2022 off-season free agency and draft

[Racehorse]

Here is a list of current players signed and their positions, plus cap number:

Offense 26;
G Quenton Nelson $13,754,000
OL Ryan Kelly $9,750,000
OL Danny Pinter $982,174
OL Will Fries $846,344
OL Carter O'Donnell $705,000
OT Braden Smith $11,567,000
OT Shon Coleman $895,000
QB Carson Wentz $28,294,119
QB Sam Ehlinger $857,676
QB James Morgan $825,000
RB Nyheim Hines $5,140,000
RB Jonathan Taylor $2,135,224
RB Deon Jackson $825,000
TE Jack Doyle $6,200,000
TE Kylen Granson $1,001,591
TE Michael Jacobson $705,000
TE Farrod Green $705,000
TE Eli Wolf $705,000
WR T.Y. Hilton $2,300,000
WR Michael Pittman, Jr. $2,348,957
WR Parris Campbell $1,519,616
WR Mike Strachan $853,708
WR Dezmon Patmon $927,353
WR Jordan Murray $705,000
WR Keke Coutee $965,000
WR De'Michael Harris $825,000

Defense 19:
CB Kenny Moore $6,750,000
CB Rock Ya-Sin $3,377,355
CB Isaiah Rodgers $931,281
CB Anthony Chesley $895,000
CB Chris Wilcox $705,000
CB Alexander Myres $705,000
DB E.J. Speed $1,037,349
DL DeForest Buckner $16,000,000
DL Grover Stewart $10,625,000
DL Kwity Paye $3,101,099
DL Ben Banogu $1,891,434
DL Dayo Odeyingbo $1,403,984
DL Chris Williams $825,000
LB Darius Leonard $10,916,000
LB Bobby Okereke $2,653,779
LB Jordan Glasgow $927,353
S Julian Blackmon $1,241,609
S Khari Willis $2,625,009
S Will Redmond $895,000

Special Teams 3:
K Rodrigo Blankenship $901,668
LS Luke Rhodes $1,035,000
P Rigoberto Sanchez $2,345,000

As you can see, there are just 48 players under contract, and some of them are just bodies. Here is the list of our free agents:

Eric Fisher LT
T.Y. Hilton WR
Mark Glowinski RG
Xavier Rhodes CB
Zach Pascal WR
Mo Alie-Cox TE
AQ Muhammad EDGE
Sam Tevi LT
Isaac Rochell IDL
George Odum S
T.J. Carrie CB
Marlon Mack RB
Kemoko Turay EDGE
Julie'n Davenport LT
Chris Reed LG
Tyquan Lewis EDGE
Andrew Sendejo S
Jahleel Addae S
Taylor StallworthIDL
Michael Badgley K
Antwaun Woods IDL
Ashton Dulin WR
Nick Nelson CB
Robert Windsor IDL
Quartney Davis WR
Matt Pryor RG
Matthew Adams LB
Zaire Franklin LB
Skai Moore LB
Ibraheim Campbell

Which do you feel are must signs, possible signs and definite moving ons?
Remember, you need to fill out the roster in all areas. it is not as simple as just saying a guy is trash or whatever, because we need a full competent roster.

[Racehorse]

Sorry if the formatting is not easy. I was trying to finish this quickly, because I am running short on time right now. I will put in my thoughts later.

[CletusPyle]

Sorry if the formatting is not easy. I was trying to finish this quickly, because I am running short on time right now. I will put in my thoughts later.

Thank you Racehorse for putting this together....this helps a lot!

[JAFF]

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/indianapolis-colts/

[Racehorse]

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/indianapolis-colts/

That was my source, but it isn't easy to have a discussion about this without the information right here. I tried to post all of the relevant stuff in the OP for easy reference.

[Racehorse]

Top QB free agents:
1.*Tyrod Taylor, Houston Texans
2.*Teddy Bridgewater, Denver Broncos
3.*Jameis Winston, New Orleans Saints
4.*Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers
5.*Ryan Fitzpatrick, Washington Football Team
6.*Marcus Mariota, Las Vegas Raiders
7.*Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers
8.*Jacoby Brissett, Miami Dolphins
9.*Andy Dalton, Chicago Bears

Top WRs:
1.*Davante Adams, Green Bay Packers
2.*Allen Robinson, Chicago Bears
3.*Chris Godwin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4.*Mike Williams, Los Angeles Chargers
5.*Antonio Brown, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
6.*Will Fuller, Miami Dolphins
7.*Michael Gallup, Dallas Cowboys
8.*DJ Chark Jr., Jacksonville Jaguars
9.*Emmanuel Sanders, Buffalo Bills

Top TEs:
1.*Zach Ertz, Arizona Cardinals
2.*Dalton Schultz, Dallas Cowboys
3.*Mike Gesicki, Miami Dolphins
4.*Jared Cook, Los Angeles Chargers
5.*Rob Gronkowski, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
6.*Evan Engram, New York Giants
7.*David Njoku, Cleveland Browns
8.*C.J. Uzomah, Cincinnati Bengals
9.*Maxx Williams, Arizona Cardinals

Top OLine:
1.*Orlando Brown Jr., T, Kansas City Chiefs
2.*Brandon Scherff, G, Washington Football Team
3.*Terron Armstead, T, New Orleans Saints
4.*Duane Brown, T, Seattle Seahawks
5.*Riley Reiff, T, Cincinnati Bengals
6.*Laken Tomlinson, G, San Francisco 49ers
7.*Ben Jones, C, Tennessee Titans
8.*Jason Peters, T, Chicago Bears
9.*Cam Robinson, T, Jacksonville Jaguars
10.*Trent Brown, T, New England Patriots

Edited: I omitted RBs, as I don't see a need there. Oddly enough, Marlon Mack was not listed. He will come cheap to some team in need.

[Colts And Orioles]

That was my source, but it isn't easy to have a discussion about this without the information right here. I tried to post all of the relevant stuff in the OP for easy reference.




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C&O's neurotic posting habits may be rubbing off on you a little bit.

