Rivers!

[Spike]

Rivers is garbage. We aren't going anywhere anyways with him, might as well play Eason and see if he is any good. I have always despised Rivers and nothing this year has changed my mind. Fuck him and the horse he rode in with.

[Dam8610]

Rivers is garbage. We aren't going anywhere anyways with him, might as well play Eason and see if he is any good. I have always despised Rivers and nothing this year has changed my mind. Fuck him and the horse he rode in with.

They're not benching Rivers this year unless things go very poorly for the rest of the year. That said, especially the way the defense has turned out, I really wish the Colts had beat the Panthers 3/60 offer for Teddy Bridgewater. The Colts would be a Super Bowl contender with even average QB play, and Bridgewater is providing at least that.

[smitty46953]

They're not benching Rivers this year unless things go very poorly for the rest of the year. That said, especially the way the defense has turned out, I really wish the Colts had beat the Panthers 3/60 offer for Teddy Bridgewater. The Colts would be a Super Bowl contender with even average QB play, and Bridgewater is providing at least that.

Yes, Bridgewater made sense :cool:

[Chromeburn]

Bridgewater would have been a larger time commitment. I think they were just looking for a short vet stopgap till they find a young passer to build around. They are scouting the QBs for the next draft also and I think it was Dodds who went to look at the NDS QB last week.

[Dewey 5]

Rivers absolutely sucks & is washed up but Eason not close to being NFL ready. He’s a long term project.

[rcubed]

Rivers absolutely sucks & is washed up but Eason not close to being NFL ready. He’s a long term project.


...but may give us a better draft slot


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[Chromeburn]

...but may give us a better draft slot


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Is that where we are now. Say f-it to the season and play the rookie?

[albany ed]

Rivers is the starter and will start AT LEAST the next game. However, if he has another game like this past one, I'd like to see someone else under center.l

[njcoltfan]

Rivers is the starter and will start AT LEAST the next game. However, if he has another game like this past one, I'd like to see someone else under center.l
Who? There's no one on the team thats better!

[Colts And Orioles]

Rivers is the starter, and will start AT LEAST the next game ...... however, if he has another game like this past one, I'd like to see someone else under center.










Who ??? There's no one on the team that's better !!!





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In my rat's ass of an opinion, a 38 year-old Philip Rivers on a bad day is still probably still a little bit better than a 27 year-old Jacoby Brissett is on a good one.

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[Chromeburn]

Who? There's no one on the team thats better!

A few fan on twitter are already calling for Jacoby. I’m sure that number will go up if Rivers continues. And then I’m sure a few more would prefer to throw the rookie to the wolves.

Things also being said:
Trade for Dwayne Haskins
Trade for Sam Darnold
Think Peyton would come out of retirement?

[albany ed]

Who? There's no one on the team thats better!

It's not that JB is better, but perhaps he can be more effective and turn the ball over less. Let's not forget the margin of victory was exactly the 9 points given the Browns by Rivers' mistakes. And, they were bad mistakes.

All I'm saying is if he has another game like that, it should be his last.

[Maniac]

A few fan on twitter are already calling for Jacoby. I’m sure that number will go up if Rivers continues. And then I’m sure a few more would prefer to throw the rookie to the wolves.

Things also being said:
Trade for Dwayne Haskins
Trade for Sam Darnold
Think Peyton would come out of retirement?

Brissett, Haskins and Darnold all suck. No use wasting time on those guys. Might as well draft a guy that you actually want after just playing this season out instead of wasting draft picks and another year or two of mediocrity bringing in either Haskins or Darnold.

[rcubed]

Brissett, Haskins and Darnold all suck. No use wasting time on those guys. Might as well draft a guy that you actually want after just playing this season out instead of wasting draft picks and another year or two of mediocrity bringing in either Haskins or Darnold.


Exactly. None of those guys are going to be long-term solutions for us. Maybe it’s Eason. Rivers was always going to be a 1 to 2 year stopgap and I don’t think anyone really expected him to take us to the Super Bowl. I don’t want to go trading away draft picks for another mediocre quarterback.


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[YDFL Commish]

Keep in mind Rivers is exactly 5 games into his Colts career, with all new teammates.

People have to stop viewing the offense in a vacuum. Can Rivers play better, yes, but so can the O-Line, the RB's, the TE's and WR's.

These guys have probably had a 3rd of the reps (pre-pandemic) that that would have had entering a season at this point. For a new QB, playing with new teammates that's important.

Those who want Brissett are asinine. Two throws from this game that Brissett doesn't even attempt are the throws to Johnson and Dulin. In fact he probably takes a sack.

[rcubed]

Is that where we are now. Say f-it to the season and play the rookie?


No. I think they will and should stick with rivers. He gives them the best chance to win based on our QB choices.

I thought rivers would be better for us than brissett but didnt have any illusions that he would lead us to a championship. Maybe thats eason at some point, maybe not.


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[Chromeburn]

It's not that JB is better, but perhaps he can be more effective and turn the ball over less. Let's not forget the margin of victory was exactly the 9 points given the Browns by Rivers' mistakes. And, they were bad mistakes.

All I'm saying is if he has another game like that, it should be his last.

I would rather play Eason. Jacoby is not the future, and he isn’t the present. I would rather ride with Rivers or see what we have in the rookie.

[omahacolt]

Rivers is garbage. We aren't going anywhere anyways with him, might as well play Eason and see if he is any good. I have always despised Rivers and nothing this year has changed my mind. Fuck him and the horse he rode in with.

I thought you weren’t going to watch football because black people

[Hoopsdoc]

Keep in mind Rivers is exactly 5 games into his Colts career, with all new teammates.

People have to stop viewing the offense in a vacuum. Can Rivers play better, yes, but so can the O-Line, the RB's, the TE's and WR's.

These guys have probably had a 3rd of the reps (pre-pandemic) that that would have had entering a season at this point. For a new QB, playing with new teammates that's important.

Those who want Brissett are asinine. Two throws from this game that Brissett doesn't even attempt are the throws to Johnson and Dulin. In fact he probably takes a sack.
Not to mention Campbell, Pittman, and Burton have all missed extended time in a year that had no training camp or preseason.

We’re probably lucky he hasn’t been worse.

He will stay the starter unless he gets hurt.

[Brylok]

We're in QB hell now and I know I'll get flamed/bantered for it, but I still blame Andrew Luck. If he hadn't quit, we'd be undefeated. He alone, well, along with Frank firing Dave DeG because he was too strick/mean/used profanity. That firing ruined the O-line. No QB on the roster. O-line gone soft. Young, promising defense with talent, a very questionable scheme, and no ultimte purpose. Welcome to the Indiana Pacers (who I stopped watching after the 1999/2000 finals. They have zero chance to ever win a championship). I'll keep watching, but I'm glad I don't pay money for this team.

