2021 NFL Draft thread - Day 1 discussion

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Round 1 starts tonight at 8 Eastern / 7 Central.

TV: ABC, ESPN, NFL Network
Stream: fuboTV, NFL app

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1387795364674252803

One storyline to watch over the next three days: The value of 2022 Draft picks is sky high. “Like gold,” as one executive described. There should be more talent, cleaner evaluations, more tape. We could see an all-time low of future picks dealt.

[TheMugwump]

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1387795364674252803

This will be interesting, but my guess is that it's an over-rated storyline. There is enough tape to make decent evaluations for most of the draftable players this year. Maybe it's not recent tape, and not as much as in the past, but I'll wager that the league's stronger scouting departments will be fine. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see Ballard get one or two picks this year for weaker picks next year, because he trusts his group to get it right, and other GMs may be panicky.

[nate505]

Oh boy, draft night! Which for the Colts means the excitement of waiting for the to see what the Colts trade down for.

I kid, I kid...kind of.

[rcubed]

Oh boy, draft night! Which for the Colts means the excitement of waiting for the to see what the Colts trade down for.

I kid, I kid...kind of.
yeah, I really liked ballard's last press conference where he said "talk to you friday"

[Chromeburn]

The only benefit of having that 1st rounder is the 5th year extension which would be nice to have on a LT or pass rusher.

Saints are also rumored trying to trade into the top 10

Also here is the breakdown of who the experts predicted us to draft. Stole from reddit, not sure where he stole it from, maybe indystar

Jaelen Phillips, EDGE (Miami) - 13 selections: Glynn Morgan (NBC Sports), Charlie Campbell (Walter Football), Dan Kadar (Akron Beacon Journal), Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports), Seth Trachtman (Yardbarker), Sam Farmer (Los Angeles Times), Chris Simms (NBC Sports), Nate Bouda (NFL Trade Rumors), Derrik Klassen (Football Outsiders), Thor Nystrom (NBC Sports EDGE), Josh Edwards (CBS Sports), Bucky Brooks (NFL.com), Mel Kiper Jr (ESPN)

Azeez Ojulari, EDGE (Georgia) - 11 selections: Staff (Pro Football Focus), Mike Tanier (Pro Football Network), Rhett Lewis (NFL.com), Peter Schrager (NFL.com), Staff (USA Today), Eddie Brown (San Diego Union Tribune), Danny Kelly (The Ringer), Albert Breer (Sports Illustrated), Staff (Draftwire), Ben Allbright (Pro Football Network), Tony Pauline (Pro Football Network)

Teven Jenkins, OT (Oklahoma State) - 10 selections: Ryan Wilson (CBS Sports), Charles Davis (NFL.com), NFL Staff (Draft Kings), Kevin Hanson (EDS Football), Calvin Watkins (Dallas Morning News), John McClain (Houston Chronicle), Ryan McChrystal (Sharp Football Analysis), Jenny Vrentas (Sports Illustrated), Staff (DraftBlaster), Zak Keefer (The Athletic)

Samuel Cosmi, OT (Texas) - 6 selections: Peter King (NBC Sports), Dean Kindig (DraftTek), Lance Cartelli (Lines.com), Josh Norris (Underdog Fantasy), Michael Fabiano (Sports Illustrated), Joe DeTullion (The Game Haus)

Kwity Paye, EDGE (Michigan) - 5 selections: Omar Kelly (Miami Sun Sentinal), Zach Hicks (SB Nation), C.J. Doon (Baltimore Sun), Pete Prisco (CBS Sports), Mike Wells (ESPN)

Christian Darrisaw, OT (Virginia Tech) - 4 selections: Vinnie Iyer (Sporting News), Maurice Jones-Drew (NFL.com), Luke Easterling (Draftwire), Jon Ledyard (Pewter Report)

Alex Leatherwood, OT (Alabama) - 2 selections: Stephen Holder (The Athletic), Staff (Alpha Football)

Caleb Farley, CB (Virginia Tech) - 2 selections: Paul Banks (The Sports Bank), John Daigle (NBC Sports EDGE)

Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT (USC) - 1 selection: Jack Borowsky (Sports Illustrated)

Carlos Basham Jr, EDGE (Wake Forest) - 1 selection: Will Brinson (CBS Sports)

Elijah Moore, WR (Ole Miss) - 1 selection: Chris Trapasso (CBS Sports)

Eric Stokes, CB (Georgia) - 1 selection: Nick Klopsis (Newsday)

Greg Newsome II, CB (Northwestern) - 1 selection: Trevor Sikkema (The Draft Network)

Gregory Rousseau, EDGE (Miami) - 1 selection: Bryan Fischer (Athlon Sports)

Jaycee Horn, CB (South Carolina) - 1 selection: Matt Miller (The Draft Scout)

Joe Tryon, EDGE (Washington) - 1 selection: Daniel Jeremiah (NFL.com)

Kadarius Toney, WR (Florida) - 1 selection: Charlie Casserly (NFL.com)

Liam Eichenberg, OT (Notre Dame) - 1 selection: Chad Reuter (NFL.com)

Jayson Oweh, EDGE (Penn State) - 1 selection: Matt Lombardo (Fansided)

Rashod Bateman, WR (Minnesota) - 1 selection: Staff (Tankathon)

Trevor Moehrig, S (TCU) - 1 selection: Walter Cherepinsky (Walter Football)

[Dam8610]

Oh boy, draft night! Which for the Colts means the excitement of waiting for the to see what the Colts trade down for.