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[Racehorse]

Top Interior Dline:
1.*Sebastian Joseph-Day, Los Angeles Rams
2.*Calais Campbell, Baltimore Ravens
3.*Austin Johnson, New York Giants
4.*Akiem Hicks, Chicago Bears
5.*Quinton Jefferson, Las Vegas Raiders
6.*Solomon Thomas, Las Vegas Raiders
7.*Linval Joseph, Los Angeles Chargers
8.*Sheldon Richardson, Cleveland Browns
9.*Jarran Reed, Kansas City Chiefs
10.*Malik Jackson, Cleveland Browns

Top Edge:
1.*Haason Reddick, Carolina Panthers
2.*Harold Landry, Tennessee Titans
3.*Randy Gregory, Dallas Cowboys
4.*Von Miller, Los Angeles Rams
5.*Jadeveon Clowney, Cleveland Browns
6.*Emmanuel Ogbah, Miami Dolphins
7.*Chandler Jones, Arizona Cardinals
8.*Derek Barnett, Philadelphia Eagles
9.*Charles Harris, Detroit Lions
10.*Dante Fowler Jr., Atlanta Falcons

Top LBs:
1.*Christian Kirksey, Houston Texans
2.*Kenny Young, Denver Broncos
3.*Ja’Whaun Bentley, New England Patriots
4.*Anthony Walker Jr., Cleveland Browns
5.*Reggie Ragland, New York Giants
6.*Dont’a Hightower, New England Patriots
7.*Jermaine Carter, Carolina Panthers
8.*Alec Ogletree, Chicago Bears
9.*Jayon Brown, Tennessee Titans
10.*Jon Bostic, Washington Football Team

Top DBs:
1.*Stephon Gilmore, CB, Carolina Panthers
2.*J.C. Jackson, CB, New England Patriots
3.*Darious Williams, CB, Los Angeles Rams
4.*Jessie Bates III, S, Cincinnati Bengals
5.*Tyrann Mathieu, S, Kansas City Chiefs
6.*Donte Jackson, CB, Carolina Panthers
7.*Levi Wallace, CB, Buffalo Bills
8.*Marcus Maye, S, New York Jets
9.*Casey Hayward, CB, Las Vegas Raiders
10.*Marcus Williams, S, New Orleans Saints

[Racehorse]

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C&O's neurotic posting habits may be rubbing off on you a little bit.

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Well, Sherck left, so I have to do my own work these days. :D Figured I would share.

[JAFF]

That was my source, but it isn't easy to have a discussion about this without the information right here. I tried to post all of the relevant stuff in the OP for easy reference.

It looked like it, just giving a source, so people know its accurate

[Racehorse]

It looked like it, just giving a source, so people know its accurate
Someone shared that site on here a few years ago. It has become an invaluable source for me when discussing this stuff with ignorant people on Facebook.

[Racehorse]

Here are my thoughts on these free agents:
Eric Fisher LT I think he is serviceable, but never looked as good as before. If cheap, maybe sign, but there are a lot of OTs in free agency. It boils down to which ones actually hit free agency and are not tagged.
T.Y. Hilton WR I think he retires, but if he wants another year on a reasonable contract, I would pull the trigger. He was still getting open, but wentz couldn't hit him.
Mark Glowinski RG I think he will be let test the waters. I am okay with this.
Xavier Rhodes CB Might be time to move on. Injuries riddled him this year
Zach Pascal WR One of "our guys", but surely we will find a better replacement, right?
Mo Alie-Cox TE This comes down to two things; Does Dotle retire, and can we lure Ertz.
AQ Muhammad EDGE Dude has earned a new contract.
Sam Tevi LT Bye, Felicia
Isaac Rochell IDL Only if very cheap. Decent rotational piece, but not starter quality
George Odum S Sign him back already. Dude is a baller.
T.J. Carrie CB I am on the fence with him. I could take him or not.
Marlon Mack RB Let him get a contract elsewhere. He won't get snaps here, anyway
Kemoko Turay EDGE Should come fairly cheap, so why not. He can play, and should be totally healthy next year
Julie'n Davenport LT See Tevi above
Chris Reed LG Keep him here. Good team player, and can step in when needed. Those guys are hard to find
Tyquan Lewis EDGE Depends on his medical report. He was coming into his own before the injury
Andrew Sendejo S We looked different without him, so maybe sign him back
Jahleel Addae S Meh
Taylor StallworthIDL I would like to see him stay, if he is reasonable
Michael Badgley K Specs can do what he did, and is already on contract
Antwaun Woods IDL Maybe, maybe not
Ashton Dulin WR He is a ST demon, and showed flashes at WR. Bring him back
Nick Nelson CB Who?
Robert Windsor IDL Not interested
Quartney Davis WR Who?
Matt Pryor RG Like Reed, we need backups who can step in. He needs a contract
Matthew Adams LB Meh
Zaire Franklin LB yes, a new contract is in order
Skai Moore LB Meh
Ibraheim Campbell Pass

This would be approximately 12 guys returning. Add this to the 48 under contract, and we have a decent core. Free agents from other teams next

[Hoopsdoc]

The colts aren’t going anywhere without a quarterback. They’re in a conference with Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Herbert, and Jackson. It’s just not feasible.

Every player on the roster should be looked at as a potential chip to be used in acquiring a good quarterback. Nothing else matters.

[apballin]

Resign glowinski, Reed, Turay

Let the rest of them see what they can get but I wouldn’t pay any of them

Something tells me Muhammad gets paid somewhere else or wants more than Ballard is willing to give for him

Lewis injury= can’t pay him

Odum thinks he’s better than what he is let him go we can get a safety anywhere, the Rams just signed a 40 year old off the couch. Hell sendajo was decent and he’s 40 don’t pay any safety

Go get Aaron Rodgers

[Butter]

Go get Aaron Rodgers

Lol, it is just that easy with the few chips the Colts have to put on the table. Besides fuck adding another anti-vax shithead to this team, we have enough.

[ChaosTheory]

Way too early, but interesting... Rodgers talked about future plans on McAfee's show. Seemed like he might try to make a decision before Free Agency starts which is March 16.

