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omahacolt
10-02-2022, 04:23 PM
1) this should shut up all the "everything is fine" crowd. its clear what this team is. a very bad team. probably bottom 5. not by talent but by production.

2) this team is constantly unprepared. they have zero intensity or fire to start games. clearly lack leadership, we saw that last year. and most of all this is a fucking soft ass team.

3) colts have more talent than the titans. way less heart

4) fries was better than pinter. which shows there was no competition. that said, fries can't run block for shit. but simmons is a beast so lets give him some time.

5) we can't run. trying to run was wasting downs. yet we did it over and over and over again. that is piss poor coaching

6) buckner really makes everyone around him better. we need to realize his production can't be measured by the stat sheet.

7) ryan is done. play foles or ehlinger.

8) good fucking game from the te room. well done dudes

9) good couple catches from pierce. but dude gets almost no seperation.

10) colts getting bullied by the titans should piss them off. it doesn't

11) for all the things ballard does well, he is too stubborn. we need more talent at premiere positions. he failed to fix the issues on this team. again.

12) ngakoue sucks. paye is coming around but really needs coaching and more moves

13) offensive line coach should be fired today

ChoppedWood
10-02-2022, 04:24 PM
THis is solid, lots and lots of things pointing to a really bad coaching regime- all of which should be fired today not just the OL. Gut it and build from zero because zero is better than negative and the guys we have now, are a negative.

Luck4Reich
10-02-2022, 04:27 PM
It's starting to look like we have too many "I got my money" and don't care players.

YDFL Commish
10-02-2022, 04:30 PM
One thing I would like to point out, is that if we would treat Matt Ryan like Peyton Manning and give him weapons, protection and let him run the show, instead of Reich, then the offense would be so much better.

Hoopsdoc
10-02-2022, 04:47 PM
A gutless spineless heartless jellyfish of a team. They’re Tennessee’s bitch, they’re Jacksonville’s bitch and they don’t f*****g care.

They got their fat contracts, they got their pro bowls and they don’t give a flying f**k

They ran Wentz out of town and 4 games into the season it’s clear that he wasn’t the problem. The problem is they’re a bunch of heartless pussies.

omahacolt
10-02-2022, 04:55 PM
A gutless spineless heartless jellyfish of a team. They’re Tennessee’s bitch, they’re Jacksonville’s bitch and they don’t f*****g care.

They got their fat contracts, they got their pro bowls and they don’t give a flying f**k

They ran Wentz out of town and 4 games into the season it’s clear that he wasn’t the problem. The problem is they’re a bunch of heartless pussies.

wentz has nothing to do with anything. he was an issue but clearly he wasn't the only issue. we all knew that

omahacolt
10-02-2022, 04:56 PM
One thing I would like to point out, is that if we would treat Matt Ryan like Peyton Manning and give him weapons, protection and let him run the show, instead of Reich, then the offense would be so much better.

he fumbles twice a game.


i know he can perform with time but he is part of the problem. we can't protect him enough for him to do what he needs to do

ChoppedWood
10-02-2022, 04:57 PM
wentz has nothing to do with anything. he was an issue but clearly he wasn't the only issue. we all knew that

Except Frank...
Well the Frank that used Wentz to obscure his failings to the owner.

omahacolt
10-02-2022, 04:57 PM
It's starting to look like we have too many "I got my money" and don't care players.

leonard was in good spirits after the game according to doyel


that is part of the problem. probably the majority of the problem

JAFF
10-02-2022, 04:59 PM
It was the same Titans game plan since Vrable became head coach. Nothing surprising, nothing new.

Old idea that works, play the run on the way to the Qb.

:eek:

omahacolt
10-02-2022, 05:01 PM
Except Frank...
Well the Frank that used Wentz to obscure his failings to the owner.

wentz being gone was probably entirely an irsay move. that is my guess anyway

ChoppedWood
10-02-2022, 05:04 PM
wentz being gone was probably entirely an irsay move. that is my guess anyway

Agreed.