PS: Do not throw Eason in. You'll ruin him outright like Josh Rosen

[Chaka]

We're in QB hell now and I know I'll get flamed/bantered for it, but I still blame Andrew Luck. If he hadn't quit, we'd be undefeated. He alone, well, along with Frank firing Dave DeG because he was too strick/mean/used profanity. That firing ruined the O-line. No QB on the roster. O-line gone soft. Young, promising defense with talent, a very questionable scheme, and no ultimte purpose. Welcome to the Indiana Pacers (who I stopped watching after the 1999/2000 finals. They have zero chance to ever win a championship). I'll keep watching, but I'm glad I don't pay money for this team.

PS: Do not throw Eason in. You'll ruin him outright like Josh Rosen

Maybe Luck will unretire. Probably not, but it's certainly not out of the question. And don't tell me you wouldn't forgive him, because you would.

[Dam8610]

We're in QB hell now and I know I'll get flamed/bantered for it, but I still blame Andrew Luck. If he hadn't quit, we'd be undefeated. He alone, well, along with Frank firing Dave DeG because he was too strick/mean/used profanity. That firing ruined the O-line. No QB on the roster. O-line gone soft. Young, promising defense with talent, a very questionable scheme, and no ultimte purpose. Welcome to the Indiana Pacers (who I stopped watching after the 1999/2000 finals. They have zero chance to ever win a championship). I'll keep watching, but I'm glad I don't pay money for this team.

PS: Do not throw Eason in. You'll ruin him outright like Josh Rosen

The Colts don't get Buckner if Luck doesn't retire. Maybe you can have the best of both worlds and he'll come back (unlikely), but Luck would've taken last year's team to the playoffs and would have this team in strong Super Bowl contention.

Hopefully there's another Russell Wilson out there.
For context, Russell Wilson was my #2 QB in 2012, and until they cut Peyton, there was a scenario I'd hoped for in vain where some team gave up a king's ransom for the #1 overall pick, the Colts finally built a defense for Peyton Manning, and drafted Wilson at the top of Round 2 or 3. With the benefit of hindsight, this obviously would've been the best choice. Maybe Trey Lance is that guy, but I don't have the confidence in him that I had in Wilson just watching film. He seems like more of a scrambler than a pocket QB with great speed and athleticism, which was how Wilson looked on film. Then again, that is the direction the NFL is moving in, so maybe that is to his benefit.

[njcoltfan]

No. I think they will and should stick with rivers. He gives them the best chance to win based on our QB choices.

I thought rivers would be better for us than brissett but didnt have any illusions that he would lead us to a championship. Maybe thats eason at some point, maybe not.


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If not, then this team will be in QB hell for at least 4-5 years !! Average play equals average draft position. I was a big Andrew Luck fan, but boy did he really fuck up this franchise !!!

[Hoopsdoc]

If not, then this team will be in QB hell for at least 4-5 years !! Average play equals average draft position. I was a big Andrew Luck fan, but boy did he really fuck up this franchise !!!

I’m still an Andrew Luck fan but he most certainly f****d the franchise hard.

[albany ed]

No. I think they will and should stick with rivers. He gives them the best chance to win based on our QB choices.

I thought rivers would be better for us than brissett but didnt have any illusions that he would lead us to a championship. Maybe thats eason at some point, maybe not.


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So, for 25 million dollars for one season, what did you expect?

[Maniac]

Keep in mind Rivers is exactly 5 games into his Colts career, with all new teammates.

People have to stop viewing the offense in a vacuum. Can Rivers play better, yes, but so can the O-Line, the RB's, the TE's and WR's.

These guys have probably had a 3rd of the reps (pre-pandemic) that that would have had entering a season at this point. For a new QB, playing with new teammates that's important.

Those who want Brissett are asinine. Two throws from this game that Brissett doesn't even attempt are the throws to Johnson and Dulin. In fact he probably takes a sack.

Yes, but staring down receivers is rookie level mistakes that shouldn't be happening in year 50 of a QB's career, no matter the system, or new players. Don't fucking do that.

[rcubed]

If not, then this team will be in QB hell for at least 4-5 years !! Average play equals average draft position. I was a big Andrew Luck fan, but boy did he really fuck up this franchise !!!


Yep. This organization doesn’t have a tank mentality and we are good enough not to get a top pick. Thus they will and should play the best QB option, which is rivers this year. Unfortunately that will most likely mean we will be in the middle of the pack again. Worst place to draft


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[rcubed]

So, for 25 million dollars for one season, what did you expect?


Pretty much what we got. Rivers has always played this way, good enough to get excited but often a let down in the end. Living in southern california I have seen enough chargers games to expect that. Not sure what the money has to do with it.


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[albany ed]

Pretty much what we got. Rivers has always played this way, good enough to get excited but often a let down in the end. Living in southern california I have seen enough chargers games to expect that. Not sure what the money has to do with it.


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The money? I'm thinking you should get what you paid for. Rivers is getting top 5 QB money, and the only thing he's in the top 5 for QBs is INTs. I didn't expect that he was going to lead us to the Super Bowl, but in that last game, he looked done. Another performance like that and it becomes the norm and not just a bad game.

[Brylok]

Maybe Luck will unretire. Probably not, but it's certainly not out of the question. And don't tell me you wouldn't forgive him, because you would.

Perhaps if he came in like Superman and got us to the playoffs consistently. But even if I forgave him, I'd never trust him again. It doesn't matter anyway since he's not coming back.

[Spike]

I thought you weren’t going to watch football because black people

Really, black people? I never said that.

[Brylok]

Hopefully there's another Russell Wilson out there..

Russell Wilson is so good. MVP right now for me anyway. He would have been destroyed behind that o-line back then, but if it had been fixed, yeah I'd much rather have had him than Luck. So would everyone else probably though in hindsight. I'm just dreading the QB abyss. Depressing. Rage-inducing whenever I think back to August 2019.

[Chromeburn]

Russell Wilson is so good. MVP right now for me anyway. He would have been destroyed behind that o-line back then, but if it had been fixed, yeah I'd much rather have had him than Luck. So would everyone else probably though in hindsight. I'm just dreading the QB abyss. Depressing. Rage-inducing whenever I think back to August 2019.

In hindsight of course. But if Luck was healthy and still playing he was on a historic pace himself and I think he would be considered just as good.

[Dam8610]

The money? I'm thinking you should get what you paid for. Rivers is getting top 5 QB money, and the only thing he's in the top 5 for QBs is INTs. I didn't expect that he was going to lead us to the Super Bowl, but in that last game, he looked done. Another performance like that and it becomes the norm and not just a bad game.

$25 million per year is not Top 5 QB money in today's NFL. Mahomes just signed a half a billion dollar contract that comes in at slightly more than $40 million AAV and Watson just signed a 4 year deal at $40 million AAV. To me, that puts the floor of Top 5 at $35 million AAV, so 1 year at $25 million should buy something like Rivers, a guy on the downswing of his career that could provide a top 10 QB season or could flame out badly.

[Dam8610]

Russell Wilson is so good. MVP right now for me anyway. He would have been destroyed behind that o-line back then, but if it had been fixed, yeah I'd much rather have had him than Luck. So would everyone else probably though in hindsight. I'm just dreading the QB abyss. Depressing. Rage-inducing whenever I think back to August 2019.

