Colts Trade Wentz to Washington

[Coltsalr]

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1501630862261108742?s=10

Good riddance.

[ChoppedWood]

More than a pack of 70's porn mags and a box of cigs, so I say a win for the Colts.

[Coltsalr]

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1501631242948730880?s=21

They’re paying his FULL contract too!

[rcubed]

wow!

[YDFL Commish]

For two 3rd's. Good deal for us.

[ChaosTheory]

wow!

No shit...

[rm1369]

Pretty good deal for the Colts considering.

[ChaosTheory]

For two 3rd's. Good deal for us.

On top of getting out from that contract, too.

We were 5th in cap space before, I think. We must be #1 now, right?

[daedge]

For two 3rd's. Good deal for us.

One of which could become a second, too. Also, swapping second round picks moves the Colts up to 42 from 47 in this year's draft.

Sure, the Eagles fleeced us, but we did well to get what we got for him.

[YDFL Commish]

Washington fans can't be happy about this.

[Spike]

This is an absolute WIN WIN for the Colts. I got so fucking sick of Wentz, so glad to be rid of his ass. The compensation is more than I could have ever expected for his sorry ass. Good luck with that trade Washington.

One of the 3rd rounders could turn into a 2nd rounder.

[Colts And Orioles]

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I liked Wentz, and I was one of the few very Colts fans who expected him to have a solid season in 2022 after having had a year of experience under his belt with his new team.

That said, this sounds like a great deal ...... we may have to essentially sacrifice one season while we're scrounging around for a long-term solution at quarterback, but we may have had to do that anyway if Wentz was still here and did not have the good season that I was expecting him to have. I could live with one mediocre, Jacoby Brissett-ish type of season like we had in 2019 if we could bounce right back after finding a bona-fide top quarterback for the following season (like we did when we acquired Philip Rivers for the 2020 season, and went 11-5 and took the Bills right down to the wire in a playoff game on their home-field.)

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[ChaosTheory]

It's already been updated. The Colts are now #1 in cap space at just under $70m. That's nearly $14m ahead of #2 LAC.

Cannot believe they got out of that contract.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

[Chaka]

One of which could become a second, too. Also, swapping second round picks moves the Colts up to 42 from 47 in this year's draft.

Sure, the Eagles fleeced us, but we did well to get what we got for him.

Agreed. Assuming Wentz plays 70% of the Wash snaps, the Colts' net loss from a draft capital standpoint is the difference between a first and second round pick, minus the slightly better draft positioning that Wash is providing to us in 2nd and 3rd round this year.

Not a bad exit from a gamble that didn't work out the way the Colts wanted. Say what you want about Ballard, but he's a decisive guy and does not linger on his mistakes. I continue to think he's one of the best.

That said, I'm bummed it didn't work out, and I'm curious to see where we go from here.

[Chaka]

It's already been updated. The Colts are now #1 in cap space at just under $70m. That's nearly $14m ahead of #2 LAC.

Cannot believe they got out of that contract.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

Wentz's contract wasn't all that bad for a veteran starting QB these days, and it might have increased his tradability. If I recall correctly, they'll be committed to him for 1 year at about $25M, and then will have three option years with no cap impact if he's cut.

[ChaosTheory]

Wentz's contract wasn't all that bad for a veteran starting QB these days, and it might have increased his tradability. If I recall correctly, they'll be committed to him for 1 year at about $25M, and then will have three option years with no cap impact if he's cut.

True, the QB market is bananas nowadays. But the Colts not wanting him and being able to knock off over $28m is a relief.

[Chromeburn]

Been waiting for this. I suspected Tampa or Washington. Be fun watching him play the eagles twice a year. All the Eagle Wentz truthers will be so torn who to root for.

[nate505]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/igJK985xZj8Cqq0YOW/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611d9d738494c0a4d234c2c75dc0f72 9949f9ba2efc&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[Hoopsdoc]

Random internet comment- Wentz will once again be throwing to the Eagles next season.

This had to happen. I actually think this reflects well in Ballard and Reich. They made a mistake, it was CLEARLY a mistake and it wasn’t going to work. Instead of letting their egos dictate that they try it again and hope for the best, they swallowed their pride and did what they had to do.

I don’t know what they’re gonna do at quarterback next year. They may actually be worse, that’s a real possibility. But they had to do something because they KNEW Wentz wasn’t gonna work. They have to keep looking.

