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HoosierinFL
06-20-2020, 09:09 PM
This shit shows no signs of slowing down, and wherever they try and reopen like here in Florida, it just takes off again.
College teams are reporting multiple players testing positive. No one is talking about the fact that for some of them, their athletic career is over due to complications.
Herd immunity is not a thing with this, nor are we even sure antibodies are effective.
There's no way to play in front of crowds, but when considering the number of people who are affiliated with a team and the playing of game (players, coaches, trainers, assistants, refs, production crew, NFL personnel) its impossible to prevent an outbreak. One positive player breathing heavy could infect an entire locker room at halftime.
I just don't see how its gonna happen.
Brylok
06-20-2020, 09:35 PM
I didn't see see it happening to be honest. I read some headlines earlier today about football players at various SEC schools (can't remember which ones)being infected and about the Phillies having like 10 players infected. The NBA is having trouble with players not wanting to risk themselves and MLB can't get players to agree to financial terms, etc. It's still spreading like wildflower and we're still in the first wave. Expecting 200K+ dead by end of August. So, no, I'm not optimistic. Maybe 20% chance.
Dam8610
06-21-2020, 12:19 AM
My heart says 100%, my head says close to 0%.
BCN#1
06-21-2020, 07:20 AM
My heart says 100%, my head says close to 0%.
Starting to agree with this thought. Seeing this morning on the news that players on the Suxs, Broncxxx, Ratbirds and Texicans are now testing positive. Gonna be a long wait for football methinks. :eek:
Oldcolt
06-21-2020, 10:51 AM
I agree that a season is a long shot. If there is no season what do you think happens to contracts, how do you evaluate college players and have a draft? If it turns out that we have two years between seasons I'm pretty happy with who our front office is. Long time without football though.
Maniac
06-21-2020, 11:20 AM
Even if there is a season, it's going to be a clusterf*ck. What happens when your star players test positive, or someone has it and infects 10 other players and they're all out and you don't have enough to field a team? Just forfeit? It's going to be a complete mess.
I wouldn't play fantasy football or gamble on any of the games this year.
Chromeburn
06-21-2020, 03:45 PM
We might have games. I think they will see what the other sports do and how it works out. But this thing isn’t going away anytime soon.
daedge
06-21-2020, 10:38 PM
We might have games. I think they will see what the other sports do and how it works out. But this thing isn’t going away anytime soon.
Bang on. The reality is, with the huge number of infected in the US, this isn't going away in an age. Essentially, you're going to have to live with it. Because the time to control it and get on top of it is long, long gone.
Opportunity blown.
I could be wrong, but the NFL is a stubborn outfit and they're going to press on regardless, albeit with no fans at games.
Speaking of fans, that's something we've been able to have at rugby games here, including 43,000 last weekend. The only active cases here now - there are nine - have been caught at the border and they're in isolation. Not since early April has there been community spread, hence why we're practically living a normal life and the only restrictions here are at the border.
I'm still pissed our trip to the US is off. Hopefully it's fine to travel there October next year.
Stay safe, freaks.
apballin
06-21-2020, 11:03 PM
I still say we have a season, NFL is too powerful and will set the rules or make sure they’re adjusted just for them. Now whether it’s fans or not I’m not confident in that
As long as people don’t wear masks, wont wash their hands repeatedly during the day, and Keep sensible social distancing, this virus will continue to move and it’s gonna be very hard to open up big facilities with lots of people.
Ironshaft
06-22-2020, 10:53 AM
I think that there is too much money involved for there not to be a season.
None of the NFL players are in any of the risk categories. Age, diabetes, asthma, other medical conditions leading to compromise. None of them have any of them.
My guess is that there will be protocols for those who find themselves COVID positive and in the infectious stage during the week. They will have to take 2 or 3 weeks off.
However, once a player has been positive and is out of the infectious stage, I suspect they will be allowed to play no issues.
I think there will be a season of televised games with no crowds in the stadium which will allow the money to continue to flow
Now college football? Yeah, I see it being cancelled because the colleges are much more likely to cave to public pressure (see OK State coach) in the attempt to appease the social media masses. I don't think they will probably play and that means next year's draft will be a cluster.
But the NFL? I expect to see a season out of them in 2020 / 2021.
YDFL Commish
06-22-2020, 11:41 AM
None of the NFL players are in any of the risk categories. Age, diabetes, asthma, other medical conditions leading to compromise. None of them have any of them.
There are NFL players that have played with asthma conditions. If I'm not mistaken Mark Andrews is a diabetic as well. So their a serious health concerns for a select few.
Dam8610
06-22-2020, 03:21 PM
Von Miller has asthma and apparently has already had COVID-19.
The thing about COVID-19 that makes it extra difficult to navigate for having pro sporting events is that it's not just about the death rate. This thing does damage in some cases that would end an athlete's career. There's a possibility that a star player could get it, not die, but have to retire because his lungs are destroyed. That's why I'm not very confident about a season being played.
Maniac
06-22-2020, 04:36 PM
I think that there is too much money involved for there not to be a season.
None of the NFL players are in any of the risk categories. Age, diabetes, asthma, other medical conditions leading to compromise. None of them have any of them.
My guess is that there will be protocols for those who find themselves COVID positive and in the infectious stage during the week. They will have to take 2 or 3 weeks off.
However, once a player has been positive and is out of the infectious stage, I suspect they will be allowed to play no issues.
I think there will be a season of televised games with no crowds in the stadium which will allow the money to continue to flow
Now college football? Yeah, I see it being cancelled because the colleges are much more likely to cave to public pressure (see OK State coach) in the attempt to appease the social media masses. I don't think they will probably play and that means next year's draft will be a cluster.