With the benefit of hindsight, it's a very easy call to make. It's probably better in the end that the Colts didn't get all that draft capital from trading the #1 pick, Grigson likely would've squandered it.

[albany ed]

$25 million per year is not Top 5 QB money in today's NFL. Mahomes just signed a half a billion dollar contract that comes in at slightly more than $40 million AAV and Watson just signed a 4 year deal at $40 million AAV. To me, that puts the floor of Top 5 at $35 million AAV, so 1 year at $25 million should buy something like Rivers, a guy on the downswing of his career that could provide a top 10 QB season or could flame out badly.

I'm going strictly by salary in the current year and not by what a contract breaks down to if divided by the number of years in it. Those contracts get back loaded. Here's a quick break down of salaries only for the 2020 season.

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2020/

I realize that some contracts got signed after this was originally posted, but Rivers is certainly not worth 25 million dollars.

[rcubed]

I'm going strictly by salary in the current year and not by what a contract breaks down to if divided by the number of years in it. Those contracts get back loaded. Here's a quick break down of salaries only for the 2020 season.

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2020/

I realize that some contracts got signed after this was originally posted, but Rivers is certainly not worth 25 million dollars.


Top 5 QBs have big bonuses and long term contracts. Rivers has a 1 year deal to stop gap us, not a fair comparison.


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[Kray007]

When he signed up, I think that the assumption was that you were handing Rivers a great OL, a top 5 running attack, one elite WR and two others with high upside.

On Sunday, he didn't have any of those things. On Sunday, he had Leraven Clark, who was doing his best imitation of a turnstile; a RB who's having a hard time exploiting holes; a TY Hilton who's a shadow of his old self; and a WR corps behind him made up of, mostly, scrubs.

In addition, Jack Doyle, somehow seems to have aged badly.

That doesn't excuse the interceptions or the safety. But, going into 2020, any reasonable fan had to know that you weren't getting Rivers at his 25 year old best. You were getting a game manager who wasn't afraid to take chances.

That having been said, you can't really be surprised by what happened against the Browns.

[albany ed]

Top 5 QBs have big bonuses and long term contracts. Rivers has a 1 year deal to stop gap us, not a fair comparison.


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Okay, how about this. The Colts could have signed Bridgewater, Dalton AND Cam Newton and still had 7 million to sign some OL depth.

I really have no problem with paying good money for a quality player, but before I lay down money on a car with a solid history, but I'd still want to test drive it and be sure it still was a great car. Otherwise, I think I make a much lower counter offer. When Rivers signed for 25 million, I was convinced that the buyers were sure of him. I'm not convinced of that any longer, are you?

[YDFL Commish]

The money? I'm thinking you should get what you paid for. Rivers is getting top 5 QB money, and the only thing he's in the top 5 for QBs is INTs. I didn't expect that he was going to lead us to the Super Bowl, but in that last game, he looked done. Another performance like that and it becomes the norm and not just a bad game.

River's is not getting top 5 QB money. In average salary per season, his $25 million ranks 17th.

[rcubed]

Okay, how about this. The Colts could have signed Bridgewater, Dalton AND Cam Newton and still had 7 million to sign some OL depth.

I really have no problem with paying good money for a quality player, but before I lay down money on a car with a solid history, but I'd still want to test drive it and be sure it still was a great car. Otherwise, I think I make a much lower counter offer. When Rivers signed for 25 million, I was convinced that the buyers were sure of him. I'm not convinced of that any longer, are you?


Rivers was signed mainly due to his familiarity with reich and his system. One year contract for middle of the pack money (see above post), not top 5 money which also didnt really have any issues regarding our cap. The colts knew they couldnt trot brissett out there for another full season. Dont see why you are struggling with this.


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[Hoopsdoc]

When he signed up, I think that the assumption was that you were handing Rivers a great OL, a top 5 running attack, one elite WR and two others with high upside.

On Sunday, he didn't have any of those things. On Sunday, he had Leraven Clark, who was doing his best imitation of a turnstile; a RB who's having a hard time exploiting holes; a TY Hilton who's a shadow of his old self; and a WR corps behind him made up of, mostly, scrubs.

In addition, Jack Doyle, somehow seems to have aged badly.

That doesn't excuse the interceptions or the safety. But, going into 2020, any reasonable fan had to know that you weren't getting Rivers at his 25 year old best. You were getting a game manager who wasn't afraid to take chances.

That having been said, you can't really be surprised by what happened against the Browns.

Rivers no longer has the arm strength to really utilize Hilton best, the deep throws. Thats a big part of the problem.

[albany ed]

... Dont see why you are struggling with this.


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I guess what I'm struggling with is that even though it's one year, no one on the Colts has a higher cap hit. And, between Rivers and Brissette, the cap hit is 46 million. That tells me that we need help in evaluating QB talent, especially before throwing large sums of money on middle to low level talent players. Ballard has strengths in evaluating talent, but apparently, that does not include QB talent.

I really thought that when they signed Rivers for 25 million, they were sure of his arm strength. It's not my money, but it is my favorite team and after 5 games there is one certainty, Rivers has lost a lot of the skills he once had and management should have been able to know that before giving him "middle of the pack" millions.

[rcubed]

I guess what I'm struggling with is that even though it's one year, no one on the Colts has a higher cap hit. And, between Rivers and Brissette, the cap hit is 46 million. That tells me that we need help in evaluating QB talent, especially before throwing large sums of money on middle to low level talent players. Ballard has strengths in evaluating talent, but apparently, that does not include QB talent.

I really thought that when they signed Rivers for 25 million, they were sure of his arm strength. It's not my money, but it is my favorite team and after 5 games there is one certainty, Rivers has lost a lot of the skills he once had and management should have been able to know that before giving him "middle of the pack" millions.

I see it more that ballard hasnt found a QB that he wants to sink long term big cap hits into. I get the short term money for rivers. I get why they signed brissett at the time, but I think they gave him too much. I agree that 46M for the two is too much, but at least it doesnt extend beyond this season.

[rcubed]

I know its rumormill churn, but I am starting to see "Dak to Colts" surface...

[albany ed]

I see it more that ballard hasnt found a QB that he wants to sink long term big cap hits into. I get the short term money for rivers. I get why they signed brissett at the time, but I think they gave him too much. I agree that 46M for the two is too much, but at least it doesnt extend beyond this season.

I agree short term for unsure things, but the QBs I mentioned before Bridgewater, Newton and Dalton were all signed short term for a pittance of what the Colts paid Rivers. The big price paid to Rivers made me think that they were reasonably sure that he was solid and that his arm was strong. If they weren't sure, don't give him 25 million unless he can prove it.

[YDFL Commish]

From what I can see, Rivers has not lost any arm strength, I've seen him make some decent throws outside the numbers that Brees would not even attempt, because of his weak arm and that Jackson doesn't attempt because he's not accurate enough.

Arm strength is overrated for deep balls, that's much more about seeing it early, timing and accuracy. Besides if TY catches that bomb at home, that he lost in the sun, we wouldn't even being having this conversation.