My point is we could all see there was a lot more to the failures of this team than just an admittedly bad QB- most notably a bad coach.

However that coach appears to have been able to convince the owner the totality of the problem was the bad QB and avoided taking his share of the blame (which SHOULD have resulted in his dismissal).

Veil is pulled back now, lots of problems on this team, lots of problems with the coaching of this team.

Frank has been exposed for being a bad head coach. Frank needs to be dismissed right fucking now!

YDFL Commish
10-02-2022, 05:18 PM
Has this offense been any good since Siriani left?

Brylok
10-02-2022, 05:35 PM
We need to blow the whole thing up at the end of the season.

As I said in the game thread, Ballard out, Reich out, Jim Irsay out. All high priced/salaried players out. Try to get first round picks for Taylor and Leonard, and if you can't, trade them for what you can get. Start Ehlinger and hopefully draft a franchise QB for the future in the next draft. It's going to hurt, it's going to suck, but I'd rather go 2-15 next year than keep this mess/fraud/sideshow going on and on and on.

Brylok
10-02-2022, 05:40 PM
leonard was in good spirits after the game according to doyel


that is part of the problem. probably the majority of the problem

I like Leonard a lot. Very good player. But this has to end, and he has to go. Celebrating mediocrity cannot continue, let alone low end mediocrity.

Racehorse
10-02-2022, 05:41 PM
We need to blow the whole thing up at the end of the season.

As I said in the game thread, Ballard out, Reich out, Jim Irsay out. All high priced/salaried players out. Try to get first round picks for Taylor and Leonard, and if you can't, trade them for what you can get. Start Ehlinger and hopefully draft a franchise QB for the future in the next draft. It's going to hurt, it's going to suck, but I'd rather go 2-15 next year than keep this mess/fraud/sideshow going on and on and on.

I disagree to an extent. Yeah, blow up the coaching staff. However, the players have the talent to win in this league more often than not. The problem is that they need a coach to put them in the best possible situations to do so. Every team has some level of talent. A good coach, and a good QB are often the difference between the 2021 Jags and the 2022 Jags. Replace Frank, and I bet we sweep the division next year.

ChoppedWood
10-02-2022, 05:41 PM
We need to blow the whole thing up at the end of the season.

As I said in the game thread, Ballard out, Reich out, Jim Irsay out. All high priced/salaried players out. Try to get first round picks for Taylor and Leonard, and if you can't, trade them for what you can get. Start Ehlinger and hopefully draft a franchise QB for the future in the next draft. It's going to hurt, it's going to suck, but I'd rather go 2-15 next year than keep this mess/fraud/sideshow going on and on and on.

Obviously can't test this hypothesis but I would venture to guess this team could win 9 of the remaining 13 just by firing Frank right now. The talent is there for this team, but they need someone that is better at this than him.

The final 2 minutes, dude literally managed the clock so bad that they only had to get ONE first down in the final two minutes to seal it.

The guy is clearly bad at motivating these guys and he makes so many bad decisions in the game it is crazy.

Racehorse
10-02-2022, 05:42 PM
leonard was in good spirits after the game according to doyel


that is part of the problem. probably the majority of the problem

I think he probably meant in good spirits about his injury, not about the game and the loss.

Brylok
10-02-2022, 05:50 PM
Obviously can't test this hypothesis but I would venture to guess this team could win 9 of the remaining 13 just by firing Frank right now.

I don't think so. The rot is too deep now. It's so deep it's making Taylor suck.

ChoppedWood
10-02-2022, 05:51 PM
I disagree to an extent. Yeah, blow up the coaching staff. However, the players have the talent to win in this league more often than not. The problem is that they need a coach to put them in the best possible situations to do so. Every team has some level of talent. A good coach, and a good QB are often the difference between the 2021 Jags and the 2022 Jags. Replace Frank, and I bet we sweep the division next year.

I watch a ton of football, a ton. Though I hate what Goodell has made of this league, I still love watching the insane athleticism these guys display week after week.

