Who do want Ballard to go after in a trade, FA or draft? QB ONLY thread

[Puck]

I want Stafford in FA, And as of late I am warming up the the idea of Wentz

In the draft. I want this guy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtaJUM4o4oo

[Colts And Orioles]

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After seeing what a 39 year-old Philip Rivers was able to do with this team, I wouldn't mind seeing Stafford or Wentz in 2021.

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[Dam8610]

If Dak Prescott actually makes it to free agency, he'd be worth a look, but I doubt he will. Stafford or Wentz would require a trade, Ryan might. If they're willing to invest the 21st pick in a QB, I'd go for Mac Jones and bring in a journeyman as competition. I think Jones is the most NFL ready in this draft, though.

[Maniac]

Stafford or Ryan via trade

[Chromeburn]

I want Stafford in FA, And as of late I am warming up the the idea of Wentz

In the draft. I want this guy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtaJUM4o4oo

I wouldn't mind his receiver.

[PowayColt]

I would want Stafford. Wentz gets hurt a lot and couldn't even stay first string on a bad Eagles team.

[Mr. Session]

Stafford or Ryan.

No on Wentz. He's made of glass and I have character concerns.

[nate505]

I'm also on the get a vet like Stafford train. That said, if they could trade up to get Trey Lance and not give up the world for him, I'd be all in.

[Racehorse]

Stafford, or draft a good QB

[TheMugwump]

1 - Darnold
2 - Stafford
3 - Mac Jones



527 - Wentz

[apballin]

Phillip Walker

[smitty46953]

I want Stafford in FA, And as of late I am warming up the the idea of Wentz

In the draft. I want this guy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtaJUM4o4oo

Doubt Lions cut Stafford, so not available as a FA. Would like to see a trade for him if within reason. Pederson got the axe in Philly due to his going away from Wentz, who their owner Jeffery Lurie really likes. Probably better chance to poach Hurts from the Eagles than Wentz IMHO.

8/28/2017: Stafford signed a six-year, $135 million contract. The deal contains $92 million guaranteed, including a $60.5 million signing bonus. Stafford is eligible for an annual $500,000 workout bonus throughout the contact's life.
2018: $9.5 million (+ $6.5 million roster bonus)
2019: $13.5 million (+ $5.5 million roster bonus)
2020: $15 million (+ $6 million roster bonus)
2021: $9.5 million (+ $10 million roster bonus)
2022: $12.5 million (+ $10 million roster bonus)
2023: Free Agent

He would be cheaper than Rivers

[Mr. Session]

Doubt Lions cut Stafford, so not available as a FA. Would like to see a trade for him if within reason. Pederson got the axe in Philly due to his going away from Wentz, who their owner Jeffery Lurie really likes. Probably better chance to poach Hurts from the Eagles than Wentz IMHO.

8/28/2017: Stafford signed a six-year, $135 million contract. The deal contains $92 million guaranteed, including a $60.5 million signing bonus. Stafford is eligible for an annual $500,000 workout bonus throughout the contact's life.
2018: $9.5 million (+ $6.5 million roster bonus)
2019: $13.5 million (+ $5.5 million roster bonus)
2020: $15 million (+ $6 million roster bonus)
2021: $9.5 million (+ $10 million roster bonus)
2022: $12.5 million (+ $10 million roster bonus)
2023: Free Agent

He would be cheaper than Rivers

I wonder what they could him for from Detroit. I've got a lot of family and some friends from Detroit. They all have said they think Stafford deserves to play for a competent franchise.

I haven't seen enough of the guy's tape to really make any kind of declarative statement but generally what I've seen from him I've liked.

I would hope he could at least produce like River's did, but if they don't have a legitimate long term plan in place I'm going to be annoyed at us renting a quarterback for another year or two and pushing the problem down the line.

[Puck]

Doubt Lions cut Stafford, so not available as a FA. Would like to see a trade for him if within reason. Pederson got the axe in Philly due to his going away from Wentz, who their owner Jeffery Lurie really likes. Probably better chance to poach Hurts from the Eagles than Wentz IMHO.

8/28/2017: Stafford signed a six-year, $135 million contract. The deal contains $92 million guaranteed, including a $60.5 million signing bonus. Stafford is eligible for an annual $500,000 workout bonus throughout the contact's life.
2018: $9.5 million (+ $6.5 million roster bonus)
2019: $13.5 million (+ $5.5 million roster bonus)
2020: $15 million (+ $6 million roster bonus)
2021: $9.5 million (+ $10 million roster bonus)
2022: $12.5 million (+ $10 million roster bonus)
2023: Free Agent

He would be cheaper than Rivers

My bad I should’ve added in trade for also in the title

[smitty46953]

That kid Puck linked in original post Jamie Newman looks pretty good :cool:

So does Sage Surratt the WR

[Butter]

i am down for Stafford or Ryan with the 21st and maybe some change.

[JAFF]

Phillip Walker

Lol

[albany ed]

First, the Jets trade for Watson, getting him out of our division. Darnold becomes unnecessary for them so we trade a 3rd rounder for him and Reich turns him around and we have a solid QB for the next 15 years.

[JAFF]

First, the Jets trade for Watson, getting him out of our division. Darnold becomes unnecessary for them so we trade a 3rd rounder for him and Reich turns him around and we have a solid QB for the next 15 years.

If the Jets were to trade for Watson wouldn’t they probably wind up asking for Darnold in the trade because they’re gonna need a quarterback?

[Racehorse]

That kid Puck linked in original post Jamie Newman looks pretty good :cool:

So does Sage Surratt the WR

On a side note, I went to HS with a girl whose last name was Surratt. Had one of the nicest asses I have ever seen.

[albany ed]

If the Jets were to trade for Watson wouldn’t they probably wind up asking for Darnold in the trade because they’re gonna need a quarterback?

Not necessarily, they'd get AT THE VERY LEAST,
the Jets 2 1st rounders this year, and with the second pick, they could select a QB.

[apballin]

Lol

No I’m being serious

[JAFF]

No I’m being serious

You are fucking killing me smalls LOL oh LOL

[rcubed]

I think draft. Maybe a surprise big move up to grab one of the top guys. Or maybe jones at 21.


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[Puck]

Maybe Luck is ready.

Someone had to say it

[JAFF]

Maybe Luck is ready.

Someone had to say it


While you’re at it why don’t you put some lemon juice in that cut

[Racehorse]

Maybe Luck is ready.

Someone had to say it

I would love that, but it appears that ship has sailed.

[Coltsaction]

Tbh even if Luck came back I'd rather the Colts trade him and get whatever they can get.

[njcoltfan]

Tbh even if Luck came back I'd rather the Colts trade him and get whatever they can get.

To the Texans for Watson !!

[Hoopsdoc]

Tbh even if Luck came back I'd rather the Colts trade him and get whatever they can get.

If he did come back(he won’t), it would take a year just to knock the rust off.

That ship has indeed sailed.

[IndyNorm]

If he did come back(he won’t), it would take a year just to knock the rust off.

That ship has indeed sailed.

Depends on his conditioning, but if he were to come back now he really wouldn't have missed much more time than he did for the shoulder surgery. So it might look more like the '18 season.

Agree that the ship has sailed though and it won't happen.

[Hoopsdoc]

Depends on his conditioning, but if he were to come back now he really wouldn't have missed much more time than he did for the shoulder surgery. So it might look more like the '18 season.

Agree that the ship has sailed though and it won't happen.

2 full seasons and 2 full offseasons. That’s quite a bit more than his shoulder injury.

[IndyNorm]

2 full seasons and 2 full offseasons. That’s quite a bit more than his shoulder injury.

I could be misremembering, but he missed 1 full season and essentially 2 offseasons with the shoulder surgery since he wasn't throwing the ball until training camp for the '18 season. It's a moot point, but I think it's closer than you think.

[Chromeburn]

At this point I just don't know what they should do. I'm leaning towards the draft. But I would like to see more data and testing on all the QB's. I would probably say draft a guy, let him compete and be opportunistic with the fallout of the draft, FA, and the lower cap.

[Oldcolt]

That we have a full page of Luck shit shows how screwed we truly are. There are no good options, I just hope Ballard can do some magic.

[njcoltfan]

That we have a full page of Luck shit show how screwed we truly are. There are no good options, I just hope Ballard can do some magic.

Show’s how Luck really screwed the Colts, going into year 3 post Luck, and no clue about who the next QB will be. If I’m not mistaken, every AFC playoff QB this year was a first round pick

[JAFF]

Show’s how Luck really screwed the Colts, going into year 3 post Luck, and no clue about who the next QB will be. If I’m not mistaken, every AFC playoff QB this year was a first round pick

It always amazes me how when people say luck screwed the Colts. He managed to get out of the game with his health. He suffered major organ damage in a game. Something that could’ve cost him his life.

Andrew luck didn’t screw the Colts or Colts fans of one single thing. Quite frankly he’s probably lucky he got out with his life.

[Mr. Session]

It always amazes me how when people say luck screwed the Colts. He managed to get out of the game with his health. He suffered major organ damage in a game. Something that could’ve cost him his life.

Andrew luck didn’t screw the Colts or Colts fans of one single thing. Quite frankly he’s probably lucky he got out with his life.

He knew what he signed up for, I'm tired of people giving him an out for this.

I'm not judging him for walking away. Objectively it's smart. He's made generational wealth; Why continue? He does not get a pass for hustling everyone, even if it wasn't intentional, on who he was.

Clearly he did not know he was incapable of handling the burdens as they relate to the sport. I thought I was invincible when I was a kid too.

I MAINTAIN - Manning broke his fucking neck and won a superbowl, and we sent him packing because this dude sold us on something he was not able to provide. If he was as passionate about the job as Manning, Brady, Brees, and every other generational quarterback he was supposed to be like, he would not have walked away from the team when it was finally ready to make deep playoff runs.

[Brylok]

It always amazes me how when people say luck screwed the Colts...

It's "amazing" that other fans have a different opinion about Luck than you do. Alrighty then.

[Hoopsdoc]

It always amazes me how when people say luck screwed the Colts. He managed to get out of the game with his health. He suffered major organ damage in a game. Something that could’ve cost him his life.

