More Colts added to COVID Reserve List - Wentz, Kelly, and Pascal

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Not what I wanted to see today - this will not help Wentz and Kelly get ready for Week 1.

These moves may impact the final 53 man roster decisions - or rather, delay some decisions because the Colts will get an extra roster spot to replace each COVID reserve player.

https://twitter.com/Colts/status/1432391780675244032

We have placed C Ryan Kelly, WR Zach Pascal and QB Carson Wentz on the Reserve/COVID-19 list.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1432402821962518531

The three players the Colts placed on the Reserve/COVID-19 list today -- QB Carson Wentz, WR Zach Pascal and C Ryan Kelly -- are all close contacts with a staff member who tested positive, per source. Back in five days as long as they remain negative and asymptomatic.

https://twitter.com/jimayello/status/1432393297302073351

On Carson Wentz, this was supposed to be a big week for him in terms of his recovery. The Colts wanted to see him string together back-to-back days of full practice and gauge how the foot responded.

That can't happen now. Not this week.

[Oldcolt]

Maybe I’m just paranoid but the lack is vaccinated players is going to make a run at the title all but impossible. Wentz, if he isn’t vaccinated-and seeing him always in a mask makes me believe he isn’t- is going to be extremely difficult to overcome. Every time he comes in contact with COVID it’s 5 more days without practice-something he desperately needs. I am beginning to believe this team is going to go nowhere fast. Nelson isn’t vaccinated (if he had been he wouldn’t have been quarantined for 5 days) Leonard appears not to be either. Hard enough to deal with injuries much less this shit

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/status/1432400457423597580

Asked Frank Reich on Friday night if Nelson's situation drove home the fact that being unvaccinated could cause guys to miss a game as a close contact.

His response: "I don't like to play that card, but it is what it is. So yes, it does show that."

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/status/1432400950703104001

More Reich: "We'll continue to educate the players. I still respect, greatly respect, the choice that each individual player has. We'll continue to educate and give whatever counsel we can. We recommend that every player should be vaccinated, but we respect individual choice."

[rm1369]

Maybe I’m just paranoid but the lack is vaccinated players is going to make a run at the title all but impossible. Wentz, if he isn’t vaccinated-and seeing him always in a mask makes me believe he isn’t- is going to be extremely difficult to overcome. Every time he comes in contact with COVID it’s 5 more days without practice-something he desperately needs. I am beginning to believe this team is going to go nowhere fast. Nelson isn’t vaccinated (if he had been he wouldn’t have been quarantined for 5 days) Leonard appears not to be either. Hard enough to deal with injuries much less this shit

Not paranoid - realistic. It’s going to be a lost season.

[nate505]

Awesome, the least vaccinated team in the league strikes again!

[Puck]

Maybe I’m just paranoid but the lack is vaccinated players is going to make a run at the title all but impossible. Wentz, if he isn’t vaccinated-and seeing him always in a mask makes me believe he isn’t- is going to be extremely difficult to overcome. Every time he comes in contact with COVID it’s 5 more days without practice-something he desperately needs. I am beginning to believe this team is going to go nowhere fast. Nelson isn’t vaccinated (if he had been he wouldn’t have been quarantined for 5 days) Leonard appears not to be either. Hard enough to deal with injuries much less this shit

Nelson would have still been quarantined. Just like Reich was and just like Kelly is now

[Puck]

I am correcting myself. I thought Nelson tested positive. He was only in close contact. So he wouldn’t have missed time.

[Hoopsdoc]

I’m starting to get the feeling that this whole Wentz experiment is going to be a disaster. It’s sure as hell not starting out very well.

[Jerryklimczuk]

I’m starting to get the feeling that this whole Wentz experiment is going to be a disaster. It’s sure as hell not starting out very well.Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup, not looking good thats for sure. I was so disappointed when I heard they picked him up. Mr. Glass.

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[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

I am correcting myself. I thought Nelson tested positive. He was only in close contact. So he wouldn’t have missed time.