That said, and maybe it is just because I am so close to it and watch it with such intense focus, but it seems like the Colts have SOOOOOO many fucking different sets. It seems like the WR / TE group, and including Hines, are a constantly rotating cycle. It seems like it is hard to get continuity in Frank's system unless you are Taylor and Pittman. Seems like he does waaaaaaay too much scheming to try to make the opposition believe he won't be focusing on those two.

Outside of riding Taylor he doesn't seem capable of riding the momentum of particular players.

When a player gets rolling in basketball and he can't miss, you don't sit him down to get him a drink, you ride that wave until his ass collapses.

I literally despise watching Frank overcoach the game so damn much!

Brylok
10-02-2022, 05:56 PM
I disagree to an extent. Yeah, blow up the coaching staff. However, the players have the talent to win in this league more often than not. The problem is that they need a coach to put them in the best possible situations to do so. Every team has some level of talent. A good coach, and a good QB are often the difference between the 2021 Jags and the 2022 Jags. Replace Frank, and I bet we sweep the division next year.

I would agree, but this rot is settled in and getting deeper. Frank isn't a good coach anymore, and his team talent is deteriorating game by game. We need to flush the toilet, and I'm not getting any younger. There's no quick and easy remedy for this. It has been a long time coming, probably before Luck quit. We've just been kicking the can down the road.

Hoopsdoc
10-02-2022, 06:03 PM
Texans and Jags both lost so the Colts are only a game and a half back in the division.

It doesn’t matter though because they can’t beat Jacksonville and they can’t beat Tennessee.

You’d think these guys would have some pride at some point but they don’t. They just don’t care. And Frank can’t do anything about it.

It’s ridiculous. This offensive line was bad last year but it’s just putrid this season. Consider this-the Colts gave up 32 sacks in 17 games last year. They given up almost half that already this year in just 4 games. 15 sacks allowed. That’s 28th in the league. Only the Bears, Bengals, and Commanders are worse.

It’s unbelievable how bad they’ve been.

ChoppedWood
10-02-2022, 06:06 PM
Texans and Jags both lost so the Colts are only a game and a half back in the division.

It doesn’t matter though because they can’t beat Jacksonville and they can’t beat Tennessee.

You’d think these guys would have some pride at some point but they don’t. They just don’t care. And Frank can’t do anything about it.

It’s ridiculous. This offensive line was bad last year but it’s just putrid this season. Consider this-the Colts gave up 32 sacks in 17 games last year. They given up almost half that already this year in just 4 games. 15 sacks allowed. That’s 28th in the league. Only the Bears, Bengals, and Commanders are worse.

It’s unbelievable how bad they’ve been.

Sad as fuck!

Hoopsdoc
10-02-2022, 06:07 PM
They need to start putting asses on the bench. Bench Kelly and Smith. Put Pinter at center, Pryor at right tackle, and Raimann at left tackle.

They have to do something. I mean, it’s not like they can be much worse.

CletusPyle
10-02-2022, 06:07 PM
I watch a ton of football, a ton. Though I hate what Goodell has made of this league, I still love watching the insane athleticism these guys display week after week.

That said, and maybe it is just because I am so close to it and watch it with such intense focus, but it seems like the Colts have SOOOOOO many fucking different sets. It seems like the WR / TE group, and including Hines, are a constantly rotating cycle. It seems like it is hard to get continuity in Frank's system unless you are Taylor and Pittman. Seems like he does waaaaaaay too much scheming to try to make the opposition believe he won't be focusing on those two.

Outside of riding Taylor he doesn't seem capable of riding the momentum of particular players.

When a player gets rolling in basketball and he can't miss, you don't sit him down to get him a drink, you ride that wave until his ass collapses.

I literally despise watching Frank overcoach the game so damn much!

He seems to figure out a way to kill every drive with some asinine gadget play. They get in the red zone just playing pitch and catch and running JT. Just keep going and stop trying to outsmart the other coach with some gadget that never seems to work or end in some kind of penalty! Ryan has been a QB for 15 seasons, let him make more on field decisions.