But the NFL? I expect to see a season out of them in 2020 / 2021.
There are absolutely players with health conditions that may be affected worse than others. Even if you don't have health conditions, there are no guarantees that you may not get a severe case. It may be unlikely that they would, but it's not 100% guarantee by any means.
How are you going to tell when a player is out of the infectuous stage? with covid, they can be infectuous even without a fever. I don't think there is any way they let anyone testing positive play. Not only for the impossible task of trying to determine if they are infectuous, but for the legal liability as well. The NFL does NOT want to deal with a bunch of legal headaches.
They will have a season, but people are going to be sitting out, possibly star players, and possibly multiple players, coaches, trainers, etc as well. It's going to be a mess.
HoosierinFL
06-22-2020, 04:56 PM
Von Miller has asthma and apparently has already had COVID-19.
The thing about COVID-19 that makes it extra difficult to navigate for having pro sporting events is that it's not just about the death rate. This thing does damage in some cases that would end an athlete's career. There's a possibility that a star player could get it, not die, but have to retire because his lungs are destroyed. That's why I'm not very confident about a season being played.
That’s exactly what I’m talking about, many healthy young adults don’t die, but will have permanent health effects like lung problems, heart rhythm irregularities, clotting problems, autoimmune reactions, etc.
rcubed
06-22-2020, 05:14 PM
There are NFL players that have played with asthma conditions. If I'm not mistaken Mark Andrews is a diabetic as well. So their a serious health concerns for a select few.
Yeah I hate that argument. Just because you are not necessarily in the highest category for risk of death doesnt mean you wont have health issues, possibly long term issues. Or just simply being someone who passes it on to others.
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Brylok
06-22-2020, 06:43 PM
Most of the owners are geriatric. If Jerry Jones, Irsay, Kraft, whoever got the virus, I doubt they'd come out of it very well. I'd imagine they'd prefer to live.
As an aside, I've watched a couple of English soccer games with no fans present. It is very odd, especially with the piped-in crowd noise during the games. Reaction effects, cheering, whistling/booing, etc...and not a soul is there. Just weird.
That’s exactly what I’m talking about, many healthy young adults don’t die, but will have permanent health effects like lung problems, heart rhythm irregularities, clotting problems, autoimmune reactions, etc.
Yeah, that's not true. They do die. More survive, but they have LIFE LONG problems because their lungs will be damaged and fixing it is really difficult.
If you wind up in the hospital you are luck you get out if your are some old fart. You get out when you are in your 30s, it may not be worth it. This virus is a MOFO and it if it rears its ugly head, isn't kind.
Brylok
06-23-2020, 03:45 AM
"Post whore" status achieved after changing my sig. That's just swell. I guess I'mma have to drive up to Tennessee and take racehorse out for a drink after equaling his status. Most of my posts are in game threads (I actually watch the games, unlike a lot of you people). Worlds are colliding...! Brylok is getting upset!
njcoltfan
06-23-2020, 05:57 AM
slim to none
One group I believe we forgot about when looking at those at risk. Many of the coaching staff of every team are 45 to 65+. Years old.
Maniac
06-23-2020, 04:11 PM
One group I believe we forgot about when looking at those at risk. Many of the coaching staff of every team are 45 to 65+. Years old.
I mentioned the coaches in my last reply.
They will have a season, but people are going to be sitting out, possibly star players, and possibly multiple players, coaches, trainers, etc as well. It's going to be a mess.
Chromeburn
06-23-2020, 09:09 PM
I saw yesterday some woman called a teenager at Starbucks a nazi because he could not serve her unless she wore a mask.
Just read an article about the Kansas football team opening up and covid spread through the lockeroom and they had to shut things down again. Problem is one guy breathing hard could infect half the team at halftime. I don't know, I not real optimistic.
Brylok
06-23-2020, 09:39 PM
I saw yesterday some woman called a teenager at Starbucks a nazi because he could not serve her unless she wore a mask..
Only in Amerikkka could something as simple as wearing a facemask inside of a public place, during a pandemic no less, become a political issue. Buncha frickin morons we've become. We are a profoundly stupid people.
Maniac
06-23-2020, 09:43 PM
Only in Amerikkka could something as simple as wearing a facemask inside of a public place, during a pandemic no less, become a political issue. Buncha frickin morons we've become. We are a profoundly stupid people.
It doesn't help when politicians are fueling the flames of division among people for their own political gain.
Brylok
06-24-2020, 12:15 AM
It doesn't help when politicians are fueling the flames of division among people for their own political gain.
Yup. So do whatever YOU can do. Wear a mask. Wash your hands several times throughout the day. The virus doesn't care about what you support politically.
HoosierinFL
06-24-2020, 11:50 AM
Yeah, that's not true. They do die. More survive, but they have LIFE LONG problems because their lungs will be damaged and fixing it is really difficult.
If you wind up in the hospital you are luck you get out if your are some old fart. You get out when you are in your 30s, it may not be worth it. This virus is a MOFO and it if it rears its ugly head, isn't kind.
Not sure what I said isn't true, you just repeated what I said. Many young people don't die (which implies some do) and many that don't die have lifelong health problems: lungs, clotting disorder, autoimmune reaction.
TheMugwump
06-24-2020, 11:54 AM
Not sure what I said isn't true, you just repeated what I said. Many young people don't die (which implies some do) and many that don't die have lifelong health problems: lungs, clotting disorder, autoimmune reaction.
Yeah, I wondered the same thing. Nice summation though...
