With the Next Pick in the Draft series

[Puck]

If you haven't gotten to see this. It is very good.

Here is the first episode that aired last night. They come out every couple of weeks

https://www.colts.com/video/nfl-draft-with-the-next-pick-episode-one-2021-scouting-covid-19

[rcubed]

yeah, its a cool series. I always wonder about the oversite/editing so that they arent accidentally giving away any team plans

[Dam8610]

yeah, its a cool series. I always wonder about the oversite/editing so that they arent accidentally giving away any team plans

They don't put any identifying information about players they're talking about until after the draft.

[Chromeburn]

yeah, its a cool series. I always wonder about the oversite/editing so that they arent accidentally giving away any team plans

I try to read their board every year and have never been able to. And I import it into premier at zoom in.

[rcubed]

They don't put any identifying information about players they're talking about until after the draft.
yeah I get that. I meant what kind of effort goes into the editing process to verify that nothing is given away.

[Dam8610]

yeah I get that. I meant what kind of effort goes into the editing process to verify that nothing is given away.

Probably an inordinate amount.

[apballin]

Maybe in previous years but I still believe they’re not hiding anything this year me, you, and everyone else know it’s gonna be a Tackle. Similar to last year when I hit on Pittman, They might fall in love with a certain player and trade back but the position is obvious

[rcubed]

Maybe in previous years but I still believe they’re not hiding anything this year me, you, and everyone else know it’s gonna be a Tackle. Similar to last year when I hit on Pittman, They might fall in love with a certain player and trade back but the position is obvious
come on man. everyone knows we are in the hunt for a LT. the questions is which one, what pick, will there be a trade back, etc.

[apballin]

come on man. everyone knows we are in the hunt for a LT. the questions is which one, what pick, will there be a trade back, etc.

Right now I’d go with Eichenberg or Jenkins, if Jenkins is there at 21 he’s the pick if not trade back for Eichenberg

[Puck]

I think Horn may fall and freak all you fuckers out when they draft him. He'd be BPA over Jenkins or Eichenburg or most anyone still available

[Dam8610]

I think Horn may fall and freak all you fuckers out when they draft him. He'd be BPA over Jenkins or Eichenburg or most anyone still available

Ballard has stuck to his philosophy of building from the lines out over the years. I think that will continue in this draft, and I doubt they'll go CB before Day 3.

[Discflinger]

I would really like to see some Jim. Being a graduate of FU, I lived in the same home as Jim for a bit and everyone loved him. We have the best owner in the NFL.

[rcubed]

I think Horn may fall and freak all you fuckers out when they draft him. He'd be BPA over Jenkins or Eichenburg or most anyone still available


This place would burn to the ground


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[Discflinger]

I don’t care...see a Jerry Garcia sweet ass guitar here.

[Discflinger]

Jerry pushed my step mother into a frozen river. I had prayed to Jerry.

[Discflinger]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-CVziimn4vU

[Discflinger]

Ummmm, I was born in 9/13/78. Listen ... the dead played with everyone along the pyramids.

[Discflinger]

I am still laughing! Let’s get a LT!

[Discflinger]

Jerry said the pyramids raised .

[Discflinger]

Best owner. We all know.

[Discflinger]

Jim was so great that his butler brought everything. FU, if you don’t believe than you weren’t there. People asked and it was brought. Don’t ask Jim. We all know. That was the same year we let go of P. I remember letting go. We all do!

[Discflinger]

We still have TY. Hahaha!

[Discflinger]

Two many SBs had we kept P?

[rcubed]

I think discflinger is malfunctioning again

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[Racehorse]

I think discflinger is malfunctioning again

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Drinking early this weekend.

[Puck]

Ballard has stuck to his philosophy of building from the lines out over the years. I think that will continue in this draft, and I doubt they'll go CB before Day 3.

Ballard went WR,RB,S,QB Last yr. No one saw it coming. Although I did say they would take a RB early

He drafts BPA/Need with the emphasis on BPA Jayce Horn would more than likely be BPA by a long shot.

[Dam8610]

Ballard went WR,RB,S,QB Last yr. No one saw it coming. Although I did say they would take a RB early

He drafts BPA/Need with the emphasis on BPA Jayce Horn would more than likely be BPA by a long shot.

Jaycee Horn is the one who can't tackle, right? Ballard would never draft that type of CB. IMO the only reason OT isn't a mortal lock at 21 is because a guy like Dillon Radunz, who would usually be in the late 1 early 2 conversation, is instead in the late 2 early 3 conversation because this class is just that deep. So IMO the Colts will either fall in love with an edge and take him at 21 (Ojulari and Phillips being the two guys I could see that happen with), or they'll get the best OT on the board.

[Oldcolt]

Discflinger is a fellow Deadhead? Best concert band ever. Long live Jerry!!

[Chromeburn]

Ballard went WR,RB,S,QB Last yr. No one saw it coming. Although I did say they would take a RB early

He drafts BPA/Need with the emphasis on BPA Jayce Horn would more than likely be BPA by a long shot.

