The Undefeated Philadelphia Eagles ...... Jeff Saturday's Super Bowl ???

[Colts And Orioles]

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OK, it's one thing for a team that probably got shot of emotional adrenaline from their new interim head coach to beat another team that is one of the worst in the NFL (the Las Vegas Raiders) ...... and I'm sure that everybody is walking on air right now after that well-played game yesterday, especially in regard to the offensive line having only their 2nd solid game of the season, coupled with the resurgence of Matt Ryan at quarterback.

However ...... it is quite another thing to play like that against a team that is undefeated, and regarded by many as the best in the NFL.


So, the question is ...... can the Colts rise to the occasion and beat the Eagles, or at least play well in defeat and make the Eagles earn a hard-fought victory ??? Most rational people will say "No." A few dreamers with royal blue sun-glasses will say, "Maybe." Either way, one thing is for sure ...... the brief honeymoon phase for Jeff Saturday will end on Sunday, regardless of the outcome of that game. If the Colts get blown out, then the win over the Raiders will be minimized as one bottom-feeder having beaten another bottom-feeder. And if the Colts win and/or lose a close, well-played game, expectations for the rest of this 2022 season will no longer be apathetically low.

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[JAFF]

o


OK, it's one thing for a team that probably got shot of emotional adrenaline from their new interim head coach to beat another team that is one of the worst in the NFL (the Las Vegas Raiders) ...... and I'm sure that everybody is walking on air right now after that well-played game yesterday, especially in regard to the offensive line having only their 2nd solid game of the season, coupled with the resurgence of Matt Ryan at quarterback.

However ...... it is quite another thing to play like that against a team that is undefeated, and regarded by many as the best in the NFL.


So, the question is ...... can the Colts rise to the occasion and beat the Eagles, or at least play well in defeat and make the Eagles earn a hard-fought victory ??? Most rational people will say "No." A few dreamers with royal blue sun-glasses will say, "Maybe." Either way, one thing is for sure ...... the brief honeymoon phase for Jeff Saturday will end on Sunday, regardless of the outcome of that game. If the Colts get blown out, then the win over the Raiders will be minimized as one bottom-feeder having beaten another bottom-feeder. And if the Colts win and/or lose a close, well-played game, expectations for the rest of this 2022 season will no longer be apathetically low.

o

IF the O line comes out and plays to their ability, this team should be able to compete with anyone remaining on the schedule. The D isnt the problem, special teams is ok. The Colts get the run game going, they have a chance.

Jordan Wilkins comes back and played as he had in the past. Gets his nose to the hole, and gets 3-4 yards. The holes were there, all game long. Taylor looked like himself, no contact until he was pass the LOS and got his shoulders squared.

[Lov2fish]

This team is notoriously known for stepping up for teams that should kill them. For whatever reason I worry more about losing to a team like the Raiders than I do a team like the Eagles. Do good teams play down to us for taking us for granted, or do we really fight out of our weight class for what ever reason is puzzling. It has been an anomaly for a few years.

[Colts And Orioles]

This team is notoriously known for stepping up for teams that should kill them. For whatever reason, I worry more about losing to a team like the Raiders than I do a team like the Eagles. l Do good teams play down to us for taking us for granted, or do we really fight out of our weight-class for whatever reason is puzzling ...... it has been an anomaly for a few years.





o


In 2019, a Colts teams led by Jacoby Brissett at quarterback, lost to a bad Raiders team.


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/index.nsf/Games/2019-04-oak-ind


One week later, that same Jacoby Brissett-led Colts team beat the eventual Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs ...... on their homefield in Kansas City.


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/index.nsf/Games/2019-05-ind-kc


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One year earlier in 2018, the Colts, led by their all-world quarterback Andrew Luck, were manhandled by the New York Jets ...... that loss dropped the Colts to 1-5 overall.