And as for a season, odds are real low and getting lower. As several have stated, it would be a lot more likely if folks would get onboard with taking precautions, but 'murica' and all...
apballin
06-25-2020, 10:18 AM
Kentucky just got approved to have fans for the Derby, id day this is a good sign
Maniac
06-25-2020, 12:37 PM
Kentucky just got approved to have fans for the Derby, id day this is a good sign
That's a couple months away. Things can change in a hurry with this virus spreading.
apballin
06-25-2020, 04:58 PM
That's a couple months away. Things can change in a hurry with this virus spreading.
The fact it got the green light at all is a victory to me
smitty46953
06-25-2020, 06:36 PM
Kentucky just got approved to have fans for the Derby, id day this is a good sign
With those hats the women wear 6 foot social distancing should not be an issue? LOL :cool:
Colts And Orioles
06-25-2020, 09:21 PM
Kentucky just got approved to have fans for the Derby, I'd say that this is a good sign.
That's a couple of months away. Things can change in a hurry with this virus spreading.
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New York State is a prime example of that ........ we've literally gone from one end of the spectrum to the other in a 2 and-a-half month span regarding percentage rates for new cases of the virus.
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HoosierinFL
06-27-2020, 06:01 PM
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New York State is a prime example of that ........ we've literally gone from one end of the spectrum to the other in a 2 and-a-half month span regarding percentage rates for new cases of the virus.
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Meanwhile Florida opened up and we are setting new records every day.
Brylok
06-28-2020, 01:53 AM
Meanwhile Florida opened up and we are setting new records every day.
Get yourself some protection, Hoosier. I bought a pack of 25 triple-ply surgical facemasks at Walmart after work yesterday for $17.89 or something. I sure didn't want to pay that much, but the fall is coming, and we're going to have an explosion of more cases. Need to buy a box of latex gloves as well, stockpile TP, and probably some sort of eye protection. We're probably going to have more than 2 million dead before this is over. Smh. Be safe.
Get yourself some protection, Hoosier. I bought a pack of 25 triple-ply surgical facemasks at Walmart after work yesterday for $17.89 or something. I sure didn't want to pay that much, but the fall is coming, and we're going to have an explosion of more cases. Need to buy a box of latex gloves as well, stockpile TP, and probably some sort of eye protection. We're probably going to have more than 2 million dead before this is over. Smh. Be safe.
Stockpile TP? Cant eat it. Stockpile can goods.
Brylok
06-28-2020, 05:09 PM
Stockpile TP? Cant eat it. Stockpile can goods.
Meh, my bunghole comfort is more important to me than can goods. It's a matter of opinion though.
rcubed
06-28-2020, 06:19 PM
Meh, my bunghole comfort is more important to me than can goods. It's a matter of opinion though.
Doesn’t one lead to the other?
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Meh, my bunghole comfort is more important to me than can goods. It's a matter of opinion though.
If there is no food, theres nothing for your bunghole to do. No need for TP either.
BCN#1
07-05-2020, 09:08 AM
As some have mentioned, I am thinking now the season will go forward but with empty stadiums and pushing those TV revenues to survive. Football in EU (Soccer) seems to work OK doing this... strange for sure but games are happening and TV viewers are there.
Racehorse
07-05-2020, 10:24 AM
As some have mentioned, I am thinking now the season will go forward but with empty stadiums and pushing those TV revenues to survive. Football in EU (Soccer) seems to work OK doing this... strange for sure but games are happening and TV viewers are there.
I hear there will be a waiver option, if we have games.
Maniac
07-06-2020, 09:02 AM
As some have mentioned, I am thinking now the season will go forward but with empty stadiums and pushing those TV revenues to survive. Football in EU (Soccer) seems to work OK doing this... strange for sure but games are happening and TV viewers are there.
So what happens when they have a few practices on game week and then 10 people on the team test positive?
Chromeburn
07-06-2020, 02:24 PM
So what happens when they have a few practices on game week and then 10 people on the team test positive?
Who knows, that’s one of the big questions. Play the game with replacement players? Cancel the game?
Racehorse
07-06-2020, 03:54 PM
So what happens when they have a few practices on game week and then 10 people on the team test positive?
Rivers was reported to have asked the same question.
Maniac
07-06-2020, 04:09 PM
Who knows, that’s one of the big questions. Play the game with replacement players? Cancel the game?
With the current roster limits they won't be able to field a team. They will have to change the roster limits/rules to allow practice squad players to play or something just to even make it possible. That's not even getting into if one position group gets hit hard, which is possible since they share meeting rooms and such.
rcubed
07-06-2020, 04:50 PM
Whatever they end up doing, some team will find a way to bend the fuck out of the rules to gain an advantage...cough(pats)cough
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Chromeburn
07-06-2020, 06:34 PM
With the current roster limits they won't be able to field a team. They will have to change the roster limits/rules to allow practice squad players to play or something just to even make it possible. That's not even getting into if one position group gets hit hard, which is possible since they share meeting rooms and such.
Field an offensive line made up entirely of guys off the street? Yikes.
Brylok
07-07-2020, 03:18 AM
It's jumping off and fixing to absolutely shred us now. Y'all mofos wash your hands several times throughout the day, wear a mask in public, and isolate yourselves as best you can. Mandatory mask wearing in all public buildings goes into effect in my county at 5PM. I've already been doing that, so I'm used to it. I still need to buy a box of gloves tho (and more TP).
I'll be 45 next month. Y'all older, more stubborn mofos need to keep yourselves alive and do whatever you can to help yourself and others. We might disagree here and there, but I don't want any of you to die. Zero chance for a season. Buckle up...here we go. God help all of us.
Ironshaft
07-07-2020, 11:04 AM
Honestly, I am licking doorknobs trying to get it.
Yeah, there is a chance that I could get serious medical compilations from it or die, but I can do that at a MUCH higher risk percentage while driving to work every day. Have you seen some folks driving?