ChoppedWood
10-02-2022, 06:12 PM
He seems to figure out a way to kill every drive with some asinine gadget play. They get in the red zone just playing pitch and catch and running JT. Just keep going and stop trying to outsmart the other coach with some gadget that never seems to work or end in some kind of penalty! Ryan has been a QB for 15 seasons, let him make more on field decisions.

Yep, smart guy man, smart guy. If he doesn't tell you, well he'll sure as fuck show you.

Literally the worst coach I have ever watched. Can't even imagine what it must be like trying to go out for a night on the town with him. The dinner order alone would likely have the chef spitting and worse on the food because of all the alterations he probably requests.

He has to have some form of neurotic complex.

omahacolt
10-02-2022, 06:15 PM
I think he probably meant in good spirits about his injury, not about the game and the loss.

yeah probably

but i don't care. leonard is a me guy from everything i can see.

apballin
10-02-2022, 06:53 PM
I watch a ton of football, a ton. Though I hate what Goodell has made of this league, I still love watching the insane athleticism these guys display week after week.

That said, and maybe it is just because I am so close to it and watch it with such intense focus, but it seems like the Colts have SOOOOOO many fucking different sets. It seems like the WR / TE group, and including Hines, are a constantly rotating cycle. It seems like it is hard to get continuity in Frank's system unless you are Taylor and Pittman. Seems like he does waaaaaaay too much scheming to try to make the opposition believe he won't be focusing on those two.

Outside of riding Taylor he doesn't seem capable of riding the momentum of particular players.

When a player gets rolling in basketball and he can't miss, you don't sit him down to get him a drink, you ride that wave until his ass collapses.

I literally despise watching Frank overcoach the game so damn much!

I was thinking that today while watching like wtf we rotate guys in like a fire drill after every fuckin play

Hoopsdoc
10-02-2022, 07:06 PM
Texans and Jags both lost so the Colts are only a game and a half back in the division.

It doesn’t matter though because they can’t beat Jacksonville and they can’t beat Tennessee.

You’d think these guys would have some pride at some point but they don’t. They just don’t care. And Frank can’t do anything about it.

It’s ridiculous. This offensive line was bad last year but it’s just putrid this season. Consider this-the Colts gave up 32 sacks in 17 games last year. They given up almost half that already this year in just 4 games. 15 sacks allowed. That’s 28th in the league. Only the Bears, Bengals, and Commanders are worse.

It’s unbelievable how bad they’ve been.

I’d also like to remind people that the Colts have more money invested in their offensive line than any other team.

It’s just ridiculous. Someone needs to be fired, benched, or cut.

Chromeburn
10-02-2022, 07:56 PM
A gutless spineless heartless jellyfish of a team. They’re Tennessee’s bitch, they’re Jacksonville’s bitch and they don’t f*****g care.

They got their fat contracts, they got their pro bowls and they don’t give a flying f**k

They ran Wentz out of town and 4 games into the season it’s clear that he wasn’t the problem. The problem is they’re a bunch of heartless pussies.

Matt Ryan has a better QB rating than Wentz. Wentz would be 0-4 on this team without JT’s running.

dwilli57
10-02-2022, 07:58 PM
Texans and Jags both lost so the Colts are only a game and a half back in the division.

It doesn’t matter though because they can’t beat Jacksonville and they can’t beat Tennessee.

You’d think these guys would have some pride at some point but they don’t. They just don’t care. And Frank can’t do anything about it.

It’s ridiculous. This offensive line was bad last year but it’s just putrid this season. Consider this-the Colts gave up 32 sacks in 17 games last year. They given up almost half that already this year in just 4 games. 15 sacks allowed. That’s 28th in the league. Only the Bears, Bengals, and Commanders are worse.

It’s unbelievable how bad they’ve been.

And they can't beat Houston.

nate505
10-02-2022, 07:59 PM
I don't understand how the line is so bad. Was the last 2-3 years some sort of mirage? Weren't they good at one time? Were Constanzo and Glowinski just that critical to their success? Did they all forget how to play football? Were they all just playing for a paycheck?