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/index.nsf/Games/2018-06-ind-nyj


After that embarrassingly disastrous loss to the lowly Jets, the Colts won 9 out of their next 10 games to finish the season at 10-6 overall. That streak included wins over the AFC South champion Houston Texans (11-5), the NFC East champion Dallas Cowboys (10-6), and 2 wins over the Tennessee Titans (9-7) which wound up being the difference between the Colts and the Titans making the playoffs.


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/results.nsf/Teams/2018-ind


In that 2019 post-season, the Colts went on the road to Houston and again beat the Texans to advance to the divisional playoff round.


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/index.nsf/Games/2018-post-wc-ind-hou

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[MeSayDayo]

This team is notoriously known for stepping up for teams that should kill them. For whatever reason I worry more about losing to a team like the Raiders than I do a team like the Eagles. Do good teams play down to us for taking us for granted, or do we really fight out of our weight class for what ever reason is puzzling. It has been an anomaly for a few years.

Its because our D is designed to give up all of the underneath garbage but defends the second reaction improvisers well. The QB who tries to extend plays with his legs against us struggles. It actually makes our pass rush relevant, since we usually end up with a sack or simply based on the time to throw factor.
If Mahomes had be disciplined enough to just dump 5 yards passes all game he would have carved us. If Hurts does that, we will lose and lose big.

[YDFL Commish]

o


In 2019, a Colts teams led by Jacoby Brissett at quarterback, lost to a bad Raiders team.


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/index.nsf/Games/2019-04-oak-ind


One week later, that same Jacoby Brissett-led Colts team beat the eventual Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs ...... on their homefield in Kansas City.


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/index.nsf/Games/2019-05-ind-kc


**************************


One year earlier in 2018, the Colts, led by their all-world quarterback Andrew Luck, were manhandled by the New York Jets ...... that loss dropped the Colts to 1-5 overall.


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/index.nsf/Games/2018-06-ind-nyj


After that embarrassingly disastrous loss to the lowly Jets, the Colts won 9 out of their next 10 games to finish the season at 10-6 overall. That streak included wins over the AFC South champion Houston Texans (11-5), the NFC East champion Dallas Cowboys (10-6), and 2 wins over the Tennessee Titans (9-7) which wound up being the difference between the Colts and the Titans making the playoffs.


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/results.nsf/Teams/2018-ind


In that 2019 post-season, the Colts went on the road to Houston and again beat the Texans to advance to the divisional playoff round.


https://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/index.nsf/Games/2018-post-wc-ind-hou

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Didn't that 2018 team go like 6 straight games without giving up a sack? How I long for those days.

[IndyNorm]

Didn't that 2018 team go like 6 straight games without giving up a sack? How I long for those days.

Yeah, something like that, which is what made Luck retiring crazy ironic since he was sacked the fewest times of anyone in the league in '18.

[apballin]

This team is notoriously known for stepping up for teams that should kill them. For whatever reason I worry more about losing to a team like the Raiders than I do a team like the Eagles. Do good teams play down to us for taking us for granted, or do we really fight out of our weight class for what ever reason is puzzling. It has been an anomaly for a few years.

Like when Paul Justin out gunned Brett Favre

[ChaosTheory]

Like when Paul Justin out gunned Brett Favre

That game stuck with them, too.

"We are playing the Indianapolis Colts right now. This team is not better than us. They're not even good!"

~Eugene Robinson on the sideline during Super Bowl 32, referencing the Denver Broncos as they're about to upset the Packers.

[Colts And Orioles]

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(TIME OF POSSESSION)


The Commanders lead the Eagles by a score of 20 -14 at halftime.


And the time of possession is:


COMMANDERS: lllll) 23:49

EAGLES: llllllllllllllllllll 6:11

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[ChaosTheory]

Well... WAS stole our thunder of ending the Eagles' undefeated season.