He mentioned potential options and said free agency wasn't an option. At first I took that as: he'll either decide to retire or come back to the Packers not another team.

In hindsight... actually I think he's simply saying he's not going to be a free agent, not that he wouldn't consider a trade. By the end McAfee half-joked about him coming to IND. And Green Bay is pushing $41m over the cap, so guys are going to get dumped (Colts are $41m under).

[apballin]

Way too early, but interesting... Rodgers talked about future plans on McAfee's show. Seemed like he might try to make a decision before Free Agency starts which is March 16.

He mentioned potential options and said free agency wasn't an option. At first I took that as: he'll either decide to retire or come back to the Packers not another team.

In hindsight... actually I think he's simply saying he's not going to be a free agent, not that he wouldn't consider a trade. By the end McAfee half-joked about him coming to IND. And Green Bay is pushing $41m over the cap, so guys are going to get dumped (Colts are $41m under).

And Rodgers said “yea I’ll come to Indy…….. and make my announcement “

[Racehorse]

Hints are that Brady retires. If so, that makes the QB market favor the QBs and not the teams in need. If Rodgers goes to Denver, that leaves Jordan Love in G. Does that mean GB has their QB, or are they also looking? What if Rodgers retires? Then we have Russell Wilson and Deshaun Watson. Do they get traded? If Watson ends up in Miami, do we have a shot at Tua? Do we want Tua?

Then we have these free agents:
Jameis Winston - 28 years old.
Cam Newton - 32 years old. ...
Ryan Fitzpatrick - 39 years old. ...
Teddy Bridgewater - 29 years old. ...
Geno Smith - 31 years old. ...
Tyrod Taylor - 32 years old. ...
Marcus Mariota - 28 years old. ...
Sean Mannion - 29 years old. ...


Winston and Bridgewater have been mentioned on this board as possibilities, but I am not sure either could take us to the SB. It would be really cool if we signed Fitzmagic, and the dude finally made it to the big game and won. However, that is just a band-aid, at 39 years of age.
Lots of QB questions. Should prove to be an interesting off-season.

[IndyNorm]

Here are my thoughts on these free agents:
Eric Fisher LT I think he is serviceable, but never looked as good as before. If cheap, maybe sign, but there are a lot of OTs in free agency. It boils down to which ones actually hit free agency and are not tagged.
T.Y. Hilton WR I think he retires, but if he wants another year on a reasonable contract, I would pull the trigger. He was still getting open, but wentz couldn't hit him.
Mark Glowinski RG I think he will be let test the waters. I am okay with this.
Xavier Rhodes CB Might be time to move on. Injuries riddled him this year
Zach Pascal WR One of "our guys", but surely we will find a better replacement, right?
Mo Alie-Cox TE This comes down to two things; Does Dotle retire, and can we lure Ertz.
AQ Muhammad EDGE Dude has earned a new contract.
Sam Tevi LT Bye, Felicia
Isaac Rochell IDL Only if very cheap. Decent rotational piece, but not starter quality
George Odum S Sign him back already. Dude is a baller.
T.J. Carrie CB I am on the fence with him. I could take him or not.
Marlon Mack RB Let him get a contract elsewhere. He won't get snaps here, anyway
Kemoko Turay EDGE Should come fairly cheap, so why not. He can play, and should be totally healthy next year
Julie'n Davenport LT See Tevi above
Chris Reed LG Keep him here. Good team player, and can step in when needed. Those guys are hard to find
Tyquan Lewis EDGE Depends on his medical report. He was coming into his own before the injury
Andrew Sendejo S We looked different without him, so maybe sign him back
Jahleel Addae S Meh
Taylor StallworthIDL I would like to see him stay, if he is reasonable
Michael Badgley K Specs can do what he did, and is already on contract
Antwaun Woods IDL Maybe, maybe not
Ashton Dulin WR He is a ST demon, and showed flashes at WR. Bring him back
Nick Nelson CB Who?
Robert Windsor IDL Not interested
Quartney Davis WR Who?
Matt Pryor RG Like Reed, we need backups who can step in. He needs a contract
Matthew Adams LB Meh
Zaire Franklin LB yes, a new contract is in order
Skai Moore LB Meh
Ibraheim Campbell Pass

This would be approximately 12 guys returning. Add this to the 48 under contract, and we have a decent core. Free agents from other teams next

I mostly agree with what you're saying. We should definitely keep Hilton (if he doesn't retire), Muhammed, Odum, Reed, Stallworth, Dulin, Pryor, and Franklin assuming the money is right on all of them.

It'd be good to keep Turay, Carrie, MAC (if Doyle retires), Sandejo and Pascal (as a number 3/4 WR with an upgrade to at least a better WR2) as well if again the money is right.

Out of principle we should cut Banogu's worthless ass. It will save us $1.3M against the cap and it's absolutely ricockulous that he'll make ~$6M for doing nothing but sit on his ass as a healthy scratch for 4 years.

[IndyNorm]

Way too early, but interesting... Rodgers talked about future plans on McAfee's show. Seemed like he might try to make a decision before Free Agency starts which is March 16.

He mentioned potential options and said free agency wasn't an option. At first I took that as: he'll either decide to retire or come back to the Packers not another team.

In hindsight... actually I think he's simply saying he's not going to be a free agent, not that he wouldn't consider a trade. By the end McAfee half-joked about him coming to IND. And Green Bay is pushing $41m over the cap, so guys are going to get dumped (Colts are $41m under).

The folks at ESPN went on and on earlier in the week on how the contract restructure Rodgers forced on GB during training camp gives him all kinds of flexibility to leave in the offseason. But looking at the numbers I just don't see it. He'll be ~$27M in dead cap space if they release/trade him prior to June 1st. Of course GB is $50M over the projected cap, so they're going to have to do something.