Say want you want about Rivers throwing motion, but it actually leads to a very quick release, which leads to less sacks, pressures etc.

Now if you want to critique Rivers decision making then, that's where the problems really have been noticeable. I believe some of that is losing Mack, Campbell and Pittman and not really having enough reps with everyone in this offense, especially TY.

[Chromeburn]

I know its rumormill churn, but I am starting to see "Dak to Colts" surface...

Ugh, Dak would likely be an improvement but I still think he is a 10-15 qb in this league at best.

[Dam8610]

Ugh, Dak would likely be an improvement but I still think he is a 10-15 qb in this league at best.

That's all this team would need.

[Chromeburn]

That's all this team would need.

I honestly think we should shoot higher. We thought our oline would be better than it has so far.


FYI ESPN thinks we should trade for Darnold.

ESPN trade proposals (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30115789/nfl-trade-deadline-offers-13-proposals-players-get-dealt-2020-including-sam-darnold-dwayne-haskins-zach-ertz)

[Chaka]

FYI ESPN thinks we should trade for Darnold.

ESPN trade proposals (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30115789/nfl-trade-deadline-offers-13-proposals-players-get-dealt-2020-including-sam-darnold-dwayne-haskins-zach-ertz)

Interesting. If the Jets really are 0-8 on Nov 3, I could see a midseason trade like this, particularly if the Jets' primary competitors for the No. 1 pick have each won a game or two by that point. This would give the acquiring team an opportunity to assess Darnold in their offense before making a decision on the fifth year option, so the Jets could probably extract maximum value at that point.

The Colts as a midseason destination might pose some obstacles in my view. First, we'd almost certainly have to get rid of one of the QBs on our roster (bye Jacoby - unless Eason is really stinking up the joint and we want to gamble on getting him to the practice squad). Second, I don't know if the Colts would be able to give Darnold a lot of playing time if they are in the playoff race as expected, and how prepared could he be to contribute coming into a new offense at that point?

[Chromeburn]

Interesting. If the Jets really are 0-8 on Nov 3, I could see a midseason trade like this, particularly if the Jets' primary competitors for the No. 1 pick have each won a game or two by that point. This would give the acquiring team an opportunity to assess Darnold in their offense before making a decision on the fifth year option, so the Jets could probably extract maximum value at that point.

The Colts as a midseason destination might pose some obstacles in my view. First, we'd almost certainly have to get rid of one of the QBs on our roster (bye Jacoby - unless Eason is really stinking up the joint and we want to gamble on getting him to the practice squad). Second, I don't know if the Colts would be able to give Darnold a lot of playing time if they are in the playoff race as expected, and how prepared could he be to contribute coming into a new offense at that point?


You could cut another position and keep four QB's. Darnold's value is maxed right now just so a team could evaluate him. But I don't know how much evaluation you are going to get in a covid half-season. After the trade deadline, his value starts to go down and you could get him cheaper the closer to the draft you go or maybe even sign him as a free agent. We can wait till draft day, no one is banging the door down for Darnold.

[albany ed]

I've been very critical of Rivers on this post, but in reality, he is the one who the team must rely on. Getting Darnold halfway through the season is lunacy. Who knows, maybe Rivers can correct his errors, and actually, the team has been down several offensive starters, so maybe when they come back, Rivers can be effective. No choice right now, he is the best option going forward.

[Chromeburn]

I've been very critical of Rivers on this post, but in reality, he is the one who the team must rely on. Getting Darnold halfway through the season is lunacy. Who knows, maybe Rivers can correct his errors, and actually, the team has been down several offensive starters, so maybe when they come back, Rivers can be effective. No choice right now, he is the best option going forward.

Getting Darnold wouldn't be for this year. Honestly its Rivers or bust for the rest of the season. We've seen what Brisset can do.

[Spike]

Is that where we are now. Say f-it to the season and play the rookie?Yeah, that's pretty much where we are now. I hate participation trophies and banners that state Wild Card participant. That's nothing but a loser mentality.

[Racehorse]

I just hope Frank has lit into him for the poor decisions.

[Chromeburn]

I just hope Frank has lit into him for the poor decisions.

They certainly don’t air their dirty laundry. They all stay on message when talking to the media. But they say one thing and do another. Remember when Jacoby was a top 20 QB? Then they replaced him.

[Voosh]

Anyone calling for Brissett to start is dumb and can't recall last season. Also, Reich is not starting Eason unless something catastrophic happens. So this season is ride or die with Rivers for better or worse.

[njcoltfan]

Anyone calling for Brissett to start is dumb and can't recall last season. Also, Reich is not starting Eason unless something catastrophic happens. So this season is ride or die with Rivers for better or worse.

Start playing Tapps......

[apballin]

They certainly don’t air their dirty laundry. They all stay on message when talking to the media. But they say one thing and do another. Remember when Jacoby was a top 20 QB? Then they replaced him.

I’m starting to think Reich let’s his emotions cloud his judgement with older players he was doing the same thing last year with vinateti when it was clear he was done, now here we go down the same road with Rivers

[JAFF]

Blake Bortles just got cut.................

[Colts And Orioles]

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(vs. BENGALS, 10/18)


Excellent game overall for Rivers today, with 1 bad decision which resulted in an INT.

I believe that the announcers stated that he threw for more yards in the 2nd quarter than he has for his entire 17-year career.


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[JAFF]

o


(vs. BENGALS, 10/18)


Excellent game overall for Rivers today, with 1 bad decision which resulted in an INT.

I believe that the announcers stated that he threw for more yards in the 2nd quarter than he has for his entire 17-year career.


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Blake Bortles is still available

[TheMugwump]

Blake Bortles is still available

This made me fall out of my chair. Nice.

[Colts And Orioles]

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Riding the Philip Rivers Roller-Coaster, and Wondering If Seeing Really is Believing

(By Jim Ayello)

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2020/10/18/colts-vs-bengals-riding-philip-rivers-roller-coaster-seeing-believing/3683737001/

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[Chaka]

Blake Bortles is still available

Sorry JAFF, after there were no takers league-wide for Bortles, the Broncos put him back on their PS:

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/10/broncos-sign-blake-bortles-to-practice-squad

Your dream of seeing him decked out in a Colts uniform will have to remain a dream for now...

[JAFF]

Sorry JAFF, after there were no takers league-wide for Bortles, the Broncos put him back on their PS:

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/10/broncos-sign-blake-bortles-to-practice-squad

Your dream of seeing him decked out in a Colts uniform will have to remain a dream for now...

Not good at detecting sarcasim, are you?

[Chaka]

Not good at detecting sarcasim, are you?

Depends on the person...

[Colts And Orioles]

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(vs. BENGALS, 10/18)


Excellent game overall for Rivers today, with 1 bad decision which resulted in an INT.

I believe that the announcers stated that he threw for more yards in the 2nd quarter than he has for his entire 17-year career.


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(vs. LIONS, 11/01)


Another solid game for Rivers this afternoon.

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[albany ed]

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(vs. LIONS, 11/01)


Another solid game for Rivers this afternoon.