I haven't seen an OL this bad for the Colts since Samson Satele and Mike McGlynn were a part of the team.

IndyNorm
10-02-2022, 08:04 PM
I was thinking that today while watching like wtf we rotate guys in like a fire drill after every fuckin play

I noticed as well. Woods was replaced after his big play and Pierce was switched out after every catch he made (or at least it seemed like).

JAFF
10-02-2022, 08:07 PM
I don't understand how the line is so bad. Was the last 2-3 years some sort of mirage? Weren't they good at one time? Were Constanzo and Glowinski just that critical to their success? Did they all forget how to play football? Were they all just playing for a paycheck?

I haven't seen an OL this bad for the Colts since Samson Satele and Mike McGlynn were a part of the team.

They would be an improvement at this point

Hoopsdoc
10-02-2022, 08:15 PM
They would be an improvement at this point

Well, let’s not get crazy….

JAFF
10-02-2022, 08:23 PM
Well, let’s not get crazy….


Its that fucking bad. Those guys at the least played hard. The O line of the colts should be ashamed of themselves.

nate505
10-02-2022, 08:28 PM
Its that fucking bad. Those guys at the least played hard. The O line of the colts should be ashamed of themselves.

I totally agree. Say what you want about Satele and McGlynn, but they at least tried. They were just fringe players at best on the NFL level.

This group of clowns has proven they can play in the NFL. They just don't seem to care.

Chromeburn
10-02-2022, 08:35 PM
I think this team rebounds in a week or two. Then it will be a mad dash to the end of the season again.

omahacolt
10-02-2022, 08:41 PM
I think this team rebounds in a week or two. Then it will be a mad dash to the end of the season again.

why would you think that?

Oldcolt
10-02-2022, 08:47 PM
It is amazing how badly these assholes have played since they got paid. I’m talking both players and coaches. Reich gets himself a nice contract extension and forgets how to coach. Offensive line has 3 budding all-pros, they get paid and now can’t block for shit. It goes on. Ballard takes the majority of the blame to me. He keeps harping on having ‘high quality’ guys. He is right except he has zero idea of how to evaluate for that. We even have one guy who’s only job is to make sure we get the right mind set in players. There is no answer to this. We will just have to live with a shit team for the foreseeable future. Damn this sucks.

Chromeburn
10-02-2022, 09:19 PM
why would you think that?

Because a lot of the oline issues are communication related. Between QB and Kelly and Kelly along the line. They are getting beat too at times. But they have issues with stunts and blitzes which is mostly just picking up your guy. From what I’ve been hearing on the radio by vets looking at the team they say those issues can get fixed, but it takes time. Usually after a 1/4 or 1/3rd of the season or so. They are showing flashes but not consistency.

apballin
10-02-2022, 09:27 PM
I think this team rebounds in a week or two. Then it will be a mad dash to the end of the season again.

I agree… Stop turning the fucking ball over

Brylok
10-02-2022, 09:39 PM
KC is back to normal it seems. They're smoking Tampa Bay 28-10 two minutes before halftime in Tampa. Last week's Colts win was a fluke and fraud. KC just beat themselves. We need to flush the majority of the Colts out in the off season...from top to bottom.

Chromeburn
10-02-2022, 09:54 PM
I agree… Stop turning the fucking ball over

Gotta protect him. I do blame Ballard in that he fucked around with the LT position for three years. Maybe four. You have to have a good player at that position.

omahacolt
10-02-2022, 10:38 PM
Because a lot of the oline issues are communication related. Between QB and Kelly and Kelly along the line. They are getting beat too at times. But they have issues with stunts and blitzes which is mostly just picking up your guy. From what I’ve been hearing on the radio by vets looking at the team they say those issues can get fixed, but it takes time. Usually after a 1/4 or 1/3rd of the season or so. They are showing flashes but not consistency.

but they struggle with physically blocking people as well. and can't run block at all

CanuckColt
10-02-2022, 10:51 PM
It's starting to look like we have too many "I got my money" and don't care players.

