PFF Grades on Free Agents

[sherck]

If you hate PFF grades, then feel free to move on.

If you are interested in the PFF assigned grades of impending NFL Free Agents at positions of need (and Colts free agents at those positions), then read on.

A grade of 60.0 is considered "NFL average."

I only listed players 30 years old or younger as of 01 Sep 2017. I cannot imagine that Ballard will be interested in signing older players with his talk of "getting younger."

Name / Grade / Age as of 01 Sep 2017 / Team / # Snaps / FA Status

0-Tech NT:

Brandon J. Williams / 75.9 / 28 / Ravens / 636 / UFA
Dontari Poe / 70.5 / 27 / Chiefs / 822 / UFA

Zach Kerr / 42.9 / 27 / Colts / 318 / RFA (FYI)

5-Tech 3-4 DE or 3-Tech 4-3 DT:

Calais Campbell / 90.4 / 30 / Cardinals / 831 / UFA
Kawann Short / 87.7 / 28 / Panthers / 779 / UFA
Chris I. Baker / 82.2 / 29 / Redskins / 782 / UFA
Abry Jones / 81.5 / 25 / Jaguars / 463 / UFA
Karl Klug / 81.3 / 29 / Titans / 399 / UFA
Stacy McGee / 79.9 / 27 / Raiders / 221 / UFA
Dominique Easley / 79.1 / 25 / Rams / 470 / RFA
Lawrence Guy / 76.2 / 27 / Ravens / 487 / UFA
Stephen Paea / 75.7 / 29 / Browns / 319 / UFA
Mike Pennel / 73.2 / 26 / Packers / 103 / RFA
Cam Thomas / 70.4 / 30 / Rams / 391 / UFA

3-4 OLB:

Melvin Ingram / 88.1 / 28 / Chargers / 960 / UFA
Chandler Jones / 87.4 / 27 / Cardinals / 938 / UFA
Nick Perry / 83.5 / 27 / Packers / 603 / UFA
Jabaal Sheard / 79.1 / 28 / Patriots / 578 / UFA
John Simon / 78.3 / 26 / Texans / 516 / UFA
Jamie Collins / 77.8 / 27 / Browns / 980 / UFA
Jarvis Jones / 77.0 / 27 / Steelers / 476 / UFA
Alex Okafor / 72.5 / 26 / Cardinals / 231 / UFA
Datone Jones / 71.9 / 27 / Packers / 548 / UFA

Trent Cole / 52.0 / 34 / Colts / 237 / UFA (FYI)
Robert Mathis / 42.1 / 36 / Colts / 536 / UFA (FYI)
Erik Walden / 41.2 / 32 / Colts / 759 / UFA (FYI)

Man, PFF does not like Walden's play at all. Rack up 11.0 sacks, get rated as well below NFL average.

3-4 ILB or 4-3 MLB:

Dont'a Hightower / 85.1 / 27 / Patriots / 709 / UFA
Zach Brown / 84.1 / 27 / Bills / 978 / UFA
Gerald Hodges / 82.4 / 26 / 49ers / 584 / UFA
Korey Toomer / 81.2 / 28 / Chargers / 479 / RFA
Kevin Minter / 81.0 / 26 / Cardinals / 1001 / UFA
Sio Moore / 76.7 / 27 / Cardinals / 410 / UFA
Todd Davis / 76.0 / 25 / Broncos / 697 / RFA
Sean Spence / 74.0 / 28 / Titans / 504 / UFA
Bruce Carter / 73.8 / 29 / Jets / 122 / UFA
Kiko Alonso / 71.9 / 27 / Dolphins / 1049 / RFA
Josh Bynes / 71.7 / 28 / Lions / 374 / UFA
Paul Worrilow / 71.2 / 27 / Falcons / 163 / UFA
Michael Morgan / 70.4 / 29 / Seahawks / 141 / UFA

Josh McNary / 41.4 / 29 / Colts / 179 / RFA (FYI)

CB:

A.J. Bouye / 90.9 / 26 / Texans / 717 / UFA
Malcolm Butler / 90.8 / 27 / Patriots / 1007 / RFA
Morris Claiborne / 84.9 / 27 / Cowboys / 406 / UFA
Logan Ryan / 81.9 / 26 / Patriots / 896 / UFA
Trumaine Johnson / 81.0 / 27 / Rams / 954 / UFA
Ross Cockrell / 80.3 / 26 / Steelers / 1025 / RFA
Deshawn Shead / 79.0 / 29 / Seahawks / 919 / RFA
Prince Amukamara / 76.6 / 28 / Jaguars / 873 / UFA
Captain Munnerlyn / 75.5 / 29 / Vikings / 636 / UFA
Dre Kirkpatrick / 74.7 / 27 / Bengals / 978 / UFA
Micah Hyde / 73.3 / 26 / Packers / 817 / UFA
Stephon Gilmore / 73.2 / 26 / Bills / 982 / UFA
Sterling Moore / 72.3 / 27 / Saints / 805 / UFA
Jerraud Powers / 70.3 / 30 / Ravens / 510 / UFA
Marcus Williams / 70.1 / 26 / Jets / 455 / RFA

Darius Butler / 82.6 / 31 / Colts / 472 / UFA (FYI)

Safety:

Tony Jefferson / 88.6 / 25 / Cardinals / 930 / UFA
Eric Berry / 87.8 / 28 / Chiefs / 1085 / UFA
John Cyprien / 87.8 / 27 / Jaguars / 1071 / UFA
Barry Church / 86.2 / 29 / Cowboys / 674 / UFA
D.J. Swearinger / 86.1 / 25 / Cardinals / 838 / UFA
Jahleel Addae / 85.2 / 27 / Chargers / 510 / UFA
J.J. Wilcox / 81.6 / 28 / Cowboys / 553 / UFA
Bradley McDougald / 79.0 / 26 / Buccaneers / 1012 / UFA
Duron Harmon / 78.5 / 26 / Patriots / 508 / UFA
T.J. McDonald / 75.3 / 26 / Rams / 1072 / UFA
Steven Terrell / 75.1 / 26 / Seahawks / 384 / RFA
Daimion Stafford / 74.1 / 26 / Titans / 614 / UFA
Rafael Bush / 73.7 / 30 / Lions / 492 / UFA
Daniel Sorensen / 71.1 / 27 / Chiefs / 545 / RFA
Chris Prosinski / 70.9 / 30 / Bears / 174 / UFA
Jaylen Watkins / 70.9 / 24 / Eagles / 387 / RFA
Jordan Poyer / 70.4 / 26 / Browns / 355 / UFA

Mike C. Adams / 83.3 / 36 / Colts / 997 / UFA (FYI)

RB:

Le'Veon Bell / 86.6 / 25 / Steelers / 781 / UFA
Eddie Lacy / 77.3 / 26 / Packers / 166 / UFA
Jacquizz Rodgers / 77.2 / 27 / Buccaneers / 339 / UFA
Terrance West / 76.5 / 26 / Ravens / 441 / RFA
Mike Gillislee / 76.3 / 26 / Bills / 285 / RFA
Rex Burkhead / 74.5 / 27 / Bengals / 239 / UFA
Latavius Murray / 72.0 / 26 / Raiders / 525 / UFA
Isaiah Crowell / 70.8 / 24 / Browns / 568 / RFA
Damien Williams / 70.1 / 25 / Dolphins / 161 / RFA

Robert Turbin / 67.4 / 27 / Colts / 300 / UFA (FYI)
Jordan Todman / 58.8 / 27 / Colts / 64 / UFA (FYI)



Doyle has the 4th highest TE grade (76.0) behind Martelius Bennett (82.7; NE), Jacob Tamme (77.6; ATL) and Anthony Fasano (76.5; TEN). Jack is the only one in the top 8 graded TE free agents younger than 30 years old.

Jonotthan Harrison has a grade of 41.8 on 453 snaps. Hugh Thornton does not have a grade since he did not play any in 2016.

Cheers,

[natagu23]

In before Omaha starts bitching about pff.

1. Calais Campbell
2. Melvin Ingram
3. AJ Bouye

This team's off-season priority should focus around having a strong draft, and maybe bringing in a couple solid free agents.

One of the those solid free agent signings should preferably be a OLB or MLB.

[HoosierinFL]

Cardinals have a lot of defensive FAs, they can't possibly resign them all...

[DrSpaceman]

Wow the colts LBers suck

I mean we knew it, but this just shows how bad they are.

Surely they can find some free agent upgrades. Can't get much worse.

