome. people like snyder need to be held accountable. good for irsay

[CletusPyle]

i loved irsay going after snyder. snyder is a cunt. irsay having the balls to walk up to the media and let it rip was awesome. people like snyder need to be held accountable. good for irsay

I agree he deserved it, just not sure Irsay with his past history was the best choice to call out his moral failures!

[IndyNorm]

Yes. I agree. I did not see many objecting to the extension when it happened. I was for it.

Yeah, most of us were like good for Q. But the Colts FO has access to his medical records, so if it is his back or something else physically that's messing him up then they should have known better.

[IndyNorm]

It's a long shot because Heinicke would need to be pulled for some reason... but yeah, it's probably two more games before it's official going by my gorilla math.

WAS is averaging about 70.3 snaps per game with Wentz and 70.5 snaps with Heinicke (pretty consistent). So WAS gets 70.4 snaps per game which would be about 1,197 snaps for the season, 838 would be 70%.

So Wentz would need another 416 snaps on top of the 422 he's already had. That's 59.4 snaps per game over the final 7 games... or 69.3 snaps per game over 6 games. Both are below WAS current average.

No way they're pulling Heinicke for Wentz, so he would have to get hurt. And is Wentz even the back up at this point?

[JAFF]

I agree he deserved it, just not sure Irsay with his past history was the best choice to call out his moral failures!

Irsay hurt himself with his substance abuse. He never physically or sexually harassed others in his employ. He has daughters who will be the principal owners of the Colts, this horseshit of rich men abusing female employees must STOP.

[JAFF]

I agree he deserved it, just not sure Irsay with his past history was the best choice to call out his moral failures!

He is exactly the guy. He has addressed his failures, admitted his addiction and fought to overcome them. He has daughters and they will be the team owners. Now is the time to say something and stand up to the harassment.

[Oldcolt]

Did I miss something with the benching of Ryan for Sam? Like a separated shoulder. A shoulder that as soon as he was able to throw the ball he was back as our starter? The players didn't like it? Who gives a shit? This isn't the NBA, yet. I know that they said Sam was going to be the qb regardless of Ryan's injury. They also said it was going to be the qb for the rest of the year. The Colts lie to us continuously, I watch what they do, not what they say. Those who know what really happened will never tell us the truth. Irsay made some people uncomfortable and for that I am happy. Somebody needed to shake shit up.

[CletusPyle]

Irsay hurt himself with his substance abuse. He never physically or sexually harassed others in his employ. He has daughters who will be the principal owners of the Colts, this horseshit of rich men abusing female employees must STOP.

I'm not going to argue with you about Jim Irsay's virtue, but there are other things beside his addiction I could bring up, but I would rather not, because I like Jim Irsay and because I am also not perfect and don't consider it my place to air his dirty laundry.

BTW, I am not alone in my feelings that perhaps Jim is not the best spokesman for moral virtue.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

All I know about Brown is that he came from the Bears who have largely stunk for 35 years. No opinion on him.


Actually Morocco Brown's first job in the NFL was as a scouting intern with the Colts when Polian was the GM. Brown started that job after he finished his college football career at NC State. I believe he spent some time as an intern with Washington as well.

Following those entry jobs, he served in the following roles:

Assistant Director of Pro Personnel - Chicago - 2001 - 2007

Director of Pro Personnel - Washington - 2008 - 2013

Vice President of Player Personnel - Cleveland - 2014 - 2015

Director of College Scouting - Indianapolis - 2016 - 2022

Chief Personnel Executive - Indianapolis - 2022 -


Brown was hired for his second stint with the Colts by Ryan Grigson.

Ballard decided to keep him on as they had previously crossed paths when they both worked for the Bears at the same time.

[ColtBlue]

Because Irsay has a history of being hands off. He let Polian run the shop until it failed. Post Polian, he pulled the trigger on that one a little late, using hindsight.

Ballard has a good record finding talent. The Online was considered one of the best until that group totally failed. The remaining linemen have played well below their past efforts. You cant blame Ballard for the player preformance. That is on the coaching staff.

Finding a Qb is on both Ballard and Irsay. They should have tanked the season when Luck was put on the IR, But they didnt. They traded for Brisset and went .500. Because they thought Luck still gave them 5-6 years of play.