BINGO! Right on the money!
But how do you change 'guaranteed money' contracts.

ChoppedWood
10-02-2022, 11:21 PM
I noticed as well. Woods was replaced after his big play and Pierce was switched out after every catch he made (or at least it seemed like).

Yeah, it's like he has this fucking participation trophy model going. Johnny got his play so he's getting his medal, need to get Alec his next, and then we gotta get one for Peggy- oh can't forget that we need to get Hines one too- but not too many, don't want to hurt anyone's feelings that they aren't being included in the group.

He is seriously a fucking stooge.

I know people think I am over the top with my ragging on him, but I just can't help it, he is THAT bad at this shit!

If you watch the other games played, even the really bad teams- Chicago, Carolina, etc... They have their share of plays where someone gets behind the D, hits em' with a slant to the house, a go route, a post, etc... you see them run intentional 2-3 step drop and let it go passes- playing at a fast tempo taking little 5-7 yard gains- even the bad teams do this type of thing.

WE DO NOT! Think about it, in the game thread we sarcastically post "look a quick pass" whenever there is one - because they are that infrequent.

I simply cannot convince myself that between Pittman, Pierce, Dulin, Hines, Campbell and Strachan, we have 6 dudes that just can't get separation- that can't cut inside off the line and be ready to catch a slant in rhythm, I can't believe that if you send Campbell or Hines on a straight streak they can't just run by their corner- I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE WE ARE THAT SHITTY, JUST CAN'T DO IT.

So I bring it back to Frank, to all the fucking substitutions, to the lack of tempo. He's so overbaked this fucking thing it's just charcoal at this point.

His shit must be so fucking programmatic and so static that the opposing DC's just go in, watch the film and say "okay, Hines, Dulin, Pittman, Hines in motion, that's a 10 yard out to Pittman", "Strachan flanked wide right, Cox lined up on the line inside him, that's an in route to Cox so shut it down"; Granson and Cox stacked next to Pryor, run off tackle by Taylor".

Seriously this HAS to be the problem- it has to be. And sadly Frank appears to be so proud of his frankenstein that he can't see that everybody knows what the fuck he is running and so all his fucking mad scientist scheming is getting destroyed, and in turn getting his QB destroyed because they cover up the routes and just crush the line resulting in sacks and hits.

Am I wrong about this, am I wrong that he doesn't seem to be willing to adjust at fucking all? Even the announcers were talking about how "that's Frank Reich" at times, dude must be a terrible fucking poker player, though I am sure he could explain to you how to be a great gentleman at the table and respect his competition and be graceful in losing.

ChaosTheory
10-03-2022, 01:15 AM
This game was flat-out decided by turnovers. No mystery.

-Defense had one truly awful drive. Bad in the 1st Qtr, less bad in the 2nd, then TEN had 28 yards in the second half.

-DEF was fucked having to start at their own 28 and 32. FG's would've been nice, but field position is a thing.

-Fries played better than Pinter has.

-I might be wrong, but the OL was bizarre. Murdered in the run game and got bitch-made on a few key pass-rushes, awful... but they were also somehow able to give Ryan a better pocket to sit in most of the game than he had against JAX or KC...

-...as a result, somehow, the pass-game/receiving corps probably looked better than it has so far, especially TE's.

-Last drive of 1st qtr, last drive of 2nd qtr, first drive of 3rd qtr all looked really good from the passing-game.

-Ryan had some rhythm, time and the guys were making some good catches, YAC, it was there.

-But despite moving the ball on our other drives, they were sniped by 3 fumbles, an INT, and a crucial sack on the final drive that made it 4th-and-21.

-Matt Ryan will fumble if you yell at him. It's utterly astonishing. He has 9 in four games, the record is 23.

-At least JT only dropped the ball after 300lbs of Teair Tart crushed his ankle. Tart also made a great play on the INT.

Mr. Session
10-03-2022, 05:05 AM
Looks like they finally broke JT. They’ve been trying their best to do that for two years now.