Andrew luck didn’t screw the Colts or Colts fans of one single thing. Quite frankly he’s probably lucky he got out with his life.

How many times have we been through this? Why do you reflexively feel the need to defend Luck?

We can refrain from begrudging him anything and still discuss what is blatantly obvious-he completely screwed the franchise by retiring when and how he did.

[JAFF]

He knew what he signed up for, I'm tired of people giving him an out for this.

I'm not judging him for walking away. Objectively it's smart. He's made generational wealth; Why continue? He does not get a pass for hustling everyone, even if it wasn't intentional, on who he was.

Clearly he did not know he was incapable of handling the burdens as they relate to the sport. I thought I was invincible when I was a kid too.

I MAINTAIN - Manning broke his fucking neck and won a superbowl, and we sent him packing because this dude sold us on something he was not able to provide. If he was as passionate about the job as Manning, Brady, Brees, and every other generational quarterback he was supposed to be like, he would not have walked away from the team when it was finally ready to make deep playoff runs.

So he should risk his health to keep you happy. Ok

[JAFF]

It's "amazing" that other fans have a different opinion about Luck than you do. Alrighty then.

So I’m not allowed to have my opinion? I’m not looking at this from the point of winning Super Bowl’s, it’s about him as a person.

Its a game. He didn’t desert his post in the military. He didn’t steal money out of your pocket. He suffered an internal injury when he got buggy whipped down at the Denver game and could’ve lost his life. And that’s not why he quit. He’s been rehabbing his leg for two straight years and it just wasn’t responding.

His body failed him.

Was he supposed to die out there for you fans?

[IndyNorm]

So I’m not allowed to have my opinion? I’m not looking at this from the point of winning Super Bowl’s, it’s about him as a person.

Its a game. He didn’t desert his post in the military. He didn’t steal money out of your pocket. He suffered an internal injury when he got buggy whipped down at the Denver game and could’ve lost his life. And that’s not why he quit. He’s been rehabbing his leg for two straight years and it just wasn’t responding.

His body failed him.

Was he supposed to die out there for you fans?

If Luck had retired with the same timing as AC or Rivers then there would be a lot less hard feelings, but with him retiring 1 week before the season starts it's hard to overlook thoughts that he screwed the Colts and quit on him teammates (and on a possible SB contending team).

Also, where'd you get the rehabbing his ankle for 2 years from? Luck wasn't listed on the injury report for the entire 2018 season.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt/2018_injuries.htm

[njcoltfan]

So I’m not allowed to have my opinion? I’m not looking at this from the point of winning Super Bowl’s, it’s about him as a person.

Its a game. He didn’t desert his post in the military. He didn’t steal money out of your pocket. He suffered an internal injury when he got buggy whipped down at the Denver game and could’ve lost his life. And that’s not why he quit. He’s been rehabbing his leg for two straight years and it just wasn’t responding.

His body failed him.

Was he supposed to die out there for you fans?
I could be wrong ( probably am ) but wasn't the leg injury due to some sort of skiing or snowboarding accident?

[apballin]

If Luck had retired with the same timing as AC or Rivers then there would be a lot less hard feelings, but with him retiring 1 week before the season starts it's hard to overlook thoughts that he screwed the Colts and quit on him teammates (and on a possible SB contending team).

Also, where'd you get the rehabbing his ankle for 2 years from? Luck wasn't listed on the injury report for the entire 2018 season.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt/2018_injuries.htm

I believe he wanted to retire right after the loss in KC, strongly believe he was coaxed into return when he didn’t wanna play anymore and after going thru the motion and all the bs charades he finally said he couldn’t do it

He gave everything he had I have no Ill will towards him. We could’ve had a QB by now I believe they were delaying the inevitable in hopes Luck came back. We had many options and we went with Rivers. We’ll get our QB hell it may be Brissett. I’d prefer one on a rookie contract

[Puck]

What would be your take on Trubisky?

I've never really liked him but then again it could be just because he's with the Bears. FA and he's mobile, has a decent arm. Played pretty well at the end of the season.

[JAFF]

Problem solved

http://https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/18/ravens-waive-robert-griffin-iii/?__twitter_impression=true

[njcoltfan]

Problem solved

http://https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/18/ravens-waive-robert-griffin-iii/?__twitter_impression=true

Site can’t be reached

[JAFF]

Site can’t be reached

If at first you dont succeed


https://www.nfl.com/news/ravens-waive-qb-robert-griffin-iii-after-three-seasons

[rcubed]

Site shouldn’t be reached


Fixed it.


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[Mr. Session]

So he should risk his health to keep you happy. Ok

No, Dam, that's not what I said.

[Brylok]

Was he supposed to die out there for you fans?


Yeah, I'm sure death figured in. Twenty nine is a long road for anyone.

[Brylok]

What would be your take on Trubisky?



We're in interesting times, but I hope we're not that desperate. Talk about lowered expectations. Hell no.

[Spike]

We're in interesting times, but I hope we're not that desperate. Talk about lowered expectations. Hell no.

Totally agree, no damn way I want to see Trubisky in a Colts uniform.

[Racehorse]

I am one that sees the Luck situation as unfortunate, and tire of the group that has to trash the guy every chance they get. However, I usually just refrain from replying. I don’t like to beat a dead (or live) horse, being one myself.

[JAFF]

Yeah, I'm sure death figured in. Twenty nine is a long road for anyone.

The Indianapolis Colts announced Tuesday that Luck will miss 2-6 weeks with a lacerated kidney and a partial tear of an abdominal muscle. The team says the injuries will not require surgery and a full recovery is expected.

If Methodist hospital were further away, you dont know what could have happened.

He took a beating every Sunday while they couldnt fix the O line.

[Mr. Session]

I am one that sees the Luck situation as unfortunate, and tire of the group that has to trash the guy every chance they get. However, I usually just refrain from replying. I don’t like to beat a dead (or live) horse, being one myself.

I think it's unfortunate too, and I tire of the group that always makes him out to be a victim. I just don't believe he is a victim.

The horse is dead though. It's dead. We can all agree on that.

[JAFF]

I think it's unfortunate too, and I tire of the group that always makes him out to be a victim. I just don't believe he is a victim.

The horse is dead though. It's dead. We can all agree on that.

Luck is not the victim. He made a choice. He walked away while he could. Which may make him in the minority, but its his life and he is free to retire and go do something else.

[Racehorse]

Stafford is in the trade block. Ballard, do something!

[JAFF]

Stafford is in the trade block. Ballard, do something!

All it takes is $$$$$

[Spike]

All it takes is $$$$$

There are a few teams who need QB's. It will come down to whatever team offers the most. The Colts can shed a big chunk of change since Rivers retired and cutting Brisket. All good QB's cost money!

[YDFL Commish]

What would be your take on Trubisky?

I've never really liked him but then again it could be just because he's with the Bears. FA and he's mobile, has a decent arm. Played pretty well at the end of the season.

It would be like signing Jeff George.

[JAFF]

Totally agree, no damn way I want to see Trubisky in a Colts uniform.

Now that you put that out there, the colts will get him.

[JAFF]

It would be like signing Jeff George.

Jeff George’s one armed brother

[TheMugwump]

It would be like signing Jeff George.

With more mobility and far, far less 'arm talent'.

[albany ed]

On another note, looks like Brady is well on his way to another Super Bowl.

[Racehorse]

On another note, looks like Brady is well on his way to another Super Bowl.

GB is making it interesting.

[Racehorse]

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When the Colts were losing to the Patriots by a score of 21-3 late in the 1st half of the 2006 AFC championship game, one of my older brothers emailed me to say that he was hoping that this would be the year for my beloved Colts, but it didn't look like it.

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Gaydy just threw another pick, lolol

[Colts And Orioles]

On another note, it looks like Brady is well on his way to another Super Bowl appearance.











Green Bay is making it interesting.





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When the Colts were losing to the Patriots by a score of 21-3 late in the 1st half of the 2006 AFC championship game, one of my older brothers emailed me to say that he was hoping that this would be the year for my beloved Colts, but it apparently was not.

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[Colts And Orioles]

o

When the Colts were losing to the Patriots by a score of 21-3 late in the 1st half of the 2006 AFC championship game, one of my older brothers emailed me to say that he was hoping that this would be the year for my beloved Colts, but it apparently was not.

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Gaydy just threw another pick, lolol.





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The Packers have a big edge in time off possessions and plays run on offense ...... I'm hoping that that becomes a factor as this 4th quarter progresses.

o

[Racehorse]

Gaydy throws another pick, LMAO

[Colts And Orioles]

o

When the Colts were losing to the Patriots by a score of 21-3 late in the 1st half of the 2006 AFC championship game, one of my older brothers emailed me to say that he was hoping that this would be the year for my beloved Colts, but it apparently was not.

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A) ) I was hoping that Rodgers and the Packers were able to repeat what Manning and the 2006 Colts did 14 years ago.

B) ) Tough break for the Packers on the pass interference call late in the 4th quarter which gave the Buccaneers a 1st down, instead of them being forced to punt.

C) ) The Packers getting burned for a 49-yard TD pass when the Buccaneers had no timeouts and only 8 seconds left to play in the 1st half was inexcusable ...... it was on par with the 2012 Denver Broncos coughing up the game-tying, 70-yard TD pass when the Ravens had no timeouts and only 30 seconds left to play in the 4th quarter of that season's divisional playoff game. That gaffe cost Peyton Manning a chance to beat Brady in yet another conference championship game (Manning's teams were 3-1 in such games against Brady's teams when Manning retired), and what very well may have been a 3rd Super Bowl ring (in addition to the one that he won 6 years earlier, and the 2nd one that he won 3 years later.)

o

[Spike]

Packer coaches were stupid today, including the defensive coordinator.

[Puck]

Packer coaches were stupid today, including the defensive coordinator.

Rogers was stupid for not running that 3rd down instead of that weak ass pass he tried

[rcubed]

If someone asked who would get back to SB first, brady or belicheck, i would have put my money on belicheck

For fucks sake. We are in for more tom terrific. God i hope he loses the SB.


