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smitty46953
03-09-2022, 12:31 PM
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Pro-Bowl left tackle Eric Fisher is not expected to resign with the Colts despite the fact that the two sides have spent recent weeks trying to strike a new deal, per sources. Fisher now is poised to hit free agency next week.
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Armstead a target? :cool:
Brylok
03-09-2022, 01:19 PM
Armstead a target? :cool:
Who knows what they're doing? We should have just signed Leno from the Bears when he was available. The Colts seem to be in disarray these days, and I think the clock is ticking on Ballard and company.
rm1369
03-09-2022, 01:32 PM
Armstead may be a “target”, but it is doubtful the team signs him. Ballard looks primarily for low risk deals that he can win. Armstead will draw enough interest that he won’t be interested in a short term or bargain price deal.
YDFL Commish
03-09-2022, 03:20 PM
Armstead may be a “target”, but it is doubtful the team signs him. Ballard looks primarily for low risk deals that he can win. Armstead will draw enough interest that he won’t be interested in a short term or bargain price deal.
Irsay says all chips in, bring in Armstead and either Amari Cooper or Christian Kirk, should Cooper become available.
smitty46953
03-09-2022, 05:03 PM
Who knows what they're doing? We should have just signed Leno from the Bears when he was available. The Colts seem to be in disarray these days, and I think the clock is ticking on Ballard and company.
Agree 100% on Leno :cool:
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Pro-Bowl left tackle Eric Fisher is not expected to resign with the Colts despite the fact that the two sides have spent recent weeks trying to strike a new deal, per sources. Fisher now is poised to hit free agency next week.
:cool:
Armstead a target? :cool:
Fisher is going on the market, and will find out his value. He may be back. Not for nothing, the Colts still need to buy a Qb. Maybe thats first on their list
Butter
03-09-2022, 08:05 PM
Irsay says all chips in, bring in Armstead and either Amari Cooper or Christian Kirk, should Cooper become available.
He says that, but until we have a solid QB it would be stupid.
YDFL Commish
03-09-2022, 08:21 PM
He says that, but until we have a solid QB it would be stupid.
To a certain point I agree. But how many years of DL, Q, Defo, KM, BS, RK, can you waste? We've got to keep trying to find the immediate future.
IndyNorm
03-09-2022, 08:28 PM
Makes me nervous that Ballard attempted to re-sign Fisher but was unable to and that he's going to go bargain shopping again at LT. Although it could be that Fisher is overestimating his value. Guess we'll find out.
Makes me nervous that Ballard attempted to re-sign Fisher but was unable to and that he's going to go bargain shopping again at LT. Although it could be that Fisher is overestimating his value. Guess we'll find out.
The colts were interested, but there are options. I think Fisher + agent will be disappointed when they go shopping
Butter
03-09-2022, 09:51 PM
To a certain point I agree. But how many years of DL, Q, Defo, KM, BS, RK, can you waste? We've got to keep trying to find the immediate future.
Going all-in on other skills and having no QB is wasting them also.
Kray007
03-09-2022, 10:01 PM
My guess is that Fisher priced himself out of a contract.
My guess is that Fisher priced himself out of a contract.
For now. There is lots of time, and some competition. The Colts may get to the point where they move Smith or Nelson.
Butter
03-09-2022, 10:40 PM
For now. There is lots of time, and some competition. The Colts may get to the point where they move Smith or Nelson.
They should definitely move Nelson for draft picks before we overpay a guard.
Oldcolt
03-09-2022, 11:12 PM
No way is Nelson getting moved. Great players cost. We have what, 70 million in cap space and you think our issue is the extra 7 million (he already costs 13 million) that Nelson will get (I’m assuming he makes around 20 million a year)? I disagree I think it is crazy to trade away a guy who may turn out to be one of the greatest guards if not the greatest guard who ever played the game.
If you moved him to get a sure fire QB you might have an argument however. Don’t see that happening
Butter
03-09-2022, 11:45 PM
For now. There is lots of time, and some competition. The Colts may get to the point where they move Smith or Nelson.
No way is Nelson getting moved. Great players cost. We have what, 70 million in cap space and you think our issue is the extra 7 million (he already costs 13 million) that Nelson will get (I’m assuming he makes around 20 million a year)? I disagree I think it is crazy to trade away a guy who may turn out to be one of the greatest guards if not the greatest guard who ever played the game.
If you moved him to get a sure fire QB you might have an argument however. Don’t see that happening
He is probably going to get left Tacklish money and I worry he has back issue that is going to shorten his career, that money would be better spent regardless on a LT, skills or spread about keeping a strong line.
Oldcolt
03-10-2022, 12:09 AM
It is a risk, his back. The Colts will have to evaluate that with their medical team.
ukcolt
03-10-2022, 05:21 AM
Is Big Q already in consideration for the Hall of Fame if his career was to end now? I am guessing not, as he just hasn't played for long enough, but i would suggest that the quality of his play would put him easily into the frame of contention.
They should definitely move Nelson for draft picks before we overpay a guard.
Because getting rid of a future HOF for an unknown always works. Sarcasm intended
Racehorse
03-10-2022, 07:37 AM
For now. There is lots of time, and some competition. The Colts may get to the point where they move Smith or Nelson.
To Left Tackle?