Keefer retracted his earlier comment - he now indicates that Kelly is not fully vaccinated.

So that means that Nelson, Kelly, Wentz and Pascal will all miss a mandatory 5 days due to being a close contact with someone and not being vaccinated.
Nelson was lucky - his timing included the last preseason game and the weekend so he didn't miss any significant practice time. Kelly, Wentz and Pascal weren't so lucky and will miss a significant amount of practice leading up to Week 1 - especially for Kelly and Wentz coming off their injuries.

[CaliColtsFan]

Arrrrgh! ....soo Frustrating!!

[Oldcolt]

What I find kinda bizarre is that so many of the so called team leaders, the vocal team first guys are unvaccinated. Makes me wonder about all this psychological stuff we do. What exactly are they looking for? Leadership like this ain’t for shit.

[CaliColtsFan]

Also bizarre is how NFL players will take some pretty strong, dangerous, toxic and addictive pain killers so readily and often; Drugs that show up in you liver and kidneys almost immediately after ingesting or injection. Drugs legal and otherwise that have been proven to cause long-term damage and cause addictions that have ruined careers and even lives, yet have such an issue with an FDA approved vaccination...

[apballin]

Good thing there’s an extra week after the last preseason game this year

[Brylok]

Nice leadership Wentz, ya shit.

[daedge]

Maybe I’m just paranoid but the lack is vaccinated players is going to make a run at the title all but impossible. Wentz, if he isn’t vaccinated-and seeing him always in a mask makes me believe he isn’t- is going to be extremely difficult to overcome. Every time he comes in contact with COVID it’s 5 more days without practice-something he desperately needs. I am beginning to believe this team is going to go nowhere fast. Nelson isn’t vaccinated (if he had been he wouldn’t have been quarantined for 5 days) Leonard appears not to be either. Hard enough to deal with injuries much less this shit

Kelly also isn't vaccinated.

[HoosierinFL]

Nice leadership Wentz, ya shit.

Lol I just got permabanned from the /r/Colts subreddit for saying he was an idiot.

[rcubed]

Also bizarre is how NFL players will take some pretty strong, dangerous, toxic and addictive pain killers so readily and often; Drugs that show up in you liver and kidneys almost immediately after ingesting or injection. Drugs legal and otherwise that have been proven to cause long-term damage and cause addictions that have ruined careers and even lives, yet have such an issue with an FDA approved vaccination...

cause the government is out to get you.

[Oldcolt]

Be interesting to see if this 5 day ban has any affect on Colt vaccination rate. This is going to be a tough team to root for if they lose games because of pure stupidity. The NFL has made it crystal clear that they are going to put you at competitive disadvantage for not getting vaccinated. Plus this Wentz idiot is now the face of the franchise. Jeez how shitty is that?

[apballin]

Once again I’ll quote the great Tony Dungy here “We’re gonna be fine”

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Be interesting to see if this 5 day ban has any affect on Colt vaccination rate.


The vaccination rate will likely be going down tomorrow. The Colts were at about 75% vaccinated at the 90 player roster limit. Once the team is down to the 53 man roster + 16 player practice squad, the vaccination rate will probably be around 70%, maybe even slightly below it.

[Oldcolt]

I was wondering if it might motivate these guys to get vaccinated once they feel the consequences and see the effect it will have in the team. COVID is rampant throughout the country. It seems impossible that players won’t come in contact with COVID positive individuals. It was theoretical, it isn’t anymore

[JAFF]

Unfortunately, the time to get a vaccination was 2 months ago, for Moderna, and a month ago for the J & J.

It takes time for a vaccine to stimulate the immune system and build resistance.

Gregg Doyle pitched a nutty on RATS abut these players and their choices

[Oldcolt]

[QUOTE=JAFF;200414]Unfortunately, the time to get a vaccination was 2 months ago, for Moderna, and a month ago for the J & J.

It takes time for a vaccine to stimulate the immune system and build resistance.



Agreed. However having folks vaccinated and immune by October is better than not.