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[Chromeburn]

People are going nuts for Stafford on twitter. Great, do we trade in one guy who can’t get to the big game for a guy who can’t even win a playoff game.

Also as I watch the Bills. I can’t help but wonder if the rumors that luck tried to retire in January are true. That would mean we went into the draft knowing that and we drafted Nelson instead of Josh Allen.

[JAFF]

People are going nuts for Stafford on twitter. Great, do we trade in one guy who can’t get to the big game for a guy who can’t even win a playoff game.

Also as I watch the Bills. I can’t help but wonder if the rumors that luck tried to retire in January are true. That would mean we went into the draft knowing that and we drafted Nelson instead of Josh Allen.

If that is true, then the colts deserve what they get.

[apballin]

People are going nuts for Stafford on twitter. Great, do we trade in one guy who can’t get to the big game for a guy who can’t even win a playoff game.

Also as I watch the Bills. I can’t help but wonder if the rumors that luck tried to retire in January are true. That would mean we went into the draft knowing that and we drafted Nelson instead of Josh Allen.

Nelson is more valuable than Josh Allen, I’d still take Nelson over him today

[Dam8610]

People are going nuts for Stafford on twitter. Great, do we trade in one guy who can’t get to the big game for a guy who can’t even win a playoff game.

Also as I watch the Bills. I can’t help but wonder if the rumors that luck tried to retire in January are true. That would mean we went into the draft knowing that and we drafted Nelson instead of Josh Allen.

January of 2019, after the playoff loss in KC, and a full 9 months after the Colts drafted Nelson, is when Luck was contemplating retirement according to the rumor. There were no QBs not named Kyler Murray worth taking in the 2019 NFL draft.

[daedge]

If someone asked who would get back to SB first, brady or belicheck, i would have put my money on belicheck

For fucks sake. We are in for more tom terrific. God i hope he loses the SB.


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Shame on the entire NFC for letting that old prick join a so, so team and take them to the Super Bowl.

[Dewey 5]

Packer coaches were stupid today, including the defensive coordinator.

I'll tell you this much, no way in hell would Reich kick a fg on 4th & goal in that situation.

[Chaka]

People are going nuts for Stafford on twitter. Great, do we trade in one guy who can’t get to the big game for a guy who can’t even win a playoff game.

I agree the Stafford hype seems to be a little out of control. Look, I'll be happy if we get Stafford like everyone else, but before we anoint ourselves SB champions I think he'll first need to prove is that he's an improvement over Rivers, because apart from his age the stats don't suggest a big difference:

Phillip Rivers
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RivePh00.htm

Matt Stafford
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/StafMa00.htm

[Chaka]

Also as I watch the Bills. I can’t help but wonder if the rumors that luck tried to retire in January are true. That would mean we went into the draft knowing that and we drafted Nelson instead of Josh Allen.

Luck's own statements directly contradict this rumor:
https://cbs4indy.com/sports/colts/espn-report-andrew-luck-to-retire-from-football/

[Chromeburn]

January of 2019, after the playoff loss in KC, and a full 9 months after the Colts drafted Nelson, is when Luck was contemplating retirement according to the rumor. There were no QBs not named Kyler Murray worth taking in the 2019 NFL draft.

Yup, that’s the timeline, I was off by a season. He had already played a season with Nelson.

[Chromeburn]

Luck's own statements directly contradict this rumor:
https://cbs4indy.com/sports/colts/espn-report-andrew-luck-to-retire-from-football/

I’ve heard differently. Know a few people that work for the team and stadium. That he was contemplating it after the playoff loss. The snowboard thing was true also.

Also heard a big scandal may hit the Colts this off season, hoping it isn’t true.

[Racehorse]

Shame on the entire NFC for letting that old prick join a so, so team and take them to the Super Bowl.

That "so so team" added a TE, WR and RB that were considered in the top players at their position less than two years ago.

[albany ed]

Brady was the missing piece the Bucs needed to get to the next level. However, if not for two minutes (end of the half and the first minutes of the second half), the Packers win that game. Now we need to hope Mahomes can end this Brady fantasy.

[IndyNorm]

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A) ) I was hoping that Rodgers and the Packers were able to repeat what Manning and the 2006 Colts did 14 years ago.

B) ) Tough break for the Packers on the pass interference call late in the 4th quarter which gave the Buccaneers a 1st down, instead of them being forced to punt.

C) ) The Packers getting burned for a 49-yard TD pass when the Buccaneers had no timeouts and only 8 seconds left to play in the 1st half was inexcusable ......
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Agree on all 3 points C&O. It was ridiculous that the refs decided to finally call PI on that play. While it was technically PI it was less egregious than what they were allowing all game long including the int right before the half. Why the refs are so biased to that cheating shithead is beyond me.

And the Packer's secondary allowing the WR to get by on the TD at the end of the half is one of the worst defensive plays in NFL history. Whoever blew that coverage should have been sent packing at halftime.

[Spike]

Agree on all 3 points C&O. It was ridiculous that the refs decided to finally call PI on that play. While it was technically PI it was less egregious than what they were allowing all game long including the int right before the half. Why the refs are so biased to that cheating shithead is beyond me.

And the Packer's secondary allowing the WR to get by on the TD at the end of the half is one of the worst defensive plays in NFL history. Whoever blew that coverage should have been sent packing at halftime.

That was the defensive coordinators fault, they should have been playing zone. Worst case scenario was allowing just a field goal. The Packer coaches were shit yesterday.

[Colts And Orioles]

o

A) ) I was hoping that Rodgers and the Packers were able to repeat what Manning and the 2006 Colts did 14 years ago.

B) ) Tough break for the Packers on the pass interference call late in the 4th quarter which gave the Buccaneers a 1st down, instead of them being forced to punt.

C) ) The Packers getting burned for a 49-yard TD pass when the Buccaneers had no timeouts and only 8 seconds left to play in the 1st half was inexcusable ...... it was on par with the 2012 Denver Broncos coughing up the game-tying, 70-yard TD pass when the Ravens had no timeouts and only 30 seconds left to play in the 4th quarter of that season's divisional playoff game. That gaffe cost Peyton Manning a chance to beat Brady in yet another conference championship game (Manning's teams were 3-1 in such games against Brady's teams when Manning retired), and what very well may have been a 3rd Super Bowl ring (in addition to the one that he won 6 years earlier, and the 2nd one that he won 3 years later.)

o






Agree on all 3 points, C&O. It was ridiculous that the refs decided to finally call PI on that play. While it was technically PI, it was less egregious than what they were allowing all game long including the INT right before the half. Why the refs are so biased to that cheating shithead is beyond me.

And the Packer's secondary allowing the WR to get by on the TD at the end of the half is one of the worst defensive plays in NFL history. Whoever blew that coverage should have been sent packing at halftime.











That was the defensive coordinators fault, they should have been playing zone. Worst-case scenario was allowing just a field goal. The Packer coaches were shit yesterday.





o

The only way that they would have gotten a field goal there is with an incomplete pass, and then the kicker makes a 66-yarder ...... IF the defense had been playing what anybody who is not acting like they live on Mars had had them playing.

The Buccaneers had no timeouts, and there were only 8 seconds left to play in the half. The Packers should have had 9 defensive backs on the field, and they literally should have positioned 6 of them on the sidelines, 5 yards apart from the line of scrimmage at the 44 yardline, the 39 yardline, and the 34 yardline ........ that would have prevented a quick, sideline pass which (if successful) would have given the Buccaneers a chance for a closer field goal attempt. The remaining 3 defensive backs should have been positioned in the middle of the field at the 5 yardline. They could have given Brady and the Buccaneers ANYTHING THAT THEY WANTED in the middle of the field, because they had 0 timeouts and there were only 8 seconds left to play. That means that they would have had no chance to spike the ball after being tackled in-bounds. It would not have mattered if Brady had hit a receiver 10 yards downfield, 20 yards downfield, or even 30 yards downfield, because in all 3 of those situations the receiver would have been tackled in-bounds to end the half.

o

[Chromeburn]

So Rodgers just said his future seems uncertain with the packers.

[Chromeburn]

o

The only way that they would have gotten a field goal there is with an incomplete pass, and then the kicker makes a 66-yarder ...... IF the defense had been playing what anybody who is not acting like they live on Mars had had them playing.

The Buccaneers had no timeouts, and there were only 8 seconds left to play in the half. The Packers should have had 9 defensive backs on the field, and they literally should have positioned 6 of them on the sidelines, 5 yards apart from the line of scrimmage at the 44 yardline, the 39 yardline, and the 34 yardline ........ that would have prevented a quick, sideline pass which (if successful) would have given the Buccaneers a chance for a closer field goal attempt. The remaining 3 defensive backs should have been positioned in the middle of the field at the 5 yardline. They could have given Brady and the Buccaneers ANYTHING THAT THEY WANTED in the middle of the field, because they had 0 timeouts and there were only 8 seconds left to play. That means that they would have had no chance to spike the ball after being tackled in-bounds. It would not have mattered if Brady had hit a receiver 10 yards downfield, 20 yards downfield, or even 30 yards downfield, because in all 3 of those situations the receiver would have been tackled in-bounds to end the half.

o

That’s like football 101. Really inexcusable that happened.

[IndyNorm]

That was the defensive coordinators fault, they should have been playing zone. Worst case scenario was allowing just a field goal. The Packer coaches were shit yesterday.

Good point. The DC should definitely be gone for that.

[HoosierinFL]

I’ve heard differently. Know a few people that work for the team and stadium. That he was contemplating it after the playoff loss. The snowboard thing was true also.

Also heard a big scandal may hit the Colts this off season, hoping it isn’t true.

well you can't leave us hanging on that!

[apballin]

well you can't leave us hanging on that!

No shit wtf

[Chromeburn]

well you can't leave us hanging on that!

I probably shouldn’t have said anything. This didn’t come from the Colt ppl I know. I could get in trouble for even saying anything. I will say it’s not cheating or anything like that. Recent PR stuff makes me think the Colts know, at least some do. Like I said, hopefully it doesn’t come to pass.