Thorgrim
03-10-2022, 11:34 AM
The colts were interested, but there are options. I think Fisher + agent will be disappointed when they go shopping
Gotta disagree with you on this one JAFF. There is always someone out there willing to pay more than someone is worth. Do you remember that dumb-ass team that gave up too much draft capital to obtain that Wentz guy last year?
ChaosTheory
03-10-2022, 12:31 PM
The Colts aren't going to give "a guard" left-tackle money. Nelson is arguably the best O-lineman in the league. They're going to give arguably the best O-lineman in the league left-tackle money. 3x First-Team All-Pro (would be 4x if he didn't miss four games).
I've always valued interior OL more than most probably do... but the McGlynn-Satele-Thornton years cemented that stance. Remember how bad people wanted Andrew Norwell?
Even if you don't believe in the merits... think pragmatically. Ballard picked the guy with the #6 overall. Of course he's going to pay him.
YDFL Commish
03-10-2022, 01:49 PM
The Colts aren't going to give "a guard" left-tackle money. Nelson is arguably the best O-lineman in the league. They're going to give arguably the best O-lineman in the league left-tackle money. 3x First-Team All-Pro (would be 4x if he didn't miss four games).
I've always valued interior OL more than most probably do... but the McGlynn-Satele-Thornton years cemented that stance. Remember how bad people wanted Andrew Norwell?
Even if you don't believe in the merits... think pragmatically. Ballard picked the guy with the #6 overall. Of course he's going to pay him.
Ballard has already stated that Nelson's next contract will be in $17 to $20 million.
Gotta disagree with you on this one JAFF. There is always someone out there willing to pay more than someone is worth. Do you remember that dumb-ass team that gave up too much draft capital to obtain that Wentz guy last year?
I agree, lol. Its right out of moneyball. Every team has the $ amount any player in the NFL is worth to THEIR team
To Left Tackle?
Yes to Left tackle. Should have been clearer, my bad
The Colts aren't going to give "a guard" left-tackle money. Nelson is arguably the best O-lineman in the league. They're going to give arguably the best O-lineman in the league left-tackle money. 3x First-Team All-Pro (would be 4x if he didn't miss four games).
I've always valued interior OL more than most probably do... but the McGlynn-Satele-Thornton years cemented that stance. Remember how bad people wanted Andrew Norwell?
Even if you don't believe in the merits... think pragmatically. Ballard picked the guy with the #6 overall. Of course he's going to pay him.
They are going to pay him for being the best O lineman in the league. How do you replace that? They dont grow on trees.
Stop worrying about the money, it doesnt matter. Did the money keep the Colts from dumping Wentz and coming out ahead? Let Irsay worry about the money.
ChaosTheory
03-10-2022, 05:46 PM
They are going to pay him for being the best O lineman in the league. How do you replace that? They dont grow on trees.
Stop worrying about the money, it doesnt matter. Did the money keep the Colts from dumping Wentz and coming out ahead? Let Irsay worry about the money.
I'm not sure what you're saying. How do you replace what?
And what do you mean did the money keep them from dumping Wentz?
I'm not sure what you're saying. How do you replace what?
And what do you mean did the money keep them from dumping Wentz?
You dont let Nelson leave by FA. He’s a once in a generation talent. It tells your team you’re not willing to pay the best that’s the shit Jim Irsay dad pulled on the fans.
The money involved in salaries is all monopoly money. It didn’t prevent us from dumping Wentz to the Washington whatever you’re calling him this week. There’s always a way to maneuver money find money create some ridiculous exception to pay the people you wanna pay. That’s why I don’t worry about it. Also it’s not my money so I probably deep down inside I don’t freaking care
Racehorse
03-10-2022, 07:07 PM
Yes to Left tackle. Should have been clearer, my bad
Thanks. I was afraid you meant moving them for picks.
Thanks. I was afraid you meant moving them for picks.
Aahh no Scott
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rm1369
03-10-2022, 07:24 PM
You dont let Nelson leave by FA. He’s a once in a generation talent. It tells your team you’re not willing to pay the best that’s the shit Jim Irsay dad pulled on the fans.
The money involved in salaries is all monopoly money. It didn’t prevent us from dumping Wentz to the Washington whatever you’re calling him this week. There’s always a way to maneuver money find money create some ridiculous exception to pay the people you wanna pay. That’s why I don’t worry about it. Also it’s not my money so I probably deep down inside I don’t freaking care
You don’t let him leave by FA because you should have been planning to reset the OG market from the day you picked him at 6. Otherwise the pick was completely stupid. It’s pretty much the same with trading him primarily because you have to pay him. The only reason you can justify the pick is because he has been a HOF level player. You can trade him to help get a QB and you can trade him if there are major concerns about his back, but not because he’s exactly what you drafted him to be.
ChaosTheory
03-10-2022, 10:41 PM
You dont let Nelson leave by FA. He’s a once in a generation talent. It tells your team you’re not willing to pay the best that’s the shit Jim Irsay dad pulled on the fans.
Yeah, that's what I was saying. I thought you were implying that we disagreed on Nelson.
As far as money... Yeah it's Monopoly money to an extent for a multi-billionaire like Irsay. But for Ballard and the team, it's the confines of the NFL. I don't pay attention to the cap because I have some principled position on what I think a player's worth is. And I'm also not concerned about being fair to the owner's wallet.
Hypothetically if a player like Nelson were a free agent right now, teams like the Colts could go after him. Teams like the Saints can't. It may be Monopoly money... but they don't have any of it.
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