[Hoopsdoc]

Someone said Washingtons super bowl odds actually went down after this trade. I don’t know how accurate that is but if true, it’s hilarious.

I would be FURIOUS if I were a redskins fan.

[Oldcolt]

We talk is such a waste of physical talent. To me the most telling thing is that the lack of support he got from the locker room. Glad this is over

[rm1369]

Random internet comment- Wentz will once again be throwing to the Eagles next season.

This had to happen. I actually think this reflects well in Ballard and Reich. They made a mistake, it was CLEARLY a mistake and it wasn’t going to work. Instead of letting their egos dictate that they try it again and hope for the best, they swallowed their pride and did what they had to do.

I don’t know what they’re gonna do at quarterback next year. They may actually be worse, that’s a real possibility. But they had to do something because they KNEW Wentz wasn’t gonna work. They have to keep looking.

In general I don’t disagree, but I believe Irsay provided them quite a push as well.

[JAFF]

It's already been updated. The Colts are now #1 in cap space at just under $70m. That's nearly $14m ahead of #2 LAC.

Cannot believe they got out of that contract.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

Without a Qb

[apballin]

We play Washington at home this season

That’ll be interesting

[YDFL Commish]

In general I don’t disagree, but I believe Irsay provided them quite a push as well.

Absolutely Irsay did not want Went back. My feeling is that Irsay and Ballard said fuck no and Reich had to relent.

I heard on the radio today that Irsay said that he didn't want any anti-vaxers back. Anyone know if r is true?

[Hoopsdoc]

Absolutely Irsay did not want Went back. My feeling is that Irsay and Ballard said fuck no and Reich had to relent.

I heard on the radio today that Irsay said that he didn't want any anti-vaxers back. Anyone know if r is true?

I hope that’s not true because that would mean Leonard, Kelly, and Q won’t be back.

[Hoopsdoc]

In general I don’t disagree, but I believe Irsay provided them quite a push as well.

Absolutely he nudged them in the right direction.

[IndyNorm]

Well done Ballard. I figured we'd be lucky to get a mid to late round pick for Wentz. Maybe Wash's GM only watched Wentz's film for the first half or the season or fell asleep for the 2nd half :D. Either way, glad they gave up as much as they did.

Hopefully Ballard has a plan in place to bring in at least a competent vet. Can't see him wanting to roll with Ehlinger or throwing a 2nd/3rd round rookie to the fire like that, but stranger things have happened I suppose.

[IndyNorm]

I hope that’s not true because that would mean Leonard, Kelly, and Q won’t be back.

I can't believe he'd say that considering how many of our players, including some of our best players, are non vaxxed.

[Racehorse]

I am glad posters here have more sense than those on the Facebook groups. We are all glad the experiment is over, while those morons are crying over this move.

[Ironshaft]

Dalton, Newton, Winston, Bridgewater, Trubski. Mariota.

My guess is we bring in one of those guys, draft someone if management thinks there is someone who can become a starter and have Sam in reserve.

If we don't draft someone in 2022, we will likely have the 2023 WAS 2nd round pick to help trade up for a QB in 2023.

[JAFF]

I can't believe he'd say that considering how many of our players, including some of our best players, are non vaxxed.

There is nothing on the internet right now. Irsay is smart enough not to put something like that in public

[apballin]

Dalton, Newton, Winston, Bridgewater, Trubski. Mariota.

My guess is we bring in one of those guys, draft someone if management thinks there is someone who can become a starter and have Sam in reserve.

If we don't draft someone in 2022, we will likely have the 2023 WAS 2nd round pick to help trade up for a QB in 2023.

That’s not ALL-IN, this team can’t afford a development QB we’re ready to win now

[Oldcolt]

Jordan Love may be available. Whomever we get will be flawed.

[JAFF]

Jordan Love may be available. Whomever we get will be flawed.

Why would they trade him? They still need a backup

[Butter]

That’s not ALL-IN, this team can’t afford a development QB we’re ready to win now

Outside of Wilson and Rodgers that carry barely more than a 0% chance of something here, who would you suggest they sign/trade for that puts us over the top?

[apballin]

Outside of Wilson and Rodgers that carry barely more than a 0% chance of something here, who would you suggest they sign/trade for that puts us over the top?