WAS owned the TOP 40:24 to 19:36. 81 fucking plays, 49 of them were runs. Several drives that were a griiiind. Four turnovers, including three 4th qtr fumbles. One was a desperate last play, but the other two were killers: one near their own 30 and especially the one by Watkins after a 50 yard bomb with 5+ minutes left. Thought for sure they were about to steal the game.

And then one of the stupidest fucking penalties I've seen in a while by Brandon Graham iced it.


We'll see if WAS gave them a wakeup call not to sleep on a team like IND... or hopefully we can help snowball this.

[Colts And Orioles]

o


(TIME OF POSSESSION)


The Commanders lead the Eagles by a score of 20 -14 at halftime.


And the time of possession is:


COMMANDERS: lllll) 23:49

EAGLES: llllllllllllllllllll 6:11

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The Commanders wound up winning the game ...... with a huge advantage in time-of-possession, as well as plays run from scrimmage.

I'm sure that any college or professional team's defense is grateful when their offense can sustain long drives, which simultaneously allows them to rest while making the opponent's defense labor.

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[JAFF]

Yeah, something like that, which is what made Luck retiring crazy ironic since he was sacked the fewest times of anyone in the league in '18.

How many sacks did he have in the 4 previous years. He suffered a lacerated internal organ behind that line

[CletusPyle]

The worst outcome last night was Washington getting a win over the Eagles! It was already going to be a tall order to beat Philly, now we catch them coming off their first loss....not what I was hoping for!

[Colts And Orioles]

The worst outcome last night was Washington getting a win over the Eagles !!! It was already going to be a tall order to beat Philly, now we catch them coming off their first loss ...... not what I was hoping for !!!





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I don't buy the "Well, now they're really mad, so they will play a lot better" sentiment.

That thesis is similar to "Don't say anything bad about the other team to the press, or they'll really be motivated to kick our asses."


The Colts' offensive line is either going to play well and give the Eagles a good game, or they will revert back to the way that they have been playing for 8 out of the first 10 games and get their heads handed to them. And as we saw last night, an offense that functions well with long, sustained drives can help a defense by not having them constantly out there on the field ...... a defense constantly being on the field due to a non-existent offense is what happened when the Patriots annihilated the Colts the week before the Raiders game.

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[ChaosTheory]

The worst outcome last night was Washington getting a win over the Eagles! It was already going to be a tall order to beat Philly, now we catch them coming off their first loss....not what I was hoping for!

It'll be tough. They're definitely good, but I'm not sure they're quite the juggernaut that 8-0 implies. They've beaten DAL and given MIN their sole loss of the season so far.

Not to downplay them... but the rest of their schedule has been: a split with WAS (5-5) and wins over DET (3-6), JAX (3-7), ARZ (4-6), PIT (3-6) and HOU (1-7-1). Can't control the schedule, but those aren't great teams. Plus, in their past five games, their defense has given up rushing totals of 152, 168, 144, 134, and 124 yards.

Also, our D has been effective in the past at keeping dynamic QB's in the hole. The big issue there is Kwity Paye being injured which will really hurt this week if he's out.

We have a real shot if the OL can string together consecutive games. And more importantly, stop turning the ball over. Because that's one thing PHI has been awesome at. Up until last night, they only had 3 giveaways all season and they were 8-0. Last night, they had 4 and earned their first loss.

[Brylok]

The worst outcome last night was Washington getting a win over the Eagles! It was already going to be a tall order to beat Philly, now we catch them coming off their first loss....not what I was hoping for!

Yeah, they might smack us now in a statement game for them. Who knows?

[Luck4Reich]

The worst outcome last night was Washington getting a win over the Eagles! It was already going to be a tall order to beat Philly, now we catch them coming off their first loss....not what I was hoping for!


Maybe..... Or maybe they got exposed a little. Can't stop the run and we have the best RB in the game even not at 100%

This could also be a slide for the eagles as in a losing streak..

[IndyNorm]

How many sacks did he have in the 4 previous years. He suffered a lacerated internal organ behind that line

Well he was sacked 0 times in '17. Obviously he got killed behind the OLs from '12-'16, which is part of the irony.