[Coltsalr]

In the world of possible free agents:

The South Florida Sun-Sentinel's Omar Kelly considers Aqib Talib among "big-money veterans" who could find themselves on the chopping block.

Kelly cites Talib's 2017 salary as a reason to justify his potential release.

"Talib is an instinctive playmaker who is still playing at the level of an elite cornerback (43 tackles, three interceptions and 12 pass breakups last season), but Denver must decide if his play is worth $11 million next season," he wrote.

http://den.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Aqib-Talib-could-be-on-chopping-block-51268423

I mean, I'd take him.

Yes, he comes with baggage. Yes, he'll want a pretty penny. Yes, he's getting long in the tooth. Yes, CB1 is arguably the one position that we arguably have set on this whole damn defense.

Yes, I'm aware of all that.

However, this team is in dire need of defensive playmakers. Period. And honestly, adding Talib to our secondary would probably do wonders in terms of being able to cover WR's in our secondary. Yes, I'd rather have a marquee pass rusher. Yes, I'd rather go with an ILB that can defend the run AND cover. Yes, I'd rather have an NT that's not David Parry that does his best isn't up to snuff.

But I'll take defensive playmakers WHEREVER we can get them on this D right now. This defensive roster is so woefully undertalented across the board that becoming proficient at literally any aspect of defense would be a boon for us right now.

[sherck]

In the world of possible free agents:



http://den.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Aqib-Talib-could-be-on-chopping-block-51268423

I mean, I'd take him.

Yes, he comes with baggage. Yes, he'll want a pretty penny. Yes, he's getting long in the tooth. Yes, CB1 is arguably the one position that we arguably have set on this whole damn defense.

Yes, I'm aware of all that.

However, this team is in dire need of defensive playmakers. Period. And honestly, adding Talib to our secondary would probably do wonders in terms of being able to cover WR's in our secondary. Yes, I'd rather have a marquee pass rusher. Yes, I'd rather go with an ILB that can defend the run AND cover. Yes, I'd rather have an NT that's not David Parry that does his best isn't up to snuff.

But I'll take defensive playmakers WHEREVER we can get them on this D right now. This defensive roster is so woefully undertalented across the board that becoming proficient at literally any aspect of defense would be a boon for us right now.
I agree.

It appears to me that the "deepest" areas of free agency are in both secondary positions (CB and Safety), ILB and 5-Tech DE. I think there is a better change of some true NFL starters making it to the open market at those positions.

There are only two 0-Tech NT that might be available but they are pretty easy to re-sign if their home team desires and I think the OLB class will be very thin and will be hotly chased after.

If we could come out of free agency with a new starter at ILB, D-Line (0 or 5 Tech) and a secondary slot (sliding either Robinson to CB3 or else Green to Safety3), then we could use the draft to concentrate on OLB (3 picks in top five picks) and then at least use 1 of the other 2 top picks on Def Front-7 or possible RB.

Getting a Comp 4th round pick for Fleener (not confirmed but the calculations say that is what should happen) will be pretty brilliant for Ballard in his first draft class as GM.

Cheers,

[Dam8610]

Poe, Short, Berry, Simon, Collins, Brown should all be players the Colts target. Good year for defensive FA.

[HoosierinFL]

I want Talib's talent but not his mental condition.

[Coltsalr]

I agree.

It appears to me that the "deepest" areas of free agency are in both secondary positions (CB and Safety), ILB and 5-Tech DE. I think there is a better change of some true NFL starters making it to the open market at those positions.

There are only two 0-Tech NT that might be available but they are pretty easy to re-sign if their home team desires and I think the OLB class will be very thin and will be hotly chased after.

If we could come out of free agency with a new starter at ILB, D-Line (0 or 5 Tech) and a secondary slot (sliding either Robinson to CB3 or else Green to Safety3), then we could use the draft to concentrate on OLB (3 picks in top five picks) and then at least use 1 of the other 2 top picks on Def Front-7 or possible RB.

Getting a Comp 4th round pick for Fleener (not confirmed but the calculations say that is what should happen) will be pretty brilliant for Ballard in his first draft class as GM.

Cheers,

I think the only position where I'd be furious if they spent major capital on would be WR/TE (okay, leaving aside K/P). We've invested plenty in those positions and gotten back okay returns. Still a failure on Grigson's part, but neither position is a trainwreck, very much unlike our other positions.