[Dam8610]

To me, Rodgers is the only option that will not see Wentz starting for the Colts in 2022, and that's only if his age is a large factor in the negotiation (meaning the price is low). Watson will cost your franchise for the next 3-5 years (especially for the Colts) and he might be suspended for an extended period. Wilson will also cost your franchise for the next 3-5 years and is coming off a very uncharacteristic season at age 32, making him very high risk. That leaves free agents, and while I'd be willing to give Winston a chance, the Colts had that option and opted instead for 39 year old arm falling off Philip Rivers, which says to me that they didn't see him as a starter at that time. The question is given his body of work since, has that opinion changed, and is he enough of an improvement over Wentz to yet again invest over $50 million of the cap into the QB position to hopefully find a somewhat long term solution at the position?

[IndyNorm]

Dam - Are there any Davis Mills types in this upcoming draft that we could target in the mid rounds?

[Dam8610]

Dam - Are there any Davis Mills types in this upcoming draft that we could target in the mid rounds?

I haven't had much of a chance to look into the 2022 class yet and I don't know if I will be able to. Mills was an interesting case though, highly talented kid who showed promise on the field but had a bad injury history.

[bigalbert]

Houston has been an organization that seems to make stupid moves to help them dwell in the cellar. They might be dumb enough to trade Watson to a division foe. I want him above anyone else personally. He’s the only guy out there that gives us a chance In The AFC besides Rodgers. Something tells me no way Aaron wants to be in the AFC


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[Racehorse]

Houston has been an organization that seems to make stupid moves to help them dwell in the cellar. They might be dumb enough to trade Watson to a division foe. I want him above anyone else personally. He’s the only guy out there that gives us a chance In The AFC besides Rodgers. Something tells me no way Aaron wants to be in the AFC


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I agree...if the legal issues are bogus.

[Colts And Orioles]

To me, Rodgers is the only option that will not see Wentz starting for the Colts in 2022, and that's only if his age is a large factor in the negotiation (meaning the price is low.) Watson will cost a team's franchise for the next 3-5 years (especially for the Colts), and he might be suspended for an extended period. Wilson will also cost a team's franchise for the next 3-5 years, and is coming off a very uncharacteristic season at age 32 (making him very high risk.) That leaves free agents, and while I'd be willing to give Winston a chance, the Colts had that option and opted instead for a 39 year-old , arm-falling-off Philip Rivers, which says to me that they didn't see him as a starter at that time. The question is, given his body of work since, has that opinion changed, and is he enough of an improvement over Wentz to yet again invest over $50 million of the cap into the QB position to hopefully find a somewhat long-term solution at the position ???





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I'm sure that Aaron Rodgers would love nothing more than to make it back to the Super Bowl for only the second time in his career with a new team, which (at least in his own mind) would fuel the argument that his lack of multiple Super Bowl appearances throughout his career was more of a reflection on the teams that he played for than of himself.

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[Dam8610]

Houston has been an organization that seems to make stupid moves to help them dwell in the cellar. They might be dumb enough to trade Watson to a division foe. I want him above anyone else personally. He’s the only guy out there that gives us a chance In The AFC besides Rodgers. Something tells me no way Aaron wants to be in the AFC


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They've turned down offers of 3 first round picks AFTER the allegations to a non-division foe. No way the Colts can get him for anything reasonable.

[IndyNorm]

Well McDickface is going to Vegas. Maybe he'll dump Carr like he did Cutler, and we can benefit from his dumbassness.

[Lov2fish]

Well McDickface is going to Vegas. Maybe he'll dump Carr like he did Cutler, and we can benefit from his dumbassness.

Allegedly... See if he shows up.

[JAFF]

I agree...if the legal issues are bogus.

How many women need to make an accusation?

This thing stinks, and Watson is a train wreck. Some of those women cant be bought off.

[Dewey 5]

I haven't had much of a chance to look into the 2022 class yet and I don't know if I will be able to. Mills was an interesting case though, highly talented kid who showed promise on the field but had a bad injury history.

Carson Strong

[Hoopsdoc]

Well McDickface is going to Vegas. Maybe he'll dump Carr like he did Cutler, and we can benefit from his dumbassness.

Rumor is McDouche is a huge Carr fan so this hire means he’s staying. Unless he wants out.

[JAFF]

Rumor is McDouche is a huge Carr fan so this hire means he’s staying. Unless he wants out.

Carr is not much of an improvement

[IndyNorm]

Carr is not much of an improvement

While Carr might not be great, he's still a significant improvement over Wentz.

[Chromeburn]

Well McDickface is going to Vegas. Maybe he'll dump Carr like he did Cutler, and we can benefit from his dumbassness.

I find it fascinating they hired him considering they had front row seats on his dismantling of the broncos.

[Chromeburn]

Carr is not much of an improvement

Carr is in the 10-15 range. Wentz is in the 20-25 range.

[Racehorse]

How many women need to make an accusation?

This thing stinks, and Watson is a train wreck. Some of those women cant be bought off.

There was a lot of speculation that a lot of these were bought off to make the story appear. The timing is so suspicious. Doesn't make them all untrue, just suspicious, given the timing.

[bigalbert]

There was a lot of speculation that a lot of these were bought off to make the story appear. The timing is so suspicious. Doesn't make them all untrue, just suspicious, given the timing.


And if I remember correctly every one of them had the same lawyer? That always reeks. I’ve always thought you should be innocent until proven otherwise and so we wait


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[Racehorse]

And if I remember correctly every one of them had the same lawyer? That always reeks. I’ve always thought you should be innocent until proven otherwise and so we wait


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Yes, very fishy!

[Brylok]

Any interest in Leighton Vander Esch?

[JAFF]

There was a lot of speculation that a lot of these were bought off to make the story appear. The timing is so suspicious. Doesn't make them all untrue, just suspicious, given the timing.

These pro players have someone they trust to have PT. Why is he trolling around? Because he is trolling.

[Chromeburn]

And if I remember correctly every one of them had the same lawyer? That always reeks. I’ve always thought you should be innocent until proven otherwise and so we wait


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That isn’t uncommon. I can’t imagine the in house masseuse community is all that large in Houston. I’m sure word got around about him, especially if he is the city’s starting QB. And once one or two stepped forward I am sure the firm reached out to see if there were other plaintiffs it happened to. Might not be a ton a firm wanting to take that on, they might refer any clients to the firm that started it.