I kid, I kid...kind of.

I'd actually like to see a trade down or 2. Maybe something like:

Saints get: 21

Colts get: 28, 98, 105

Then:

Jets get: 28

Colts get: 34, 66

Dropping down 13 picks in this scenario would give the Colts 34, 54, 66, 98, and 105, or likely 2 of the top 50, 3 of the top 75, and 5 of the top 100 players in this draft. I think if you don't get Jenkins or Phillips, this is probably the best play.

[Puck]

RAS. Scores. if interested

https://relativeathleticscores.com/2021/01/23/2021-draft-class-ras/

[Dam8610]

Also I said I'd do an OT ranking. No discussion, but here it is:

01) Rashawn Slater
02) Teven Jenkins
03) Christian Darrisaw
04) Liam Eichenberg
05) Samuel Cosmi
06) Penei Sewell
07) Dillon Radunz
08) Jalen Mayfield
09) Walker Little
10) Brady Christensen
11) Alex Leatherwood
12) Stone Forsythe
13) Spencer Brown
14) James Hudson

This is just the players I watched personally, and I'll happily give a justification for each ranking if asked. Answering one ahead of time, I know I previously ranked Sewell much lower, the increase in rank says nothing about his tape and everything about his age, build, and potential. To be clear, based on the Colts needing a Day 1 starter, I would not draft Sewell for them were he available, and if Cincinnati drafts him at 5, they won't be doing Joe Burrow any favors in the first year. Perhaps down the line, but I don't think Sewell is a game 1 starter based on his film. I took Vera-Tucker out because IMO he's a guard. His kickstep is too labored and forced to stick at LT, and he can't handle speed.

[apballin]

Eichenberg over Cosmi?

[Dam8610]

Eichenberg over Cosmi?

Tape over measureables.

[Puck]

Also I said I'd do an OT ranking. No discussion, but here it is:

01) Rashawn Slater
02) Teven Jenkins
03) Christian Darrisaw
04) Liam Eichenberg
05) Samuel Cosmi
06) Penei Sewell
07) Dillon Radunz
08) Jalen Mayfield
09) Walker Little
10) Brady Christensen
11) Alex Leatherwood
12) Stone Forsythe
13) Spencer Brown
14) James Hudson

This is just the players I watched personally, and I'll happily give a justification for each ranking if asked. Answering one ahead of time, I know I previously ranked Sewell much lower, the increase in rank says nothing about his tape and everything about his age, build, and potential. To be clear, based on the Colts needing a Day 1 starter, I would not draft Sewell for them were he available, and if Cincinnati drafts him at 5, they won't be doing Joe Burrow any favors in the first year. Perhaps down the line, but I don't think Sewell is a game 1 starter based on his film. I took Vera-Tucker out because IMO he's a guard. His kickstep is too labored and forced to stick at LT, and he can't handle speed.


From your list I'd go this is the order This is how I think they come off the board

1. Penei Sewell
2. Rashawn Slater
3. Christian Darrisaw
4 Walker Little
5. Dillon Radunz
6. Tevin Jenkins
7. Liam Eichenberg
8. Spencer Brown
9. Samuel Cosmi

[smitty46953]

I watch more Notre Dame games than others, I really like Eichenberg. :cool:

[Dam8610]

From your list I'd go this is the order This is how I think they come off the board

1. Penei Sewell
2. Rashawn Slater
3. Christian Darrisaw
4 Walker Little
5. Dillon Radunz
6. Tevin Jenkins
7. Liam Eichenberg
8. Spencer Brown
9. Samuel Cosmi

Walker Little has too many question marks to go that high, I don't care how prototypical his build is. Also Jenkins going that low would likely mean Round 2 and I don't see that happening, nor Radunz coming off the board before him. Your list does show how potential pushes players up draft boards, though.

[Puck]

Walker Little has too many question marks to go that high, I don't care how prototypical his build is. Also Jenkins going that low would likely mean Round 2 and I don't see that happening, nor Radunz coming off the board before him. Your list does show how potential pushes players up draft boards, though.

I think Jenkin is taken by Raiders as a guard

Little is very intriguing. Probably the most talented

Cosmi doesn't have as much ceiling as the others although he is pretty decent now.

I think the value of the OT's is in the 2nd round. Most are 1st round reaches.

