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ColtBlue
11-03-2022, 05:11 PM
This team has fell off a cliff with the OL play.
I think it contributes to a few different things.
1) Chris Strausser and Kevin Mawae.
2) But the biggest changes I seen from last season of not having a good run game is.
Team Missing:
Mark Glowinski- would I paid him $18mi like Giants probably not but incentives could have been made making him wanting to stay.
Chris Reed- good veteran
Jack Doyle- yes Jack, best blocking TE
Pascal- Not great WR, but very good blocking WR
This is what is missing that made them decent last season as a good run blocking team. They were not a good pass protection team..
Ballard failed at replacing these players. Is Ballard a terrible GM? absolutely not.
IMO, Frank and Ballard would be better on a team with a already franchise QB in place.
These are all my opinions and nothing more please don't smack me around too hard. I'm old and delicate...Lmao
Luck4Reich
11-03-2022, 05:33 PM
This team has fell off a cliff with the OL play.
I think it contributes to a few different things.
1) Chris Strausser and Kevin Mawae.
2) But the biggest changes I seen from last season of not having a good run game is.
Team Missing:
Mark Glowinski- would I paid him $18mi like Giants probably not but incentives could have been made making him wanting to stay.
Chris Reed- good veteran
Jack Doyle- yes Jack, best blocking TE
Pascal- Not great WR, but very good blocking WR
This is what is missing that made them decent last season as a good run blocking team. They were not a good pass protection team..
Ballard failed at replacing these players. Is Ballard a terrible GM? absolutely not.
IMO, Frank and Ballard would be better on a team with a already franchise QB in place.
These are all my opinions and nothing more please don't smack me around too hard. I'm old and delicate...Lmao
Jalen Hurts was available and Ballard passed on him. Yeah hindsight is 2020 but Ballard didn't even seem to make an effort at getting a QB. Also ironic that Hurts is being coached by the guy that use to be our offensive coordinator that got more out of our current offense.
Hard to not point fingers at Ballard and Reich..
Imagine the Eagles go on to win the SB...
That would be what twice in a decade that our Assistant coach goes on to be the winning SB coach within a decade.
ColtBlue
11-03-2022, 05:36 PM
Hope they do really. That might be the eye opener for Irsay that both Frank and Ballard need to go. Who knows really
ColtBlue
11-03-2022, 05:38 PM
Jalen Hurts was available and Ballard passed on him. Yeah hindsight is 2020 but Ballard didn't even seem to make an effort at getting a QB. Also ironic that Hurts is being coached by the guy that use to be our offensive coordinator that got more out of our current offense.
Hard to not point fingers at Ballard and Reich..
Imagine the Eagles go on to win the SB...
That would be what twice in a decade that our Assistant coach goes on to be the winning SB coach within a decade.
Sorry forgot to quote damn I'm a rookie..
Hope they do really. That might be the eye opener for Irsay that both Frank and Ballard need to go. Who knows really
ChaosTheory
11-03-2022, 05:55 PM
Jalen Hurts was available and Ballard passed on him. Yeah hindsight is 2020 but Ballard didn't even seem to make an effort at getting a QB.
Didn't make an effort? Jalen Hurts was the 5th QB taken in the 2020 draft. We took Jacob Eason as the 6th QB taken in the 2020 draft. Before that, we drafted Michael Pittman, Jonathan Taylor, and Julian Blackmon. A lot of people said we had the best draft that year.
A month before the draft he brought Philip Rivers in.
ChoppedWood
11-03-2022, 06:06 PM
Jalen Hurts was available and Ballard passed on him. Yeah hindsight is 2020 but Ballard didn't even seem to make an effort at getting a QB. Also ironic that Hurts is being coached by the guy that use to be our offensive coordinator that got more out of our current offense.
Hard to not point fingers at Ballard and Reich..
Imagine the Eagles go on to win the SB...
That would be what twice in a decade that our Assistant coach goes on to be the winning SB coach within a decade.
I wanted Hurts. Few people would have had the humility to get shit-canned the way he did by Saban to then turn around and be even better at another high profile program. If you listen to him in interviews, that is a very focused individual who wants to achieve greatness in the concept of the team.
But alas, if he were here, he would probably suck and Frank would fire him too.
Luck4Reich
11-03-2022, 06:28 PM
Didn't make an effort? Jalen Hurts was the 5th QB taken in the 2020 draft. We took Jacob Eason as the 6th QB taken in the 2020 draft. Before that, we drafted Michael Pittman, Jonathan Taylor, and Julian Blackmon. A lot of people said we had the best draft that year.
A month before the draft he brought Philip Rivers in.
