Strachan

[Oldcolt]

This guy appears to be the real deal. I know people will say it is to early but I am on this bandwagon big time. The guy hasn't played football for over a year and even then it was Div II. He looked great in preseason game, going up high to snag that throw was something innate. Can't teach that and to find it in a 6 5 225 wide receiver is amazing. He runs routes pretty well for someone with almost no experience, is fast and catches the ball with his hands. On top of that it is reported he is getting reps with the first string. So glad we didn't go for any of those high priced free agents.

[Hoopsdoc]

I was just as impressed with Patmon.

[Oldcolt]

I was just as impressed with Patmon.

I was impressed but in a different way. Strachan seems like a different animal, one that if he continues to develop could be a game changer. Patmon looked great but not quite as athletic to me. I want to keep them both. They wouldn't make it through waivers. It is great that these are going to be difficult decisions, something we haven't really had for years.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

I was just as impressed with Patmon.

The Colts must really like the potential of Patmon as well - they kept him "protected" on the 53 man roster all last season - even when he was listed as Inactive for almost every game day.

[Chromeburn]

Hilton
Cambell
Pittman
Pascal
________
Dulin - special teams ace

Leaves about one spot if the have six.

[TheMugwump]

Hilton
Cambell
Pittman
Pascal
________
Dulin - special teams ace

Leaves about one spot if the have six.

Not sure Dulin makes it, but if he does, I think they keep seven (Strachan and Patmon as well as the four above). Then I hope they stash Vaughns and Harris, and maybe Black, on the PS. Not sure Harris makes it throught the waiver process, but Vaughns and Black should.

[Hoopsdoc]

Hilton
Cambell
Pittman
Pascal
________
Dulin - special teams ace

Leaves about one spot if the have six.

I’m not sure Pascal is 100 percent secure. Depends on how much they like Patmon and Strachan.

To be clear, I’m not saying Pascal gets cut-I just think it’s a possibility.

[daedge]

The Colts must really like the potential of Patmon as well - they kept him "protected" on the 53 man roster all last season - even when he was listed as Inactive for almost every game day.

I really liked the Patmon pick last year. Obviously, he wasn't helped by the diluted off-season and no pre-season games, but he is someone I'd hate to see let go. That said, Strachan excites me even more.

As for Pascal, no way they cut him.

[Oldcolt]

Both Strachan and Patmon were tried as gunners today in practice. They had trouble getting off the line according to Indy Star. To me this means that they want to keep both of these guys. I hope so

[Racehorse]

Both Strachan and Patmon were tried as gunners today in practice. They had trouble getting off the line according to Indy Star. To me this means that they want to keep both of these guys. I hope so

They seem to have a much higher ceiling than Dulin.

[Chromeburn]

Pascal is making the 53. Most ive read is that Dulin should as well. Those last spots are really specials teams guys.

I don’t know if Strachn and Patmon would see the field unless there were injuries. Hilton and Pascals contracts are up next year though.

[JAFF]

I’m not sure Pascal is 100 percent secure. Depends on how much they like Patmon and Strachan.

To be clear, I’m not saying Pascal gets cut-I just think it’s a possibility.

Pascal made big plays and scores all last year. He is not getting cut. Hes the one sure player.

[Luck4Reich]

Strachan is is getting first team reps now.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.stampedeblue.com/platform/amp/2021/8/18/22630698/colts-michael-strachan-now-receiving-first-team-reps-in-training-camp

Also saw he is getting noticed by a lot of older star WRs.... Reggie being one of them that are impressed.

[Chromeburn]

Strachan is is getting first team reps now.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.stampedeblue.com/platform/amp/2021/8/18/22630698/colts-michael-strachan-now-receiving-first-team-reps-in-training-camp

Also saw he is getting noticed by a lot of older star WRs.... Reggie being one of them that are impressed.

Apparently he is Michael Irvin’s god son

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

With all the hype about Strachan, someone asked Zak Keefer what he still needs to work on.