I’ve stated it from the beginning Jimmy G

[Oldcolt]

Why would they trade him? They still need a backup

Two reasons. One the guy is a first round draft choice and I doubt he will be happy to sit for the next 4 years. Secondly it would be a dick move by Green Bay. It would sabotage his career to sit for the first six years of his career behind Rogers. I doubt they will do that or that he would let them.

[JAFF]

Two reasons. One the guy is a first round draft choice and I doubt he will be happy to sit for the next 4 years. Secondly it would be a dick move by Green Bay. It would sabotage his career to sit for the first six years of his career behind Rogers. I doubt they will do that or that he would let them.

Love is on a cheap rookie contract. The front office doesnt give a rats ass about him being happy. It is not summer camp. Its a big $ business and he was happy to sign it.

[Hoopsdoc]

Love is on a cheap rookie contract. The front office doesnt give a rats ass about him being happy. It is not summer camp. Its a big $ business and he was happy to sign it.

Plus, he was absolutely atrocious when he got a chance to play last season. I’m not sure I’d want him.

[smitty46953]

Plus, he was absolutely atrocious when he got a chance to play last season. I’m not sure I’d want him.

Same here, I would pass on him :cool:

[JAFF]

Plus, he was absolutely atrocious when he got a chance to play last season. I’m not sure I’d want him.

Most young guys who dont get reps struggle. Remember, Rogers sat behind Farve for years.

[Butter]

I’ve stated it from the beginning Jimmy G

Seems dubious.

[CletusPyle]

I had heard the Washington rumors, same person that said that, said Derek Carr would be a Colt? We shall see!

[Butter]

I had heard the Washington rumors, same person that said that, said Derek Carr would be a Colt? We shall see!

I would be ok with Carr at a reasonable price, just not sure why the Raiders would be moving on from him.

[CletusPyle]

I would be ok with Carr at a reasonable price, just not sure why the Raiders would be moving on from him.

McAsshole claims Carr will be a Raider next season, but he's probably lying and just trying to get more in trade for him! The problem for the Colts is they have no first round pick to trade, they might need one to get Carr?

[Chromeburn]

I would be ok with Carr at a reasonable price, just not sure why the Raiders would be moving on from him.

Look at their division. Going to be tough to win that let alone get to the playoffs. I can see them shipping him and trying to start over with a QB next year.

[Racehorse]

I had heard the Washington rumors, same person that said that, said Derek Carr would be a Colt? We shall see!

If he is available, he is the one I want here.

[Oldcolt]

I’m not impressed with anyone who is available I don’t want to spend 28 million and draft choices for Jimmy G. Use the money to shore up other positions and I have no idea who should be the QB.

[bigalbert]

Crazy as it sounds with where he’s at, I’d like to give Minshew a try


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[ChaosTheory]

I had heard the Washington rumors, same person that said that, said Derek Carr would be a Colt? We shall see!

What guy and do you specifically mean Wentz to WAS? Weren't they calling everyone?

Carr is about the only one I care to give anything up for. I don't want to give Garoppolo the same money we just saved on Wentz plus picks/players to SF.

[Ironshaft]

For me with Rodgers and Wilson off the board, Carr is the only guy I see as an upgrade possibly available. All the other veteran QBs who will be on the market are one year rentals at based, IMO.

If McDouchbag wants to part ways from him, I don't know that about any price would not be too high to pay for him.

His last 4 seasons of completion percentages? 68.4%, 67.3%, 70.4% and 68.9% in 2018. 90 to 41 TD to INT ratio in that same span. Over 4,000 yards passing each of last 4 seasons. 31 years old when the 2022 season starts.

He is in the last year of his contract and will cost $19.8m of cap space. We would need to sign him to a long term extension but that is the cost of doing business.

His on field and off field leadership is demonstrated. That's the guy I want. If not him, then I don't think it really matters because all the rest are one-year rentals, IMO.

[Spike]

What guy and do you specifically mean Wentz to WAS? Weren't they calling everyone?

Carr is about the only one I care to give anything up for. I don't want to give Garoppolo the same money we just saved on Wentz plus picks/players to SF.

After the Colts, I always pull for the 49ers and I don't want Crapallo either.

[CletusPyle]

What guy and do you specifically mean Wentz to WAS? Weren't they calling everyone?

Carr is about the only one I care to give anything up for. I don't want to give Garoppolo the same money we just saved on Wentz plus picks/players to SF.

This is the guy I was referring to....