[Chromeburn]

Stafford likes the Colts?

(https://www.stampedeblue.com/2021/1/25/22249019/report-lions-qb-matthew-stafford-most-definitely-has-his-eyes-on-the-colts-starting-qb-opening)

[Maniac]

Stafford likes the Colts?

(https://www.stampedeblue.com/2021/1/25/22249019/report-lions-qb-matthew-stafford-most-definitely-has-his-eyes-on-the-colts-starting-qb-opening)

It makes the most sense. Great front office. QB friendly coach. Good o-line (before Castanzo retired). Young WR's. Very good RB's. Young defense that is pretty good. It's an ideal situation to win now for an older QB.

[Racehorse]

Stafford likes the Colts?

(https://www.stampedeblue.com/2021/1/25/22249019/report-lions-qb-matthew-stafford-most-definitely-has-his-eyes-on-the-colts-starting-qb-opening)

Tons of negative comments to that article.

[Puck]

I wanted Stafford last yr before they signed Rivers. I may be the only one on this site but I loved the Rivers signing. Hated that dude for 16 yrs but getting to know him through listening to the players and team and his own comments. I can see why the Charger fans loved him

Go get Stafford Chis!!!!

[rcubed]

I wanted Stafford last yr before they signed Rivers. I may be the only one on this site but I loved the Rivers signing. Hated that dude for 16 yrs but getting to know him through listening to the players and team and his own comments. I can see why the Charger fans loved him

Go get Stafford Chis!!!!


I agreed with you Puck, I liked the rivers signing as it made sense at the time. Also being in socal i got to see rivers a lot and didn’t have the hate others did. I got the sense people hated him because of the trash talking, but he always seemed good natured about it.

They do need to address QB long term so whoever it is, I hope its sustained success. I dont want to bounce year to year.


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[Chromeburn]

Tons of negative comments to that article.

People don't want to give up draft picks, especially with big holes to fill.

[Puck]

People don't want to give up draft picks, especially with big holes to fill.

NOT PICKING AT YOU CHROME

Good Lord. People ..... (even on this site which I think has the most knowledgeable colts fans for the most part)..... thought that Bucker was a bad idea when we "needed" a QB.

We were a couple of plays/decisions from being 13-3 winning the South and being the 2 seed by trading for Buckner and signing Rivers along with a great draft.

The people that want Eason either cannot understand that the coaches see these players every freakin day or think they know more!!!!!

Remember the outrage when Quincy Wilson wasn't starting/playing? Pags was 100% right. the kid was a BAD player. How about Dione Cain? Holy shit everyone wanted him to be the next TY. He sucked and still does. Again coaches were right! How about Mike Hart? How about the little receiver that played agains third stringers in preseason? (don't remember his name) He was gonna be an all star.

Guys.... have faith in the coaches. Whether you all like it or not they know WAY more than us.

I'd love Eason to be the man. Hell I was on the bandwagon as soon as Dam showed some videos. Kid has some talent, just must not translate to the NFL yet. I'd rather have him sit and learn more before ruining the kid by rushing him along.

NFL teams have a very little time window to make the run. We are there NOW cannot waste time HOPING that a 4th round pick can get us there. Look at last yrs draft. Burrow, Tua, Herbert and Love. Hell I'll throw in Hurts. Do any of you think that they would have faired better than Rivers? I'm including Burrow in that question. I say no

Adding Stafford would give us a shot (like it did with Rivers) at winning it all. That doesn't come along very often. Rebuild after they give it everything they have now!!

Go get it while you can

Do something BALLARD!!!!

[rcubed]

Deon. Fucking. Cain.

Nuf said.


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[smitty46953]

NOT PICKING AT YOU CHROME

Good Lord. People ..... (even on this site which I think has the most knowledgeable colts fans for the most part)..... thought that Bucker was a bad idea when we "needed" a QB.

We were a couple of plays/decisions from being 13-3 winning the South and being the 2 seed by trading for Buckner and signing Rivers along with a great draft.

The people that want Eason either cannot understand that the coaches see these players every freakin day or think they know more!!!!!

Remember the outrage when Quincy Wilson wasn't starting/playing? Pags was 100% right. the kid was a BAD player. How about Dione Cain? Holy shit everyone wanted him to be the next TY. He sucked and still does. Again coaches were right! How about Mike Hart? How about the little receiver that played agains third stringers in preseason? (don't remember his name) He was gonna be an all star.

Guys.... have faith in the coaches. Whether you all like it or not they know WAY more than us.

I'd love Eason to be the man. Hell I was on the bandwagon as soon as Dam showed some videos. Kid has some talent, just must not translate to the NFL yet. I'd rather have him sit and learn more before ruining the kid by rushing him along.

NFL teams have a very little time window to make the run. We are there NOW cannot waste time HOPING that a 4th round pick can get us there. Look at last yrs draft. Burrow, Tua, Herbert and Love. Hell I'll throw in Hurts. Do any of you think that they would have faired better than Rivers? I'm including Burrow in that question. I say no

Adding Stafford would give us a shot (like it did with Rivers) at winning it all. That doesn't come along very often. Rebuild after they give it everything they have now!!

Go get it while you can

Do something BALLARD!!!!

Spot on !!! :cool:

[Chaka]

NOT PICKING AT YOU CHROME

Good Lord. People ..... (even on this site which I think has the most knowledgeable colts fans for the most part)..... thought that Bucker was a bad idea when we "needed" a QB.

We were a couple of plays/decisions from being 13-3 winning the South and being the 2 seed by trading for Buckner and signing Rivers along with a great draft.

The people that want Eason either cannot understand that the coaches see these players every freakin day or think they know more!!!!!

Remember the outrage when Quincy Wilson wasn't starting/playing? Pags was 100% right. the kid was a BAD player. How about Dione Cain? Holy shit everyone wanted him to be the next TY. He sucked and still does. Again coaches were right! How about Mike Hart? How about the little receiver that played agains third stringers in preseason? (don't remember his name) He was gonna be an all star.

Guys.... have faith in the coaches. Whether you all like it or not they know WAY more than us.

I'd love Eason to be the man. Hell I was on the bandwagon as soon as Dam showed some videos. Kid has some talent, just must not translate to the NFL yet. I'd rather have him sit and learn more before ruining the kid by rushing him along.

NFL teams have a very little time window to make the run. We are there NOW cannot waste time HOPING that a 4th round pick can get us there. Look at last yrs draft. Burrow, Tua, Herbert and Love. Hell I'll throw in Hurts. Do any of you think that they would have faired better than Rivers? I'm including Burrow in that question. I say no

Adding Stafford would give us a shot (like it did with Rivers) at winning it all. That doesn't come along very often. Rebuild after they give it everything they have now!!

Go get it while you can

Do something BALLARD!!!!

Amen brother! I don't get these people who want to place an inexperienced QB at the head of this offense. The Colts have a championship caliber supporting cast already - they don't have the time to provide on-the-job training to a new QB.

[apballin]

Amen brother! I don't get these people who want to place an inexperienced QB at the head of this offense. The Colts have a championship caliber supporting cast already - they don't have the time to provide on-the-job training to a new QB.

On the job training surrounded by elite talent because of the financial freedom a young qb brings. He’d have to do less to win as opposed to the vet qb digging into the salary making the roster weaker

[Chaka]

On the job training surrounded by elite talent because of the financial freedom a young qb brings. He’d have to do less to win as opposed to the vet qb digging into the salary making the roster weaker

I get what you are saying, but history hasn't been kind to first year QBs, particularly those who were not drafted at the very top of the first round.

Mahomes, Jackson, Rodgers and many, many others needed at least a year of backup duty before they were ready to take over the reins. As far as Eason is concerned, it would be great if he was ready, but we're not hearing that from anyone at this point and he's had no in-game experience whatsoever to this point. Now, Ballard's Colts are notoriously tight-lipped, so that doesn't necessary mean anything, but he is relatively straightforward when he provides updates and I haven't heard him say anything to suggest that Eason will be the guy next year.

[Dam8610]

NOT PICKING AT YOU CHROME

Good Lord. People ..... (even on this site which I think has the most knowledgeable colts fans for the most part)..... thought that Bucker was a bad idea when we "needed" a QB.

We were a couple of plays/decisions from being 13-3 winning the South and being the 2 seed by trading for Buckner and signing Rivers along with a great draft.

The people that want Eason either cannot understand that the coaches see these players every freakin day or think they know more!!!!!

Remember the outrage when Quincy Wilson wasn't starting/playing? Pags was 100% right. the kid was a BAD player. How about Dione Cain? Holy shit everyone wanted him to be the next TY. He sucked and still does. Again coaches were right! How about Mike Hart? How about the little receiver that played agains third stringers in preseason? (don't remember his name) He was gonna be an all star.

Guys.... have faith in the coaches. Whether you all like it or not they know WAY more than us.

I'd love Eason to be the man. Hell I was on the bandwagon as soon as Dam showed some videos. Kid has some talent, just must not translate to the NFL yet. I'd rather have him sit and learn more before ruining the kid by rushing him along.

NFL teams have a very little time window to make the run. We are there NOW cannot waste time HOPING that a 4th round pick can get us there. Look at last yrs draft. Burrow, Tua, Herbert and Love. Hell I'll throw in Hurts. Do any of you think that they would have faired better than Rivers? I'm including Burrow in that question. I say no

Adding Stafford would give us a shot (like it did with Rivers) at winning it all. That doesn't come along very often. Rebuild after they give it everything they have now!!

Go get it while you can

Do something BALLARD!!!!

This is exactly how I hope the Colts are thinking. Acquiring Stafford would give the Colts a Top 10-12 QB at Teddy Bridgewater money (current deal is 2/$43 if traded to Indy). I already laid out the deal that I think gets it done: Stafford for the Colts 2021 1st round pick and a 2022 2nd round pick with an escalator clause that turns it into a 2022 1st round pick if Stafford is First Team All-Pro or the Colts reach the Super Bowl in 2021. Maybe on the latter clause I could be negotiated down to AFCCG, but that would make the intent very clear: this is a team playing for and ready to compete for a championship. You then go sign Trent Williams as a stopgap at LT and I think we're looking at a Colts team that can compete with Kansas City, and a much worse Colts team beat them just last year. I agree, now is the time to pull the trigger. Hopefully Ballard does.