Yeah, if I get it, there is a chance that I could pass it to someone else. That is true of EVERY communicable disease on the planet. COVID is no different. We cannot completely change our lives based on a chance...and, honestly, a unbelievably small chance as long as the person you are interacting with is under the age of 75 and does not already have serious health issues.
Herd immunity hits when 93% of the population has the virus. I am just trying to do my part of helping us get there as a nation.
At 51 and with some of the "risk" factors (high blood pressure, high blood sugar), I knew that life would not be risk free.
I rate this about as dangerous of my getting skin cancer due to spending too much time outside without sun block as a teenager building tennis courts for my summer job. It might happen and it might not but I don't think the risk is higher for me dying from COVID, honestly.
And, my personal pet theory, if it were not an election year, this would have passed with about as much concern as when 85,000 Americans died during the 2018-2019 winter from the flu. No news articles. No national freak out. Just.....life. This fear mongering is primarily an effort to effect a Presidential election. If it were in a non-election year...
My personal freedoms don't end where another person's fears begin.
Oldcolt
07-07-2020, 12:02 PM
I'm 67 years old. Been a doc (obstetrician) for over 40 years. Lived thru AIDs doing deliveries (very bloody) before a cure. Took it in stride. This is different. I have never seen my fellow health care workers scared. Every single doc I know who works with COVID either doesn't go home after work (hotels mostly) or strips in the garage and immediately takes a shower when they get home. Every one. They are not just scared, they are terrified, mostly for their family. It is a bad disease that we are just learning about. It apparently can have long term consequences we are just beginning to learn about. The whole world except the US and Brazil are taking it seriously. We will see if the entire scientific establishment is correct, or if the trumpists got it right. over time. If the NFL follows guidelines and does contact tracing and 14 day isolation for contacts the season seems impossible. Has anyone seen what the plan is when someone tests positive? I am glad they are trying. Don't think they will be able to pull it off. Hope I'm wrong.
Ironshaft
07-07-2020, 12:27 PM
... We will see if the entire scientific establishment is correct, or if the trumpists got it right. over time.
And this seems to be the crux of the problem.
See, I have 4 doctors in my family; father-in-law, brother, brother-in-law and cousin-in-law. All are still practicing except my 70 year old father-in-law. Different specialties all over the mid-west.
Their experience with their peers working COVID differ from yours. My father-in-law has even gone so far as to use the word "hoax" on its mortality rate.
So, using a phrase like "the entire scientific establishment" seems interesting because my family says they see as many studies that refute much of what is being recommended by the CDC as supports it.
Why it is called the "practice" of medicine, I guess! :)
Maniac
07-07-2020, 06:17 PM
Honestly, I am licking doorknobs trying to get it.
Yeah, there is a chance that I could get serious medical compilations from it or die, but I can do that at a MUCH higher risk percentage while driving to work every day. Have you seen some folks driving?
Yeah, if I get it, there is a chance that I could pass it to someone else. That is true of EVERY communicable disease on the planet. COVID is no different. We cannot completely change our lives based on a chance...and, honestly, a unbelievably small chance as long as the person you are interacting with is under the age of 75 and does not already have serious health issues.
Herd immunity hits when 93% of the population has the virus. I am just trying to do my part of helping us get there as a nation.
At 51 and with some of the "risk" factors (high blood pressure, high blood sugar), I knew that life would not be risk free.
I rate this about as dangerous of my getting skin cancer due to spending too much time outside without sun block as a teenager building tennis courts for my summer job. It might happen and it might not but I don't think the risk is higher for me dying from COVID, honestly.
And, my personal pet theory, if it were not an election year, this would have passed with about as much concern as when 85,000 Americans died during the 2018-2019 winter from the flu. No news articles. No national freak out. Just.....life. This fear mongering is primarily an effort to effect a Presidential election. If it were in a non-election year...
My personal freedoms don't end where another person's fears begin.
Herd immunity is a fallacy if the antibodies only last a short time, just like no one gets herd immunity from the flu or colds.
Good luck offing yourself though. Hopefully you do it without killing anyone else along the way.
apballin
07-07-2020, 08:29 PM
Not in the healthcare field or nothing like a medical professional but when this shit first come around they were acting like if you get it you die which isn’t the case at all, the games must go on, thousands still go to work everyday what’s the difference no fans just pickup games in a gym we can’t lock ourselves in the house forever make people sign waivers to attend games if they choose if you don’t feel safe don’t go period but life has to go on this isn’t the zombie apocalypse it’s being made out to be
Maniac
07-07-2020, 10:01 PM
Not in the healthcare field or nothing like a medical professional but when this shit first come around they were acting like if you get it you die which isn’t the case at all, the games must go on, thousands still go to work everyday what’s the difference no fans just pickup games in a gym we can’t lock ourselves in the house forever make people sign waivers to attend games if they choose if you don’t feel safe don’t go period but life has to go on this isn’t the zombie apocalypse it’s being made out to be
People go to work everyday, but if they get coronavirus, they have to stay home and quarantine. You can have fans sign waivers all you want, but if a bunch of players, coaches, refs, etc are getting the virus, then you're not going to have games. There is too much liability risk for the NFL just to not give a damn and play no matter what.
Chromeburn
07-08-2020, 01:05 PM
The other thing that no one is talking about is this thing could have long term repercussion on the human body. Just bc you survive doesn’t mean it won’t hurt you. Athletes are starting to complain they can’t get back to the peak they were at before getting sick. The virus attacks the lungs and could cause long term damage and hurt your ability to process oxygen.
rcubed
07-08-2020, 02:56 PM
The other thing that no one is talking about is this thing could have long term repercussion on the human body. Just bc you survive doesn’t mean it won’t hurt you. Athletes are starting to complain they can’t get back to the peak they were at before getting sick. The virus attacks the lungs and could cause long term damage and hurt your ability to process oxygen.
true, but hey, it's 'merica! fuck masks! fuck all those other countries where masks and distancing worked to bring down the infection rate! Pres says its a farce and he never lies!
hee-yaw!!!