[Dam8610]

Unfortunately, the time to get a vaccination was 2 months ago, for Moderna, and a month ago for the J & J.

It takes time for a vaccine to stimulate the immune system and build resistance.

Gregg Doyle pitched a nutty on RATS abut these players and their choices

Every vaccine has a period of 2 weeks to be considered immune according to everything I've read and heard.

[Workhorse]

Every vaccine has a period of 2 weeks to be considered immune according to everything I've read and heard.
Two weeks after the final dose.

[Workhorse]

What I find kinda bizarre is that so many of the so called team leaders, the vocal team first guys are unvaccinated. Makes me wonder about all this psychological stuff we do. What exactly are they looking for? Leadership like this ain’t for shit.

Kelly said he is vaxed, just FYI.

[rm1369]

It is really hard for me to think this won’t have an affect in the locker room. I can’t look at someone the same way knowing they are so ignorant or selfish they refuse to get vaccinated. Got to wonder what a guy like Buckner REALLY thinks about shit like this. I can’t imagine being in a locker room with so many supposed “team leaders” risking the season. Especially knowing Covid cost them a division title last year.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Kelly said he is vaxed, just FYI.


However, Ryan Kelly was placed on the COVID reserve list for being a close contact.

That would indicate that either:
1) he has not received both doses of a two dose vaccine
2) he is not documented as fully vaccinated due to timing - 14 days haven't elapsed after the final dose
3) he is not vaccinated after all.

[JAFF]

Every vaccine has a period of 2 weeks to be considered immune according to everything I've read and heard.

Partial immunity after two weeks for most. I got a second dose of moderna after a month, so that got me to full immunity two weeks later.

The Johnson gets you to partial in 2 weeks, but is only about 77% of total immunity on average,

Because of variants, booster shots will be necessary, and you will be elgible after 8 months

https://www.healthline.com/health/how-long-after-the-second-dose-of-the-covid-vaccine-are-you-immune

[Ironshaft]

... I can’t look at someone the same way knowing they are so ignorant or selfish they refuse to get vaccinated...

Because there is NO other reason that someone might be hesitant on getting the vaccine other than ignorance or being selfish.... :rolleyes: No legitimate medical concerns are valid.... :rolleyes:

The totalitarian nature of many on this board about the lives of their modern day gladiators is breathtaking.

[nate505]

Kelly said he is vaxed, just FYI.

I'll automatically assume people who say they are, are, and those who won't say it at all are not.

I have a Measles/Mumps/Rubella vaccine. I can't remember a time where I was ever afraid to tell the world I had it.

[HoosierinFL]

Because there is NO other reason that someone might be hesitant on getting the vaccine other than ignorance or being selfish.... :rolleyes: No legitimate medical concerns are valid.... :rolleyes:

The totalitarian nature of many on this board about the lives of their modern day gladiators is breathtaking.

Not very many legitimate reasons.
I'm qualified to read the science and understand the data. The side effects are incredibly mild. Serious side effects are incredibly rare. It is not, as many want to say, some sort of "brand new technology" as it has been researched for 15 years since the first SARS outbreak.

And its worth pointing out that many who of the same people who want to distrust medical science on this are perfectly willing to take the dangerous and ineffective drugs like hydroxycholoroquine and ivermectin. This reveals that the real issue is not a legitimate scientific skepticism but partisan rejection based on some misguided notion of liberty. The fact that you invoked totalitarianism just because someone (me) might think another person is an idiot and fool for not getting the vaccine reveals the partisan and politicization of this. I'm not the government, I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything. But the mere fact that you don't *legally have to* take the vaccine is not a reason to not take the vaccine. You should do it because you choose to do it, because it is both the responsible and intelligent thing to do. And if you can't understand that, if you can't trust standard legitimate medical science, then your politics are leading you down a road of foolishness.

The fact that the mods of the Colts subreddit permabanned me for this sentiment is far more totalitarian than anyone trying to halt a significant public health threat.