Jim Irsay will not tank a season. He is not his father. Yeah, he is eccentric, but he knows people. Hiring Saturday as HC, he gets a smart guy who will let the asst coaches do their job, he is going to establish the ATTITUDE. Oh, putting Ryan back at Qb is Irsay not tanking. Saturday didnt come in to tank. He came in to put up a fight. They could have hired any one off the street to tank.

Yeah, Irsay may be half a bubble of plumb, he isnt a quitter, and the Colts arent tanking. Fuck that shit. Go down swinging. I can get behind that kind of crazy

Agree with you here. He should have stayed more hands off and waited til end of year. Now he has his ass in the media for damages for the team to take.

Irsay please run your team like normal, cause you have a great perception of usually doing...

PS Irsay: stay off the media and twitter not helping anything. When one week you say Coaches and GMs are safe then start firing.

[Hoopsdoc]

Heinecke is officially the starter going forward in Washington. Announced today by Rivera

It’s the worst possible scenario for the Colts. Washington keeps winning without Wentz playing.

Looks like it will be a mid to late 3rd round pick.

[ColtBlue]

Heinecke is officially the starter going forward in Washington. Announced today by Rivera

It’s the worst possible scenario for the Colts. Washington keeps winning without Wentz playing.

Looks like it will be a mid to late 3rd round pick.

Of course they would, why wouldn't they?

Hell Heinicke is 4-1 since loser Wentz as been out...

Washington probably have better record if they started Heinicke over Wentz.

Colts was smart getting rid of him.. Wentz is not a starter!!

[Colts And Orioles]

o


Heinicke has played better than Wentz has ...... there is no reason for the Redskins to reinsert Wentz at quarterback, regardless of the trade stipulations that they have with the Colts.

o
o


Heinicke led the Commanders to another win this afternoon, against the Falcons.

The Commanders are now 5-1 with Heinicke at quarterback ...... they owe us no explanation whatsoever for continuing to play Heinicke over Wentz.

o

[CletusPyle]

o


Heinicke led the Commanders to another win this afternoon, against the Falcons.

The Commanders are now 5-1 with Heinicke at quarterback ...... they owe us no explanation whatsoever for continuing to play Heinicke over Wentz.

o

I wonder if they would have traded us Heinicke for Wentz?

[Brylok]

I don't think there's much of a chance that Ballard will stay. He's been completely undermined and looks like a fool. They'll come to some sort of contract buyout arrangement and he will leave. I doubt he has any problem finding a new job. The Colts however will be... interesting.

Bob Kravitz was talking about this on the Kevin and Query show this morning (11-28-22). He thinks Ballard will leave after coming to a gentleman's agreement.

[Brylok]

Which makes you wonder, if what someone else on this board suggested (sorry I forgot who and I am too lazy to look it up), that Saturday is really auditioning for the GM job and the Colts will have a real coaching search at the end of the season.

Kravitz talked about this, too. He thinks Saturday will be the GM next year. Again, from this morning's show (11-28-22).

[YDFL Commish]

Kravitz talked about this, too. He thinks Saturday will be the GM next year. Again, from this morning's show (11-28-22).

If that happens we will suck for a decade.

[Hoopsdoc]

I think Saturday replacing Ballard is entirely possible. As noted above, Ballard has been completely neutered by Irsay. There’s no way he wants to stay, in my opinion. Neither will Dodds or Brown.

They’ll all leave and Jim will offer Saturday the GM job.

And yes, we’ll be completely f****d until Jim is out of the picture.

[JAFF]

I think Saturday replacing Ballard is entirely possible. As noted above, Ballard has been completely neutered by Irsay. There’s no way he wants to stay, in my opinion. Neither will Dodds or Brown.

They’ll all leave and Jim will offer Saturday the GM job.

And yes, we’ll be completely f****d until Jim is out of the picture.

Not going to happen.

[Hoopsdoc]

Not going to happen.

What’s not happening, Ballard leaving or Saturday being offered the job?

I don’t see any way Ballard stays. Why would he?

Saturday being offered the job is a little more iffy but I could definitely see it happening.

[JAFF]

I dont understand the angst over his . Will the Colts get a draft pick for a player they more than likely were going to cut and eat the contract?

[Chromeburn]

So they essentially spent a third round pick for the privelege of discovering that Wentz isn’t as good as a player they already had.

Neat.

We were going to cut him outright. So at least we got something.

[Brylok]

I listened to the show on Google podcasts a bit later in the morning/lunchtime. It's at the 1:46:18 mark on there. I'm sure it's in a similar spot on other podcasts.