JMO. I'm sure I could be wrong

[Dam8610]

I think Jenkin is taken by Raiders as a guard

Little is very intriguing. Probably the most talented

Cosmi doesn't have as much ceiling as the others although he is pretty decent now.

I think the value of the OT's is in the 2nd round. Most are 1st round reaches.

JMO. I'm sure I could be wrong

Jenkins as a guard would be such a waste. The athleticism and technical skill is much better suited outside.

[JAFF]

Tape over measureables.

Well shit. We agree.

[Puck]

My quick rankings by position of need.




CB. This is going to be a much higher priority than most people think.

1. Patrick Surtain
2. Jaycee Horn. My favorite player
3. Greg Newsome
4. Caleb Farley



OT. Same as I posted above

1. Penei Sewell
2. Rashawn Slater
3. Christian Darrisaw
4 Walker Little
5. Dillon Radunz
6. Tevin Jenkins
7. Liam Eichenberg
8. Spencer Brown
9. Samuel Cosmi


WR.

1. DeVonta Smith
2. Ja'Marr Chase
3. Jaylen Waddle
4. Rashod Bateman
5. Rondale Moore
6. Kadarius Toney
7. Terrace Marshall Jr.

Edge Very weak class at the top. Probably 4th rounder here


1. Kwity Paye
2. Jaelan Phillips
3. Joe Tryon. OLB but could play DE
4. Gregory Rousseau
5. Azeez Ojulari
6. Carlos Basham Jr.
7. Micah Parsons
8. Jayson Oweh


TE. Only really 3 that I've seen. This is a very big need IMO unless they trade for Ertz

1. Kyle Pitts. I think he may be the best player in the draft behind Lawerence
2. Pat Freiermuth
3. Tommy Tremble

LB Only one I care about is Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah and I would absolutely love the Colts to take him at 21 but he wont be there

I would not at all be surprised by a safety early.


As always JMO

[daedge]

Beers and ribs sorted.
Lets go.

[TheMugwump]

I'd actually like to see a trade down or 2. Maybe something like:

Saints get: 21

Colts get: 28, 98, 105

Then:

Jets get: 28

Colts get: 34, 66

Dropping down 13 picks in this scenario would give the Colts 34, 54, 66, 98, and 105, or likely 2 of the top 50, 3 of the top 75, and 5 of the top 100 players in this draft. I think if you don't get Jenkins or Phillips, this is probably the best play.

If Indy could turn the 21st pick into five out of the top 100 by trading back only 13 picks total? Total Ballard move too.

[TheMugwump]

From your list I'd go this is the order This is how I think they come off the board

1. Penei Sewell
2. Rashawn Slater
3. Christian Darrisaw
4 Walker Little
5. Dillon Radunz
6. Tevin Jenkins
7. Liam Eichenberg
8. Spencer Brown
9. Samuel Cosmi

If Colts trade back and get any of those nine (plus at least a pick in the third, if not more), then I'll be a happy fan.

[Racehorse]

I know Rondale Moore is a talent, but I am not sure I want him in the 'shoe. His decision to opt out and his injury history are two huge red flags for me.

[Chromeburn]

I think we trade back to get a pick in the third or a 2022 pick, and I think we take Raddunz at LT. Then a CB like Asante Samuel Jr, then a pass rusher like Elerson SMith or Payton Turner..

[Puck]

I think we trade back to get a pick in the third or a 2022 pick, and I think we take Raddunz at LT. Then a CB like Asante Samuel Jr, then a pass rusher like Elerson SMith or Payton Turner..

Not sure how far you think this trade back will go but Raddunz will probably be there are 54. If he's the BPA then yea take him.


The only way I see Ballard setting a priority for a position is if there is a run on LT's in the draft. Otherwise he'll probably get one at 54 who will be BPA

I too want him to trade back and get a couple more picks. But he still needs to take BPA that is not a position of NON need like QB RB OG OC All other positions need upgraded.

He already said he is not going to force a pick for a position of need.


I Think even in the middle of the 2nd the value will be WR and CB.

I've had a long day today so I hope he trades back and does it early

[Chromeburn]

Not sure how far you think this trade back will go but Raddunz will probably be there are 54. If he's the BPA then yea take him.


The only way I see Ballard setting a priority for a position is if there is a run on LT's in the draft. Otherwise he'll probably get one at 54 who will be BPA

I too want him to trade back and get a couple more picks. But he still needs to take BPA that is not a position of NON need like QB RB OG OC All other positions need upgraded.

He already said he is not going to force a pick for a position of need.


I Think even in the middle of the 2nd the value will be WR and CB.

I've had a long day today so I hope he trades back and does it early

I think the value of senior Bowl players has gone up bc of covid. I expect Radunz to go late 1st to mid second. He may say that. But if he doesn’t draft a LT high then he better get Erik Fisher on the phone. Also in a risky year taking an offensive lineman is a safe move with a low bust rate. If Vera Tucker is there I think we take him, the gap between tackle and guard has shrunk a lot over the years.