Maniac
07-08-2020, 03:51 PM
true, but hey, it's 'merica! fuck masks! fuck all those other countries where masks and distancing worked to bring down the infection rate! Pres says its a farce and he never lies!
hee-yaw!!!
Really odd that Trump, Pence, and the entire white house staff get tested and screened daily when they think it's a farce.
apballin
07-08-2020, 05:58 PM
People go to work everyday, but if they get coronavirus, they have to stay home and quarantine. You can have fans sign waivers all you want, but if a bunch of players, coaches, refs, etc are getting the virus, then you're not going to have games. There is too much liability risk for the NFL just to not give a damn and play no matter what.
The games will go on just like life, a lot of people have already had it but until there’s a vaccine this is how it’s gonna be. If they wanna be pussies about it keep your ass at home there’s plenty willing to replace you hell for all we know coronavirus was here during the end of last season
apballin
07-08-2020, 06:00 PM
The other thing that no one is talking about is this thing could have long term repercussion on the human body. Just bc you survive doesn’t mean it won’t hurt you. Athletes are starting to complain they can’t get back to the peak they were at before getting sick. The virus attacks the lungs and could cause long term damage and hurt your ability to process oxygen.
Once again sounds like someone being a pussy to me, lock yourself in the house until they develop a vaccine then I guess
Chromeburn
07-08-2020, 11:06 PM
true, but hey, it's 'merica! fuck masks! fuck all those other countries where masks and distancing worked to bring down the infection rate! Pres says its a farce and he never lies!
hee-yaw!!!
That shit pisses me off to no end. I don’t know how that got politicized but it’s ridiculous. Idiots. I’ll die for this country, I’ll fight whoever for this country, etc. but I refuse to be mildly inconvenienced for a few minutes in order to help protect my fellow citizens. Just maddening. I don’t know why people are listening to a president on medical matters.
Chromeburn
07-09-2020, 12:57 AM
Once again sounds like someone being a pussy to me, lock yourself in the house until they develop a vaccine then I guess
Please tell me you’re joking.
The other thing that no one is talking about is this thing could have long term repercussion on the human body. Just bc you survive doesn’t mean it won’t hurt you. Athletes are starting to complain they can’t get back to the peak they were at before getting sick. The virus attacks the lungs and could cause long term damage and hurt your ability to process oxygen.
Depending on the severity of the virus on some people, its like you smoked 2 packs of cigarettes for 40 years in a week.
There are people who will survive this thing and never be the same
Why worry about that?
Honestly, I am licking doorknobs trying to get it.
Yeah, there is a chance that I could get serious medical compilations from it or die, but I can do that at a MUCH higher risk percentage while driving to work every day. Have you seen some folks driving?
Yeah, if I get it, there is a chance that I could pass it to someone else. That is true of EVERY communicable disease on the planet. COVID is no different. We cannot completely change our lives based on a chance...and, honestly, a unbelievably small chance as long as the person you are interacting with is under the age of 75 and does not already have serious health issues.
Herd immunity hits when 93% of the population has the virus. I am just trying to do my part of helping us get there as a nation.
At 51 and with some of the "risk" factors (high blood pressure, high blood sugar), I knew that life would not be risk free.
I rate this about as dangerous of my getting skin cancer due to spending too much time outside without sun block as a teenager building tennis courts for my summer job. It might happen and it might not but I don't think the risk is higher for me dying from COVID, honestly.
And, my personal pet theory, if it were not an election year, this would have passed with about as much concern as when 85,000 Americans died during the 2018-2019 winter from the flu. No news articles. No national freak out. Just.....life. This fear mongering is primarily an effort to effect a Presidential election. If it were in a non-election year...
My personal freedoms don't end where another person's fears begin.
Fauci posted recently that this nation wont get to herd immunity without a vaccine, if they can create one.
OK so you don’t care if you get it. That’s fine except it I care if I get it. I got things and grandkids, and I Kinda would like to get to retirement and enjoy watching them grow up . And people like you who won’t wear a mask carrying this virus around make it possible for me to catch it. So if you don’t care about yourself, but it’s out of common decency you care for others around you, even if you don’t know them.
Colts And Orioles
07-09-2020, 01:45 PM
Once again sounds like someone being a pussy to me, lock yourself in the house until they develop a vaccine then I guess
Please tell me that you're joking.
o
Make America toothless and retarded again.
There's no place in our great society for wimps like yourself.
You think you're so smart, just because you know how to read and write.
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apballin
07-09-2020, 03:42 PM
o
Make America toothless and retarded again.
There's no place in our great society for wimps like yourself.
You think you're so smart, just because you know how to read and write.
o
Everyone has there views on this for whatever reason I say play ball,
There will be a season I’ll bet on that
rcubed
07-09-2020, 04:58 PM
Everyone has there views on this for whatever reason I say play ball,
There will be a season I’ll bet on that
*their
*their
spelling grammer nazi
apballin
07-09-2020, 08:26 PM
So the real question should be, would you sign a waiver and wear a mask to attend a Colts game?
Brylok
07-10-2020, 03:40 AM
So the real question should be, would you sign a waiver and wear a mask to attend a Colts game?