[bigalbert]

These pro players have someone they trust to have PT. Why is he trolling around? Because he is trolling.


What’s he trolling? Watson’s lawyer did his work and found out quite a few were after $. They all talked to somebody and those somebody’s don’t always remain confidential


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[JAFF]

What’s he trolling? Watson’s lawyer did his work and found out quite a few were after $. They all talked to somebody and those somebody’s don’t always remain confidential


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https://www.nytimes.com/article/deshaun-watson-sexual-assault-lawsuit.html

You can figure out what he was trolling for on your own

[MeSayDayo]

To get back on topic, I would be interested to know some of your opinions on who we should bring in this offseason. At the very least, I think this is the year that Ballard might actually open the check book for someone (pass rusher, wide receiver or TE)

Edge- Von Miller, Chandler Jones, Fowler Jr, Pierre-Paul, Akiem Hicks, Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, Anthony Barr, Hasson Reddick, Clowney, Emmanuel Ogbah, William Gholston, Solomon Thomas, Derek Barnett, Ryan Kerrigan, Justin Houston, Jihad Ward, Melvin Ingram, KJ Wright

WR- ARob, Godwin, Devante Adams, Will Fuller, Crowder, Hilton, Smith-Schuster, Emmanuel Sanders, AJ Green, Keelan Cole, Sammy Watkins, Mike Williams

TE - Ertz, Jimmy Graham, Gronk, Uzomah, Ebron, Everett, Jared Cook, Tonyan, Firkser, OJ Howard, Hayden Hurst, Evan Engram, Mike Gesiki

CB - Gilmore, Joe Haden, Kyle Fuller, Chris Harris, Patrick Peterson, Bryce Callahan, Jason Verrett, Kevin King

Given, a number of these names will be resigned by their own club before they even hit the market. Considering our funds are rather limited, and with our wide array of needs, I think we spend up on edge and get 2nd or third tier guys elsewhere.

Von Miller would be my first choice, but I like Jones, Hicks, Reddick as options to bolster our D in some way. Miller is a pro and has proven to still have gas in his tank and he might just be a bit cheaper given his age.
Allen Robinson would be my first choice at WR since he would cost in the 12-15 million range as opposed to Adams asking for 25-30. I would have wanted Godwin here but he's coming off a nasty injury and may not be ready till mid season.

I think we all could agree to give Ertz a one year deal, pair him with Wentz, and see if they can get some magic there. I think we likely draft a TE as well and likely push Granson into the lineup more prominently, even though he didn't really earn it or show much.

I think any of the listed veteran CB's could help us tremendously, but I would rather grab a 2nd or 3rd tier guy here that is much younger to see if we can develop him ala Darius Butler or Kenny Moore.

I also think we need to save at last 5 million in cap space this year for a QB. Weather that be Winston, Trubisky, Mariotta...I don't care, but we better be bringing in a vet to take the reigns if (when) Wentz screws up. Hell, knowing Wentz he might just very well lose the job to that vet in training camp since we all know he hates competition.

[rcubed]

I feel/fear that ballard won't stray too far from his FA approach. He talks about winning up front a lot but drafted 2 DE last year that he is really high on, so I wouldn't expect him to sign a big DE FA. I would think CB first followed by WR. And that WR better not be hilton. I am ok resigning hilton to a one year low cost deal but if ballard does that and calls it good thats a big mistake.

[YDFL Commish]

To get back on topic, I would be interested to know some of your opinions on who we should bring in this offseason. At the very least, I think this is the year that Ballard might actually open the check book for someone (pass rusher, wide receiver or TE)

Edge- Von Miller, Chandler Jones, Fowler Jr, Pierre-Paul, Akiem Hicks, Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, Anthony Barr, Hasson Reddick, Clowney, Emmanuel Ogbah, William Gholston, Solomon Thomas, Derek Barnett, Ryan Kerrigan, Justin Houston, Jihad Ward, Melvin Ingram, KJ Wright

WR- ARob, Godwin, Devante Adams, Will Fuller, Crowder, Hilton, Smith-Schuster, Emmanuel Sanders, AJ Green, Keelan Cole, Sammy Watkins, Mike Williams

TE - Ertz, Jimmy Graham, Gronk, Uzomah, Ebron, Everett, Jared Cook, Tonyan, Firkser, OJ Howard, Hayden Hurst, Evan Engram, Mike Gesiki

CB - Gilmore, Joe Haden, Kyle Fuller, Chris Harris, Patrick Peterson, Bryce Callahan, Jason Verrett, Kevin King

Given, a number of these names will be resigned by their own club before they even hit the market. Considering our funds are rather limited, and with our wide array of needs, I think we spend up on edge and get 2nd or third tier guys elsewhere.

Von Miller would be my first choice, but I like Jones, Hicks, Reddick as options to bolster our D in some way. Miller is a pro and has proven to still have gas in his tank and he might just be a bit cheaper given his age.
Allen Robinson would be my first choice at WR since he would cost in the 12-15 million range as opposed to Adams asking for 25-30. I would have wanted Godwin here but he's coming off a nasty injury and may not be ready till mid season.

I think we all could agree to give Ertz a one year deal, pair him with Wentz, and see if they can get some magic there. I think we likely draft a TE as well and likely push Granson into the lineup more prominently, even though he didn't really earn it or show much.

I think any of the listed veteran CB's could help us tremendously, but I would rather grab a 2nd or 3rd tier guy here that is much younger to see if we can develop him ala Darius Butler or Kenny Moore.

I also think we need to save at last 5 million in cap space this year for a QB. Weather that be Winston, Trubisky, Mariotta...I don't care, but we better be bringing in a vet to take the reigns if (when) Wentz screws up. Hell, knowing Wentz he might just very well lose the job to that vet in training camp since we all know he hates competition.

Godwin could probably be had for cheap, coming off of injury.

[ChaosTheory]

What is Haasan Reddick's deal? I haven't watched much of him yet, but I'm curious. He doesn't have much of a stat line for his first three years, but the past two years...