WR is a super risky position. 40% of 1st round receivers have not had a 1000 yard season.

[Chromeburn]

BTW Ballard is on Pat Mcafree's show now

[Puck]

BTW Ballard is on Pat Mcafree's show now

If he's on there now then they have already traded the pick I would guess

[Racehorse]

I hate all of the wait for the first pick. They know what they are going to do, so make the pick already.

Edit: I don't even see the clock for the Jags.

[Brylok]

I fully expect the Colts to trade back for more picks. I'll check in from time to time. Have fun y'all!

[Racehorse]

Is Smitty going to call all of the picks early again this year?

[Brylok]

I hate all of the wait for the first pick. They know what they are going to do, so make the pick already.

Edit: I don't even see the clock for the Jags.

Is there anything the NFL can't over-produce and stuff full of commercials? The answer is obviously "no".

[Brylok]

And here's the Douchebags of Leon. Smh. I'm out.

[Spike]

Come on Jackoffs, everyone knows who you are taking, make the fucking pick already.

[Racehorse]

Come on Jackoffs, everyone knows who you are taking, make the fucking pick already.

Garrard?

[JAFF]

Come on Jackoffs, everyone knows who you are taking, make the fucking pick already.

The kid from Alabama? :eek:

[Racehorse]

Come on Jackoffs, everyone knows who you are taking, make the fucking pick already.

They wait til the last minute and celebrate? Morons!

[Spike]

The kid from Alabama? :eek:

I hope so!

[Racehorse]

Is it just me, or does Lawrence carry himself like a dickhead?

[JAFF]

Is it just me, or does Lawrence carry himself like a dickhead?

Its the hair.

[Racehorse]

Its the hair.

Yes, and the T-shirt with a suit

[TheMugwump]

Is it just me, or does Lawrence carry himself like a dickhead?

It's not just you.

[NextManUp]

Is it just me, or does Lawrence carry himself like a dickhead?

He is Jeff Spicoli in a football jersey.

[JAFF]

He is Jeff Spicoli in a football jersey.

Lolololol. Killing me Smalls

[Spike]

Really curious about the 49ers. Most people think it will be Jones which I think would be a mistake. Trading 3 1st round picks for a Kirk Cousins clone.

[Spike]

Fucking Jets wasting more time. Wilson, dumb fucks, just turn it in.

[Racehorse]

Wilson looks 14 years old. Not even the first facial hair

[TheMugwump]

So who's the pick for the Niners? I say it is Jones.

[Spike]

Wilson says there is not another team he wants to play for than the Jets. Typical BS from this 14 year old. Jets to the SB, yeah, right Wilson.

[Racehorse]

Goodell walks as slow as my deceased grandmother.

[Racehorse]

Lance?

[TheMugwump]

Lance?

Wow! Just wow! Is he the next Mahomes? Or the next somebody we all forget about?

[Racehorse]

Wow! Just wow! Is he the next Mahomes? Or the next somebody we all forget about?

Probably the latter. He can outrun college players. NFL players are faster.

Same for Lawrence

[Racehorse]

ATL is getting the stud of the draft, if they take Pitts

[TheMugwump]

Probably the latter. He can outrun college players. NFL players are faster.

Same for Lawrence

I hope so. It would be great if the first five picks are all QB, and if they all bust.

[Racehorse]

I hope so. It would be great if the first five picks are all QB, and if they all bust.

5 of 6 good enough for you?

[Racehorse]

Man, their draft room is fully vaccinated Glad they told us

[smitty46953]

Bengals probably add Ja'Marr Chase ? Burrow gets his old teammate

[TheMugwump]

Bengals probably add Ja'Marr Chase ? Burrow gets his old teammate

Yeah, that smells of keeping the young QB happy. Surprised they didn't go with Sewell.

[Racehorse]

No defensive players taken yet Interesting.

[smitty46953]

Dolphins probably go with Waddle or Smith to re-unite with Tua... :cool:

[Dam8610]

No defensive players taken yet Interesting.

That likely won't happen in the top 10. MAYBE a CB, but that would be at 9 or 10.

[smitty46953]

Like seeing the LT's dropping a bit :cool:

[Dam8610]

Like seeing the LT's dropping a bit :cool:

Would love to see the Chargers take Sewell as first OT off the board at 13.

[TheMugwump]

No defensive players taken yet Interesting.

There may not be the top ten or fifteen. It'll be interesting.

[TheMugwump]

Dolphins probably go with Waddle or Smith to re-unite with Tua... :cool:

Good call.

[Dam8610]

Lions are the first good trade down option.

[smitty46953]

Lions are the first good trade down option.

I think they go Sewell or Slater :cool:

[TheMugwump]

I think they go Sewell or Slater :cool:

Thinking Devonte Smith

[Dam8610]

I think they go Sewell or Slater :cool:

Looks like Sewell.

[Dam8610]

Fields on the board at 8. Does Carolina take him or trade out?