[Colts And Orioles]

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Heinicke led the Commanders to another win this afternoon, against the Falcons.

The Commanders are now 5-1 with Heinicke at quarterback ...... they owe us no explanation whatsoever for continuing to play Heinicke over Wentz.

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And the irony of all of this is the initial presumption ...... a lot of people (maybe even the Commanders themselves) probably figured that the Commanders would have their usual crappy season, and be something like 3-9 or 4-8 right now. And at 3-9 or 4-8 and no hope for a playoff berth, all of the talk would probably be around whether or not a team that has no hope for playoff contention would then sit their starting quarterback (Wentz) for the remainder of the season, considering the stipulation/clause in the trade that they made for him.

Well, the opposite has happened ...... the Commanders are a pretty damned good team this season, as they are one of the hottest teams in the NFL having won 6 out of their last 7 games. They are very much in the hunt for a playoff berth at 7-5, and the last thing on their minds is whether or not Carson Wentz will play enough games to activate the trade stipulation in regard to a draft pick ...... the Commanders are thinking playoffs, and they probably couldn't give a rat's ass about Carson Wentz and the stipulation in his contract regarding his playing time.

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[omahacolt]

Kravitz talked about this, too. He thinks Saturday will be the GM next year. Again, from this morning's show (11-28-22).

oh fuck


this is going to get real shitty isn't it

[JAFF]

oh fuck


this is going to get real shitty isn't it

When is the last time Kravitz was right about anything?

[Hoopsdoc]

oh fuck


this is going to get real shitty isn't it

It’s already shitty. It got shitty when Jim started dictating who plays.

It’s been downhill since then.

[Chaka]

Kravitz talked about this, too. He thinks Saturday will be the GM next year. Again, from this morning's show (11-28-22).

This seems pretty unlikely to me. Saturday's strength is motivating players and his experience as a player. Those traits are better fit for a head coach than a GM.

[Brylok]

oh fuck


this is going to get real shitty isn't it

Well, like know-it-all Jaff said, I don't know how often Kravitz has been right. He's covered the Colts for decades though, so...
I just thought it was weird to hear him saying the same things I said days ago.
There is really shitty potential though, no denying that. Lord help our Colts.

[Brylok]

This seems pretty unlikely to me. Saturday's strength is motivating players and his experience as a player. Those traits are better fit for a head coach than a GM.

Just telling y'all what was said. You can go listen to it if you like.

[JAFF]

It’s already shitty. It got shitty when Jim started dictating who plays.

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You dont know that

[Chaka]

Just telling y'all what was said. You can go listen to it if you like.

I don't doubt he said it, but it doesn't seem like it's a well thought out theory. I guess I can't rule it out completely due to Irsay's recent impulsive behavior, but I don't see the logic in it.

Given the timing of Reich's dismissal and Irsay's rapid discussions with Saturday, I'm assuming that this whole fire Reich/hire Saturday thing was motivated by Irsay watching Vrabel during the KC-Tenn game that night. If so, then I don't see why Irsay would take Saturday out of the HC position to move him to the front office. It just doesn't follow.

[rcubed]

yeah, I dont see saturday as a GM prospect.

[ChaosTheory]

If the meddling ends up driving Ballard away... What a royal black eye.

[smitty46953]

If the meddling ends up driving Ballard away... What a royal black eye.

Be hard to find a quality GM if they believe Irsay is meddling with the decisions. :cool:

[Hoopsdoc]

Be hard to find a quality GM if they believe Irsay is meddling with the decisions. :cool:

Irsay is already meddling with the decisions. Anyone who doesn’t have their head stuck in the sand knows that.

There was literally only one person in the entire organization who felt like Sam deserved to start, or that he gave them a better chance to win and that was Jim. The reaction of the coaches and players, both on and off the record, made that crystal clear. It’s not even debatable anymore.

That was 100 percent Jim Irsays call.

So this arguing over whether Jim is really deciding who plays is pointless. He absolutely is, or at least he did in that situation.

[ColtBlue]

Colts need to hire Riddick as GM and whatever Irsay decides to do with Saturday.

Riddick will go after teams needs no matter what the price is.

We need to focus on draft. Cause Ballard won't. lol

Trade up with bears in the second spot eburlus may give us a deal or may not cause we let Frank go. lmao

who knows

[JAFF]

Irsay is already meddling with the decisions. Anyone who doesn’t have their head stuck in the sand knows that.