2020 ARZ: 12.5sacks 16hits 15tfl 6ff

2021 CAR: 11.0sacks 18hits 12tfl 2ff


Clearly better numbers than anyone we have aside from Buckner. Just going by numbers, he and Buckner are fairly similar. But he only started 31 of 64 games in ARZ and CAR only signed him to a 1yr $6m deal. Anybody know why that is?

[Dam8610]

What is Haasan Reddick's deal? I haven't watched much of him yet, but I'm curious. He doesn't have much of a stat line for his first three years, but the past two years...

2020 ARZ: 12.5sacks 16hits 15tfl 6ff

2021 CAR: 11.0sacks 18hits 12tfl 2ff


Clearly better numbers than anyone we have aside from Buckner. Just going by numbers, he and Buckner are fairly similar. But he only started 31 of 64 games in ARZ and CAR only signed him to a 1yr $6m deal. Anybody know why that is?

1 year prove it deal because of the sparse history of good production.

[Dam8610]

To get back on topic, I would be interested to know some of your opinions on who we should bring in this offseason. At the very least, I think this is the year that Ballard might actually open the check book for someone (pass rusher, wide receiver or TE)

Edge- Von Miller, Chandler Jones, Fowler Jr, Pierre-Paul, Akiem Hicks, Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, Anthony Barr, Hasson Reddick, Clowney, Emmanuel Ogbah, William Gholston, Solomon Thomas, Derek Barnett, Ryan Kerrigan, Justin Houston, Jihad Ward, Melvin Ingram, KJ Wright

WR- ARob, Godwin, Devante Adams, Will Fuller, Crowder, Hilton, Smith-Schuster, Emmanuel Sanders, AJ Green, Keelan Cole, Sammy Watkins, Mike Williams

TE - Ertz, Jimmy Graham, Gronk, Uzomah, Ebron, Everett, Jared Cook, Tonyan, Firkser, OJ Howard, Hayden Hurst, Evan Engram, Mike Gesiki

CB - Gilmore, Joe Haden, Kyle Fuller, Chris Harris, Patrick Peterson, Bryce Callahan, Jason Verrett, Kevin King

Given, a number of these names will be resigned by their own club before they even hit the market. Considering our funds are rather limited, and with our wide array of needs, I think we spend up on edge and get 2nd or third tier guys elsewhere.

Von Miller would be my first choice, but I like Jones, Hicks, Reddick as options to bolster our D in some way. Miller is a pro and has proven to still have gas in his tank and he might just be a bit cheaper given his age.
Allen Robinson would be my first choice at WR since he would cost in the 12-15 million range as opposed to Adams asking for 25-30. I would have wanted Godwin here but he's coming off a nasty injury and may not be ready till mid season.

I think we all could agree to give Ertz a one year deal, pair him with Wentz, and see if they can get some magic there. I think we likely draft a TE as well and likely push Granson into the lineup more prominently, even though he didn't really earn it or show much.

I think any of the listed veteran CB's could help us tremendously, but I would rather grab a 2nd or 3rd tier guy here that is much younger to see if we can develop him ala Darius Butler or Kenny Moore.

I also think we need to save at last 5 million in cap space this year for a QB. Weather that be Winston, Trubisky, Mariotta...I don't care, but we better be bringing in a vet to take the reigns if (when) Wentz screws up. Hell, knowing Wentz he might just very well lose the job to that vet in training camp since we all know he hates competition.

In free agency, I think you back up the Brinks truck for Chandler Jones and Terron Armstead, then go draft WRs and TEs.

[Puck]

In free agency, I think you back up the Brinks truck for Chandler Jones and Terron Armstead, then go draft WRs and TEs.

Dam. Its gonna be a wide 9 vet to teach the youngins what to do. TE and especially WR will be further down the want list than FS and CB LT will be even further down the list. Fisher will be the starter in 2022 with another season to get healthy

[apballin]

In free agency, I think you back up the Brinks truck for Chandler Jones and Terron Armstead, then go draft WRs and TEs.

No fuckin way Jones had 1 great game week 1 and didn’t do shit after that fuck that dude he’s so overrated

5 sacks week 1- ends season with 10 sacks

Last 6 weeks of the season he had 1 sack

Fuck that dude

[ukcolt]

We have very little money spare, we are not going to be big players in free agency guys. We have so many of our own free agents that we might need to resign. Now some of the lower level guys are just going to replace the existing lowest contract value so won't take up any space off the available cap space. But i can see some of the lower guys who we might want to keep such as Pryor, Reed, Turay, Lewis, Odum earning significantly more than they are currently earning. Lets just say for arguments sake they average $4m each, thats $20m. Are we going to resign Fisher, he is likely to get similar to last year @ $8-9m, Alie-Cox might expect $5m. Stallworth, Dulin, Adams, Franklin, are each likely to get paid $2m each. So we have already taken $42m just to resign some of our own. What does that leave us with $15m, for a new QB, WR, CB, DE etc. We are not about to be splashing the cash, as we simply don't have that much. If Doyle retires that would give some more cap space, but another position of need to fill.

Name - 2021 salary
Fisher - 8.3m
Hilton - 8.0m
Glowinski - 5.4m
Rhodes - 4.8m
Alie-Cox - 3.4m
Pascal - 3.4m
Muhammad - 2.9m
Tevi - 2.5m
Rochell - 2.5m
Odum - 2.1m
Carrie - 2.1m
Mack - 2.0m
Turay - 1.3m
Davenport - 1.1m
Reed - 1.1m
Lewis - 1.1m
Sendejo - 1.1m
Addae - 1m
Badgley - 0.9m
Woods - 0.9m
Stallworth - 0.9m - Restricted
Dulin - 0.85m - Restricted
Pryor - 0.7m
Adams - 0.6m
Franklin - 0.6m

[Ironshaft]

We don't have enough free cap space to sign more than 1 or 2 "name" FAs this off season. Most of our free cap will be used in $2 - $5m chunks to re-sign our own (Odum, Pryor, Reed, etc).