Keefer relayed that question to WR Coach Mike Groh and this was his answer. Not a surprising development need for a small school rookie.

https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1428412995248472067

Asked Mike Groh about this today. He's had a good camp, but his command of the scheme and all of his routes will need to improve, and he's only learned 1 WR position (Reich likes his guys to know all of them). "Still wait and see," Groh said. "We're all hopeful."

[rcubed]

With all the hype about Strachan, someone asked Zak Keefer what he still needs to work on.

Keefer relayed that question to WR Coach Mike Groh and this was his answer. Not a surprising development need for a small school rookie.

https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1428412995248472067
but...but...but... I read he is the second coming of randy moss!

[apballin]

Practice squad maybe? Hold on to him in case of an injury

[Butter]

Practice squad maybe? Hold on to him in case of an injury

I am not sure he would make it to the PS, a guy with his measurables and looking decent pre-season? We will know a lot more after a few more preseason games, but if he's seeing time with the 1's Reich must see something in him.

[Luck4Reich]

Practice squad maybe? Hold on to him in case of an injury

He would get snatched up so fast and leave us pissed off when he is killing it for another team..... I get all the blah blah blah... Another hyped guy like Cain.... No this guy is getting noticed by coaches and ex players and current players.... The guy is going to be good with a chance of greatness..

[Oldcolt]

Neither Patmon nor Stachan would make it through waivers. Says a whole lot about how this roster is being built. Tough decisions

[Luck4Reich]

Neither Patmon nor Stachan would make it through waivers. Says a whole lot about how this roster is being built. Tough decisions

We will have 1-2 WR cuts that will sign with another team.. mark it! Good position to be in compared to past few years... The staff put in some work looking for WR talent.

[YDFL Commish]

I wouldn't be surprised if we trade a WR before the season starts. Granted it will probably be for no more than a 4th pick at the very most. But I could see it happening.

Pascal would be my best guess.

[Oldcolt]

I hope we don't trade Pascal. He is a tough SOB who helps set the tone with his blocking etc. I love players like him.

[Hoopsdoc]

I didn’t realize Pascal is only 26. Seems like he’s been around forever.

[Hoopsdoc]

He would get snatched up so fast and leave us pissed off when he is killing it for another team..... I get all the blah blah blah... Another hyped guy like Cain.... No this guy is getting noticed by coaches and ex players and current players.... The guy is going to be good with a chance of greatness..

Strachan, you notice him. You notice him right away. He is one big fast dude.

Cain was the definition of a jag.

[Voosh]

I think Strachan makes the team. I've seen nothing but positive reports from the beat writers and even Reggie Wayne has taken notice.

[Butter]

I wouldn't be surprised if we trade a WR before the season starts. Granted it will probably be for no more than a 4th pick at the very most. But I could see it happening.

Pascal would be my best guess.

I have been wondering about that as well, would rather flip a guy for a day 3 that let him get snatched off waivers before he can hit the PS.

[JAFF]

I have been wondering about that as well, would rather flip a guy for a day 3 that let him get snatched off waivers before he can hit the PS.

Pascal is the one WR other than Hilton who has shown he has the ability to make plays in games that count. And I believe he can return punts. They trade him, there ia a lot of unproven talent with a new Qb, (who ever plays) and a big question about the left side of the O line.

[Chromeburn]

We aren’t trading Pascal. He was our number 1 receiver at times last year and the only guy who really stayed healthy. Strachan seems to have the edge for the last spot. Then they have to decide if they want to keep Dulin or Patmon. ST coach will likely want Dulin.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Both Strachan and Patmon were tried as gunners today in practice. They had trouble getting off the line according to Indy Star. To me this means that they want to keep both of these guys. I hope so


The Colts could keep both Strachan and Patmon with neither in the gunner role (although that would certainly help).

If you look at last year's opening day roster, the Colts kept 6 WR's and 7 LB's. They could flip those two numbers this year and keep 7 WR's and 6 LB's. Considering that LB Anthony Walker signed with the Browns in the off season, there is sort of an opening to reach that sort of decision.

[Chromeburn]

The Colts could keep both Strachan and Patmon with neither in the gunner role (although that would certainly help).