There was literally only one person in the entire organization who felt like Sam deserved to start, or that he gave them a better chance to win and that was Jim. The reaction of the coaches and players, both on and off the record, made that crystal clear. It’s not even debatable anymore.

That was 100 percent Jim Irsays call.

So this arguing over whether Jim is really deciding who plays is pointless. He absolutely is, or at least he did in that situation.




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Colts owner @JimIrsay said early this morning that he empowered HC Frank Reich to make the change at QB from veteran Matt Ryan to Sam Ehlinger, a 6th rd pick in 2021, and was "excited" and that he, Reich and he, Reich and GM Chris Ballard were in "lockstep" on the move.

Irsay owns the team, he has been hands off until the wheels come off. Notice Ehlinger is no longer starting. Saturday is the guy who put Ryan back as the starter.

Ballard may get fired, but thats not happening until the day after the end of the season. There wont be time or people available to hire until the off season.

[Hoopsdoc]

Irsay owns the team, he has been hands off until the wheels come off. Notice Ehlinger is no longer starting. Saturday is the guy who put Ryan back as the starter.

Ballard may get fired, but thats not happening until the day after the end of the season. There wont be time or people available to hire until the off season.

Lol. Of course he’s gonna say that. I find it funny that you’re choosing to believe him over your own eyes and literally everyone else involved.

Not a single player supported the move outright and Ryan Kelly let everyone know what he thought of the move publicly.

There is no way Frank Reich and Ballard were so disconnected from their own team that they didn’t know that move would never fly with the players.

Then there are the dozens of people connected with the team who talked to the local media guys anonymously and made it plain where this came from. Not a single one of the people who cover the team think this came from anywhere else but Irsay.

Come on, man. Stop playing dumb.

[JAFF]

Lol. Of course he’s gonna say that. I find it funny that you’re choosing to believe him over your own eyes and literally everyone else involved.

Not a single player supported the move outright and Ryan Kelly let everyone know what he thought of the move publicly.

There is no way Frank Reich and Ballard were so disconnected from their own team that they didn’t know that move would never fly with the players.

Then there are the dozens of people connected with the team who talked to the local media guys anonymously and made it plain where this came from. Not a single one of the people who cover the team think this came from anywhere else but Irsay.

Come on, man. Stop playing dumb.

Ryan kelly is one of the main reasons the offense line cant get it done, he is the last guy who is running his mouth.

[Hoopsdoc]

Ryan kelly is one of the main reasons the offense line cant get it done, he is the last guy who is running his mouth.

I don’t disagree but it doesn’t change my point.

[ChoppedWood]

Lol. Of course he’s gonna say that. I find it funny that you’re choosing to believe him over your own eyes and literally everyone else involved.

Not a single player supported the move outright and Ryan Kelly let everyone know what he thought of the move publicly.

There is no way Frank Reich and Ballard were so disconnected from their own team that they didn’t know that move would never fly with the players.

Then there are the dozens of people connected with the team who talked to the local media guys anonymously and made it plain where this came from. Not a single one of the people who cover the team think this came from anywhere else but Irsay.

Come on, man. Stop playing dumb.

Hoops, not disputing your point here, but in terms of no way they were / are that disconnected- we put Matt fucking Pryor out at LT- never underestimate just how out to lunch they are.

[omahacolt]

Be hard to find a quality GM if they believe Irsay is meddling with the decisions. :cool:

yeah.

very hard. someone will do it but i can't imagine it would be the best person available

[Brylok]

yeah.

very hard. someone will do it but i can't imagine it would be the best person available

Imagine if/when it's Jeff Saturday. Lordy

[Colts And Orioles]

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Heinicke led the Commanders to another win this afternoon, against the Falcons.

The Commanders are now 5-1 with Heinicke at quarterback ...... they owe us no explanation whatsoever for continuing to play Heinicke over Wentz.

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With his team trailing by 7 points and only 3:43 left to play in the 4th quarter l Taylor Heinicke l led the Commanders on a 90-yard TD-drive to tie the game at 20.

The game ended in a tie.

The Commanders are now 5-1-1 in games with Taylor Heinicke at quarterback ...... their lone loss on that 7-game span was a last-second loss to the Minnesota Vikings (10-2) on a field goal.

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