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Yes it was. Especially considering until near the end, the run game was piss poor. I really expected to see a stellar run game this year, but Mack down early kind of hurt, but the line, so far is all hat and no cattle. What's up with that?

[JAFF]

Depends on the person...

I’ll try putting more emphasis on the right syllable

[albany ed]

Man, I gotta admit it. I was wrong about Rivers.

[Chromeburn]

Man, I gotta admit it. I was wrong about Rivers.

He is still going to have bad games. But right now he is second against the blitz in the league. And despite the bad start for the running game. He is doing well.

[Colts And Orioles]

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(vs. TITANS, 11/12)


Rivers rebounded nicely from the Ravens game, which was just 3 days earlier.

Reich also made good use of Jacoby Brissett on 3rd down and 1 from the Titans' 2-yard-line.

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[Pez]

Rivers' issues are in his head. He think we need him to put the team on his back and carry games for us. We don't, we need him to drive the bus. Be smart, accurate and careful with the ball.

Rivers has the mental ability to know that TY hilton has a step on his defender and will be open deep. He need to have the mental ability to realize that he also lacks the arm strength to get it to him.

[Dam8610]

Do the Colts have any shot at Zach Wilson or Kyle Trask? My guess is no unless they fall apart for the rest of the season, but I think Reich would be able to build an offense around either of them.

[JAFF]

Do the Colts have any shot at Zach Wilson or Kyle Trask? My guess is no unless they fall apart for the rest of the season, but I think Reich would be able to build an offense around either of them.

The Eason kid is off the radar?

[Dam8610]

The Eason kid is off the radar?

Not at all. Got any film on him so we can see if he's improved at reading coverages or not overreacting to pressure? I absolutely hope Eason gets a chance, but he's the only QB on the roster after this season. I don't like the idea of hinging the success or failure of the otherwise loaded roster the Colts have on the QB market in free agency or a 4th round pick who has never played an NFL snap. Solving the QB position is the only thing left for this roster to be a Super Bowl contender long term. If a few resources are burnt in that quest, so be it.

[Chromeburn]

Do the Colts have any shot at Zach Wilson or Kyle Trask? My guess is no unless they fall apart for the rest of the season, but I think Reich would be able to build an offense around either of them.

They would have to trade up, not sure what the cost would be. Probably in the back half of top ten at the highest. 10-15 range is likely. There are already 3 QBs with top ten ratings ahead of them.

Wilson has an impressive arm and makes some unorthodox throws. But 6’3 210lbs is skinny. Kid is going to have to eat some pie.

[Dam8610]

They would have to trade up, not sure what the cost would be. Probably in the back half of top ten at the highest. 10-15 range is likely. There are already 3 QBs with top ten ratings ahead of them.

Wilson has an impressive arm and makes some unorthodox throws. But 6’3 210lbs is skinny. Kid is going to have to eat some pie.

I see elements of Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes in Wilson's game. Not saying he'll be as good as those guys, but those are the QBs I think he would look like in his best case scenario.

Kyle Trask actually reminds me a lot of a poor man's Luck, especially because he always seems to make one or two boneheaded decisions in a game.

[Colts And Orioles]

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Philip Rivers Delivers Against Aaron Rodgers and the Pack in 34-31 OT Win

(By Joel E. Erickson)

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2020/11/22/colts-vs-packers-philip-rivers-delivers-against-aaron-rodgers-ot-win/6341760002/

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[Dam8610]

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Philip Rivers Delivers Against Aaron Rodgers and the Pack in 34-31 OT Win

(By Jel E. Erickson)

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2020/11/22/colts-vs-packers-philip-rivers-delivers-against-aaron-rodgers-ot-win/6341760002/

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The defense delivered. 4 turnovers against an Aaron Rodgers offense is huge.

[Colts And Orioles]

The defense delivered. 4 turnovers against an Aaron Rodgers offense is huge.





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The defense was outstanding in the 2nd half, and in Overtime.

Rivers was very good throughout the entire game. I'm a little concerned about if and how his toe injury will affect his play in their next game against the Titans.

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[Colts And Orioles]

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(vs. PACKERS, 11/23)


Philip Rivers completed passes to 11 different receivers in the game.



Jonathan Taylor lll),,,,,,, (4)

Michael Pittman, Jr. lll),, (3)

Zach Pascal lllllllllllllllllll), (3)

T.Y. Hilton llllllllllllllllllllll,, (3)

Nyheim Hines llllllllllllllll,, (3)

Trey Burton lllllllllllllllllllll, (2)

Mo Alie-Cox lllllllllllllllllllll, (2)

Jordan Wilkins lllllllllllllll,, (1)

Marcus Johnson llllllllllllll, (1)

Jack Doyle lllllllllllllllllllllll) (1)

DeMichael Harris lllllllllll,, (1)

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[Dam8610]

Massive QB movement is expected around the league in the offseason. The two most intriguing names in the process in my opinion are Matthew Stafford (Age 33 season in 2021) and Matt Ryan (Age 36 season in 2021). Both the Lions and Falcons appear headed for a rebuild with aging QBs who won't survive it, so it makes sense for those teams to trade or release them. For the Colts, this would represent a bandaid solution at the QB position, but one that would allow this otherwise loaded roster to compete for the next half decade without having to make a desperate move for a QB. Because of their ages, I have a tough time distinguishing between the two. Ryan has over the years been the better performer in general, but he's also three years older and more likely to suffer age based decline over that timeframe. Thoughts?

[Racehorse]

Massive QB movement is expected around the league in the offseason. The two most intriguing names in the process in my opinion are Matthew Stafford (Age 33 season in 2021) and Matt Ryan (Age 36 season in 2021). Both the Lions and Falcons appear headed for a rebuild with aging QBs who won't survive it, so it makes sense for those teams to trade or release them. For the Colts, this would represent a bandaid solution at the QB position, but one that would allow this otherwise loaded roster to compete for the next half decade without having to make a desperate move for a QB. Because of their ages, I have a tough time distinguishing between the two. Ryan has over the years been the better performer in general, but he's also three years older and more likely to suffer age based decline over that timeframe. Thoughts?

I prefer Stafford, but don't think either will happen.

[apballin]

It’s time for a QB on a rookie deal

[Dam8610]

It’s time for a QB on a rookie deal

What QB? The Colts MAY have a chance at Kyle Trask or Mac Jones, and there's Eason on the roster. I'd rather not waste the prime of most of the talent on this roster. If you draft Castanzo's replacement and sign or trade for a Ryan or Stafford, you're a far more serious threat for a title run than drafting Trask or Jones.

[Chaka]

Massive QB movement is expected around the league in the offseason. The two most intriguing names in the process in my opinion are Matthew Stafford (Age 33 season in 2021) and Matt Ryan (Age 36 season in 2021). Both the Lions and Falcons appear headed for a rebuild with aging QBs who won't survive it, so it makes sense for those teams to trade or release them. For the Colts, this would represent a bandaid solution at the QB position, but one that would allow this otherwise loaded roster to compete for the next half decade without having to make a desperate move for a QB. Because of their ages, I have a tough time distinguishing between the two. Ryan has over the years been the better performer in general, but he's also three years older and more likely to suffer age based decline over that timeframe. Thoughts?