On the job training surrounded by elite talent because of the financial freedom a young qb brings. He’d have to do less to win as opposed to the vet qb digging into the salary making the roster weaker

You do realize Stafford's deal is about as team friendly as it gets for an elite QB, right? He'd have a cap hit of $14 million in 2021 were he traded here. The Colts could actually shop for free agent upgrades if they traded for Stafford. Trent Williams and Yannick Ngakoue would look good in Colts blue alongside Stafford.

[Chromeburn]

This is exactly how I hope the Colts are thinking. Acquiring Stafford would give the Colts a Top 10-12 QB at Teddy Bridgewater money (current deal is 2/$43 if traded to Indy). I already laid out the deal that I think gets it done: Stafford for the Colts 2021 1st round pick and a 2022 2nd round pick with an escalator clause that turns it into a 2022 1st round pick if Stafford is First Team All-Pro or the Colts reach the Super Bowl in 2021. Maybe on the latter clause I could be negotiated down to AFCCG, but that would make the intent very clear: this is a team playing for and ready to compete for a championship. You then go sign Trent Williams as a stopgap at LT and I think we're looking at a Colts team that can compete with Kansas City, and a much worse Colts team beat them just last year. I agree, now is the time to pull the trigger. Hopefully Ballard does.



You do realize Stafford's deal is about as team friendly as it gets for an elite QB, right? He'd have a cap hit of $14 million in 2021 were he traded here. The Colts could actually shop for free agent upgrades if they traded for Stafford. Trent Williams and Yannick Ngakoue would look good in Colts blue alongside Stafford.

We need a vet WR in there too probably. Along with hopefully another good drafted WR.

[njcoltfan]

This is exactly how I hope the Colts are thinking. Acquiring Stafford would give the Colts a Top 10-12 QB at Teddy Bridgewater money (current deal is 2/$43 if traded to Indy). I already laid out the deal that I think gets it done: Stafford for the Colts 2021 1st round pick and a 2022 2nd round pick with an escalator clause that turns it into a 2022 1st round pick if Stafford is First Team All-Pro or the Colts reach the Super Bowl in 2021. Maybe on the latter clause I could be negotiated down to AFCCG, but that would make the intent very clear: this is a team playing for and ready to compete for a championship. You then go sign Trent Williams as a stopgap at LT and I think we're looking at a Colts team that can compete with Kansas City, and a much worse Colts team beat them just last year. I agree, now is the time to pull the trigger. Hopefully Ballard does.



You do realize Stafford's deal is about as team friendly as it gets for an elite QB, right? He'd have a cap hit of $14 million in 2021 were he traded here. The Colts could actually shop for free agent upgrades if they traded for Stafford. Trent Williams and Yannick Ngakoue would look good in Colts blue alongside Stafford.
Lets not be naive, you don't think he's going to go to a new team without renegotiating his present contract, do you? Especially the Colts knowing their cap space, and the pickle their in regarding the QB position!!

[apballin]

I trust Ballard just don’t give up too much for him Chris but it would make us better so fuck it

[Maniac]

A lot of speculation that Rodgers may force his way out of Green Bay. He's an asshole, but a hell of a talent. I would be ok with either him or Stafford.

[Dam8610]

Lets not be naive, you don't think he's going to go to a new team without renegotiating his present contract, do you? Especially the Colts knowing their cap space, and the pickle their in regarding the QB position!!

Why do you think that? The Colts might extend him, but having a talent like Stafford at QB for a $14 million 2021 cap hit at a time when the cap is going to massively hamper several teams is something that could allow the Colts to leverage the market to their advantage.

[njcoltfan]

Why do you think that? The Colts might extend him, but having a talent like Stafford at QB for a $14 million 2021 cap hit at a time when the cap is going to massively hamper several teams is something that could allow the Colts to leverage the market to their advantage.

I just think that he's going to want to renegotiate his present contract, he also knows that 14m is unbelievably low for a franchise QB.

[albany ed]

I just think that he's going to want to renegotiate his present contract, he also knows that 14m is unbelievably low for a franchise QB.

If he has the leverage to void trades, that strengthens his ability to renegotiate his contract, but it also diminishes his trade value and some teams that are nearly cap strapped will be out of the running This could mean getting him at a cheaper trade price.

[Dam8610]

I just think that he's going to want to renegotiate his present contract, he also knows that 14m is unbelievably low for a franchise QB.

His cap hit with the Lions is $33 million. He was already playing on a $14 million base salary this year. If he came here, why would he want to hurt the Colts ability to put the best team around him?

[Puck]

More on Jaime Newman from Senior bowl

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2021/1/27/22251404/senior-bowl-standouts-american-team-day-1

Perhaps the best performance of the day came from someone who didn’t play at all in 2020. The day started for Newman with weigh-ins where his hands measured a large 10 inches from thumb to pinkie. That’s really good. I know many people tend to roll their eyes at things like hand measurements, but there’s a reason NFL teams still want to know how big QB hands are. Historically the most successful quarterbacks have had large hands, that’s not to say that large hands predict success, but some league evaluators believe that large hands will allow some quarterbacks to have the success they wouldn’t have otherwise.

Beyond that measurement, Newman looked like the best quarterback at the Senior Bowl. While that may not be as high of a bar as it was last year, Newman did look better than possible late first-round pick, Mac Jones of the Alabama Crimson Tide. Newman has a big arm and threw well all day long. If Newman keeps up this pace, he might have literally made himself millions of dollars this week in Mobile.

[njcoltfan]

His cap hit with the Lions is $33 million. He was already playing on a $14 million base salary this year. If he came here, why would he want to hurt the Colts ability to put the best team around him?

I just have a feeling that he might want to negotiate his final contract, with whoever winds up getting him.

[rcubed]

Irsay quote looks like he thinks a vet would be best currently.

“Our belief is we’re close, that we have a tremendous nucleus of players that are capable of competing for the Super Bowl very soon,” Irsay said, via Zak Keefer of TheAthletic.com. “Ideally if you can get someone to come in this year who’s ready to go, it gives you your best opportunity.”

But then goes on to say

“If we can get the great young guy, the one you can build around for 15 years, that’s ideal, but if not, there’s other ways to get it done,” Irsay said, via Joel A. Erickson of the Indianapolis Star.


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[Oldcolt]

I just have a feeling that he might want to negotiate his final contract, with whoever winds up getting him.

It looks more and more like it may take more than a number one to get him. If you go that route you might as well go all in with Stafford. You've already committed a lot of resources so why hedge your bets? If that is really the case Ballard better be damn sure he is the one. I have trust that Ballard will not make an emotional decision.

[Dam8610]

I just have a feeling that he might want to negotiate his final contract, with whoever winds up getting him.

Why would that involve his 2021 cap hit increasing?

[Dam8610]

Any possibility that Jameis Winston could be a Colts target? I know he was a turnover machine in Tampa, but Reich has a reputation for fixing talented QBs, Winston's talent is undeniable, he's only 27, and likely won't cost starter money. The answer is likely no, but it's an intriguing possibility.

[apballin]

Any possibility that Jameis Winston could be a Colts target? I know he was a turnover machine in Tampa, but Reich has a reputation for fixing talented QBs, Winston's talent is undeniable, he's only 27, and likely won't cost starter money. The answer is likely no, but it's an intriguing possibility.

I just can’t see it, Colts seem to only want good guys on and off the field

[rcubed]

Any possibility that Jameis Winston could be a Colts target? I know he was a turnover machine in Tampa, but Reich has a reputation for fixing talented QBs, Winston's talent is undeniable, he's only 27, and likely won't cost starter money. The answer is likely no, but it's an intriguing possibility.
not intriguing

[Dewey 5]

Not sure how feel about this but there is no way they move up to get Fields anyway.
https://www.stampedeblue.com/2021/1/30/22256834/colts-rumored-to-only-have-their-eyes-on-ohio-state-qb-justin-fields-among-the-drafts-top-prospects

[Chromeburn]

Not sure how feel about this but there is no way they move up to get Fields anyway.
https://www.stampedeblue.com/2021/1/30/22256834/colts-rumored-to-only-have-their-eyes-on-ohio-state-qb-justin-fields-among-the-drafts-top-prospects

I’m a little wary about Fields bc he sometimes takes too long to diagnose. He is talented though and when on he is deadly.

[Dam8610]

I’m a little wary about Fields bc he sometimes takes too long to diagnose.

Exactly. He holds the ball like Big Ben used to, he doesn't have the size of Big Ben to absorb the punishment that can cause, but he does have the athleticism to escape and make plays. I'd be thrilled if the Colts somehow got him, and I'd trust Ballard and Reich to make him a great QB, but part of me also sees this as a smokescreen. I can't imagine Ballard and Reich not liking at least one of Zach Wilson and Mac Jones.

[Maniac]

Go after either Rodgers or Jordan Love now that Stafford is not an option.

[HoosierinFL]

NO Ohio state players!

[JAFF]

If Dak Prescott actually makes it to free agency, he'd be worth a look, but I doubt he will. Stafford or Wentz would require a trade, Ryan might. If they're willing to invest the 21st pick in a QB, I'd go for Mac Jones and bring in a journeyman as competition. I think Jones is the most NFL ready in this draft, though.

Sam Darnold lite

[JAFF]

I just think that he's going to want to renegotiate his present contract, he also knows that 14m is unbelievably low for a franchise QB.

Stop making sense.

[JAFF]

His cap hit with the Lions is $33 million. He was already playing on a $14 million base salary this year. If he came here, why would he want to hurt the Colts ability to put the best team around him?

Because this is his LAST contract and last chance of maximizing his earning potential. What did the colts pay rivers this last year $25 million? And he’s going to settle for less?