I'm already on record that if the Colts drafted Cam Robinson in Round 1, that I wouldn't lose my mind. I'd prefer to go defense certainly, but he'd instantly be an upgrade at RT, and we'd at that point have invested Dallas Cowboys-level amount in our OL, so I'd at least expect a fairly formidable wall.

If they went Dalvin Cook, I'll add with the qualifier, as long as they sign several guys in free agency, then fine. I don't think they will, Ballard seems like his focus will be upgrading the defense, but he is getting Mocked to us in seemingly every Mock Draft, so who knows. That said, I do absolutely believe that Dalvin Cook will be something truly special in the NFL and he'd REALLY open things up in our offense to do some truly incredible things. I do prefer defense, though.

What I WANT though is substantial investment in ILB/OLB. It looks like the guys will be there in the Draft and free agency. BUT like I said, if the Colts decide they think they can exploit a market inefficiency and become wonderful at any one position (besides WR/TE), then fine.

[YDFL Commish]

I would target Nick Perry to play SAM. I know he really didn't do much until his contract year, but he's still an upgrade over Walden.

I would also take a flyer on Jarvis Jones, under a moderate 2 yr. deal. Yeah he was a bust in Pitt., but if he could breakout like Jerry Hughes did, then we may have something.

I would also target A.J. Bouye and Tony Jefferson.

[GoBigBlue88]

I would target Nick Perry to play SAM. I know he really didn't do much until his contract year, but he's still an upgrade over Walden.

I would also take a flyer on Jarvis Jones, under a moderate 2 yr. deal. Yeah he was a bust in Pitt., but if he could breakout like Jerry Hughes did, then we may have something.

I would also target A.J. Bouye and Tony Jefferson.

Nick Perry is good and weirdly underused in GB. I know a lot of Packers fans don't understand it at all.

[FatDT]

Dom Capers is a hack. He's ruined BJ Raji's career and squashed the effectiveness out of Clay Matthews. I am wary of Nick Perry but Capers could easily be the problem there.

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[Coltsalr]

If you hate PFF grades, then feel free to move on.

If you are interested in the PFF assigned grades of impending NFL Free Agents at positions of need (and Colts free agents at those positions), then read on.

A grade of 60.0 is considered "NFL average."

I only listed players 30 years old or younger as of 01 Sep 2017. I cannot imagine that Ballard will be interested in signing older players with his talk of "getting younger."

Name / Grade / Age as of 01 Sep 2017 / Team / # Snaps / FA Status

0-Tech NT:

Brandon J. Williams / 75.9 / 28 / Ravens / 636 / UFA
Dontari Poe / 70.5 / 27 / Chiefs / 822 / UFA

Zach Kerr / 42.9 / 27 / Colts / 318 / RFA (FYI)

5-Tech 3-4 DE or 3-Tech 4-3 DT:

Calais Campbell / 90.4 / 30 / Cardinals / 831 / UFA
Kawann Short / 87.7 / 28 / Panthers / 779 / UFA
Chris I. Baker / 82.2 / 29 / Redskins / 782 / UFA
Abry Jones / 81.5 / 25 / Jaguars / 463 / UFA
Karl Klug / 81.3 / 29 / Titans / 399 / UFA
Stacy McGee / 79.9 / 27 / Raiders / 221 / UFA
Dominique Easley / 79.1 / 25 / Rams / 470 / RFA
Lawrence Guy / 76.2 / 27 / Ravens / 487 / UFA
Stephen Paea / 75.7 / 29 / Browns / 319 / UFA
Mike Pennel / 73.2 / 26 / Packers / 103 / RFA
Cam Thomas / 70.4 / 30 / Rams / 391 / UFA

3-4 OLB:

Melvin Ingram / 88.1 / 28 / Chargers / 960 / UFA
Chandler Jones / 87.4 / 27 / Cardinals / 938 / UFA
Nick Perry / 83.5 / 27 / Packers / 603 / UFA
Jabaal Sheard / 79.1 / 28 / Patriots / 578 / UFA
John Simon / 78.3 / 26 / Texans / 516 / UFA
Jamie Collins / 77.8 / 27 / Browns / 980 / UFA
Jarvis Jones / 77.0 / 27 / Steelers / 476 / UFA
Alex Okafor / 72.5 / 26 / Cardinals / 231 / UFA
Datone Jones / 71.9 / 27 / Packers / 548 / UFA

Trent Cole / 52.0 / 34 / Colts / 237 / UFA (FYI)
Robert Mathis / 42.1 / 36 / Colts / 536 / UFA (FYI)
Erik Walden / 41.2 / 32 / Colts / 759 / UFA (FYI)

Man, PFF does not like Walden's play at all. Rack up 11.0 sacks, get rated as well below NFL average.