[Oldcolt]

Reich had an interview today where he discussed vaccinations. He and Ballard are completely for the team getting them. They think it is good medically and give the teams with the most vaccinated players a competitive advantage. They have been clear with Colt players. The concern with requiring them is long term. They are trying to build to compete year in and year out. Player resentment can make that difficult (Green Bay). It appears they have chosen to take short term lumps (I read that as if they need to screw this season because of COVID so be it) to insure the long term happiness of the players. I understand their position. I don't think it will work out well for us either short term or long term. I don't know how players that are vaccinated like Buckner are going to be pleased with players like Wentz if and when he misses games because of his vaccine views. It is bound to cause turmoil.

I am commenting only on the effect vaccinationing or not will have on this team from a football standpoint. I don't think I am qualified to judge personal decisions of people I don't even know (and I've been a practicing physician for over 35 years). I am vaccinated as is my entire family. This harms the Colts from a football perspective, and that pisses me off.

[JAFF]

I'll automatically assume people who say they are, are, and those who won't say it at all are not.

I have a Measles/Mumps/Rubella vaccine. I can't remember a time where I was ever afraid to tell the world I had it.

I can tell you that probably saved you a lot of health issues. I’m old enough to say I had the mumps and measles and they were horrible. A student in the school I attended in elementary died from the mumps.

I was never so sick in my life since having mumps and measles they were a motherfucker

[JAFF]

There are other reasons why a person should get the vaccine.

Love thy neighbor. The hospitals are full with Covid patients. People with other serious medical conditions are having problems getting care. The hospital workers from the doctors all the way down to the people mopping the floors are exhausted.

The nurses the doctors the people doing the paperwork are all at risk in a giant building filled with the virus. And if we can’t get people to go get vaccinated this will drag on.

And for those people who think taking a parasite drug meant for cows and horses, because some idiot on the Internet said it was a good idea, go fuck yourself. Going to the farm and fleet and getting medicine meant for a horse is about the dumbest damn thing I’ve ever heard. This is natural selection you’re too damn stupid to survive.

I know that’s harsh and I’m at the point now where I don’t care anymore.

[Hoopsdoc]

There are other reasons why a person should get the vaccine.

Love thy neighbor. The hospitals are full with Covid patients. People with other serious medical conditions are having problems getting care. The hospital workers from the doctors all the way down to the people mopping the floors are exhausted.

The nurses the doctors the people doing the paperwork are all at risk in a giant building filled with the virus. And if we can’t get people to go get vaccinated this will drag on.

And for those people who think taking a parasite drug meant for cows and horses, because some idiot on the Internet said it was a good idea, go fuck yourself. Going to the farm and fleet and getting medicine meant for a horse is about the dumbest damn thing I’ve ever heard. This is natural selection you’re too damn stupid to survive.

I know that’s harsh and I’m at the point now where I don’t care anymore.

I’m by no means an anti vaxer(fully vaccinated), but I tend to have a little more sympathy for people who are hesitant.

Personally, I know 3 people who have had serious reactions to the moderna vaccine, including a co worker who nearly died from blood clots, which she was told were a direct result of the vaccine. FWIW, she’s 36 and in excellent health and now she’s on blood thinners for at least 6 months.

[Brylok]

I had chickenpox when I was a kid. The week I turn 50, I plan to get the shingles vaccine. It's still a few years away, but y'all are free to suffer from shingles if that's your choice.

[nate505]

This season is probably fucked. When the QB, aka the most pivotal position on the team, is an anti vaxxer, this most likely won't be the first time this happens.

If it does, hopefully he can at least miss 25% or whatever of the season so the Colts can use a first round pick and draft a QB with brains.

[CaliColtsFan]

I doubt that this is the only time all season Wentz misses time because of Covid-19.
With Elhlinger out 6 weeks, I'm surprised they cut Hundley.

*perhaps HotRod will come in at QB if Eason gets hurt :cool:

[YDFL Commish]

T
Love thy neighbor.