Stop living in fantasy land and join the real world. This is about playing football and getting paid and if you’re going to risk your ass you might as well get paid well

[Mr. Session]

If Dak Prescott actually makes it to free agency, he'd be worth a look, but I doubt he will. Stafford or Wentz would require a trade, Ryan might. If they're willing to invest the 21st pick in a QB, I'd go for Mac Jones and bring in a journeyman as competition. I think Jones is the most NFL ready in this draft, though.

Yeah. What a stud.

https://i.redd.it/jkwghxlssoe61.jpg

[Dam8610]

Because this is his LAST contract and last chance of maximizing his earning potential. What did the colts pay rivers this last year $25 million? And he’s going to settle for less?

Stop living in fantasy land and join the real world. This is about playing football and getting paid and if you’re going to risk your ass you might as well get paid well

Contract extensions typically involve adding years to a deal, and those years typically have all the new/big money, plus part of the appeal of Stafford would've been having a franchise caliber QB at a bargain cap hit while the pandemic is affecting the cap.

Yeah. What a stud.

https://i.redd.it/jkwghxlssoe61.jpg

If he's able to do what he does on the field in that kind of shape, getting him in an NFL strength and conditioning program will be even more advantageous than I'd originally thought. Obviously workout bonuses should be negotiated into the contract.

[JAFF]

Contract extensions typically involve adding years to a deal, and those years typically have all the new/big money, plus part of the appeal of Stafford would've been having a franchise caliber QB at a bargain cap hit while the pandemic is affecting the cap.



If he's able to do what he does on the field in that kind of shape, getting him in an NFL strength and conditioning program will be even more advantageous than I'd originally thought. Obviously workout bonuses should be negotiated into the contract.

If wishes were horses beggers would ride. What the ? Is keeping him from getting in shape right now?

[Dam8610]

If wishes were horses beggers would ride. What the ? Is keeping him from getting in shape right now?

My guess is the 4.0 GPA and Master's degree in 4 years while being the starting QB on the best team in college football for 1.5 years of that.

[Chromeburn]

Yeah. What a stud.

https://i.redd.it/jkwghxlssoe61.jpg

Jesus. I know QBs can be kinda divas when it comes to lifting. But do push-ups and crunches at least. I’m in better shape than he is.

[JAFF]

My guess is the 4.0 GPA and Master's degree in 4 years while being the starting QB on the best team in college football for 1.5 years of that.

Manning did that and didnt look like a fat frat boy

[Puck]

Go after either Rodgers or Jordan Love now that Stafford is not an option.

Jordan love sucks dude. Rogers has some bargaining power with anything he does otherwise he can just tell the Packers. I'll retire and you have Jordan. The Pack knows that they are in a horrible situation if Rogers retires, sits, asks for a trade etc. They will be fucked with Love at QB.

[Maniac]

Jordan love sucks dude. Rogers has some bargaining power with anything he does otherwise he can just tell the Packers. I'll retire and you have Jordan. The Pack knows that they are in a horrible situation if Rogers retires, sits, asks for a trade etc. They will be fucked with Love at QB.

How do you know he sucks? Have you seen him play in the NFL?

There was a rumor that Ballard contacted the Packers about Jordan Love's availability. Either the rumor was wrong, or Ballard doesn't agree with you that he sucks.

[apballin]

How do you know he sucks? Have you seen him play in the NFL?

There was a rumor that Ballard contacted the Packers about Jordan Love's availability. Either the rumor was wrong, or Ballard doesn't agree with you that he sucks.

Yea no way you can say he sucks

[apballin]

Yeah. What a stud.

https://i.redd.it/jkwghxlssoe61.jpg

Not putting stock into how the dudes built, not many qbs are “chiseled” and usually the ones that are suck

[Chromeburn]

So Goff and Stafford are settled.

Now that leaves the draft, FA and the QB's affected.

Jets - Darnold
Dolphins - Tua
Falcons - Matt Ryan
Eagles - Wentz and Hurts

Then you got Dak, Jacoby, Winston

And draft picks Lawrence, Wilson, Fields, Lance, Jones, Trask

[Dam8610]

Manning did that and didnt look like a fat frat boy

Manning got a Bachelor's in 3 years. Impressive, but not the same thing. Also, that would've given him the entire fourth year to focus on strength and conditioning, instead of getting a Master's degree while starting the entire season.

[apballin]

So Goff and Stafford are settled.

Now that leaves the draft, FA and the QB's affected.

Jets - Darnold
Dolphins - Tua
Falcons - Matt Ryan
Eagles - Wentz and Hurts

Then you got Dak, Jacoby, Winston

And draft picks Lawrence, Wilson, Fields, Lance, Jones, Trask

Of all those listed I’m most intrigued by Trey Lance, other then that just roll with Eason and spend $$ on d-line and skill positions WR/TE

[smitty46953]

Just a thought, Matt Rhule just coached in the senior bowl. Panthers have the 8th pick and could go with a QB perhaps making Teddy Bridgewater available? Any thoughts on him? :cool:

[TheMugwump]

Yeah. What a stud.

https://i.redd.it/jkwghxlssoe61.jpg

Not saying the kid's a Brady, and really not taking sides, but at least he was happy looking compared to this dud.

https://arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-bostonglobe.s3.amazonaws.com/public/B3PCB4SZWAI6VOS4EUBQ3NKZXA.jpg

[Mr. Session]

Not putting stock into how the dudes built, not many qbs are “chiseled” and usually the ones that are suck

Nah, Fuck that

https://sportsfromthecheapseats.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/peyton_manning_shirtless.jpg

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimagez.tmz.com%2Fimage%2Fd5%2F16b y9%2F2018%2F08%2F10%2Fd59bf79a04225231a32d1012bfeb 743f_xl.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

Y'all need more gay porn or are we good?

[Ironshaft]

Just a thought, Matt Rhule just coached in the senior bowl. Panthers have the 8th pick and could go with a QB perhaps making Teddy Bridgewater available? Any thoughts on him? :cool:

My feeling is that there are no "sure fire" long-term solutions at QB for the Colts this season.

I don't think drafting a rookie is in the cards because Ballard seems more in a "win now" type of situation than waiting 1 or 3 years for a rookie QB to develop.

My guess is that we are going to get one of the long-term starters veterans that will not cost us draft picks to get: Cam Newton, Mitch Trubisky, Andy Dalton or Jameis Winston.

I don't know that Bridgewater is any better than those guys and would cost us a draft pick to get.

A 1 or 2 season bridge to either Easton being ready to be the starter or the Colts are in a better position to find a longer term solution.

Or...a new system actually works for the underappreciated veteran.

Of course, if Dak Prescott actually makes it to free agency.....but he will not.

[Mr. Session]

My feeling is that there are no "sure fire" long-term solutions at QB for the Colts this season.

I don't think drafting a rookie is in the cards because Ballard seems more in a "win now" type of situation than waiting 1 or 3 years for a rookie QB to develop.

My guess is that we are going to get one of the long-term starters veterans that will not cost us draft picks to get: Cam Newton, Mitch Trubisky, Andy Dalton or Jameis Winston.

I don't know that Bridgewater is any better than those guys and would cost us a draft pick to get.

A 1 or 2 season bridge to either Easton being ready to be the starter or the Colts are in a better position to find a longer term solution.

Or...a new system actually works for the underappreciated veteran.

Of course, if Dak Prescott actually makes it to free agency.....but he will not.

I'm thinking it's like YDFL said. Dalton...

Maybe Winston. I can't see Trubisky and I think Newton is done.

Bring them in and let them compete with Eason this year for the job. Evaluate Eason after the season and restart the process.

[Dam8610]

Just a thought, Matt Rhule just coached in the senior bowl. Panthers have the 8th pick and could go with a QB perhaps making Teddy Bridgewater available? Any thoughts on him? :cool:

If the price is right, he's a good bridge to a QB solution.

[Chromeburn]

How do you know he sucks? Have you seen him play in the NFL?

There was a rumor that Ballard contacted the Packers about Jordan Love's availability. Either the rumor was wrong, or Ballard doesn't agree with you that he sucks.

I think that started with Dan Dakich who likes to troll the Colts, Ballard, and Colt fans. Also he likes Grigson and thinks he got shafted by a political Pagano and was better than people think. So I don’t know if I believe that rumor.

[njcoltfan]

If the price is right, he's a good bridge to a QB solution.

It's time the Colts stop fucking around with the QB position !!! If theres a guy that Ballard thinks is the next franchise QB in this years draft, than do what it takes to get him !!! The clocks ticking....tick tock tick tock......

[apballin]

Nah, Fuck that

https://sportsfromthecheapseats.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/peyton_manning_shirtless.jpg

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimagez.tmz.com%2Fimage%2Fd5%2F16b y9%2F2018%2F08%2F10%2Fd59bf79a04225231a32d1012bfeb 743f_xl.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

Y'all need more gay porn or are we good?

I’ll give you Luck but I’m calling BS That had to be a photo from high school on Manning. I’d say luck was the exception to that rule. Of all 32 starters who is really ripped like that?

[apballin]

If the price is right, he's a good bridge to a QB solution.

I’d take Walker over Bridewater

[Colts And Orioles]

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A) ) I was hoping that Rodgers and the Packers were able to repeat what Manning and the 2006 Colts did 14 years ago.

B) ) Tough break for the Packers on the pass interference call late in the 4th quarter which gave the Buccaneers a 1st down, instead of them being forced to punt.

C) ) The Packers getting burned for a 49-yard TD pass when the Buccaneers had no timeouts and only 8 seconds left to play in the 1st half was inexcusable ...... it was on par with the 2012 Denver Broncos coughing up the game-tying, 70-yard TD pass when the Ravens had no timeouts and only 30 seconds left to play in the 4th quarter of that season's divisional playoff game. That gaffe cost Peyton Manning a chance to beat Brady in yet another conference championship game (Manning's teams were 3-1 in such games against Brady's teams when Manning retired), and what very well may have been a 3rd Super Bowl ring (in addition to the one that he won 6 years earlier, and the 2nd one that he won 3 years later.)

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The only way that they would have gotten a field goal there is with an incomplete pass, and then the kicker makes a 66-yarder ...... IF the defense had been playing what anybody who is not acting like they live on Mars had had them playing.