Need wins if its even

[Puck]

Need wins if its even

Thats what I was trying to say

[apballin]

Ballard went WR,RB,S,QB Last yr. No one saw it coming. Although I did say they would take a RB early

He drafts BPA/Need with the emphasis on BPA Jayce Horn would more than likely be BPA by a long shot.

I definitely saw WR and RB coming, We signed funchess to be the big body WRand he got hurt so TY had ZERO threat on the other side and Mack was entering the final year of his contract

And yes BPA because if your guys not there you trade back lol

[Dam8610]

The new episode is out and it's all about the Wentz trade.

[apballin]

Cool shit, seems like him and Reich have a great connection

[Chromeburn]

Nice article in the athletic about the series

https://theathletic.com/2517474/2021/04/14/the-story-of-with-the-next-pick-why-the-colts-let-cameras-in-the-draft-room/?amp

[Chromeburn]

I definitely saw WR and RB coming, We signed funchess to be the big body WRand he got hurt so TY had ZERO threat on the other side and Mack was entering the final year of his contract

And yes BPA because if your guys not there you trade back lol

WR was super obvious, just like LT is this year.

I suspected RB was coming, bc I didn’t see them resigning Mack. But his injury meant there was no demand for him.

[Racehorse]

I don't know how anyone can watch that and not just love TY Hilton. He will go down as one of my all-time favorite players just because of who he is.

[albany ed]

I don't know how anyone can watch that and not just love TY Hilton. He will go down as one of my all-time favorite players just because of who he is.

He definitely exceeded my expectations. I never saw him as a #1 receiver, and as great as he's been for the Colts, I still don't.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

This year's final episode debuted last night.

The Colts seemed pretty excited that Kwity and Dayo were there.

Looks like Reich lobbied the room to draft Granson.

[rcubed]

That was good. But check out this interview with cowherd, lots of food stuff here.

https://youtu.be/GMpN8mHsxBA


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[apballin]

This year's final episode debuted last night.

The Colts seemed pretty excited that Kwity and Dayo were there.

Looks like Reich lobbied the room to draft Granson.

They told kwity you were #1 on our board we’ll show you

[Oldcolt]

I love that Ballard follows the draft board, I think the dude loves it when that pisses of the fan base. We care and he knows it. He also knows that he knows a hell of a lot more than us

[Butter]

lots of food stuff here.


Perfect timing I am trying to meal plan right now.

[rcubed]

Perfect timing I am trying to meal plan right now.


Stupid fingers.


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[Discflinger]

Proof that we have the best owner.

[Discflinger]

Even Ballard has his Jimmy voice.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

I try to read their board every year and have never been able to. And I import it into premier at zoom in.

Hmmmm.......the Colts may blur out their draft board in the "With the Next Pick" series - but the Jaguars apparently didn't bother to obfuscate their grades on their draft board in their video series. Several prospect scores were revealed including that of Kwity Paye:

https://wmleader.com/general-other/45321/want-a-peek-at-the-jaguars-draft-board-here-are-some-prospect-grades/

[Chromeburn]

Hmmmm.......the Colts may blur out their draft board in the "With the Next Pick" series - but the Jaguars apparently didn't bother to obfuscate their grades on their draft board in their video series. Several prospect scores were revealed including that of Kwity Paye:

https://wmleader.com/general-other/45321/want-a-peek-at-the-jaguars-draft-board-here-are-some-prospect-grades/

Shoddy work, or maybe they just don’t care. Each team is a little different in draft grades. I’m not sure who is calling the shots there now, Urban handling the drafting too?

[JAFF]

How hard is it to tell what the colts value? High character, athletic ability, unselfish, team first, play inside the team concept.

[Butter]

Shoddy work, or maybe they just don’t care. Each team is a little different in draft grades. I’m not sure who is calling the shots there now, Urban handling the drafting too?

Probably a bit of both since teams stay pretty secretive about it, but how much value does it really have after the draft. I suppose you may infer a little bit about future picks, but it seems to me to be minimal

[Chromeburn]

Probably a bit of both since teams stay pretty secretive about it, but how much value does it really have after the draft. I suppose you may infer a little bit about future picks, but it seems to me to be minimal

It just showed their final grade and stats. But we now know the jags put a higher grade on Philips despite the concussions over Kwity Paye. So you get some insight into what they value and do not. For a new administration I wouldn’t want that out. Come draft time next year teams may know what they value better and can out maneuver them for players they like. That’s the biggest consequence I can think of.

[Dam8610]

It just showed their final grade and stats. But we now know the jags put a higher grade on Philips despite the concussions over Kwity Paye. So you get some insight into what they value and do not. For a new administration I wouldn’t want that out. Come draft time next year teams may know what they value better and can out maneuver them for players they like. That’s the biggest consequence I can think of.

They seem to have a higher value on floor than a lot of teams, amongst them the Colts. Valuing floor is the quickest and easiest way to arrive at Phillips over Paye, as Phillips is a lot more polished and technically sound coming into the league than Paye is, especially when it comes to pass rush.

[Racehorse]

They seem to have a higher value on floor than a lot of teams, amongst them the Colts. Valuing floor is the quickest and easiest way to arrive at Phillips over Paye, as Phillips is a lot more polished and technically sound coming into the league than Paye is, especially when it comes to pass rush.