How about Darnold? If the Jets end up with the first pick in the draft, I assume they'll be looking to move him, but I don't think Darnold deserves to go the way of Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston just yet . And the guy is only 23. And we have a good trading relationship with the Jets.

[Racehorse]

How about Darnold? If the Jets end up with the first pick in the draft, I assume they'll be looking to move him, but I don't think Darnold deserves to go the way of Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston just yet . And the guy is only 23. And we have a good trading relationship with the Jets.

Are you sure that it is a good relationship? Seems kind of one-sided to me.

[albany ed]

How about Darnold? If the Jets end up with the first pick in the draft, I assume they'll be looking to move him, but I don't think Darnold deserves to go the way of Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston just yet . And the guy is only 23. And we have a good trading relationship with the Jets.

Hopefully the jets continue to lose and Darnold continues to struggle. Then, I think he can be gotten on the cheap. With the right guidance, I believe Darnold could be a quality QB. He's young, had shit coaching, shit line, shit receivers and is playing in the hardest city to fail in.

[Colts And Orioles]

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(vs. TEXANS, 12/06)


Rivers was really good today.

And while he was sacked 3 times in the 2nd half, he didn't make it worse by fumbling or forcing the ball into tight coverage.

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[CanuckColt]

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(vs. TEXANS, 12/06)


Rivers was really good today.

And while he was sacked 3 times in the 2nd half, he didn't make it worse by fumbling or forcing the ball into tight coverage.

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And he is playing on a foot that is needing an operation...going to have surgery in the off-season...we may not see him back.

[Colts And Orioles]

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(vs. TEXANS, 12/06)


Rivers was really good today.

And while he was sacked 3 times in the 2nd half, he didn't make it worse by fumbling or forcing the ball into tight coverage.

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And he is playing on a foot that is needing an operation ...... he's going to have surgery in the off-season ...... we may not see him back.





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I hope that he gets the surgery performed 3 days after the Super Bowl.

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[Ironshaft]

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I hope that he gets the surgery performed 3 days after the Super Bowl.

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Why wait that long after the end of our season?

I love the Colts but let's be real.

There is zero chance we are beating KC in Arrowhead or PIT at Heinz field with our offense this season. Our defense may.....may be up to the task of slowing those guys down but there is zero chance our offense will be able to score enough on them to win.

At best, we are one and done in the playoffs. Heck, we needed a fricking miracle fumble yesterday to beat the Texans.

[Oldcolt]

While I tend to agree with Ironshaft on this one, improbable, lucky, even last minute wins are a hallmark of 'great' teams. If this defense is playing well you never know. Especially if they ever figure out how to run the football consistently, and they appear to be falling into that if we open up our eyes and let the rookie just play.

[albany ed]

Why wait that long after the end of our season?

I love the Colts but let's be real.

There is zero chance we are beating KC in Arrowhead or PIT at Heinz field with our offense this season. Our defense may.....may be up to the task of slowing those guys down but there is zero chance our offense will be able to score enough on them to win.

At best, we are one and done in the playoffs. Heck, we needed a fricking miracle fumble yesterday to beat the Texans.

You and WaynesWorld87 oughta go out for drinks together. Maybe fill up those empty glasses.;)

[Ironshaft]

You and WaynesWorld87 oughta go out for drinks together. Maybe fill up those empty glasses.;)

Look, I want the Colts to win every game and every season's Super Bowl.

But, while the phrase is "any given Sunday," the reality is that the better football team wins the vast majority of game played.

And in this case, both KC and PIT, this season, are the better football teams.

If that is glass half full, well okay then.

I prefer to call it reality.

[albany ed]

Look, I want the Colts to win every game and every season's Super Bowl.

But, while the phrase is "any given Sunday," the reality is that the better football team wins the vast majority of game played.

And in this case, both KC and PIT, this season, are the better football teams.

If that is glass half full, well okay then.

I prefer to call it reality.

I have a good friend who is a notorious gambler. He would call me the day before a Colts game and ask me what I thought of the Colts chances and as a fan, I would say they're gonna kick ass. Regardless of the opponent. If they lost, my friend would call me and cuss me out. I learned to keep my optimism close to the vest when interacting with the reality based gambler.

When you chose to dress down an optimistic fan who made a hopeful comment about the Colts going to the Super Bowl, you said they had zero chance of that happening. While in all probability it won't happen, there's always better than a zero chance until there isn't. There's nothing wrong with your reality POV, I just didn't see the need to dress down the fan for his optimism.

[Colts And Orioles]

While I tend to agree with Ironshaft on this one, improbable, lucky, even last-minute wins are a hallmark of 'great' teams. If this defense is playing well you never know. Especially if they ever figure out how to run the football consistently, and they appear to be falling into that if we open up our eyes and let the rookie just play.





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As I pointed out yesterday, the Colts' defense outscored the Texans' offense in the 2nd half yesterday by a score of 2-0. They also sacked DeShaun Watson 5 times, including the one for the safety. While they were fortunate that the Texans coughed the ball up in the final 2 minutes of the game, they were excellent overall, especially considering the fact that the extremely elusive DeSahun Watson was on the other side of the ball ...... the Colts' defense made their own luck in the 2nd half yesterday a lot more than they were lucky.

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[njcoltfan]

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As I pointed out yesterday, the Colts' defense outscored the Texans' offense in the 2nd half yesterday by a score of 2-0. They also sacked DeShaun Watson 5 times, including the one for the safety. While they were fortunate that the Texans coughed the ball up in the final 2 minutes of the game, they were excellent overall, especially considering the fact that the extremely elusive DeSahun Watson was on the other side of the ball ...... the Colts' defense made their own luck in the 2nd half yesterday a lot more than they were lucky.

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Yesterday the biggest play of the game was made by the Texans center, and Walker for being in the right place at the right time.

[Colts And Orioles]

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As I pointed out yesterday, the Colts' defense outscored the Texans' offense in the 2nd half yesterday by a score of 2-0. They also sacked DeShaun Watson 5 times, including the one for the safety. While they were fortunate that the Texans coughed the ball up in the final 2 minutes of the game, they were excellent overall, especially considering the fact that the extremely elusive DeSahun Watson was on the other side of the ball ...... the Colts' defense made their own luck in the 2nd half yesterday a lot more than they were lucky.

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Yesterday the biggest play of the game was made by the Texans center, and Walker for being in the right place at the right time.



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Yesterday's game was not played in a vacuum of one play, or even one series of plays. No game is.

If the Colts' defense had not held the Texans scoreless in the 2nd half prior to that fateful fumble, that fateful fumble would have been a moot point.