Um, no, you absolute troglodyte. The real question is: what multi-million dollar value NFL player is willing to risk his life to play a game in the face of a growing virus pandemic in which the USA is head and shoulders the world leader? Particularly lineman, where they breathe on each other all game long. And it's getting worse at a geometric rate now. Not many I'd hope. But, you go ahead! Feel free! Don't wear a mask or gloves or social distance yourself! You are a special! Go inside to bars and restaurants, movie theaters, bowling alleys. Live it up! You do you! Feel free to call other people pussies and whatnot. Perhaps you'll wind up taking care of yourself. Best of luck to you.
apballin
07-10-2020, 06:02 AM
Um, no, you absolute troglodyte. The real question is: what multi-million dollar value NFL player is willing to risk his life to play a game in the face of a growing virus pandemic in which the USA is head and shoulders the world leader? Particularly lineman, where they breathe on each other all game long. And it's getting worse at a geometric rate now. Not many I'd hope. But, you go ahead! Feel free! Don't wear a mask or gloves or social distance yourself! You are a special! Go inside to bars and restaurants, movie theaters, bowling alleys. Live it up! You do you! Feel free to call other people pussies and whatnot. Perhaps you'll wind up taking care of yourself. Best of luck to you.
I wear a mask your I never said I did any of the things you listed but no I’m not going to put my life on hold at some point we gotta move on I still have bundles of toilet paper from the start of all this bs
So the real question should be, would you sign a waiver and wear a mask to attend a Colts game?
No. I live about 80 miles outside of Indy, its a full day just to go to a game and get home. How long will the lines be for food or bathroom with social distancing?
I will stay at home. No drink limit there
apballin
07-10-2020, 10:16 AM
No. I live about 80 miles outside of Indy, its a full day just to go to a game and get home. How long will the lines be for food or bathroom with social distancing?
I will stay at home. No drink limit there
Well from what I was told about the indy 500 the ticket holders have been informed- mask all day and a window of a time to use the restroom to name a couple things
rcubed
07-10-2020, 10:17 AM
spelling grammer nazi
there should be something separating spelling and grammer.
rcubed
07-10-2020, 10:26 AM
I wear a mask your I never said I did any of the things you listed but no I’m not going to put my life on hold at some point we gotta move on I still have bundles of toilet paper from the start of all this bs
life should not be placed completely on hold, but there are simple things like wearing masks, distancing, avoiding crowds that helps deter the spread. other countries have seemed to do this without much issue and their numbers have decreased. parts of the US chose to rebel and that is reflected in our infection rates. some of that comes from our stupid leadership who openly defy what our medical experts recommend.
Colts And Orioles
07-10-2020, 12:17 PM
So the real question should be, would you sign a waiver and wear a mask to attend a Colts game?
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Throw in a free stay at the Bates Motel, and I'll be there.
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Chromeburn
07-10-2020, 12:32 PM
Um, no, you absolute troglodyte. The real question is: what multi-million dollar value NFL player is willing to risk his life to play a game in the face of a growing virus pandemic in which the USA is head and shoulders the world leader? Particularly lineman, where they breathe on each other all game long. And it's getting worse at a geometric rate now. Not many I'd hope. But, you go ahead! Feel free! Don't wear a mask or gloves or social distance yourself! You are a special! Go inside to bars and restaurants, movie theaters, bowling alleys. Live it up! You do you! Feel free to call other people pussies and whatnot. Perhaps you'll wind up taking care of yourself. Best of luck to you.
I really don’t see how they can do it. They are acting like they just isolate a sick person for two weeks and then they come back. But there is too much physical interaction between players. NBA is creating a quarantine bubble, no one in or out during the season. Baseball players aren’t that close to each other on the field. But hockey, football, I don’t see how you prevent a breakout if it gets on the field.
apballin
07-10-2020, 03:28 PM
I really don’t see how they can do it. They are acting like they just isolate a sick person for two weeks and then they come back. But there is too much physical interaction between players. NBA is creating a quarantine bubble, no one in or out during the season. Baseball players aren’t that close to each other on the field. But hockey, football, I don’t see how you prevent a breakout if it gets on the field.
How do we know half of the nfl hasn’t had it already?
rcubed
07-10-2020, 04:15 PM
what happens if a team loses a large number of players for a period of time? NBA is doing the bubble for near complete isolation during the short time they will finish the season. I dont think you could isolate 32 NFL teams like that for an entire NFL season. so what happens when a team gets hit and 10-15 players are unavailable for a couple weeks? how do they replace those players?
Brylok
07-10-2020, 04:41 PM
I really don’t see how they can do it. They are acting like they just isolate a sick person for two weeks and then they come back. But there is too much physical interaction between players. NBA is creating a quarantine bubble, no one in or out during the season. Baseball players aren’t that close to each other on the field. But hockey, football, I don’t see how you prevent a breakout if it gets on the field.
Me neither. It's been stated that we'll be at 100,000 new infections per day (and rising) in a few weeks. I understand people trying to be optimistic, we all want to watch the Colts, but there's a line between that and just being obtuse. I doubt the vast majority of players are willing to risk their health/life over a game. It sucks but it's better than being dead or permanently damaged.
Chromeburn
07-10-2020, 06:26 PM
How do we know half of the nfl hasn’t had it already?
I don’t know if they have or not. But I suppose you would know through testing, and you can get it twice. You are not guaranteed immunity forever after getting it once.
Chromeburn
07-10-2020, 06:39 PM
Me neither. It's been stated that we'll be at 100,000 new infections per day (and rising) in a few weeks. I understand people trying to be optimistic, we all want to watch the Colts, but there's a line between that and just being obtuse. I doubt the vast majority of players are willing to risk their health/life over a game. It sucks but it's better than being dead or permanently damaged.