[apballin]

How many sacks did he have in the 4 previous years. He suffered a lacerated internal organ behind that line

He got the lacerated organ scrambling around and refusing to slide

[ColtBlue]

It'll be tough. They're definitely good, but I'm not sure they're quite the juggernaut that 8-0 implies. They've beaten DAL and given MIN their sole loss of the season so far.

Not to downplay them... but the rest of their schedule has been: a split with WAS (5-5) and wins over DET (3-6), JAX (3-7), ARZ (4-6), PIT (3-6) and HOU (1-7-1). Can't control the schedule, but those aren't great teams. Plus, in their past five games, their defense has given up rushing totals of 152, 168, 144, 134, and 124 yards.

Also, our D has been effective in the past at keeping dynamic QB's in the hole. The big issue there is Kwity Paye being injured which will really hurt this week if he's out.

We have a real shot if the OL can string together consecutive games. And more importantly, stop turning the ball over. Because that's one thing PHI has been awesome at. Up until last night, they only had 3 giveaways all season and they were 8-0. Last night, they had 4 and earned their first loss.

I agree with everything you just said. I don't think Eagles are a juggernaut team. They have faced some weak teams for sure and won. Colts have faced some weak teams and lost or tied. Colts beat Chiefs thanks for Jones shooting himself in the foot.

It will come down to can OL hold up to the better DL Eagles team has compared to the other DLines we have folded on. Are Eagles DL great no, but they know how to get at the QB this year.. Is Ryan going to have his earlier turnover stats or is he going to take care of the ball?

I'm rooting Colts no matter what!

Go Colts!!!!

[BCN#1]

Count me in the minority I suppose but maybe we surprise the Iggles. We did beat the Chiefs when most thought we would roll over and take a beating like a whipped dog... just sayin and I am more or less sober! :D

[JAFF]

The defense plays as it can, they have a punchers chance.

Paris Cambell and Pitman give the offense some balance so they cant crowd the LOS for the run.

If they can avoid turn overs, it will be a close game.

[ChaosTheory]

Eagles adding Ndamukong Suh. Wonder if he plays Sunday. Can't be, right?

[omahacolt]

Eagles adding Ndamukong Suh. Wonder if he plays Sunday. Can't be, right?

sure he could


colts could have used him

[Brylok]

Eagles adding Ndamukong Suh. Wonder if he plays Sunday. Can't be, right?

I wonder which of our players he will cheapshot or hurt?

[Pez]

Count me in the minority I suppose but maybe we surprise the Iggles. We did beat the Chiefs when most thought we would roll over and take a beating like a whipped dog... just sayin and I am more or less sober! :D

I'm hopping on this bus.... I mean it's not like the Eagles can run around bragging that they beat Washington or anything.

[JAFF]

sure he could


colts could have used him

Where? DE?

[omahacolt]

Where? DE?

no. care to guess again

[omahacolt]

I wonder which of our players he will cheapshot or hurt?

will fries

then pryor will come in and make our lives miserable again

[ChaosTheory]

will fries

then pryor will come in and make our lives miserable again

So the smart move for Saturday would be to start Pryor, have him chop block Suh a few times, get his nuts stomped on or something, then bring Fries in.

Suh gone, Pryor gone. Win, win.

[MeSayDayo]

We are all playing checkers sir. Well done

[JAFF]

no. care to guess again

No

[Brylok]

will fries

then pryor will come in and make our lives miserable again

That would fit right in for this season.

[omahacolt]

That would fit right in for this season.

wouldn't it?


i almost didn't want to even put it out there

[IndyNorm]

So the smart move for Saturday would be to start Pryor, have him chop block Suh a few times, get his nuts stomped on or something, then bring Fries in.

Suh gone, Pryor gone. Win, win.

Best idea posted on the board in quite some time. Unfortunately it'll most likely go down like Omaha's prediction :cool:.