I personally think Ballard deserves another go, but we need a HC who can take more control. This should be a selling point imo, and give us some leverage in hiring.

Assuming Irsay hires someone competent, they could have more agency in drafting talent and Ballard can serve more as a resource as opposed to the decision maker there (at least in 100% capacity).

I would like to see them work for Payton.

njcoltfan
10-03-2022, 05:48 AM
Looks like they finally broke JT. They’ve been trying their best to do that for two years now.

I personally think Ballard deserves another go, but we need a HC who can take more control. This should be a selling point imo, and give us some leverage in hiring.

Assuming Irsay hires someone competent, they could have more agency in drafting talent and Ballard can serve more as a resource as opposed to the decision maker there (at least in 100% capacity).

I would like to see them work for Payton.

Reich looks totally lost on the sidelines, kinda like a deer in the headlights thing !! He has to go !!

Racehorse
10-03-2022, 06:30 AM
they can’t beat Tennessee.


This is what pisses me off about yesterday. The second half proved that we can beat them. WE just wait until after halftime to demolish them. They got about 25 yards from scrimmage after the half. Where was that in the first half? We play like that in the first, and they roll over. Are you hearing me, Frank?

albany ed
10-03-2022, 07:04 AM
On the long pass to Pierce, I was surprised by how under thrown the pass was. Pierce was behind the defender and to me the pass needed to be 10 to 15 yards further downfield. Ryan actually wound up and threw the pass with everything he had and was still way too short. The only reason it worked was that Pierce saw it and the defender did not. I don't want to judge Ryan's arm on just this one pass, but I'm getting the impression that the reason we don't go deep is that Ryan doesn't have the needed arm strength.

ChoppedWood
10-03-2022, 07:42 AM
On the long pass to Pierce, I was surprised by how under thrown the pass was. Pierce was behind the defender and to me the pass needed to be 10 to 15 yards further downfield. Ryan actually wound up and threw the pass with everything he had and was still way too short. The only reason it worked was that Pierce saw it and the defender did not. I don't want to judge Ryan's arm on just this one pass, but I'm getting the impression that the reason we don't go deep is that Ryan doesn't have the needed arm strength.

Yeah that was pretty alarming even though it was a long catch.

Oldcolt
10-03-2022, 08:43 AM
This has been a steady decline over more than a year. We have small upticks where we look like a decent team but those seem just to be teases so they can break your fucking heart the next week. These are professional football players who a third of the way thru a season cannot pick up a stunt or run block for shit. This team is getting worse not better and like i said it has been going on for over a year. The fantasy island that some of us live on where just a little tweak to the mental side of things and we are on the road to being relevant again is nice but not real. These players stink, they keep showing us year after year that they lack the internal fortitude to compete but we don’t want to believe what they are telling us with their play. Instead we are buying their lame excuses. All they have for us is talk. Wish they would shut up and just execute on the field but that ain’t ever going to happen with this bunch of shitheads.

Oldcolt
10-03-2022, 09:28 AM
This is what pisses me off about yesterday. The second half proved that we can beat them. WE just wait until after halftime to demolish them. They got about 25 yards from scrimmage after the half. Where was that in the first half? We play like that in the first, and they roll over. Are you hearing me, Frank?

Racehorse, every game has a what if we did this better we would have won. Crappy teams are like that, they find a way to lose. We are a crappy team. We are not going to clean this up, we are getting worse not better. And if we clean one thing up it will be another issue that raises its head, it always is with this group. When teams are consistently moving in the wrong direction game after game, year after year the core is rotten. I think that is where we find ourselves. If this was the first time it had happened I would be all on board that we an turn it around. It isn’t the first time by a long shot. I have a hard time believing that this team has any belief in itself or the coaches. They have been down this road to many times and have been complete failures to many times in their attempts at sustaining any form of excellence. I root for a team that is complete shit. It has taken me two years of declining play to get here but here I am.