The Buccaneers had no timeouts, and there were only 8 seconds left to play in the half. The Packers should have had 9 defensive backs on the field, and they literally should have positioned 6 of them on the sidelines, 5 yards apart from the line of scrimmage at the 44 yardline, the 39 yardline, and the 34 yardline ........ that would have prevented a quick, sideline pass which (if successful) would have given the Buccaneers a chance for a closer field goal attempt. The remaining 3 defensive backs should have been positioned in the middle of the field at the 5 yardline. They could have given Brady and the Buccaneers ANYTHING THAT THEY WANTED in the middle of the field, because they had 0 timeouts and there were only 8 seconds left to play. That means that they would have had no chance to spike the ball after being tackled in-bounds. It would not have mattered if Brady had hit a receiver 10 yards downfield, 20 yards downfield, or even 30 yards downfield, because in all 3 of those situations the receiver would have been tackled in-bounds to end the half.

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Packers Parting Ways with Defensive Coordinator Mike Pettine

(By Ryan Wood)

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2021/01/29/green-bay-packers-parting-ways-defensive-coordinator-mike-pettine/4292184001/

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[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

How do you know he sucks? Have you seen him play in the NFL?

Yea no way you can say he sucks

There were plenty of reports that Jordan Love had a terrible training camp. He showed a few flashes of potential, but more often than not, he left everyone wondering - Why did GB trade up to draft him in the first round? He didn't look like a first round QB in practice.

Does that mean he is a bust? There is no way to know at this point in time. Especially with COVID-19 impacting practices during preseason camp and during the regular season this past year.

Love's season was nearly identical to Eason's. He was Green Bay's QB3 and didn't see much practice time this year.

When everyone was speculating about Rodgers future - the article below mentioned that if Rodgers left, Tim Boyle (their back-up QB) would be more suited to start games next year than Love. Hopefully Love learned what it takes to be a NFL QB and has determined what he needs to work on this offseason so that he is better prepared for next season.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30776565/would-aaron-rodgers-leave-green-bay-packers-split-mean-sides

Is Love ready?
Nothing he has shown, at least publicly, would suggest that. But that's no surprise given that he has taken third-string reps going all the way back to training camp. Reporters are allowed to watch only one period of individual or group drills during practices. But even during those viewing sessions, Love has struggled with accuracy -- in the drill where quarterbacks throw to a stationary target (usually a net) and to players running routes on air (without a defender).

Backup Tim Boyle would be more suited to play in 2021 than Love. There's also the possibility that the Packers could trade Love like the Patriots did with Jimmy Garoppolo. That would be one way to tell Rodgers they're committed to him long-term, and then they could try again with another quarterback in a future draft.

[Mr. Session]

I’ll give you Luck but I’m calling BS That had to be a photo from high school on Manning. I’d say luck was the exception to that rule. Of all 32 starters who is really ripped like that?

I'm just bullshitting dude, relax.

lol.

[Dam8610]

I think that started with Dan Dakich who likes to troll the Colts, Ballard, and Colt fans. Also he likes Grigson and thinks he got shafted by a political Pagano and was better than people think. So I don’t know if I believe that rumor.

So Omaha is Dan Dakich?

I’d take Walker over Bridewater

You would've taken Brian Price over Ndamukong Suh, and that statement is similarly bad.

Anyway, back to the OP topic, I think Matt Ryan is the next domino and I think he's the best veteran option at this point. How much will he cost?

[jasperhobbs]

What I find interesting is Ballard and Reich talk about getting a young QB that can be the starter the next 10+ years. They never mention Jacob Eason as even being in the picture.

[apballin]

So Omaha is Dan Dakich?



You would've taken Brian Price over Ndamukong Suh, and that statement is similarly bad.

Anyway, back to the OP topic, I think Matt Ryan is the next domino and I think he's the best veteran option at this point. How much will he cost?

Walker has potential bridgewaters best days are behind him he’s an average game manager

Yea and fuck Matt Ryan, I’m over the old vets at the end of their career fuck that shit

[Dam8610]

What I find interesting is Ballard and Reich talk about getting a young QB that can be the starter the next 10+ years. They never mention Jacob Eason as even being in the picture.

And Irsay keeps talking about a vet and winning now. I know many have mentioned Darnold, but that doesn't seem to go with Irsay's rhetoric at all. Yes, he's a veteran, and yes, at 23 he could have a long NFL career ahead of him, but I doubt anyone would argue he's the type of QB Irsay talked about in his year end presser. I will say this, if they do go with Darnold, I'll be excited for it, because that means both Ballard and Reich believe enough in him to risk their careers on him.

[apballin]

And Irsay keeps talking about a vet and winning now. I know many have mentioned Darnold, but that doesn't seem to go with Irsay's rhetoric at all. Yes, he's a veteran, and yes, at 23 he could have a long NFL career ahead of him, but I doubt anyone would argue he's the type of QB Irsay talked about in his year end presser. I will say this, if they do go with Darnold, I'll be excited for it, because that means both Ballard and Reich believe enough in him to risk their careers on him.

What’s your take on Trey Lance?

[smitty46953]

Just a thought, Matt Rhule just coached in the senior bowl. Panthers have the 8th pick and could go with a QB perhaps making Teddy Bridgewater available? Any thoughts on him? :cool:

Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer reports the Panthers offered the Lions the No. 8 overall pick plus a "later" selection for Matthew Stafford.
Per Breer, the Washington Football Team also offered the No. 19 pick plus a third-rounder. NBC's Peter King reports at least one other team offered a first-rounder. :cool:

[albany ed]

What I find interesting is Ballard and Reich talk about getting a young QB that can be the starter the next 10+ years. They never mention Jacob Eason as even being in the picture.

I guess I missed where they said this. Can you give me a link to that?

[Chromeburn]

Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer reports the Panthers offered the Lions the No. 8 overall pick plus a "later" selection for Matthew Stafford.
Per Breer, the Washington Football Team also offered the No. 19 pick plus a third-rounder. NBC's Peter King reports at least one other team offered a first-rounder. :cool:

McVay is super popular around the league also. They were a few plays away from beating the pats with Goff. Stafford seemed to want to go their first also. You just have more marketing opportunities in LA. Plus, the Rams offer was just flat out better than everyone else’s.

[Oldcolt]

Breer also said that the Colts never offered their #1 for Stafford. Ballard must not have thought he was the answer long term. He won't overpay. He has made it clear what a mistake that is. I don't think he would be afraid to continue to build this team as a team and have different quarterbacks every few years until he finds one he really likes and can get. You don't need a great quarterback to win the Super Bowl and having one doesn't guarantee shit (as a Colt fan I felt we had a better, in most instances much better, quarterback than the teams that beat us in the playoffs for the past couple of decades). It is an interesting time to be a Colt fan.

[Chaka]

Breer says one thing, King says another. I question whether either of these guys (or the various other media members who have commented) knows what really went down, at least with respect to the Colts.

[rcubed]

Colts sign a QB!!!


Jalen Morton...?


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[Dam8610]

What’s your take on Trey Lance?

Has a strong arm and good athleticism. Usually has good ball placement on throws. Doesn't go through many progressions or do a whole lot of reading of defenses, so definitely not someone I would make a Day 1 starter. Could become elite with the right development team. May need his team to tailor his offense to his skillset like Lamar Jackson.

[Colts And Orioles]

Colts sign a QB !!!


Jalen Morton ....... ???





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He was a 5th-year senior for Division I-AA Prairie View A&M in 2019.

I did some deducing from 2 separate websites to get his stats for that senior season. I took his career stats from one site, and subtracted his previous seasons playing QB (2016 and 2018) from another ...... he apparently only played running back in 2017, in which he had 8 carries for 65 yards.




https://sports.yahoo.com/colts-sign-j-j-nelson-203827267.html


https://pvpanthers.com/sports/football/roster/jalen-morton/4067




(CAREER)


372 for 695 (54%) for 5,237 Yards Passing. ll. 14.1 Yards-Per-Completion. ll. 7.4 Yards-Per-Attempt. ll. 42 TD Passes, 29 INT's.

1,579 Yards Rushing on 260 Carries. lll 6.1 Yards-Per-Attempt. lll 22 Rushing Touchdowns.



2019 Season (5th Year Senior)


149 for 248 (60%) for 2,133 Yards Passing. llll 14.3 Yards-Per-Completion. llll 8.6 Yards-Per-Attempt. llll 17 TD Passes, 10 INT's.

450 Yards Rushing on 74 Carries. llllllllll 6.1 Yards-Per-Attempt. lllll 9. Rushing Touchdowns.

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[jasperhobbs]

Colts sign a QB!!!


Jalen Morton...?


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Jalen Morton will be the starting quarterback for the Colts this season and the start of a hall of fame career and 4 super bowl wins. You heard it here first.

[jasperhobbs]

What I find interesting is Ballard and Reich talk about getting a young QB that can be the starter the next 10+ years. They never mention Jacob Eason as even being in the picture.

I guess I missed where they said this. Can you give me a link to that?

Below is from stampede blue.

“That being said, we’ll just have to see where opportunity pushes us because we really would love to be able to get a great young quarterback and obviously, there’s some out there that have been talked about that’s coming out in this draft,” said team owner Jim Irsay last week in his end-of-season press conference.

“. . . Again, if we could find a young guy, that’s always going to be our focus in the draft, get the guy you can build around for the next 15 years so to speak, that’s ideal. But if not, there’s a lot of ways to get it done.”

[JAFF]

Has a strong arm and good athleticism. Usually has good ball placement on throws. Doesn't go through many progressions or do a whole lot of reading of defenses, so definitely not someone I would make a Day 1 starter. Could become elite with the right development team. May need his team to tailor his offense to his skillset like Lamar Jackson.

And that team will wind up with a guy who runs after his first option isnt open. Its the same offense that Wentz used when he was a ND. Same results as with Philly. Same results as Baltimore, a one dimensional offense with a Qb who has never had to face tough pass coverage in college because he could beat teams with his legs.

It’s only my thoughts, I watched my fair share of football. And it makes no sense to take a young kid from a division 2 school, and try to turn him into an NFL quarterback and one off-season.