3-4 ILB or 4-3 MLB:

Dont'a Hightower / 85.1 / 27 / Patriots / 709 / UFA
Zach Brown / 84.1 / 27 / Bills / 978 / UFA
Gerald Hodges / 82.4 / 26 / 49ers / 584 / UFA
Korey Toomer / 81.2 / 28 / Chargers / 479 / RFA
Kevin Minter / 81.0 / 26 / Cardinals / 1001 / UFA
Sio Moore / 76.7 / 27 / Cardinals / 410 / UFA
Todd Davis / 76.0 / 25 / Broncos / 697 / RFA
Sean Spence / 74.0 / 28 / Titans / 504 / UFA
Bruce Carter / 73.8 / 29 / Jets / 122 / UFA
Kiko Alonso / 71.9 / 27 / Dolphins / 1049 / RFA
Josh Bynes / 71.7 / 28 / Lions / 374 / UFA
Paul Worrilow / 71.2 / 27 / Falcons / 163 / UFA
Michael Morgan / 70.4 / 29 / Seahawks / 141 / UFA

Josh McNary / 41.4 / 29 / Colts / 179 / RFA (FYI)

CB:

A.J. Bouye / 90.9 / 26 / Texans / 717 / UFA
Malcolm Butler / 90.8 / 27 / Patriots / 1007 / RFA
Morris Claiborne / 84.9 / 27 / Cowboys / 406 / UFA
Logan Ryan / 81.9 / 26 / Patriots / 896 / UFA
Trumaine Johnson / 81.0 / 27 / Rams / 954 / UFA
Ross Cockrell / 80.3 / 26 / Steelers / 1025 / RFA
Deshawn Shead / 79.0 / 29 / Seahawks / 919 / RFA
Prince Amukamara / 76.6 / 28 / Jaguars / 873 / UFA
Captain Munnerlyn / 75.5 / 29 / Vikings / 636 / UFA
Dre Kirkpatrick / 74.7 / 27 / Bengals / 978 / UFA
Micah Hyde / 73.3 / 26 / Packers / 817 / UFA
Stephon Gilmore / 73.2 / 26 / Bills / 982 / UFA
Sterling Moore / 72.3 / 27 / Saints / 805 / UFA
Jerraud Powers / 70.3 / 30 / Ravens / 510 / UFA
Marcus Williams / 70.1 / 26 / Jets / 455 / RFA

Darius Butler / 82.6 / 31 / Colts / 472 / UFA (FYI)

Safety:

Tony Jefferson / 88.6 / 25 / Cardinals / 930 / UFA
Eric Berry / 87.8 / 28 / Chiefs / 1085 / UFA
John Cyprien / 87.8 / 27 / Jaguars / 1071 / UFA
Barry Church / 86.2 / 29 / Cowboys / 674 / UFA
D.J. Swearinger / 86.1 / 25 / Cardinals / 838 / UFA
Jahleel Addae / 85.2 / 27 / Chargers / 510 / UFA
J.J. Wilcox / 81.6 / 28 / Cowboys / 553 / UFA
Bradley McDougald / 79.0 / 26 / Buccaneers / 1012 / UFA
Duron Harmon / 78.5 / 26 / Patriots / 508 / UFA
T.J. McDonald / 75.3 / 26 / Rams / 1072 / UFA
Steven Terrell / 75.1 / 26 / Seahawks / 384 / RFA
Daimion Stafford / 74.1 / 26 / Titans / 614 / UFA
Rafael Bush / 73.7 / 30 / Lions / 492 / UFA
Daniel Sorensen / 71.1 / 27 / Chiefs / 545 / RFA
Chris Prosinski / 70.9 / 30 / Bears / 174 / UFA
Jaylen Watkins / 70.9 / 24 / Eagles / 387 / RFA
Jordan Poyer / 70.4 / 26 / Browns / 355 / UFA

Mike C. Adams / 83.3 / 36 / Colts / 997 / UFA (FYI)

RB:

Le'Veon Bell / 86.6 / 25 / Steelers / 781 / UFA
Eddie Lacy / 77.3 / 26 / Packers / 166 / UFA
Jacquizz Rodgers / 77.2 / 27 / Buccaneers / 339 / UFA
Terrance West / 76.5 / 26 / Ravens / 441 / RFA
Mike Gillislee / 76.3 / 26 / Bills / 285 / RFA
Rex Burkhead / 74.5 / 27 / Bengals / 239 / UFA
Latavius Murray / 72.0 / 26 / Raiders / 525 / UFA
Isaiah Crowell / 70.8 / 24 / Browns / 568 / RFA
Damien Williams / 70.1 / 25 / Dolphins / 161 / RFA

Robert Turbin / 67.4 / 27 / Colts / 300 / UFA (FYI)
Jordan Todman / 58.8 / 27 / Colts / 64 / UFA (FYI)



Doyle has the 4th highest TE grade (76.0) behind Martelius Bennett (82.7; NE), Jacob Tamme (77.6; ATL) and Anthony Fasano (76.5; TEN). Jack is the only one in the top 8 graded TE free agents younger than 30 years old.

Jonotthan Harrison has a grade of 41.8 on 453 snaps. Hugh Thornton does not have a grade since he did not play any in 2016.

Cheers,

Also, anything on the OL?

I'd happily take Ronald Leary and let our remaining guys battle it out for the other right side of the OL spot.

[natagu23]

Also, anything on the OL?

I'd happily take Ronald Leary and let our remaining guys battle it out for the other right side of the OL spot.

Why'd you have to quote the whole post?

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[HoosierinFL]

Apparently we are checking out both Ingram and Perry. Couple other guys too
https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/832379569411878912

[Coltsalr]

Apparently we are checking out both Ingram and Perry. Couple other guys too
https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/832379569411878912

Interesting to note on the couple other guys, Ricky Wagner and Jahleel Addae, here's what their local bloggers have to say about them, very different opinions:

Baltimore Ravens franchise player Joe Flacco does many parts of his job description as a quarterback well. Making plays when pressured in the pocket is not one of them.

Throughout his career, most notably during the Ravens championship run in 2012, Flacco played at an elite level when given ample time in the pocket. In the 2012 playoffs, Joe was sacked six times over four games, and responded by tossing eleven touchdowns compared to zero interceptions.

This trend held true in 2014, when Flacco posted the best statistical season of his career, and was sacked only 19 times in sixteen regular season games. For comparison, the Ravens allowed 37 sacks per season on average in Flacco’s six seasons before 2014. In Week 13 of the 2016 season, the Ravens held Miami without a sack, and Flacco produced his best game of the year with 381 yards and four touchdowns.

Flacco has developed a reputation as one of the worst quarterbacks in the league when pressured. Furthermore, his accuracy is not consistent enough to win many games when he is forced to throw 50 plus passing attempts. He does much better, especially on deep throws, when a competent running game can provide balance to the offense and make the defense respect play action fakes.

For these reasons, resigning right tackle Ricky Wagner should be the Ravens top priority in the coming offseason.

Wagner is a notch below the best right tackles in the league, but he is definitely above average at the position. According to Ken McKusick of Russell Street Report, Wagner has earned a B grade or above in ten of the 13 games he evaluated this season. Wagner has proven himself to be durable as well, only missing one game to injury in 2016, and two total regular season games over the last three seasons combined.

Equally adept at run and pass blocking, Wagner would create a formidable bookend offensive tackle pairing with Ronnie Stanley if the Ravens are able to resign him. With Wagner in the fold along with Stanley, who displayed his elite blocking ability over the final quarter of his rookie season, the Ravens would have the makings of a strong offensive line. Marshal Yanda and Alex Lewis could thrive as the starting offensive guards, leaving only center as a position in need of an upgrade.

Without resigning Wagner, the Ravens will have two positional needs on the offensive line. They would be forced to spend more free agency and draft resources on the line, instead of having more flexibility to bolster their pass defense personnel. With Wagner, they are only one piece away from creating a top offensive line, and the center position could be adequately upgraded on Day 2 of the 2017 NFL draft.

What will it cost to resign Wagner?

It is difficult to pinpoint Wagner’s contract demands right now. There are not very many above average offensive lineman up for free agency this year, and many teams will have more cap space than they know what to do with. This situation could cause Wagner to be overpaid based on simple supply and demand.