Sorry about two rants in a row. I am just so frustrated and pissed. Not meaning to take it out on your Freaks.

albany ed
10-03-2022, 10:11 AM
The Colts have a shitload of money tied up in the OL, and now that they are being paid, they have relaxed and are not performing. Even Nelson looked like shit yesterday.

Mr. Session
10-03-2022, 11:50 AM
Sorry about two rants in a row. I am just so frustrated and pissed. Not meaning to take it out on your Freaks.

We are all with you brother.

This is insane.

ChoppedWood
10-03-2022, 11:52 AM
This is what pisses me off about yesterday. The second half proved that we can beat them. WE just wait until after halftime to demolish them. They got about 25 yards from scrimmage after the half. Where was that in the first half? We play like that in the first, and they roll over. Are you hearing me, Frank?

There is little question this team has sufficient talent to compete at the highest level.

They is also little question that they are not being properly motivated to do so and it has become acceptable to suck. I thought Caldwell as a cardboard cut out, Frank may be the pulp used to create the cardboard. Dude has NO gravitas on that sideline, he does nothing to prove that he can inspire this squad, he brings ZERO to this team and there is ZERO reason for him to continue at the helm- ZERO!

albany ed
10-03-2022, 11:55 AM
There are none or not many RBs faster than JT. Yet, we never seem to see any outside runs. I just think it would loosen up the middle where he really had been effective last year.

rcubed
10-03-2022, 12:43 PM
I am done with this coaching staff, we need a new one next year. I am fine with ballard for now but he needs to adjust some, which he probably wont.

ChaosTheory
10-03-2022, 12:43 PM
There are none or not many RBs faster than JT. Yet, we never seem to see any outside runs. I just think it would loosen up the middle where he really had been effective last year.

We haven't done many outside runs in general. Even Hines/WR's on jet sweeps like we've done before. I feel like I see soft looks quite a few times when they do the jet sweep motion, but they aren't calling it. I agree, it would loosen up the box and create some false-steps by defenders.



This is what pisses me off about yesterday. The second half proved that we can beat them. WE just wait until after halftime to demolish them. They got about 25 yards from scrimmage after the half. Where was that in the first half? We play like that in the first, and they roll over. Are you hearing me, Frank?

Yesterday was like the HOU game, especially offensively. It wasn't like JAX or KC. Our OL wasn't constantly allowing the pocket to collapse. But they did get flat out beat in some 1-on-1's against some good D-lineman.

But then Matt Ryan takes it from being a negative play to a full-blown fucking catastrophe with the fumbling. If it's not giving TEN the ball already in scoring range, it's creating a 3rd-and-impossible when it should be 3rd-and-medium.

Not only is it stopping our own offense which is moving the ball effectively even with zero running game... but it's pinning our defense in terrible position while they otherwise played plenty well enough to win.

rcubed
10-03-2022, 12:44 PM
I think this team rebounds in a week or two. Then it will be a mad dash to the end of the season again.
I would guess we will win just enough games to put us out of contention for drafting a top QB and we know ballard isnt moving up to get one, so.......

ChaosTheory
10-03-2022, 12:45 PM
I am done with this coaching staff, we need a new one next year. I am fine with ballard for now but he needs to adjust some, which he probably wont.

What would a new coaching staff have provided us yesterday? Extra time in practice not turning the ball over at your own 30?

Chromeburn
10-03-2022, 12:59 PM
I would guess we will win just enough games to put us out of contention for drafting a top QB and we know ballard isnt moving up to get one, so.......

Mediocrity sucks. Although this might be a deep QB class with guys that have potential but need developing. I don’t know if I love the top couple guys.

Chromeburn
10-03-2022, 01:01 PM
but they struggle with physically blocking people as well. and can't run block at all

Only takes one failed block to collapse the hole. They just aren’t playing as a unit. I don’t know. That’s what the oline vets were saying last week. We will find out soon.

rcubed
10-03-2022, 03:09 PM
What would a new coaching staff have provided us yesterday? Extra time in practice not turning the ball over at your own 30?


I feel like we have been in constant decline with this group for a while. Seems like we could use a new voice next season.