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[Colts And Orioles]

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Colts Teammates See Philip Rivers' Toughness

(By Joel E. Erickson)

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2020/12/06/colts-see-toughness-philip-rivers-playing-painful-toe-injury/3852625001/

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[YDFL Commish]

As far as I'm concerned 2 punt return TD's called back were the biggest turning points in the game

[Dam8610]

As far as I'm concerned 2 punt return TD's called back were the biggest turning points in the game

They weren't TD, but they would've given the Colts a high probability of scoring if not called back on ticky tack at best calls.

[Butter]

They weren't TD, but they would've given the Colts a high probability of scoring if not called back on ticky tack at best calls.

Exactly, I feel bad for Hines.

[Colts And Orioles]

As far as I'm concerned 2 punt return TD's called back were the biggest turning points in the game.












Exactly, I feel bad for Hines.





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In hindsight, I think that this may wind up being a good thing for the Colts going forward ........ good teams often win games in spite of bad breaks and/or bad calls by the referees. I think that the Colts did this against both the Packers and the Texans. That is one reason why I am hopeful that the Colts might actually be bonafide contenders. I think that it is still too early to say for sure, because they have also showed that they are capable of shitting the bed. But all in all, I am very pleased to see them sitting at 8-4 overall with a win over the Packers and a split with the Titans.

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[Discflinger]

Pass it to Taylor.

[Colts And Orioles]

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This article was written prior to this afternoon's game ......



Jon Gruden: I Just Don’t See any Change in Philip Rivers

(By Myles Simmons)

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/12/10/jon-gruden-i-just-dont-see-any-change-in-philip-rivers/



"Philip Rivers will finish ya. This guy will go 60 minutes,” Gruden said. “And he’s so good at rallying young players, which is hard to do when you’re close to 40 years-old.”

“He doesn’t miss many things. He reads your mail before the ball is snapped,” Gruden said. “That’s when he does a lot of his best work.”

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[Colts And Orioles]

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Pretty damned good block by Rivers on the end-around, even though the play resulted in no gain.


http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112371&page=11


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(3 WEEKS LATER)


That was an expensive block.

Fortunately he has been able to play well through the foot injury that he sustained on this play, an injury which will eventually need surgery in the off-season.

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[Maniac]

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(3 WEEKS LATER)


That was an expensive block.

Fortunately he has been able to play well through the foot injury that he sustained on this play, an injury which will eventually need surgery in the off-season.

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For normally being a statue, he actually moved around pretty well on Sunday. It didn't seem like it was bothering him as much as the previous week.

[Colts And Orioles]

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13 games into the season, these two guys' predictions are looking pretty good ...... Ayello even had the Colts beating the Packers, although he also had them losing to the Raiders.

Erickson is currently right on target at 9-4, while Ayello had them being 8-5 heading into the rematch against the Texans.



Can Philip Rivers Lead the Colts Back to Playoffs? Insiders Predict Outcome of All 16 Games

(By Jim Ayello, and Joel A. Erickson)

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/colts-insider/2020/09/09/can-philip-rivers-lead-colts-playoffs-insiders-make-predictions/5740055002/

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[Colts And Orioles]

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(DECEMBER 20th)


In Rivers last 6 games combined, he as 12 TD's and only 2 INT's ...... and the Colts are 5-1 in that 6-game span.

Rivers has not thrown a single INT since the loss to the Titans last month.




(vs. TITANS) lllllllllllll 1 TD, 0 INT


(vs. PACKERS) lll.....l 3 TD, 1 INT


(vs. TITANS) lll),,,,,,, 2 TD, 1 INT


(vs. TEXANS) lll),,,,,l) 2 TD, 0 INT


(vs. RAIDERS) lll),lllll 2 TD, 0 INT


(vs. TEXANS) lllll,,,,,)l 2 TD, 0 INT

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[Colts And Orioles]

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Frank Reich Talks About Philip Rivers Playing in 2021

(By Kevin Bowen)

https://www.1075thefan.com/kevins-sports-news/colts-wednesday-notebook-frank-reich-talks-philip-rivers-playing-in-2021/




Peter King asked: } “Do you expect Philip Rivers to be a Colt next year? Do you think he still wants to play football?”

Reich’s Answer: ) “Well, I’ll tell you what. Yeah, I mean, I don’t know the answer to that question. We are so focused on this year. But I do know this ...... if Philip Rivers wants to play football, he can play football. I think that he has multiple years left in him. I think that he’s playing some of the best football of his career right now. I mean, right now he’s playing so good, and I love working with him. You know what his contract situation is ...... he’s got a 1-year contract, so there will be a time and a place to talk about all of that, and all of the other dynamics that go into being a 39-year-old quarterback. I know this, my love and respect for Philip Rivers has done nothing but increase working with him again ...... respecting what he’s done for our team and organization, the way he’s come in and handled himself as a leader. It’s been nothing but the very best.”

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[njcoltfan]

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Frank Reich Talks About Philip Rivers Playing in 2021

(By Kevin Bowen)

https://www.1075thefan.com/kevins-sports-news/colts-wednesday-notebook-frank-reich-talks-philip-rivers-playing-in-2021/




Peter King asked: } “Do you expect Philip Rivers to be a Colt next year? Do you think he still wants to play football?”

Reich’s Answer: ) “Well, I’ll tell you what. Yeah, I mean, I don’t know the answer to that question. We are so focused on this year. But I do know this ...... if Philip Rivers wants to play football, he can play football. I think that he has multiple years left in him. I think that he’s playing some of the best football of his career right now. I mean, right now he’s playing so good, and I love working with him. You know what his contract situation is ...... he’s got a 1-year contract, so there will be a time and a place to talk about all of that, and all of the other dynamics that go into being a 39-year-old quarterback. I know this, my love and respect for Philip Rivers has done nothing but increase working with him again ...... respecting what he’s done for our team and organization, the way he’s come in and handled himself as a leader. It’s been nothing but the very best.”

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Sure, bring him back and keep delaying getting the inevitable, getting the QB of the future !! Reich sounds like he has a girlie man crush on Rivers.

[apballin]

Sure, bring him back and keep delaying getting the inevitable, getting the QB of the future !! Reich sounds like he has a girlie man crush on Rivers.

Constantly let’s his emotion cloud his judgement on what’s best for the team same with Burton

[Colts And Orioles]

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Colts Teammates See Philip Rivers' Toughness

(By Joel E. Erickson)

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2020/12/06/colts-see-toughness-philip-rivers-playing-painful-toe-injury/3852625001/

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(4 WEEKS LATER)


It's the Colts or bust for Philip Rivers in 2021 ......



Philip Rivers Will Return to Colts or Retire in 2021; Carson Wentz Could Be Option if Veteran Leaves

(By Kevin Patra)

https://www.nfl.com/news/philip-rivers-will-return-to-colts-or-retire-in-2021-carson-wentz-could-be-optio

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[Maniac]

If they bring Rivers back, then Ballard better get rid of Briskett because I'm tired of a one dimensional offense when they put him in.

[DragonTails]

I could see Reich bringing in Wentz and Ertz.

I say no thank you to both.

[Colts And Orioles]

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13 games into the season, these two guys' predictions are looking pretty good ...... Ayello even had the Colts beating the Packers, although he also had them losing to the Raiders.