[TheMugwump]

Damn. Sewell went in top 10. OT run coming sooner rather than later.

[smitty46953]

Fields on the board at 8. Does Carolina take him or trade out?

Imagine the phone is ringing

[Dam8610]

I just hope Mac to NE doesn't happen.

[smitty46953]

Panthers go with a DB I imagine, Jaycee Horn :cool:

[Dam8610]

Panthers go with a DB I imagine, Jaycee Horn :cool:

Got the pick a bit early?

[TheMugwump]

No one has traded back yet. When's the first?

[rcubed]

I just hope Mac to NE doesn't happen.


I am over worrying about what pats do.


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[Dam8610]

Denver takes Fields? Then pandemonium for Mac?

[TheMugwump]

Panthers go with a DB I imagine, Jaycee Horn :cool:

Damn, Smitty, you are on a run here. Three in a row.

[rcubed]

No one has traded back yet. When's the first?


At 21?


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[Dam8610]

No one has traded back yet. When's the first?

21st pick

[smitty46953]

Denver takes Fields? Then pandemonium for Mac?

Hope not I have Teddy B in my 32 team dynasty league

[smitty46953]

21st pick

Beat me to it LOL :cool:

[Dam8610]

Hope not I have Teddy B in my 32 team dynasty league

Carolina has Darnold.

[smitty46953]

Carolina has Darnold.

Denver has Teddy B, I don't want them to take a QB

[TheMugwump]

Does Denver go with Fields? Or Smith? If Smith drops out of the top 10, that's a surprise.

Dallas will likely take Parsons, right? Right?

[smitty46953]

Does Denver go with Fields? Or Smith? If Smith drops out of the top 10, that's a surprise.

Dallas will likely take Parsons, right? Right?

I think Dallas will go CB Surtain :cool:

[Dam8610]

Denver has Teddy B, I don't want them to take a QB

When did that happen?

[TheMugwump]

When did that happen?

About six hours ago.

[smitty46953]

When did that happen?

Traded for a 6th yesterday

[Butter]

When did that happen?

yesterday for a 6th

[smitty46953]

Surtain or Parsons to Broncos I hope :cool:

[Dam8610]

Surtain or Parsons to Broncos I hope :cool:

Looks like Surtain?

[Dam8610]

Who trades up to 10 for Fields?

[TheMugwump]

So now who do the Cowboys go with? Or do they take an offer to move back?

[Butter]

Who trades up to 10 for Fields?

Bears?

[Racehorse]

No one has traded back yet. When's the first?

21

[TheMugwump]

Who trades up to 10 for Fields?

Could the WFT take two first round Ohio State QB's in three years? Does Dallas trade in division?

I think the Patriots could be in play here.

[smitty46953]

Dallas phone ringing I imagine :cool:

[Dam8610]

Could the WFT take two first round Ohio State QB's in three years? Does Dallas trade in division?

I think the Patriots could be in play here.

That would suck

[Dam8610]

Dallas phone ringing I imagine :cool:

Eagles trade up?!

[smitty46953]

Dallas phone ringing I imagine :cool:

Dallas traded no.. 10 to Philly for its 1 and third-round pick.

[TheMugwump]

Philly! Wow!

[Butter]

Eagles trade up?!

Interesting Eagles trade with Cowboys.

[Dam8610]

Dallas traded no.. 10 to Philly for its 1 and third-round pick.

Not bad for 2 spots.

[Dam8610]

Who goes up to 11 for Fields?

[Butter]

A 3rd to move up two picks, they must really like somebody

[smitty46953]

Philly! Wow!

Odd, Eagles gave up 12 and 84 for 10. Jumping Giants ? :cool: WR Devonte Smith ?

[TheMugwump]

Who goes up to 11 for Fields?

Chicago?

[Dam8610]

Odd, Eagles gave up 12 and 84 for 10. Jumping Giants ? :cool: WR Devonte Smith ?

Yep

[Dam8610]

This has to be Slater or trade down.

[TheMugwump]

Smith is Marvin Harrison 2.0

[smitty46953]

This has to be Slater or trade down.

Jones or Fields may one or other be there for Pats :cool:

[Dam8610]

Bears trade up?

[Maniac]

Smith is Marvin Harrison 2.0

Absolutely

[smitty46953]

This has to be Slater or trade down.

Bears I bet are calling every team :cool:

[TheMugwump]

So do the Bears take Fields or Jones?

Whoever they take, they'll be wrong.

[Racehorse]

Bears trade up?

Fields?

[Dam8610]

Looks like Mac to NE. Damnit.

[smitty46953]

So do the Bears take Fields or Jones?

Whoever they take, they'll be wrong.

Feel sorry for Fields :cool:

[TheMugwump]

Fields family coming back from celebrating a phone call there?

[smitty46953]

Cost the #Bears pick 20, 164 and a 2022 1st round pick and a 4th round pick. :cool:

[TheMugwump]

Maybe Washington will surprise us and trade up in front of the Patriots to take Jones.