[ColtBlue]

So the smart move for Saturday would be to start Pryor, have him chop block Suh a few times, get his nuts stomped on or something, then bring Fries in.

Suh gone, Pryor gone. Win, win.


NOOOOO....LMAO!!! The smart move keep Pryor on bench or out of the stadium..Suh will destroy and hurt Pryor. Pryor as much is I don't want him on this team. I don't want anyone getting hurt... lol

[Colts And Orioles]

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OK, it's one thing for a team that probably got shot of emotional adrenaline from their new interim head coach to beat another team that is one of the worst in the NFL (the Las Vegas Raiders) ...... and I'm sure that everybody is walking on air right now after that well-played game yesterday, especially in regard to the offensive line having only their 2nd solid game of the season, coupled with the resurgence of Matt Ryan at quarterback.

However ...... it is quite another thing to play like that against a team that is undefeated, and regarded by many as the best in the NFL.


So, the question is ...... can the Colts rise to the occasion and beat the Eagles, or at least play well in defeat and make the Eagles earn a hard-fought victory ??? Most rational people will say "No." A few dreamers with royal blue sun-glasses will say, "Maybe." Either way, one thing is for sure ...... the brief honeymoon phase for Jeff Saturday will end on Sunday, regardless of the outcome of that game. If the Colts get blown out, then the win over the Raiders will be minimized as one bottom-feeder having beaten another bottom-feeder. And if the Colts win and/or lose a close, well-played game, expectations for the rest of this 2022 season will no longer be apathetically low.

o
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The Colts lost, but Colts fans appeared to be pissed off at the loss, more so than when they lost a 1-point game to the Commanders ...... the expectations from here on out should not be as apathetic as they had been 2 weeks ago, after the annihilation by the Patriots.

o

[ColtBlue]

Nick Sirianni probably would have let Frank win....Lmfao

[apballin]

A lot of the same old shit, these guys are all talk… play tough until I get hit in the mouth. Bunch of fuckin pussies

[Racehorse]

o


The Colts lost, but Colts fans appeared to be pissed off at the loss, more so than when they lost a 1-point game to the Commanders ...... the expectations from here on out should not be as apathetic as they had been 2 weeks ago, after the annihilation by the Patriots.

o

We have a history with losing games we should have won because of a kicker missing kicks. Goes back nearly two decades. We are tired of that shit.

[JAFF]

We have a history with losing games we should have won because of a kicker missing kicks. Goes back nearly two decades. We are tired of that shit.

In no particular order:
Get closer than 50+ For a FG
Score more than 1 TD
Stop the run

https://www.espn.com/nfl/matchup?gameId=401437849

The Colts played a really good team to a stand still. The kicker didnt chunk a 20 yarder. Put that guy 10 yards closer, the % goes up. Our all pro RB losing a fumble was worse than missing a 50 + FG

The offense couldnt keep the Philly D on the field. Our D ran out off gas and gave up 14 points in the 4th quarter. The Colts lost that game in all three phases.

[Racehorse]

In no particular order:
Get closer than 50+ For a FG
Score more than 1 TD
Stop the run

https://www.espn.com/nfl/matchup?gameId=401437849

The Colts played a really good team to a stand still. The kicker didnt chunk a 20 yarder. Put that guy 10 yards closer, the % goes up. Our all pro RB losing a fumble was worse than missing a 50 + FG

The offense couldnt keep the Philly D on the field. Our D ran out off gas and gave up 14 points in the 4th quarter. The Colts lost that game in all three phases.
You are right, but that does not mean that I am wrong.

[CletusPyle]

We have a history with losing games we should have won because of a kicker missing kicks. Goes back nearly two decades. We are tired of that shit.

https://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/mike_vanderjagt_05252012.jpg

[MeSayDayo]

https://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/mike_vanderjagt_05252012.jpg

This looks a lot like Utecht or Fletcher are trying to block Vandy's kick.