HA! HA! HA! We don't have that anymore in this country, everybody thinks that they have the right to personal freedoms, no matter the detriment to their community.

Liberal or Conservative, they all have their agendas that are neither beneficial to this country.

[apballin]

It just baffles me with that much money and games on the line it seems like it would be a no brainer for these players out of respect for your teammates and their families at the least

[Oldcolt]

It is being reported that half the Colts starting offense is not vaccinated. This is not only going to be hugely detrimental to whatever chances they have at winning, I believe it is going to have a very harmful effect on the fanbase. With so many star players apparently anti-vaxx it will turn off many fans. I'll watch but I will not get emotionally involved with this team. When the Colts lose I'm in a shit mood. I'll be damned if I'm going to ruin even one day because of a bunch of anti-vaxxers. I don't see how I'll ever get joy out of rooting for Wentz. It will be interesting to see if Reich can keep this team from imploding on itself. I'm guessing he doesn't. Losing in of itself makes for finger pointing. Losing because some of your teammates refused to get a vaccine will piss off anyone who is a winner at heart even more.

[nate505]

Great, so many anti vaxing morons on one side of the ball. Fantastic.

[nate505]

Foles isn't an anti vaxxing dumb fuck is he? Can we trade for him and just cut Wentz?

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

I doubt that this is the only time all season Wentz misses time because of Covid-19.
With Elhlinger out 6 weeks, I'm surprised they cut Hundley.



There were a few interesting names cut yesterday if the Colts want a look at another young QB.

The two QB's drafted after Jacob Eason (4th round, Pick 122) in the 2020 NFL draft were both cut.

James Morgan (4th round, Pick 125) and Jake Fromm (5th round, Pick 167) were both waived yesterday. However, the Colts may be OK finding a vet as the 3rd string and just keeping him on the practice squad until Ehlinger comes back from injury.

[Brylok]

Eric Fisher has tested positive for COVID-19 according to the USA Today Coltswire. Sorry, no link.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Eric Fisher has tested positive for COVID-19 according to the USA Today Coltswire. Sorry, no link.


Yeah, that happened last week. It was announced that Fisher and Big Q were placed on the COVID reserve list - Fisher was placed on the list because he had contracted COVID and Big Q was a close contact. Big Q was activated off the COVID reserve list while Fisher remains on it until he recovers from the virus.

[Oldcolt]

Well at least Fisher will have some antibodies. Lets hope he isn't a long hauler. This is all so asinine.

[Colts And Orioles]

Well, at least Fisher will have some antibodies. Lets hope he isn't a long hauler. This is all so asinine.






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If anybody knows ...... if a player who has had the virus and recovered from it but WAS NOT vaccinated in the first place, is that player treated the same as a someone who has been fully vaccinated in terms of NFL protocol ???


Thanks in advance.

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[rcubed]

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If anybody knows ...... if a player who has had the virus and recovered from it but WAS NOT vaccinated in the first place, is that player treated the same as a someone who has been fully vaccinated in terms of NFL protocol ???


Thanks in advance.

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My guess is no. but I dont know that.

[JAFF]

My guess is no. but I dont know that.

Because the virus mutates, you can catch it more than once, so I doubt it would get them a pass

If this nation cant get its shit together, this virus will become chronic like the seasonal flu. It wont go away unless we crush it under the heel of mass vaccination

[Hoopsdoc]

Because the virus mutates, you can catch it more than once, so I doubt it would get them a pass

If this nation cant get its shit together, this virus will become chronic like the seasonal flu. It wont go away unless we crush it under the heel of mass vaccination

It’s not going away anyway.

[JAFF]

It’s not going away anyway.

We eliminated small pox and polio, and are very close to eliminating mumps, meseals, and rubella. This can be done, with or without the anti vaxers. Artificial selection will remove the people who rely on horse medicine

[Hoopsdoc]

We eliminated small pox and polio, and are very close to eliminating mumps, meseals, and rubella. This can be done, with or without the anti vaxers. Artificial selection will remove the people who rely on horse medicine

COVID-19 is more comparable to the flu than it is small pox and polio. It’s not going anywhere.