[smitty46953]

Maybe Washington will surprise us and trade up in front of the Patriots to take Jones.

That be good to see happen. :eek:

[Racehorse]

Cost the #Bears pick 20, 164 and a 2022 1st round pick and a 4th round pick. :cool:

Probably had to outbid Belichik

[smitty46953]

Fields to the Bears, did they lie to the "Red Rifle" ? :cool:

[smitty46953]

Probably had to outbid Belichik

When Pace and Nagy get fired the next GM will be short picks starting out :cool:

[Spike]

Just can't stand those arrogant Cowboy fans.

[smitty46953]

Cowboys gotta go with Parsons or Paye

[Dam8610]

Probably had to outbid Belichik

That's not outbid.

[smitty46953]

Chargers will go with Slater, no doubt in my mind :cool:

[TheMugwump]

Well, I got the Parsons to Cowboys pick right, just a few picks later than expected.

Now come on WFT...trade tf up!

[Spike]

8 spots left until the Colts draft and only 1 Offensive lineman taken.

[Thorgrim]

Vikes trade back to a QB starved team?

[TheMugwump]

8 spots left until the Colts draft and only 1 Offensive lineman taken.

Up until now. I think Smitty is right though, Slater is going to San Diego next.

Still, looks good for a trade back and still getting a great LT.

[Butter]

Vikes trade back to a QB starved team?

The only realistic one with a first left is WFT.

[Dam8610]

Vikes trade back to a QB starved team?

I hope so. WFT, Trade up and take Mac from Darth Hoodie.

[Spike]

Looks like Mac to NE. Damnit.

Calm down Dam, Mac is good, but not elite. You will see and there is a reason 4 QB's were chosen over him.

[smitty46953]

I hope so. WFT, Trade up and take Mac from Darth Hoodie.

I think you jinxed Mac earlier this evening :cool:

[Puck]

Calm down Dam, Mac is good, but not elite. You will see and there is a reason 4 QB's were chosen over him.

Vikings will take him right before the Cheats

[Dam8610]

Calm down Dam, Mac is good, but not elite. You will see and there is a reason 4 QB's were chosen over him.

You're wrong. And I'm going to hate the next decade and a half of football if the next 2 picks play out the way I think they will.

[Spike]

Well, Chargers took Slater like we all thought. Never figured he would be available for us anyway. Great pick for the Chargers.

[Spike]

Love that statement that he was the best guard until Q came along.

[smitty46953]

Chargers will go with Slater, no doubt in my mind :cool:

Slater to Chargers great pick

[smitty46953]

Vikes trading back? :cool:

[Thorgrim]

Pats get Mac now

[smitty46953]

Vikes trading back? :cool:

Jets OTC :cool:

Jets traded up from pick 23 to pick 14 with the Vikings. Gave up 23, 66, 86 for 14 and 143.

[rcubed]

I wish the draft had a camera in dams moms basement so we could see him meltdown when New England picks Mac


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[Dam8610]

Bad value for the Jets, and to get Vera Tucker? I'm afraid for Wilson's future.

[smitty46953]

Mac Jones would have been there for the 49ers at No. 12. They could've had Jones and kept their first-round picks the next two years. If it's true that they thought it was close between Lance and Jones, they may be feeling some regret about that trade. :cool:

[Dam8610]

I wish the draft had a camera in dams moms basement so we could see him meltdown when New England picks Mac


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You'd see a bunch of moldy bullshit if you had a camera there, not me.

[smitty46953]

Safe to say Darth Hoodie and the Cheatriots take Mac Jones???

[TheMugwump]

Darrisaw here?

[Spike]

Pats get Mac now

That's fine! A lot of people think Mac is the next Brady which I call BS on.

[Butter]

Jets OTC :cool:

Jets traded up from pick 23 to pick 14 with the Vikings. Gave up 23, 66, 86 for 14 and 143.

Wow, that is a lot for a G, but we spent a lot for Nelson I guess.

[Dam8610]

Safe to say Darth Hoodie and the Cheatriots take Mac Jones???

Yes, because the football gods hate me and love the Cheating Hoodie for some reason.

[Spike]

There goes Vera-Tucker which is ok, we don't need a guard.

[Chromeburn]

Heh I think I said Jones would go 15-25

[Spike]

Pats are going to take the over rated Mac Jones.

[Dam8610]

I now hope Mac has a series of unfortunate injuries and exits the league in 3-5 years. Otherwise, Hoodie the Cheat is only going to go one year without a playoff caliber QB.

[smitty46953]

Cards, Raiders, Dolphins, WFT and Giants in front of Colts yet. All of them except the Cards I think could use OT's :cool:

[Brylok]

Dammit

[TheMugwump]

So now it gets interesting. What direction do the Cardinals go?

WR?
CB?
Safety?

I think they go with Moehrig.

[Dam8610]

Pats are going to take the over rated Mac Jones.