If bringing in Rivers is effort...yikes lol
Yeah that draft looked good for sure but being... At best an easy out in the playoffs or a team that wins just enough each year to get a later first round pick every year isn't what I call fun for most fans.
IndyNorm
11-03-2022, 06:35 PM
This team has fell off a cliff with the OL play.
I think it contributes to a few different things.
1) Chris Strausser and Kevin Mawae.
2) But the biggest changes I seen from last season of not having a good run game is.
Team Missing:
Mark Glowinski- would I paid him $18mi like Giants probably not but incentives could have been made making him wanting to stay.
Chris Reed- good veteran
Jack Doyle- yes Jack, best blocking TE
Pascal- Not great WR, but very good blocking WR
This is what is missing that made them decent last season as a good run blocking team. They were not a good pass protection team..
Ballard failed at replacing these players. Is Ballard a terrible GM? absolutely not.
IMO, Frank and Ballard would be better on a team with a already franchise QB in place.
These are all my opinions and nothing more please don't smack me around too hard. I'm old and delicate...Lmao
Those are certainly factors. IMO Ballard deciding Matt Pryor was a good LT and handing him the starting job is the biggest factor in why our OL sucks this year.
But that doesn't explain why Smith, Kelly, and Nelson suck now too. Not too long ago when you watched a Colts game you'd see all kinds of replays showing those guys completely blow their opponents off the LOS. Now it's the complete opposite of that. Could be Strausser and Mawae, but since Strausser has been here since '19 it seems like more that just those 2.
Luck4Reich
11-03-2022, 06:35 PM
Didn't make an effort? Jalen Hurts was the 5th QB taken in the 2020 draft. We took Jacob Eason as the 6th QB taken in the 2020 draft. Before that, we drafted Michael Pittman, Jonathan Taylor, and Julian Blackmon. A lot of people said we had the best draft that year.
A month before the draft he brought Philip Rivers in.
Also... I love..LOVE JT but sad reality is that most RBs are lucky to last a good 3-4 seasons.... So if Hurts plays in the league for say just 12 years and makes a SB or two ?
At this point we will be lucky if JT last 5-6 years? Do we see a few spectacular years out of him on a team that constantly goes 9-8 or maybe 10-7 and loses in first round of playoffs and we say well .... JT had a hella season... Maybe next year..... Starts to get old to me.... And I'm getting old fast... Like to see another SB or two won by the Colts before I die lol
rcubed
11-03-2022, 10:48 PM
But that doesn't explain why Smith, Kelly, and Nelson suck now too. Not too long ago when you watched a Colts game you'd see all kinds of replays showing those guys completely blow their opponents off the LOS. M
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Long covid affects on the non-vax’d
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ColtBlue
11-04-2022, 12:47 AM
Didn't make an effort? Jalen Hurts was the 5th QB taken in the 2020 draft. We took Jacob Eason as the 6th QB taken in the 2020 draft. Before that, we drafted Michael Pittman, Jonathan Taylor, and Julian Blackmon. A lot of people said we had the best draft that year.
A month before the draft he brought Philip Rivers in.
Best QB besides a Injured Luck..
ColtBlue
11-04-2022, 12:51 AM
Rivers said he moved on cause Colts never said or showed interest. Now what is true?
Dam8610
11-04-2022, 09:03 PM
Jalen Hurts was available and Ballard passed on him. Yeah hindsight is 2020 but Ballard didn't even seem to make an effort at getting a QB. Also ironic that Hurts is being coached by the guy that use to be our offensive coordinator that got more out of our current offense.
Hard to not point fingers at Ballard and Reich..
Imagine the Eagles go on to win the SB...
That would be what twice in a decade that our Assistant coach goes on to be the winning SB coach within a decade.
Jalen Hurts? You're joking, right? This is a joke? That's the only explanation that makes sense. The Eagles put an incredible amount of talent around Jalen Hurts to make him look as good as he has. A.J. Brown has half of Hurts's passing TDs and is on pace for 1,600 receiving yards. DeVonta Smith is his #2 WR, which is almost as good as when Reggie Wayne was the Colts #2 WR, then there's the freakishly large and fast Dallas Goedert at TE, who also projects to a career year, and let's not forget the oft-injured Miles Sanders approaching a career high in carries after 8 games and not missing any time this season. If this was Jalen Hurts's second season starting for the Colts, you'd be calling for Ballard's head for drafting him, with good reason.
This Ehlinger experiment they're purporting to believe makes the team "the most competitive" is likely a calculated risk of throwing away this season in an attempt to get the draft capital to acquire a franchise QB, most likely through the draft. It would look much the same if the name on the back of the jersey was Hurts instead of Ehlinger.
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