They can’t find a player in the college ranks who has the skills and head for the NFL game, they might as well just go into the season with Eason and fill in the blank vet who can execute a game plan.

[apballin]

Has a strong arm and good athleticism. Usually has good ball placement on throws. Doesn't go through many progressions or do a whole lot of reading of defenses, so definitely not someone I would make a Day 1 starter. Could become elite with the right development team. May need his team to tailor his offense to his skillset like Lamar Jackson.

I’d say Reich is capable of doing that, would you consider him a possible qb for the next 10 years?

[Oldcolt]

Jalen Morton will be the starting quarterback for the Colts this season and the start of a hall of fame career and 4 super bowl wins. You heard it here first.

He has a canon for an arm (can throw the ball 100 yards) and is smart (mechanical engineer). We got lucky as an organization with Johnny U why not again?

[Dam8610]

I’d say Reich is capable of doing that, would you consider him a possible qb for the next 10 years?

If someone can give him the ability to read defenses and stay in the pocket beyond read #2 in the progression, maybe. The reason I'm hesitant on Lance is the same reason I want Mac Jones in a Colts jersey: it's all about the processor. Trey Lance will likely need 3 years, at least one of it on the job training, to properly process progressions and read an NFL defense. Mac Jones is probably ready to do that right now.

[Workhorse]

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He was a 5th-year senior for Division I-AA Prairie View A&M in 2019.

I did some deducing from 2 separate websites to get his stats for that senior season. I took his career stats from one site, and subtracted his previous seasons playing QB (2016 and 2018) from another ...... he apparently only played running back in 2017, in which he had 8 carries for 65 yards.




https://sports.yahoo.com/colts-sign-j-j-nelson-203827267.html


https://pvpanthers.com/sports/football/roster/jalen-morton/4067




(CAREER)


372 for 695 (54%) for 5,237 Yards Passing. ll. 14.1 Yards-Per-Completion. ll. 7.4 Yards-Per-Attempt. ll. 42 TD Passes, 29 INT's.

1,579 Yards Rushing on 260 Carries. lll 6.1 Yards-Per-Attempt. lll 22 Rushing Touchdowns.



2019 Season (5th Year Senior)


149 for 248 (60%) for 2,133 Yards Passing. llll 14.3 Yards-Per-Completion. llll 8.6 Yards-Per-Attempt. llll 17 TD Passes, 29 INT's.

450 Yards Rushing on 74 Carries. llllllllll 6.1 Yards-Per-Attempt. lllll 9. Rushing Touchdowns.

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He threw all 29 of his picks in his final season?

[Colts And Orioles]

He threw all 29 of his picks in his final season?





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He threw 10 INT's in his final season.

He threw 29 INT's for the 3 seasons combined in 2016, 2018, and 2019.

I neglected to change that specific number when transcribing it.

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[apballin]

We’re really sitting here analyzing a QB that ain’t gonna make the team??? (This Morton dude)

Goddam we can’t get a qb soon enough

[CanuckColt]

I kinda like Kyle Trask. QB Mobility is over rated these days.
Peyton was not mobile but he did OK.
Brady was not mobile but he did OK.

[Dewey 5]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/pat-mcafee-chris-ballard-said-212141587.html

Where are we going forward,’ I asked. And [Ballard] said ‘we were very competitive’—his exact words. ‘We were very competitive with Stafford and the Rams threw a bomb,” McAfee said on his show of the conversation he had with Ballard. “‘Good for them’ he said basically. We couldn’t do that.”

[Chromeburn]

I kinda like Kyle Trask. QB Mobility is over rated these days.
Peyton was not mobile but he did OK.
Brady was not mobile but he did OK.

True, but the league is changing some. How many young QBs do you see that fit that mold?

[JAFF]

I kinda like Kyle Trask. QB Mobility is over rated these days.
Peyton was not mobile but he did OK.
Brady was not mobile but he did OK.

But they were not statues, either. I hate saying anything positive about Tom Brady. But he’s not a statue. He slides a little to the right he slides a little to the left you don’t get a really good clean hit on him.

Peyton was very much the same way. He wasn’t gonna run for a first down but he wouldn’t try that either. He would move side to side he would step up, and sometimes he would take a hit to deliver to Ball.

Kansas City quarterback Mahomes, he doesn’t run a lot down the field unless he has a great big opening and then he gets his ass out of bounds. He slides he move side to side really well looking for receivers.

Mahomes has learned that it’s better to evade rushers and get rid of the ball than and try to run up field and get his head knocked off.

Baltimore’s quarterback who’s name escapes me right now, once he takes off he’s a runner in the defense gonna line him up and blow him up. Also once he heads up field the d backs now become tacklers, they don’t have to play pass defense, they can just attack.

It’s to the advantage of the offense for a kid like Mahomes to extend plays and run those defense of backs to exhaustion. It is to the defenses advantage to make a quarterback break and then run up Field, where they can beat him up and now he’s exhausted. Once that quarterback goes across the line of scrimmage everybody knows there’s only one thing that can happen and that’s a run. Sure you give up some yards but in the long run You get a free shot on the quarterback and you wear him out. And now it’s harder for him to put his foot in the ground and then let loose with a pass downfield.

Football is a war of attrition it always has been. If your quarterback keeps giving up the advantage of making plays behind the line of scrimmage you put the defense in a much better position for an entire game.

[Dam8610]

I kinda like Kyle Trask. QB Mobility is over rated these days.
Peyton was not mobile but he did OK.
Brady was not mobile but he did OK.

I think Trask is a bit overrated, especially having Kyle Pitts as his #1 receiver. We saw what he looked like against Oklahoma without Pitts. I'm not saying he doesn't have starter potential, but he's definitely a guy I'd want to sit and learn behind a veteran for at least a year.

[albany ed]

True, but the league is changing some. How many young QBs do you see that fit that mold?

True, the young QBs don't fit the pocket passer mold, but it's still early in their careers. If mobile QBs begin to break down like RBs after 5 to 7 years, teams will once again design their offense for pocket QBs that have a better shot at longevity. Brady is a freak on nature, but still, the QBs that last the longest are the QBs that didn't take a pounding running the ball. Let's see how long these young turks last before saying no way to a promising QB with little mobility but all the other tools.

[Chromeburn]

True, the young QBs don't fit the pocket passer mold, but it's still early in their careers. If mobile QBs begin to break down like RBs after 5 to 7 years, teams will once again design their offense for pocket QBs that have a better shot at longevity. Brady is a freak on nature, but still, the QBs that last the longest are the QBs that didn't take a pounding running the ball. Let's see how long these young turks last before saying no way to a promising QB with little mobility but all the other tools.

Smart scramblers will last longer, Wilson will last longer than Allen unless Allen tones it down. But until offensive lines become brick walls again, I don’t think we will go back. There have always been scramblers but it’s been increasing. The problem is that mobile QBs are the rage in high school and college and that is where your talent pool is coming from. Also OCs like it bc it still gives the play a chance to succeed. There will be exceptions, Burrow is the closest I can think of to a pocket passer.

[Dam8610]

Smart scramblers will last longer, Wilson will last longer than Allen unless Allen tones it down. But until offensive lines become brick walls again, I don’t think we will go back. There have always been scramblers but it’s been increasing. The problem is that mobile QBs are the rage in high school and college and that is where your talent pool is coming from. Also OCs like it bc it still gives the play a chance to succeed. There will be exceptions, Burrow is the closest I can think of to a pocket passer.

Burrow is an athletic pocket passer. A guy who is always going to look to throw the ball first and do everything in his power to make that happen, but if the play breaks down, can use his legs to make defenses pay. That's the new mold of NFL QB.

[Chromeburn]

Burrow is an athletic pocket passer. A guy who is always going to look to throw the ball first and do everything in his power to make that happen, but if the play breaks down, can use his legs to make defenses pay. That's the new mold of NFL QB.

He’s not very athletic compared to his peers. And he prefers to stay in the pocket if he can. He moves around very well in the pocket.

[Colts And Orioles]

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On the subject of quarterback change throughout the NFL ...... if Drew Brees retires (he is said to be making an announcement within the next week as to what his decision will be), Sean Payton has stated that he is very interested in re-signing their current 2nd-string QB, Jameis Winston.


Sean Payton: Saints have 'Big Interest' in Jameis Winston, Who Impressed in 2020

(By Luke Johnson)

https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/article_6a099480-6638-11eb-a5fa-9b826a277e23.html



We have a thread for this particular subject in the NFL forum ) ...... ) http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=186038#post186038

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[Spike]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vn18VIg8nM

Start the video at 10:53, maybe there is a slight chance we get Luck back. Damn, that would be nice. I'm sure Irsay is working his ass off to have this happen. Come back Luck, just don't run like a fucking maniac anymore.

We'll see, again it is a friend of a friend of a friend etc... that knows Luck's wife who said Luck misses football. Go get him Irsay, offer him a small percentage of the franchise.

[apballin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vn18VIg8nM

Start the video at 10:53, maybe there is a slight chance we get Luck back. Damn, that would be nice. I'm sure Irsay is working his ass off to have this happen. Come back Luck, just don't run like a fucking maniac anymore.

We'll see, again it is a friend of a friend of a friend etc... that knows Luck's wife who said Luck misses football. Go get him Irsay, offer him a small percentage of the franchise.

Fuck yes cmon Jimmy!!!

[rcubed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vn18VIg8nM

Start the video at 10:53, maybe there is a slight chance we get Luck back. Damn, that would be nice. I'm sure Irsay is working his ass off to have this happen. Come back Luck, just don't run like a fucking maniac anymore.

We'll see, again it is a friend of a friend of a friend etc... that knows Luck's wife who said Luck misses football. Go get him Irsay, offer him a small percentage of the franchise.


Sounds legit


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[Oldcolt]

The Athletic is saying the Phili is taking calls on Wentz. Ballard is going to have several ways he can go to fill the quarterback position.

[Maniac]

The Athletic is saying the Phili is taking calls on Wentz. Ballard is going to have several ways he can go to fill the quarterback position.

Of course they are. They want out of that contract.