I hope you're right but know you're wrong. All we can hope for is injuries.

[Thorgrim]

Mac Jones is going to flame out in a-hole land. No one to throw to. Feast to famine.

[Dam8610]

Mac Jones is going to flame out in a-hole land. No one to throw to. Feast to famine.

They just got the 2 best TEs in free agency and this draft is loaded with WR talent.

[smitty46953]

So now it gets interesting. What direction do the Cardinals go?

WR?
CB?
Safety?

I think they go with Moehrig.

LB I think? Collins maybe :cool:

[TheMugwump]

LB I think? Collins maybe :cool:

Arizona just did Indy's draft a favor, I think.

[Dam8610]

Raiders go Darrisaw?

[smitty46953]

Arizona just did Indy's draft a favor, I think.

I think you are going see a run on OT's now ? Hope not :eek:

[smitty46953]

Raiders go Darrisaw?

Probably or Jenkins :cool:

[Dam8610]

Wow! Leatherwood! Huge favor by the Raiders.

[smitty46953]

Leatherwood it is, an OT :cool:

[Dam8610]

Could Jenkins AND Phillips be on the board at 21?

[Puck]

WOW. the Raiders are idiots

[TheMugwump]

Wow! Good job, Raiders!

Mel is speechless...

[smitty46953]

Could Jenkins AND Phillips be on the board at 21?

Hope Jenkins is, not a fan of Phillips just due to possible concussion problems. :cool:

[TheMugwump]

Darrisaw, Jenkins, Paye still on the board...interesting.

[smitty46953]

Dolphins gotta grab Darrisaw I imagine :cool:

[rcubed]

Well takes that choice away from us.


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[TheMugwump]

The Dolphins ran to the podium for who?

Darrisaw?

[Butter]

I am thrilled we can no longer take Phillips and his future CTE issues.

[Dam8610]

Darrisaw, Jenkins, Paye still on the board...interesting.

Fuck, Paye is on the board. Quick, someone take him! Miami, do it!

[TheMugwump]

LOL! Glad that the possibility of Phillips is gone.

[smitty46953]

Sweet, Dolphins select Jaelan Phillips, EDGE, Miami FL... :cool:

[Dam8610]

Okay, NYG? Please don't let Paye get to 21.

[Butter]

Okay, NYG? Please don't let Paye get to 21.

You really hate Paye don't you.

[TheMugwump]

Okay, NYG? Please don't let Paye get to 21.

You're not a fan of Paye?

[Dam8610]

You're not a fan of Paye?

Huge potential, no actual knowledge of how to pass rush.

[Puck]

JOK still on the board. That's kinda crazy.

[Dam8610]

JOK still on the board. That's kinda crazy.

Not really

[TheMugwump]

Huge potential, no actual knowledge of how to pass rush.

He wouldn't be my pick at 21 either. But a lot of folks really like him.

I'm still hoping for a trade back. Especially with all the OT still on the board.

[Dam8610]

He wouldn't be my pick at 21 either. But a lot of folks really like him.

I'm still hoping for a trade back. Especially with all the OT still on the board.

The Cheats getting Mac Jones and the Colts drafting Kwity Paye would tell me that we are in the worst of all possible universes.

[smitty46953]

Hope the WFT goes LB and not OT, if so Darrisaw or Jenkins will be there at #21 :cool:

[Luck4Reich]

Oh hell yes!!! This just got good!!!

[Butter]

Way to go WTF!

[smitty46953]

Kentucky LB Jamin Davis goes 19 overall to the Washington Football Team :cool:

[TheMugwump]

Looking more and more like a trade back, if they can find a partner.

[Dam8610]

Please draft Kwity Paye Gettleman. You love picking DL with loads of athleticism.

[smitty46953]

Looking more and more like a trade back, if they can find a partner.

I hope not, Darrisaw or Jenkins will be there at #21 :cool:

[Puck]

This is crazy. Ballard may still trade back and get a haul

[Dam8610]

I hope not, Darrisaw or Jenkins will be there at #21 :cool:

One will be there at 28. Likely the better one in Jenkins.

[smitty46953]

With pick 20 overall in the 2021 NFL Draft, the Giants are selecting WR Kadarius Toney

[TheMugwump]

Here's hoping New Orleans still wants to trade up.

[Chromeburn]

Toney meh, see if NO still wants Caleb farley

[Luck4Reich]

Wow... Wow

[Thorgrim]

Ballard is in a win/win position now.

[Maniac]

Trade down Ballard

[Puck]

Get a trade back Ballard

[Brylok]

Here we go. I'm still thinking we'll trade back...

[smitty46953]

Bet Ballard trades back :cool:

[nate505]

Darrisaw or Paye!

Frankly if they can trade down even better.

[TheMugwump]

Trade back and get a couple of thirds...c'mon BDB.

[Thorgrim]

Trade

[Brylok]

TV is on mute until our pick (or lack thereof) is announced.