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/projecting-2022-qb-moves-if-aaron-rodgers-russell-wilson-stay-kirk-cousins-to-broncos-derek-carr-to-colts/

[CletusPyle]

Crazy as it sounds with where he’s at, I’d like to give Minshew a try


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Has he shaved off the porn mustache?

[Dewey 5]

After the Colts, I always pull for the 49ers and I don't want Crapallo either.

If Ballard wants new employment all he needs to do is sign an average at best qb coming off shoulder surgery. That would do it.

[Brylok]

If Ballard wants new employment all he needs to do is sign an average at best qb coming off shoulder surgery. That would do it.

I've been wondering to myself if Ballard has been losing interest in being Colts GM. He's been arrogant in his interviews and doesn't have a QB since you know who quit. It's probably just me, but I can imagine it getting old after five years.

[omahacolt]

Plus, he was absolutely atrocious when he got a chance to play last season. I’m not sure I’d want him.

but getting him relatively cheap wouldn't be a bad move to see what we can do with him. kid has a talented arm.

[JAFF]

I've been wondering to myself if Ballard has been losing interest in being Colts GM. He's been arrogant in his interviews and doesn't have a QB since you know who quit. It's probably just me, but I can imagine it getting old after five years.

Have the Colts had a losing season with ballard? 1 and they were almost a .500 ball club. If you win more than 3 games, you are not guaranteed a shot at a franchise talent. Its not from a lack of effort. They didnt tank a season, they didnt pull a dolphins.

[rm1369]

but getting him relatively cheap wouldn't be a bad move to see what we can do with him. kid has a talented arm.

Don’t disagree, I’d be willing to see what he can do. I’m just not sure he’d come “relatively cheap”. Between how hot the market is and GB needing to save face for drafting him, I don’t think he’d come all that cheap.

[IndyNorm]

Have the Colts had a losing season with ballard? 1 and they were almost a .500 ball club. If you win more than 3 games, you are not guaranteed a shot at a franchise talent. Its not from a lack of effort. They didnt tank a season, they didnt pull a dolphins.

We've actually had 2 losing seasons under Ballard as we were 4-12 in '17 along w/ 7-9 in '19, but to be fair '17 was the first year under him.

[Oldcolt]

I’ve read where people think Love will go for two third round draft choices. I have no idea what the Colts think of him. He has a gun but so did Wentz

Zac Keefer is reporting the Colts didn’t like Love when he was drafted and don’t see him as the guy now

[Colts And Orioles]

We've actually had 2 losing seasons under Ballard, as we were 4-12 in '17 along with 7-9 in '19 ...... but to be fair, '17 was the first year under him.





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I would put an asterisk next to the 2019 season as well, because Andrew Luck abruptly retired shortly before the start of the season and we had to roll with Jacoby Brissett ...... the very next season, Ballard picked up Philip Rivers who led the Colts to an 11-5 record.

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[ChaosTheory]

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I would put an asterisk next to the 2019 season as well, because Andrew Luck abruptly retired shortly before the start of the season and we had to roll with Jacoby Brissett ...... the very next season, Ballard picked up Philip Rivers who led the Colts to an 11-5 record.

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2017 was kind of similar. Luck wasn't ready to come back and they did the last-minute trade for Brissett who didn't start playing until week 2. We all thought Luck was supposed to come back and then ended up going on IR in November.

[njcoltfan]

We talk is such a waste of physical talent. To me the most telling thing is that the lack of support he got from the locker room. Glad this is over

It's not really over until March 18th !

[rm1369]

I’ve read where people think Love will go for two third round draft choices. I have no idea what the Colts think of him. He has a gun but so did Wentz

Zac Keefer is reporting the Colts didn’t like Love when he was drafted and don’t see him as the guy now

I find that hard to believe considering the market, the lack of major draft talent at QB, and his age / physical talent. Not to mention GB needing to justify what was a curious pick at the time. If true I’d make that trade though.

[Chromeburn]

I’ve read where people think Love will go for two third round draft choices. I have no idea what the Colts think of him. He has a gun but so did Wentz

Zac Keefer is reporting the Colts didn’t like Love when he was drafted and don’t see him as the guy now

The Colts backed off their interest in him. They didn’t like how he got busted before his bowl game, thought it showed poor judgement before the biggest game of his life at that point. Ballard also did a video interview with him before the draft and came away disappointed. So I doubt they will be trading for him.