The dude's floor is out of the league after one good hit and concussion.

[Dam8610]

The dude's floor is out of the league after one good hit and concussion.

He's unlikely to continue with the shit luck like getting run over by a car.

[rcubed]

He's unlikely to continue with the shit luck like getting run over by a car.


Really?

[Dam8610]

Really?

Yes, I highly doubt he gets run over by a car again. That was how he got one of the 3 concussions he got.

[Racehorse]

Yes, I highly doubt he gets run over by a car again. That was how he got one of the 3 concussions he got.

Nelson will hit him as hard as a Smartcar.

[Butter]

:cool:Yes, I highly doubt he gets run over by a car again. That was how he got one of the 3 concussions he got.

Not a car, but NFL linemen take hit to the head on the regular, it is a legit concern with him.

[rcubed]

:cool:

Not a car, but NFL linemen take hit to the head on the regular, it is a legit concern with him.


Thanks butter. I am sometimes confused whether dam is that dense or not. Its a legit concern especially given the history, whether previous ones were from a car or not.


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[Chromeburn]

They seem to have a higher value on floor than a lot of teams, amongst them the Colts. Valuing floor is the quickest and easiest way to arrive at Phillips over Paye, as Phillips is a lot more polished and technically sound coming into the league than Paye is, especially when it comes to pass rush.

The problem with concussions is the more you get the more susceptible you are to getting them.

[Brylok]

The problem with concussions is the more you get the more susceptible you are to getting them.

See also: Austin Collie

[Oldcolt]

The problem with concussions is the more you get the more susceptible you are to getting them.

The morality of paying a young man who is very susceptible to CTE to do a job where concussions are inevitable is dubious in my mind.

[apballin]

The problem with concussions is the more you get the more susceptible you are to getting them.

But does that rule apply when the concussions weren’t due to football?

[Butter]

But does that rule apply when the concussions weren’t due to football?

I am hoping this was a joke, I am just not sure based on history.

[apballin]

I am hoping this was a joke, I am just not sure based on history.

I’m saying he doesn’t have a history of on field concussions I don’t feel like he puts himself in bad situations or takes a lot of big shots

I think he’s gonna bounce back big this year, dudes still only 23 years old

[Racehorse]

I’m saying he doesn’t have a history of on field concussions I don’t feel like he puts himself in bad situations or takes a lot of big shots

I think he’s gonna bounce back big this year, dudes still only 23 years old

Who are you talking about?

[Oldcolt]

Trauma to the brain is trauma, it makes no difference how you get it. Do you treat a broken arm differently because one guy fell out of a tree and the other guy fell off his bike? He is at increased risk

[apballin]

Trauma to the brain is trauma, it makes no difference how you get it. Do you treat a broken arm differently because one guy fell out of a tree and the other guy fell off his bike? He is at increased risk

Still hard for me to believe that it’s harder to get the 1st concussion than any other concussion, there are different levels of concussion severity which is why some guys have to wait longer to return. A hard hit to the head is gonna cause a concussion regardless of it’s your 1st or your 10th concussion

But I’m jus saying Campbell doesn’t put himself in bad position on the football field

[Racehorse]

Still hard for me to believe that it’s harder to get the 1st concussion than any other concussion, there are different levels of concussion severity which is why some guys have to wait longer to return. A hard hit to the head is gonna cause a concussion regardless of it’s your 1st or your 10th concussion

But I’m jus saying Campbell doesn’t put himself in bad position on the football field

We were discussing Phillips vs. Paye, not Campbell.

[rcubed]

Still hard for me to believe that it’s harder to get the 1st concussion than any other concussion,

I think this is a bit backward. I believe its more like "after the first one, the next ones come easier."

Not that its "harder" for the first, but that once you have had one you are more susceptible to another.

[apballin]

We were discussing Phillips vs. Paye, not Campbell.

Oh my bad, yea fuck Phillips

That’s what I get for driving and trying to read seen something about a car accident and concussion

My fault

[Spike]

Oh my bad, yea fuck Phillips

That’s what I get for driving and trying to read seen something about a car accident and concussion

My fault

You keep reading and driving at the same time and you are going to end up with a shitload of concussions.

[JAFF]

Dont thump your mellon.

Once you have had a concussion, its easier to get another if you continue to do the same stuff that got you the first one. Brain tissue doesnt heal. So if you keep bruising it, it gets worse.

It’s not fair, but a player with a history of concussions well only have more concussions if they keep playing

[Chromeburn]

But does that rule apply when the concussions weren’t due to football?

I don’t think the rule shifts depending on how you got them. The problem is a lineman knocks helmets almost every play. As a DE that might be somewhat less, and depends on how you play. But let’s say even 50% of the snaps you could knock helmets. Then you have the odds of collisions and tackles. He might be ok. I just don’t see Ballard using a first on a potential injury risk. Remember he passed on Sweat who was a better choice than Sin probably bc of medicals.

Concussions are just a tough thing to gamble on. I like Phillips DE play probably more than anyone in this draft, but I don’t know if I would have gambled a first on him.