Erickson is currently right on target at 9-4, while Ayello had them being 8-5 heading into the rematch against the Texans.



Can Philip Rivers Lead the Colts Back to Playoffs? Insiders Predict Outcome of All 16 Games

(By Jim Ayello, and Joel A. Erickson)

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/colts-insider/2020/09/09/can-philip-rivers-lead-colts-playoffs-insiders-make-predictions/5740055002/

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Mission accomplished in regard to leading the Colts to the playoffs ...... now, we'll see what Philip Rivers and company can do now that they are there.

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[Colts And Orioles]

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(DECEMBER 20th)


In Rivers last 6 games combined, he as 12 TD's and only 2 INT's ...... and the Colts are 5-1 in that 6-game span.

Rivers has not thrown a single INT since the loss to the Titans last month.




(vs. TITANS) llllllllllll, 1 TD, 0 INT


(vs. PACKERS) lll.....l 3 TD, 1 INT


(vs. TITANS) lll),,,,,,, 2 TD, 1 INT


(vs. TEXANS) lll),,,,,l) 2 TD, 0 INT


(vs. RAIDERS) lll),lllll 2 TD, 0 INT


(vs. TEXANS) lllll,,,,,)l 2 TD, 0 INT

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(JANUARY 4th)


Update ...... Rivers dropped off in the final 2 games of the season. He threw 2 TD's, but also 2 INT's in those last 2 games combined. The Colts split those 2 games, so their record over their final 8 games of the season was 6-2.




(vs. TITANS) llllllllllll, 1 TD, 0 INT lllllllllllll (WIN)


(vs. PACKERS) lll.....l 3 TD, 1 INT lllllllllllll (WIN)


(vs. TITANS) lll),,,,,,, 2 TD, 1 INT lllllllllllll (LOSS)


(vs. TEXANS) lll),,,,,l) 2 TD, 0 INT lllllllllllll (WIN)


(vs. RAIDERS) lll),lllll 2 TD, 0 INT lllllllllllll (WIN)


(vs. TEXANS) lllll,,,,,)l 2 TD, 0 INT lllllllllllll (WIN)


(vs. STEELERS) lll,,,) 1 TD, 1 INT lllllllllllll (LOSS)


(vs. JAGUARS) llll,ll,)) 1 TD, 1 INT lllllllllllll (WIN)


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[Colts And Orioles]

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(vs. BILLS, 1/09) lll [Wild Card Playoff Game]


I thought that Rivers had a good game overall.

He did miss an open receiver on 4th-and-goal that would have been a TD and a 10-point lead for the Colts with less than 2 minutes to play in the first half ...... he also had some drops by receivers in key situations.

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[Oldcolt]

I would prefer to replace Rivers. He is not the reason we lost in the playoffs but I do not think he is capable of elevating his game to be the reason we win anymore. Lack of mobility is the huge flaw, Those last minute drive often depend on you qb escaping and making a play. We may end up with Rivers, he may be the best bet in the end. If he is our qb next year I don't think it bodes very well for this team.

[Colts And Orioles]

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In addition to the Colts, the article talks about the biggest decision(s) for the other 31 teams throughout the NFL in regard to free agency.



NFL Free Agency 2021: Biggest Upcoming Player Decision(s) for All 32 Teams

(EPSN's NFL Nation)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30730984/nfl-free-agency-2021-biggest-upcoming-player-decision-all-32-teams




INDIANAPOLIS COLTS ) (By Mike Wells)

Quarterback Philip Rivers. ) Rivers has told the Colts that he's "not 100% sure" that he wants to play an 18th NFL season. The two sides will take the next month to decide which direction to go. The Colts want Rivers, 39, but they aren't going to sit back and wait on him to make up his mind. They'll be evaluating quarterbacks around the league, and continue scouting potential draft picks. If Rivers does not return, the Colts could have their 3rd different starting quarterback in as many seasons, because Jacoby Brissett is heading into free agency.

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[albany ed]

I'm pretty sure the rule for a QB running outside the tackles can throw the ball past the LOS to avoid a loss of yardage and no grounding will be called. Can a running back do the same thing? I've seen running backs go out of bound or get tackled behind the LOS and I always think, why not just throw the ball forward and out of bounds to avoid that loss? Can they do that?

[smitty46953]

I'm pretty sure the rule for a QB running outside the tackles can throw the ball past the LOS to avoid a loss of yardage and no grounding will be called. Can a running back do the same thing? I've seen running backs go out of bound or get tackled behind the LOS and I always think, why not just throw the ball forward and out of bounds to avoid that loss? Can they do that?

Imagine it is possible, but great chance there will be an illegal receiver downfield if they do? :cool:

[njcoltfan]

If not, then this team will be in QB hell for at least 4-5 years !! Average play equals average draft position. I was a big Andrew Luck fan, but boy did he really fuck up this franchise !!!
I posted this years ago, and it still holds true today!!

[CletusPyle]

I posted this years ago, and it still holds true today!!

You nailed it....you know when I saw this, for a moment I was hoping we had fired Reich and hired Philip Rivers as the coach, I would be OK with that at this point!:D

[Colts And Orioles]

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I don't believe that the Colts have been in non-stop quarterback hell since Andrew Luck's retirement.

I think that the Colts have had 2 years out of the last 4 in quarterback hell ...... 2019 was quarterback hell with Jacoby Brissett, and 2021 was quarterback hell with Carson Wentz.

I don't believe that 2020 with Philip Rivers was quarterback hell ...... Rivers was solid, the Colts went 11-6 overall, and they took the Buffalo Bills right down to the wire in a playoff game on their homefield in New York State.

I also don't believe that 2022 is necessarily quarterback hell, either ...... 2022 is unquestionably, without a scintilla of a doubt, OFFENSIVE LINE HELL. The fact that the Colts have managed to somehow not lose 4 of their games so far (3 wins and 1 tie) is a minor miracle.

Last year, the Colts' offensive line was among the top-3 in the NFL ...... this year, their offensive line is the worst in the entire NFL. There is no doubt in my mind that if Matt Ryan had LAST YEAR'S OFFENSIVE LINE in front of him, the Colts would be either 8-1 or 7-2 right now. He would still be out there calling the plays, and Sam Ehlinger would still be holding a clipboard on the sideline.

There is also no doubt in my mind that if Matt Ryan had been the Colts' quarterback last year instead of Carson Wentz', the Colts would have won at least 2 more games than they did, maybe even 3 ...... they would have either been 11-6 which would have been good for a Wildcard berth, or perhaps even 12-5 which would have been good for the AFC South division title.


The 2022 offensive line has had a grand total of 1 good game this year.

Out of 9 games, the offensive line has been ......

A) ) 6 games, absolutely atrocious.

B) ) 2 games, not absolutely atrocious, but below average.

C) ) 1 game, excellent (the 2nd Jaguars game.)


Again, the fact that the Colts have somehow managed to go 3-5-1 instead of 1-8 with the offensive line playing as though they were in the Pro Bowl exhibition game is a minor miracle.

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