[Oldcolt]

COVID-19 is more comparable to the flu than it is small pox and polio. It’s not going anywhere.

It has to do with the rate of mutations between them. Small pox and polio are relatively stable so once a vaccine is made it works. Flu and COVID mutate into new strains continuously. This is most likely with us long term.

[Workhorse]

They just activated Wentz, Kelly, and Pascal from the Covid list.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

They just activated Wentz, Kelly, and Pascal from the Covid list.


To open up these 3 roster spots, the Colts placed WR TY Hilton, WR Dezmon Patmon and QB Sam Ehlinger on the IR.

[nate505]

They just activated Wentz, Kelly, and Pascal from the Covid list.

Aren't they sidelined for 5 days (ie two more days), or can they be activated from the list whenever but still have to sit out another couple days.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

I was wondering if it might motivate these guys to get vaccinated once they feel the consequences and see the effect it will have in the team. COVID is rampant throughout the country. It seems impossible that players won’t come in contact with COVID positive individuals. It was theoretical, it isn’t anymore

Keefer indicated that a few vaccine hesitant players recently decided to get the shot(s). Not sure if it was spurred when Fisher / Nelson went on the COVID reserve list or when Wentz / Kelly / Pascal went on the list. Those moves showed that it was rather easy to miss 5 days of work just by being a close contact with someone who was infected.

https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1433439456997040132

Mentioned this on the air with Kevin Bowen and Gregg Doyel this morning: I'd expect the Colts vaccination rate to climb in the coming days/weeks. Have heard a handful of players have decided to get the shot. Before you ask, I don't have names.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Aren't they sidelined for 5 days (ie two more days), or can they be activated from the list whenever but still have to sit out another couple days.

The 5 day period starts from the initial point of contact with the infected person. In this particular case, the exposure happened last weekend.

[JAFF]

The 5 day period starts from the initial point of contact with the infected person. In this particular case, the exposure happened this last weekend.

Sssssssssshhhhhhhhhhh. Stop talking about U NO WHAT!

[Luck4Reich]

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup, not looking good thats for sure. I was so disappointed when I heard they picked him up. Mr. Glass.

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Interesting First.... Last.... And only post.... Butt hurt Eagles fan are we? Just looks that way lol

[Jerryklimczuk]

Interesting First.... Last.... And only post.... Butt hurt Eagles fan are we? Just looks that way lol[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]I hate the Eagles. New to the group so spending more time reading than posting. After all, it's better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and dispel all doubt.
Thanks for your observation Sherlock.

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[Luck4Reich]

[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]I hate the Eagles. New to the group so spending more time reading than posting. After all, it's better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and dispel all doubt.
Thanks for your observation Sherlock.

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Well welcome to Freaks. I had hoped I was wrong.

BTW MR Glass has played the last 2 seasons and hasn't missed a game due to injury.. so there is that.

[Jerryklimczuk]

Well welcome to Freaks. I had hoped I was wrong.



BTW MR Glass has played the last 2 seasons and hasn't missed a game due to injury.. so there is that.Meh, still don't like him....lol.

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[Jerryklimczuk]

Well welcome to Freaks. I had hoped I was wrong.



BTW MR Glass has played the last 2 seasons and hasn't missed a game due to injury.. so there is that.Also, thanks for the welcome.

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[Colts And Orioles]

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The first hit of the 2021 season goes to ........ the Dallas Cowboys.



Cowboys RG Zack Martin Tests Positive for COVID-19, will Miss Season Opener vs. Buccaneers

(By Michael Gehlken)

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2021/09/05/cowboys-rg-zack-martin-tests-positive-for-covid-19-will-miss-season-opener-vs-buccaneers/

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[Chromeburn]

Mac Jones and Justin Fields have both looked good. I liked Jones, might be too immobile for Reich though. Reportedly they had interest in Fields. Him playing Lawrence would have been fun to watch twice a year.