Well some players can afford to not play the season and wait till next year. Way too many live paycheck to paycheck though. Rookies are kinda screwed too. No playing time, and no incoming salary. Feel bad for the next group of college players too. If there is no college season, how do you have a draft? No late risers, like a Joe Burrow or Kyler Murry to show what they have.
apballin
07-10-2020, 08:47 PM
There is too much money on the line, and I’m sure these guys have to feel secure knowing that the NFL will make sure they are safe as possible with healthcare regular people can only dream of. Not to mention the importance of staying in shape there’s only so much running and weight lifting you can do there’s nothing like football shape and that’s been proven
Brylok
07-11-2020, 12:28 AM
Well some players can afford to not play the season and wait till next year. Way too many live paycheck to paycheck though. Rookies are kinda screwed too. No playing time, and no incoming salary. Feel bad for the next group of college players too. If there is no college season, how do you have a draft? No late risers, like a Joe Burrow or Kyler Murry to show what they have.
I 💯 agree with all of that. It absolutely sucks, and the kids are the ones who are going to be the most screwed. Jim Irsay sent a notice out to season ticket holders today explaining how seating, vending, accommodations etc, will be handled for the coming season. The thing is, it's going to be so exponentially worse than it is now, I don't know if Jim even comprehends it. I love the guy, but I still don't see any way of it happening unless the owners just say "fuck it...hope nobody dies" and the players go along with that. Not to mention that some parts of the country have done significantly better than others in trying to handle the virus. I live in the south. We've done a terrible job, and half the people where I live (mostly intelligent Huntsville, AL) still don't take any precautions. How would a team from a place that has done well feel safe coming down here to play? And I'm in Huntsville! God help you if you have to play anywhere in Florida, Texas, Arizona, etc. If I were a vested veteran who had already made my NFL money, I'd rather sit out or retire rather than risk my and my family's life. So, yeah, the kids will suffer the most. So will the kids (and teachers) who will be forced back into the schools when the time comes to go back next month. Sorry for the wall of text, but yeah, it's an awful mess...and it's gonna get worse.
IndyNorm
07-12-2020, 10:00 AM
what happens if a team loses a large number of players for a period of time? NBA is doing the bubble for near complete isolation during the short time they will finish the season. I dont think you could isolate 32 NFL teams like that for an entire NFL season. so what happens when a team gets hit and 10-15 players are unavailable for a couple weeks? how do they replace those players?
All of the other sports starting up will probably be a litmus test. If things go more or less ok for NBA/NHL/MLB/MLS then the NFL will probably give it a go. If the other sports end in disaster then we're probably looking at a postponed and possibly cancelled season.
Football can be played in any season, any weather, so the NFL can start whenever. Same with basketball and hockey. Now how much competition do they want between each other is their problem.
Baseball is screwed. They need gate revenue, TV money doesnt cover the cost of business. Baseball is looking at being pushed to regional status with hockey as the NBA and NFL steamroll over them
Maniac
07-27-2020, 10:57 AM
All of the other sports starting up will probably be a litmus test. If things go more or less ok for NBA/NHL/MLB/MLS then the NFL will probably give it a go. If the other sports end in disaster then we're probably looking at a postponed and possibly cancelled season.
MLB already having to cancel games because of outbreaks. If they can't do it with players spaced out on the field and smaller rosters, then the NFL has no chance.
AlwaysSunnyinIndy
07-27-2020, 03:50 PM
MLB already having to cancel games because of outbreaks. If they can't do it with players spaced out on the field and smaller rosters, then the NFL has no chance.
The Minnesota Vikings Infection Control Officer has tested positive for COVID-19 and is now in quarantine:
https://www.nfl.com/news/vikings-infection-control-officer-tests-positive-for-covid-19
HoosierinFL
07-27-2020, 04:33 PM
MLB already having to cancel games because of outbreaks. If they can't do it with players spaced out on the field and smaller rosters, then the NFL has no chance.
Yep, the Marlins got 11 players with it. That pretty much takes them out of the league short of having an entire farm system in place to replace those players with - which is theoretically possible with baseball, though the quality of play is likely to go down.
But with football? forget it. I don't care how much money is on the line, the NFL has literally no meaningful safeguards in place for the players. It's not a question of *if* there will be an outbreak that decimates a team, but when.
The NFL might try to start a season, but it'll get called probably 1/4 of the way into it.
IndyNorm
07-27-2020, 04:47 PM
MLB already having to cancel games because of outbreaks. If they can't do it with players spaced out on the field and smaller rosters, then the NFL has no chance.
Yeah, not looking good for MLB :mad: It seemed like for the most part all teams came out of Summer Camp in pretty good shape, but guess that's easier to control over the actual games themselves. We'll see how it goes from here, but I'm not too optimistic.
apballin
07-27-2020, 09:35 PM
Yep, the Marlins got 11 players with it. That pretty much takes them out of the league short of having an entire farm system in place to replace those players with - which is theoretically possible with baseball, though the quality of play is likely to go down.
But with football? forget it. I don't care how much money is on the line, the NFL has literally no meaningful safeguards in place for the players. It's not a question of *if* there will be an outbreak that decimates a team, but when.
The NFL might try to start a season, but it'll get called probably 1/4 of the way into it.
The season is happening, baseball is still going calm down
rcubed
07-28-2020, 12:23 AM
There is too much TV money. They will start the season at a minimum. Hopefully they can make it all the way through.
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Brylok
07-28-2020, 02:20 AM
There is too much TV money. They will start the season at a minimum. Hopefully they can make it all the way through.
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Maybe. There's no way they'll get thru it. Zero chance. MLB will close within the next 2-3 weeks. We're a nation of plague rats. Arrogant, ignorant, banned from the rest of the developed world plague rats. We're the world's richest 3rd world country now. Bannna republic.
Brylok
07-28-2020, 01:20 PM
I was just looking at Ian Rapoport's twitter account and lots of players, many of them lineman, are opting out for the season. I suspect this will continue.