Last offseason, the Chiefs signed Mitchell Schwartz away from the Browns. Schwartz is a comparable right tackle to Wagner, he may even be a slightly better player. The terms of his contract were $33 million over five years, with $15 million guaranteed. Wagner would be well worth $6.5 million per season to the Ravens, since offensive line play is so vital to their offensive success.

Conclusion

Brandon Williams is a higher profile free agent and arguably better player than Wagner. But the Ravens have some intriguing depth and early draft picks waiting in the wings at defensive tackle. Offensive tackle, on the other hand, has been a problem spot for the franchise going all the way back to their first Super Bowl championship at the turn of the century.

At 27 years old, Wagner should have several seasons left before his body shows signs of decline. Locking up two young tackles long term, along with the guards, would allow the offensive line to grow together and help the offense realize their full potential.

By prioritizing Wagner and consummating a long term contract, the Ravens can devote their remaining assets to other pressing needs, and have a much better chance at earning a playoff berth in 2017. Without Wagner, they will likely be treading water next season, filling one roster hole while ignoring or creating another.

After all of the investment made in Joe Flacco, it would be immensely short sighted to allow Ricky Wagner to leave the Ravens this offseason.

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2016/12/29/14100832/baltimore-ravens-offseason-priority-1-rt-ricky-wagner


It would be one thing if Jahleel Addae was a reasonably physical safety with a penchant for hard, legal hits more akin to Kam Chancellor. It would be another if Addae could stay healthy despite his shortcomings. It would be another thing if Addae possessed the kind of closing down speed that would make up for his other weaknesses.

Oh yeah, his speed.

Not great. Not godawful, but not great.

Jahleel Addae is a perfectly cromulent football player except one or two significant reoccurring flaws and a tendency to get hurt. He might revel in the questionable reputation he has earned, but by and large he has cultivated an acceptable image (one which the team presents). He is not Manti Te’o.

However, the drawbacks to keeping Addae are evident. Those mistakes, those tendencies, continue to repeat themselves year after year. The fact that the team is married to Dwight Lowery’s contract for at least another season makes the prospect of fielding an exceedingly below-average backfield pair nigh unacceptable.

Plus, there’s the opportunity cost of being unable to add a new piece to our defense at the safety position to possibly put it over the top (and give Gus Bradley no excuses). It’s clear what the team is getting with Addae, what his ceiling is and how his desperate versatility masks a lack of expertise in any particularly important tenant of being a starting safety in the NFL.

Finally, with Melvin Ingram’s impending free agency and a whole host of other positions and players in dire need of upgrade that could/would impact the team’s ability to function at a high level, I’d argue that retaining a talent like Addae’s isn’t necessarily a high priority.

Thus, the tragedy of Jahleel Addae: All the heart in the world, but clearly a dude who cannot be relied upon to play defensive football effectively at a consistently high enough (healthy) level above replacement to warrant a new contract.

http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2017/2/16/14600832/los-angeles-chargers-should-not-re-sign-jahleel-addae

I'm fully sold on Ricky Wagner now. Sign him up and hand him the starting RT job. Done like dinner.

Jahleel Addae, I'm fully sold would be an improvement over the status quo. Sorry, but he would be. Low hurdle to clear, but he clears it. Is he worth the money? Meh, but if we're signing big money pass rushers like Parry and/or Ingram, then we might need to overpay some to make sure our investment doesn't go entirely for naught.

[sherck]

Also, anything on the OL?

I included guys here older than 30 (but not 35) because O-Linemen can often be effective past 30 whereas many defensive players start losing a step after 30.

OT:

Ricky Wagner / 84.5 / 27 / Ravens / 926 / UFA
Ty Nsekhe / 75.4 / 31 / Redskins / 386 / RFA (31 year old RFA ?!?)
Christopher Hubbard / 72.8 / 26 / Steelers / 326 / RFA
Cameron Fleming / 71.9 / 24 / Patriots / 284 / RFA
Menelik Watson / 70.0 / 28 / Raiders / 255 / UFA


Wagner = 47 games started
Watson = 17 games started
Fleming = 14 games started
Nsekhe = 6 games started
Hubbard = 4 games started

Really only one clear cut option in Wagner with, perhaps, some interest in Watson but, honestly, I would rather roll with Clark or Haeg. Although Watson is a former 2nd round draft pick (#42 overall in 2013) he missed all of 2015 due to injury and Haeg has nearly as many games starting in one season in the NFL as Watson has during 3 seasons.