Of those one or two "name" signings, my priority would be: LT, WR, CB, TE.

However, none of it will really matter until we get a winner at QB which Wentz is not, IMO.

[Racehorse]

We have very little money spare, we are not going to be big players in free agency guys. We have so many of our own free agents that we might need to resign. Now some of the lower level guys are just going to replace the existing lowest contract value so won't take up any space off the available cap space. But i can see some of the lower guys who we might want to keep such as Pryor, Reed, Turay, Lewis, Odum earning significantly more than they are currently earning. Lets just say for arguments sake they average $4m each, thats $20m. Are we going to resign Fisher, he is likely to get similar to last year @ $8-9m, Alie-Cox might expect $5m. Stallworth, Dulin, Adams, Franklin, are each likely to get paid $2m each. So we have already taken $42m just to resign some of our own. What does that leave us with $15m, for a new QB, WR, CB, DE etc. We are not about to be splashing the cash, as we simply don't have that much. If Doyle retires that would give some more cap space, but another position of need to fill.

Name - 2021 salary
Fisher - 8.3m
Hilton - 8.0m
Glowinski - 5.4m
Rhodes - 4.8m
Alie-Cox - 3.4m
Pascal - 3.4m
Muhammad - 2.9m
Tevi - 2.5m
Rochell - 2.5m
Odum - 2.1m
Carrie - 2.1m
Mack - 2.0m
Turay - 1.3m
Davenport - 1.1m
Reed - 1.1m
Lewis - 1.1m
Sendejo - 1.1m
Addae - 1m
Badgley - 0.9m
Woods - 0.9m
Stallworth - 0.9m - Restricted
Dulin - 0.85m - Restricted
Pryor - 0.7m
Adams - 0.6m
Franklin - 0.6m
This is mostly my point of this thread. I keep seeing "sign this guy" comments, and the reality is we just won't have that luxury. we need to fill spots of expiring contracts.

[JAFF]

This is mostly my point of this thread. I keep seeing "sign this guy" comments, and the reality is we just won't have that luxury. we need to fill spots of expiring contracts.

Exactly. The Colts can go moving money and playing cap games to chase overpriced talent and it accelerates the cap issues.

[CletusPyle]

Colts were like 10-20 plays away from having home field throughout the playoffs...players need to work and improve in the off season, a good draft will put this team in the hunt next season! Find an experienced, knowledgeable former QB, who is an expert on identifying defenses and going through progressions, pay him a boatload to work with Carson in the off season and offer him bonuses contingent on Wentz's improvement and success next season! If we don't have the cap to get a proven franchise QB, we can pay top dollar to try to develop what we do have in Wentz!

I don't think Wentz is just doing this for the money...I believe he is a competitor and wants to win a championship, looks like he is going to get one more year, he'd better make the most of it!

[Colts And Orioles]

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Could the Colts Pursue Cardinals Prized, Free-Agent Pass Rusher Chandler Jones ???

(By Luke Schultheis)

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2022/3/4/22960855/could-colts-pursue-cardinals-prized-free-agent-pass-rusher-chandler-jones

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[Oldcolt]

There will be an article about every edge rusher out there being a fit with us. Don’t think we should sign a top one. Like it or not we have spent so much draft capital on ends we must get some return so I’m for seeing what they can do. I want us to overpay for one of the top wide receivers. We haven’t spent as much in way of draft capital and rookie wide receivers have a difficult time making an impact. We need an impact wide receiver now, not in 2-3 years.

[IndyNorm]

Cole Beasley anyone? He's aging, but is still very productive as a slot WR, which we can really use.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/15349/cole-beasley

[Dam8610]

To me, the one free agent the Colts should pull out all the stops for is Terron Armstead. Get him and don't let him go anywhere else. Yes the Colts will have the most expensive OL but they will also have the most effective OL.

[JAFF]

To me, the one free agent the Colts should pull out all the stops for is Terron Armstead. Get him and don't let him go anywhere else. Yes the Colts will have the most expensive OL but they will also have the most effective OL.

Not the worst idea. Long term solution, could play a young Qb back there giving him time.

[ChaosTheory]

To me, the one free agent the Colts should pull out all the stops for is Terron Armstead. Get him and don't let him go anywhere else. Yes the Colts will have the most expensive OL but they will also have the most effective OL.

I like Armstead. But what would our cap hit for OL be? I'm assuming he'll be looking for Trent Williams money at least. And Nelson's going to have a monster contract upcoming. Like $65m for starting OL?

[Butter]

I like Armstead. But what would our cap hit for OL be? I'm assuming he'll be looking for Trent Williams money at least. And Nelson's going to have a monster contract upcoming. Like $65m for starting OL?

Smart money is to trade Nelson for first+picks his huge contract as a guard is going to hurt the colts.

[JAFF]

Smart money is to trade Nelson for first+picks his huge contract as a guard is going to hurt the colts.

Trading away the best player on the team? A guy who might get to Canton? You renegotiate his contract. Taylor will be less effective with a rookie at LG. If finding guys like Nelson was easy, everybody who have one.

[Dam8610]

I like Armstead. But what would our cap hit for OL be? I'm assuming he'll be looking for Trent Williams money at least. And Nelson's going to have a monster contract upcoming. Like $65m for starting OL?

Yes, it would be a large chunk of the cap, probably closer to $80 million, but it would also be the best OL in the NFL. All that cap money they're spending on OL now will be a waste if LT is a turnstile. If you're paying the premium, get the best, going cheap at the most important position and spending on everything else doesn't make sense.

[ChaosTheory]

Yes, it would be a large chunk of the cap, probably closer to $80 million, but it would also be the best OL in the NFL. All that cap money they're spending on OL now will be a waste if LT is a turnstile. If you're paying the premium, get the best, going cheap at the most important position and spending on everything else doesn't make sense.

That's a tough one because I agree with the assessment. That OL would be a true weapon and I wouldn't complain. But that wouldn't just be the most expensive OL in the league... That would be $25m more than second place. It would awesome to have, though

By the way, where does $80m come from? I remember reading that if we gave Armstead $20m/yr we'd be at around $55m total. I'd assume he wants more. So then if Nelson gets a $20m+ salary, wouldn't that be around $65m-$70m?