[TheMugwump]

That Toney kid reminds me of Steve Smith Jr. with his small man/big hitter approach to WR.

[Dam8610]

Just get Jenkins here.

[nate505]

Clock keeps moving so it looks like they're trying to trade down. Wonder if anyone really wants to trade up though.

[Thorgrim]

Clock keeps moving so it looks like they're trying to trade down. Wonder if anyone really wants to trade up though.

There is ALWAYS someone wanting to be fleeced by Ballard.

[nate505]

Looks like they will actually make a pick

[Brylok]

I knew there'd be a commercial break before our pick. NFL doesn't like us anymore.

[smitty46953]

I really want OT so will probably be EDGE. Paye I bet or trade back be better :eek:

[rcubed]

Fucking commercials!


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[smitty46953]

pick is in :cool:

[Chromeburn]

Annual commercial during the Colts pick. I’m surprised they even announce it.

[rcubed]

Shit. Was hoping ot here.


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[Dam8610]

We are officially in the worst possible football universe.

[Brylok]

I really want OT so will probably be EDGE. Paye I bet or trade back be better :eek:

Wizard

[nate505]

Nice, very happy with Paye.

[nate505]

We are officially in the worst possible football universe.

Considering how unhappy you were with Taylor, I'm even more thrilled with the pick.

[Chromeburn]

Ugh

[smitty46953]

Colts select Michigan EDGE Kwity Paye at No. 21 overall, per
@zkeefer

Wanted Jenkins, but position of need, hope shines next to Buckner

[Thorgrim]

Kinda expected this but I have mixed emotions. Evidently a favorable trade package wasn’t on the table.

[TheMugwump]

Ballard knows what he's doing, so cool.

Glad it wasn't a punter.

[Puck]

I fucking LOVE it

#1 Edge rush in the draft The remaining OT's are all about the same and can be had at 54 or maybe later

[Dam8610]

How do you leave Teven Jenkins and Christian Darrisaw on the board there? Hope the DL coach can unlock all those traits Paye has, but not holding out much hope. If you're going EDGE, why on Earth would you take Paye over Ojulari?! Now watch the Titans take Ojulari and the Steelers take Jenkins. Because everything always sucks in the draft.

[Maniac]

Ballard loves raw players way too high.

[Dam8610]

I fucking LOVE it

#1 Edge rush in the draft The remaining OT's are all about the same and can be had at 54 or maybe later

He's not EDGE1, he's not even EDGE4. This is terrible. This is Bjoren Werner bad.

[smitty46953]

I fucking LOVE it

#1 Edge rush in the draft The remaining OT's are all about the same and can be had at 54 or maybe later

He should shine next to Buckner ! :cool:

[Brylok]

I fucking LOVE it

#1 Edge rush in the draft The remaining OT's are all about the same and can be had at 54 or maybe later

Hope you're right. Seems like a good kid. Goodnight everybody.

[Luck4Reich]

He's not EDGE1, he's not even EDGE4. This is terrible. This is Bjoren Werner bad.

Watch out everyone Dam has seen into the future:cool:

[smitty46953]

He's not EDGE1, he's not even EDGE4. This is terrible. This is Bjoren Werner bad.

Bad memory bringing up Werner. Hope you are wrong :cool:

[Dam8610]

He should shine next to Buckner ! :cool:

Sure hope the coaches can unlock the traits. He had 11.5 sacks in 4 years at Michigan.

[rcubed]

He should shine next to Buckner ! :cool:


Hope so.


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[Dam8610]

Bad memory bringing up Werner. Hope you are wrong :cool:

I hope I'm wrong about a lot of things based on tonight. The reason I brought up Bjoren Werner was because he was the EDGE name that everyone had rated highly that year and I had as a bust. That guy for me this year was Kwity Paye. They had Teven Jenkins for the taking. How do you pass that up for traits alone in Kwity Paye? How?!

[rcubed]

I hope I'm wrong about a lot of things based on tonight. The reason I brought up Bjoren Werner was because he was the EDGE name that everyone had rated highly that year and I had as a bust. That guy for me this year was Kwity Paye. They had Teven Jenkins for the taking. How do you pass that up for traits alone in Kwity Paye? How?!


Because Ballard >> Grigson


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[Butter]

He's not EDGE1, he's not even EDGE4. This is terrible. This is Bjoren Werner bad.

This feels like an enormous overreaction.

[Oldcolt]

Polian said never pass up a pass rusher or a quarterback. Hope Ballard finally hits on a defensive end.

[rcubed]

I wonder if Ballard will move up in the second


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[apballin]

I hope I'm wrong about a lot of things based on tonight. The reason I brought up Bjoren Werner was because he was the EDGE name that everyone had rated highly that year and I had as a bust. That guy for me this year was Kwity Paye. They had Teven Jenkins for the taking. How do you pass that up for traits alone in Kwity Paye? How?!

Yea I don’t like the pick, would’ve rather seen a LT there seems like a project guy that according to the analysts needs coached up, idk