OG:

Kevin Zeitler / 87.1 / 27 / Bengals / 1087 / UFA
T.J. Lang / 85.7 / 29 / Packers / 791 / UFA
Andrew Norwell / 85.7 / 25 / Panthers / 1108 / RFA
Larry Warford / 82.0 / 26 / Lions / 974 / UFA
Ronald Leary / 81.8 / 28 / Cowboys / 803 / UFA
John Jerry / 78.2 / 31 / Giants / 1060 / UFA
Austin Pasztor / 77.3 / 26 / Browns / 1020 / UFA
Patrick Omameh / 77.1 / 27 / Jaguars / 454 / UFA
Jahri Evans / 76.8 / 34 / Saints / 1137 / UFA
Stefen Wisniewski / 75.2 / 28 / Eagles / 606 / UFA
Evan Mathis 74.9 G 35 Cardinals 199 UFA
Ryan Jensen / 73.1 / 26 / Ravens / 273 / RFA
Ted Larsen / 72.3 / 30 / Bears / 581 / UFA
Oday Aboushi / 71.9 / 26 / Texans / 267 / UFA
Tim Lelito / 70.5 / 28 / Saints / 405 / UFA

For as thin as the OT free agency class is, the OG class is pretty stacked. 8 full times starters (around 800+ snaps in a season) plus a lot of guys who were, perhaps, not full time starters but played a good number of snaps and performed well.

If we bring in an O-Line body, it needs to be at the top of our talent depth chart and not just another body because we have a good pick of good guys....not great guys.

If we go O-Line in free agency, I would bet it would be for right OG and then letting Reitz, Clark, Good and Haeg battle it out for starting RT duties with the other three being the primary backups along with Blythe.

Cheers,

[omahacolt]

i agree with shrek. if we go oline in free agency then i say we go guard. clark, haeg and good can all play rt. one of them has to be good enough right?

also i could see us letting mewhort walk so a proven right guard would be ideal

[apballin]

I'd love to grab 2 aggressive hammers like Ingram and Swearinger

[ukcolt]

Larry Warford is the guy I would most like the Colts to grab in terms of improving the offensive line. He is young at 26 but has 4 years of starting experience having started every game he has played in missing 7 games in 4 years. He is a good run blocker and lining him up next to Ryan Kelly and Mewhort could make for some big holes up the middle.

Obviously we need to bring in at least two LB's via free agency and another two via the draft, and this has to be the priority, but I can see that Warford is a potential big time player who could make a big difference for the Colts. I am less convinced with the LBers available in free agency this year and think we are only going to get marginal upgrades rather than star performers in free agency.

[ukcolt]

We do have 50 plus million that we can spend.....so an OLman for $10m a year, Eric Berry for $13m a year surpassing the contract signed by the honey badger, and two mid level LBers paired with our two top draft picks both at LBer, possibly another big name signing like Trumain Johnson from the Rams at CB and maybe we bring in someone like Darren McFadden at RB to help out is something that financially speaking we ought to be able to do.

A defensive lineup of
Henry Anderson (hopefully back to his rookie best)
David Parry / Hassan Ridgeway
Kendall Langford
Rookie 1st rounder
Free agent pickup / Edwin Jackson
Rookie 2nd rounder / Antonio Morrison
Free agent pickup
Vontae Davis
Eric Berry
Clacton Geathers / Donald Butler
Trumaine Johnson / Patrick Robinson

Suddenly we go from having very few recognisable names to having backups who are very serviceable. We would still be light in the LB department, but could use mid to late round picks to help out there.

[natagu23]

Larry Warford is the guy I would most like the Colts to grab in terms of improving the offensive line. He is young at 26 but has 4 years of starting experience having started every game he has played in missing 7 games in 4 years. He is a good run blocker and lining him up next to Ryan Kelly and Mewhort could make for some big holes up the middle.

Obviously we need to bring in at least two LB's via free agency and another two via the draft, and this has to be the priority, but I can see that Warford is a potential big time player who could make a big difference for the Colts. I am less convinced with the LBers available in free agency this year and think we are only going to get marginal upgrades rather than star performers in free agency.

I like it.

Im all for having more black guys on the oline.