If you look at last year's opening day roster, the Colts kept 6 WR's and 7 LB's. They could flip those two numbers this year and keep 7 WR's and 6 LB's. Considering that LB Anthony Walker signed with the Browns in the off season, there is sort of an opening to reach that sort of decision.

LB is also a big source of special teamers. Also don’t forget Ballard wants to keep more D and O linemen because of the extended season. Here is Bowen’s 53 guess. And I agree with it also.

https://www.1075thefan.com/kevins-sports-news/colts/colts-53-man-roster-projection-following-first-preseason-game-2/

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

LB is also a big source of special teamers. Also don’t forget Ballard wants to keep more D and O linemen because of the extended season. Here is Bowen’s 53 guess. And I agree with it also.

https://www.1075thefan.com/kevins-sports-news/colts/colts-53-man-roster-projection-following-first-preseason-game-2/


Bowen agreed with me and only projected 6 LB's on his final roster.

I don't see the Colts keeping 10 O Linemen. Yes, there are injuries. Week 1 availability is uncertain at this time. And the Colts need to make sure that there is enough depth available to play in the first game in case of an in game injury.

However, the Colts could elevate 2 players from the Practice Squad to the game day roster to supplement the 53 man roster. I guess I am already envisioning the Colts elevating 2 OL in Week 1.

The final number of O Linemen will likely depend on how Ryan Kelly and Big Q respond over the next 10 days or so.

[Butter]

Pascal is the one WR other than Hilton who has shown he has the ability to make plays in games that count. And I believe he can return punts. They trade him, there ia a lot of unproven talent with a new Qb, (who ever plays) and a big question about the left side of the O line.

I never mentioned trading Pascal. Commish did,

[Oldcolt]

I'm with those who want us to keep 7 WR. We need Dulin for ST. Both Strachan and Patmon could turn into long term answers at WR, the key term being could. I doubt either makes it thru waivers so I see both on the 53 man squad. I have a modicum of hope that one of them will turn out to be a player.

[Chromeburn]

Bowen agreed with me and only projected 6 LB's.

I don't see the Colts keeping 10 O Lineman. Yes, there are injuries. Week 1 availability is uncertain at this time. And the Colts need to make sure that there is enough depth available to play in the first game in case of an in game injury.

However, the Colts could elevate 2 players from the Practice Squad to the game day roster to supplement the 53 man roster. I guess I am already envisioning the Colts elevating 2 OL in Week 1.

The final number of O Lineman will probably depend on how Ryan Kelly and Big Q respond over the next 10 days or so.

LT is the biggest issue. We didn’t adequately address the depth there. But I will say this is pretty difficult to do. No team has good depth at tackle. They are too in demand. You would have to spend a high draft pick on the position to really get some depth. Still we will have to see who gets cut out there. Might be able to find someone.

Skai Moore is a potential 7th at LB. he has always been a good ST player and adequate backup.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Skai Moore is a potential 7th at LB. he has always been a good ST player and adequate backup.

I agree that Skai Moore contributed a lot in 2018 in his first year with the Colts and can be a good ST player.

However, he didn't make the final roster in his second year and was on the practice squad for most of 2019. He played in one game that season with a total of 7 snaps.

He then opted out of 2020 due to COVID.

I would think it would be a fairly safe bet for him to clear waivers and the Colts could sign him back to the practice squad.

Although there is the added wrinkle that a lot of former coaches and staff are now on the Eagles coaching staff. They may look to bolster the Eagles roster with some familiar faces who have already bought into the scheme.

[rcubed]

If they have to choose between patmon, dulin, and strachan, my guess is they try to get patmon onto the practice squad and hope no one grabs him.

[Oldcolt]

If they have to choose between patmon, dulin, and strachan, my guess is they try to get patmon onto the practice squad and hope no one grabs him.

Weren't the Colts so concerned that Patmon wouldn't make it through wavers last year that they kept him on the 53 all year?

[rcubed]

Weren't the Colts so concerned that Patmon wouldn't make it through wavers last year that they kept him on the 53 all year?
I think so, but wasnt he also inactive for every game? if it comes down to it and they have to try to stash a WR (or cut), who's it gonna be?