[Oldcolt]

No no no on Armstead. and FUCK NO on trading Nelson. Christ does everyone forget the incredible change in this offensive line when Nelson became a part of it. At some point we need to find younger and cheaper alternative for this line, otherwise we will not have a well balanced team. I'm hoping we draft our new right guard (or use Pinter and draft a backup) to save money. I'm hoping for a one year contract for Fisher. I don't get the hate here. It was as if everyone thought we were getting a fully functional player 9 months after an Achilles. It was always made clear to me that coming all the way back from an Achilles injury is impossible the first year. You don't get your explosion or quickness back that fast. I felt that if he was just ok the first year (and I think he was, he was a monster in run blocking-all those who love JT should have been happy with this part of his play) we should stick with what I always thought was a two year plan with the guy. If the so called experts are correct we should see a big improvement in his pass blocking this year-a gamble but I think a reasonable one and one that wont break the bank. Ballard has been crap at getting defensive ends in the draft but has been excellent in finding offensive line talent in the draft. The long term answer should come via the draft in my opinion.

[Voosh]

Smart money is to trade Nelson for first+picks his huge contract as a guard is going to hurt the colts.
I'm torn about Nelson. Paying a guard LT money is crazy, especially when we don't have a solid LT. I'm also concerned about his injuries this past season especially the back one which, if I remember correctly, has become a nagging one. That being said, they will most likely resign him. Ballard said that much in a recent interview.

[Dam8610]

That's a tough one because I agree with the assessment. That OL would be a true weapon and I wouldn't complain. But that wouldn't just be the most expensive OL in the league... That would be $25m more than second place. It would awesome to have, though

By the way, where does $80m come from? I remember reading that if we gave Armstead $20m/yr we'd be at around $55m total. I'd assume he wants more. So then if Nelson gets a $20m+ salary, wouldn't that be around $65m-$70m?

I see, we're in the early years of Kelly's and Braden's deals, so the cap hit is much lower than the AAV, so yes it would be closer to the $65 million range.

[apballin]

Yes, it would be a large chunk of the cap, probably closer to $80 million, but it would also be the best OL in the NFL. All that cap money they're spending on OL now will be a waste if LT is a turnstile. If you're paying the premium, get the best, going cheap at the most important position and spending on everything else doesn't make sense.

Totally agree I wanted to break the bank for Trent Williams last year

[rcubed]

Signed CB Tony Brown

per the .com: Indianapolis –The Indianapolis Colts today signed free agent cornerback Tony Brown.

Brown, 6-0, 199 pounds, has played in 33 career games (four starts) in his time with the Las Vegas Raiders (2021), Cincinnati Bengals (2020-21), Green Bay Packers (2018-19) and Los Angeles Chargers (2018) and has totaled 50 tackles (39 solo), 3.0 tackles for loss, six passes defensed, two forced fumbles and eight special teams stops. In 2021, he spent time on the practice squads of the Raiders and Bengals.

[Dewey 5]

Cowboys traded Amari Cooper to Cleveland for basically nothing. 5th & 6th round pick.

[Ironshaft]

Cowboys traded Amari Cooper to Cleveland for basically nothing. 5th & 6th round pick.
And a $20m per year cap hit. Even with that, I would have wanted him if we had a shot at him.

Cooper and Pittman on the outside with a 2nd round rookie playing this year in the slot and a free agent TE along with MAC and Granson? Yeah, that dog hunts.

However, my guess is that Ballard, if he was in the hunt, is not willing to commit big money to pass catchers until he knows who his pass thrower is going to be.

And if Cooper had a say in the matter, why would he pick to come to Indy without knowing who would throw to him versus going somewhere he knew at least had a QB?

Perhaps IND is targeting Davente Adams (whom GB cannot now pay) who will not cost any draft picks.

[rm1369]

However, my guess is that Ballard, if he was in the hunt, is not willing to commit big money to pass catchers …...

I think you could have stopped right there. Unless Irsay has dictated it, Ballard isn’t going to invest a lot at WR. I don’t agree, but he’s repeatedly told us such.

[smitty46953]

Perhaps IND is targeting Davente Adams (whom GB cannot now pay) who will not cost any draft picks.

The Green Bay Packers used the franchise tag on wide receiver Davante Adams :cool:

[Racehorse]

The Green Bay Packers used the franchise tag on wide receiver Davante Adams :cool:

Not sure where the money will come for on this one.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/green-bay-packers/

[IndyNorm]

And a $20m per year cap hit. Even with that, I would have wanted him if we had a shot at him.

Cooper and Pittman on the outside with a 2nd round rookie playing this year in the slot and a free agent TE along with MAC and Granson? Yeah, that dog hunts.

However, my guess is that Ballard, if he was in the hunt, is not willing to commit big money to pass catchers until he knows who his pass thrower is going to be.

And if Cooper had a say in the matter, why would he pick to come to Indy without knowing who would throw to him versus going somewhere he knew at least had a QB?

Perhaps IND is targeting Davente Adams (whom GB cannot now pay) who will not cost any draft picks.

The Browns got Dallas' 6th round pick in return as well, so the trade is even better for them, and none of Cooper's salary go fwd is guaranteed so it should be pretty easy to rework his deal.

Would've been nice for the Colts to have gotten in on this, but as you pointed out it's probably not worth pursuing until we get the QB situation figured out.

[Oldcolt]

Zach Ertz signed a 3 year deal with Arizona

[Colts And Orioles]

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Could the Colts Pursue Cardinals Prized, Free-Agent Pass Rusher Chandler Jones ???

(By Luke Schultheis)

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2022/3/4/22960855/could-colts-pursue-cardinals-prized-free-agent-pass-rusher-chandler-jones

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Raider Shakeup: Chandler Jones Signed, Yannick Ngakoue Traded

(By Case Keefer)

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2022/mar/16/raider-shakeup-chandler-jones-signed-yannick-ngako/

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