This is literally the kick that ended his career.

I liked Vandy before this as a player. He was very consistent, and I think this miss stayed in his head for the rest of his career (which admittedly wasn't much longer).

Vandy grew up locally to where I am in Ontario. I was a kicker/punter in high school and university and had the pleasure of attending two if Mike's kicking Camps when he played for the Colts. He gave me a lot of one on one time, since we shared the same high school football coach and at the time I was a local prospect.
He was literally the reason I became a Colts fan. It was right around then that I started watching NFL football and I have been obsessed ever since.

He was a dick though, even then and even to high school kids. Was the type of guy that needed to feed his ego amongst kids even though he was the #1 kicker in the NFL at the time. One of his clinics he held at his own house, which was basically a mansion, and had official NFL uprights in his backyard with the net and all. It was cool to nail a few FG's through those with him watching. Basically the pinnacle of my life, as now I am just a washed up 36 year old Dad.

Sorry to get OT.....Go Colts

[Colts And Orioles]

This looks a lot like Utecht or Fletcher are trying to block Vandy's kick.

This is literally the kick that ended his career.

I liked Vandy before this as a player. He was very consistent, and I think this miss stayed in his head for the rest of his career (which admittedly wasn't much longer.)

Vandy grew up locally to where I am in Ontario. I was a kicker/punter in high school and university and had the pleasure of attending two if Mike's kicking Camps when he played for the Colts. He gave me a lot of one on one time, since we shared the same high school football coach and at the time I was a local prospect.

He was literally the reason I became a Colts fan. It was right around then that I started watching NFL football and I have been obsessed ever since.

He was a dick though, even then and even to high school kids. Was the type of guy that needed to feed his ego amongst kids even though he was the #1 kicker in the NFL at the time. One of his clinics he held at his own house, which was basically a mansion, and had official NFL uprights in his backyard with the net and all. It was cool to nail a few FG's through those with him watching. Basically the pinnacle of my life, as now I am just a washed up 36-year old Dad.

Sorry to get OT ...... Go, Colts !!!





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It ended his Colts career.

He played for the Cowboys in 2006, and he played for the Toronto Argonauts in the CFL 2008.

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[CletusPyle]

This looks a lot like Utecht or Fletcher are trying to block Vandy's kick.



LOL....now we know the real story, he was sabotaged!:D

[MeSayDayo]

o


It ended his Colts career.

He played for the Cowboys in 2006, and he played for the Toronto Argonauts in the CFL 2008.

o

Right. But was there any question that he was our guy before this kick? He was hot-tailed out of town after this one. Pretty sure he was the most accurate kicker in NFL history at the time he was released.
And I remember how Adam was so much better because even though he missed the odd chip shot, he was money when it counted most (save for his last season with us, where Frank's loyalty to him easily cost us a few W's)
The idiot kicker thing aside- Vanderjagt was as good as anyone to do it, but was not clutch in the slightest. His career with the Cowboys I don't think lasted the season, and he punted and kicked for the Argos for a few seasons after that. So yes, the kick the basically ended his career.

[Colts And Orioles]

Right.But was there any question that he was our guy before this kick ??? He was hot-tailed out of town after this one. I'm pretty sure that he was the most accurate kicker in NFL history at the time he was released.

And I remember how Adam was so much better because even though he missed the odd chip-shot, he was money when it counted most (save for his last season with us, where Frank's loyalty to him easily cost us a few W's.)

The idiot kicker thing aside, Vanderjagt was as good as anyone to do it, but was not clutch in the slightest. His career with the Cowboys I don't think lasted the season, and he punted and kicked for the Argos for a few seasons after that. So yes, the kick the basically ended his career.





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Believe it or not, the Cowboys gave him a 3-year, $4.5 Million contract shortly after he missed that kick with the Colts.

They cut him near the end of his first season with them, eating the remaining 2 years that they owed him.

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