[Oldcolt]

I think so, but wasnt he also inactive for every game? if it comes down to it and they have to try to stash a WR (or cut), who's it gonna be?

I hope they keep all three but if one has to go, and both Patmon and Strachan continue to impress, I'd say Dulin. He isn't going to be here in 5 years and if Patmon and Stachan hit they will be here long term. It is a great problem to have, one we will be having much more of in the future, hopefully.

[Luck4Reich]

Let's not forget Tyler Vaughn's...... Damn gone be some tough WR cuts!!!

[Oldcolt]

I am now hoping we keep Stachan, Dulin and Patmon. I would like us to cut Erhlinger instead of taking the chance that one of those guys would clear waiver (I am almost certain they wouldn't). I feel fairly certain Erhlinger would clear waivers and even if he didn't it would not be a huge loss. If we are counting on him to win, we would be in big trouble. The other three either will help us this year and/or have much greater upsides.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

I am now hoping we keep Stachan, Dulin and Patmon. I would like us to cut Erhlinger instead of taking the chance that one of those guys would clear waiver (I am almost certain they wouldn't). I feel fairly certain Erhlinger would clear waivers and even if he didn't it would not be a huge loss. If we are counting on him to win, we would be in big trouble. The other three either will help us this year and/or have much greater upsides.


Yeah, it will be interesting to see if the Colts keep 2 or 3 QB's on the final roster.

Prior to Wentz's foot issue, the answer was probably 2 QB's.

When Wentz was out, the answer had to be 3 QB's.

Now I am not sure - need to see how Wentz's foot responds over the next week to back-to-back practices and ramping up his workload.

[Oldcolt]

I thought you could bring up players from your practice squad on game day because of the increase in games this year. We get like 57 (?) active players so if you wanted Ehrlinger active (now sure why you would want that) he could be.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

I thought you could bring up players from your practice squad on game day because of the increase in games this year. We get like 57 (?) active players so if you wanted Ehrlinger active (now sure why you would want that) he could be.


Last year the Colts carried 3 QB's the entire season. They wanted to protect Eason and not expose him to the waiver wire. It would be the same question here - do you want to protect Ehlinger or expose him to the waiver wire and hope he makes it to the practice squad. I think chances are low that any team makes a waiver claim (the chances might be near zero if Ehlinger throws another INT or two during the next preseason game).

Teams will need to reach 53 players on the final cutdown day. Yes, the COVID-related roster rules have been extended this year and teams can elevate up to 2 practice squad players to the active game day roster resulting in a total of 55 players.

[Chromeburn]

I think Strachan has the 5th spot earned

Dulin is likely 6th due to his ST play.

Patmon is likely the odd man out. I give it 50/50 that he clears waivers. They protected him all last year bc they like him.

[Oldcolt]

I think Strachan has the 5th spot earned

Dulin is likely 6th due to his ST play.

Patmon is likely the odd man out. I give it 50/50 that he clears waivers. They protected him all last year bc they like him.

I feel the same way about Strachan and Dulin. Patmon has shown quite a bit as a possession receiver, coupled with the fact that they didn't want him on waivers last year bad enough to keep him on the 53 all year makes me wonder if the Colts are now willing to give him up. I can make an argument for any of these three. I don't get the argument to keep Ehrlinger. I actually don't see one.

[TheMugwump]

I think Strachan has the 5th spot earned

Dulin is likely 6th due to his ST play.

Patmon is likely the odd man out. I give it 50/50 that he clears waivers. They protected him all last year bc they like him.

I think they keep 7 WR.

[Chromeburn]

I think they keep 7 WR.

That’s a lot. Guess we will see soon.

[TheMugwump]

That’s a lot. Guess we will see soon.

No doubt no doubt. I may be looking with my heart, because I like all those guys.

Plus they better stash Vaughns on the PS.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

https://twitter.com/jimayello/status/1431443719409049601

Mike Strachan on strengths: "I used my size to my advantage, my speed, my ability to track down the ball."

https://twitter.com/jimayello/status/1431443908337221634

Mike Strachan asked if he did enough to make the Colts roster: "I gave it all I had, and I'm hoping for the best."