HoosierinFL
07-28-2020, 04:23 PM
Several players have opted out of the season, including 6 Patriots. Many starters. This may snowball
Brylok
07-28-2020, 06:07 PM
Marlins and Phillies are getting shut down, and the league is trying to rework the schedule to exclude the two teams. What a clusterfu*k.
apballin
07-28-2020, 07:32 PM
Several players have opted out of the season, including 6 Patriots. Many starters. This may snowball
Zero Colts, fuck the Patriots
Colts And Orioles
07-29-2020, 06:49 AM
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A socially-distant bench-clearing ???
Benches Clear as Dodgers' Joe Kelly Throws Behind Astros' Alex Bregman, Taunts Carlos Correa
(By Alden Gonzalez)
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29556054/benches-clear-dodgers-joe-kelly-throws-astros-alex-bregman-taunts-carlos-correa
https://media.nbclosangeles.com/2020/07/GettyImages-1227821082.jpg?resize=850%2C478
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Chromeburn
07-29-2020, 12:21 PM
o
A socially-distant bench-clearing ???
Benches Clear as Dodgers' Joe Kelly Throws Behind Astros' Alex Bregman, Taunts Carlos Correa
(By Alden Gonzalez)
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29556054/benches-clear-dodgers-joe-kelly-throws-astros-alex-bregman-taunts-carlos-correa
https://media.nbclosangeles.com/2020/07/GettyImages-1227821082.jpg?resize=850%2C478
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Be interesting to see if anyuone gets sick from this
WEEKEND WARRIOR
07-30-2020, 04:24 PM
Several players have opted out of the season, including 6 Patriots. Many starters. This may snowball
Belicheat and the Patsies tanking the season the get Trevor Lawrence !!
YDFL Commish
07-30-2020, 06:15 PM
Belicheat and the Patsies tanking the season the get Trevor Lawrence !!
Then why bring in Cam Newton?
Butter
08-02-2020, 11:06 PM
Then why bring in Cam Newton?
Because they are not tanking.
Brylok
08-03-2020, 03:44 AM
Because they are not tanking.
The only tank we have to worry about this year is the ventilator tank. God bless ya'll and keep living.
TheMugwump
08-03-2020, 10:45 AM
Then why bring in Cam Newton?
Because Newton has nothing left in his arm, and he'll help them tank?
apballin
08-03-2020, 08:02 PM
The only tank we have to worry about this year is the ventilator tank. God bless ya'll and keep living.
Dude they are playing, basketball, baseball, and football it’s not the zombie apocalypse
Brylok
08-06-2020, 02:37 AM
Dude they are playing, basketball, baseball, and football it’s not the zombie apocalypse
Zombies aren't real. "Zombie apocalypse" is not real. COVID-19 is, and it will come for as many of us as it can. Wear a mask, wash yourself, social distance, and STFU. FFS...smh
Zombies aren't real. "Zombie apocalypse" is not real. COVID-19 is, and it will come for as many of us as it can. Wear a mask, wash yourself, social distance, and STFU. FFS...smh
From the GM: Put a damn mask on. Why is that so hard? It’s not about you. It’s about everybody else.’’
apballin
08-08-2020, 09:14 PM
Zombies aren't real. "Zombie apocalypse" is not real. COVID-19 is, and it will come for as many of us as it can. Wear a mask, wash yourself, social distance, and STFU. FFS...smh
I wear a mask in a hot ass factory all day long, STFU and quit crying this shit is blown out of proportion you sound like all the pussies at my job that are trying to get out of work. There will be a season GTFO with your end of the world bullshit
Chromeburn
08-09-2020, 12:16 PM
I wear a mask in a hot ass factory all day long, STFU and quit crying this shit is blown out of proportion you sound like all the pussies at my job that are trying to get out of work. There will be a season GTFO with your end of the world bullshit
Please spare us your conservative talking points. It’s a serious medical issue affecting the entire world.
Maniac
08-09-2020, 01:27 PM
I wear a mask in a hot ass factory all day long, STFU and quit crying this shit is blown out of proportion you sound like all the pussies at my job that are trying to get out of work. There will be a season GTFO with your end of the world bullshit
You can call people pussies all you want, the virus doesn't give a shit. You can't ignore it and think it will go away. You can't "man up" and think it will just go away. The virus doesn't give a shit if you think it's a bunch of bullshit.
165,000 people dead in this country from this in 6 months and we may not be to the worst part of it yet. So go ahead and make fun of people who take a pandemic seriously if that makes you feel like a big man, but it doesn't matter. It won't change a thing.
apballin
08-09-2020, 03:55 PM
You can call people pussies all you want, the virus doesn't give a shit. You can't ignore it and think it will go away. You can't "man up" and think it will just go away. The virus doesn't give a shit if you think it's a bunch of bullshit.
165,000 people dead in this country from this in 6 months and we may not be to the worst part of it yet. So go ahead and make fun of people who take a pandemic seriously if that makes you feel like a big man, but it doesn't matter. It won't change a thing.
Acting like it’s doomsday and keep insinuating there will not be a season because of the bs does nothing either. Again on topic 100% there will be a season I’m willing to put $$ on it for those that are confident
TheMugwump
08-09-2020, 07:35 PM
Acting like it’s doomsday and keep insinuating there will not be a season because of the bs does nothing either. Again on topic 100% there will be a season I’m willing to put $$ on it for those that are confident
Well, college football this fall is about to go away, so I suppose that's going to be an overreaction too?
And yah, before you say it, there IS lot more money at stake in the NFL than even in college football. Still, those university presidents aren't giving up those millions that they would get because of something blown out of all proportion.
There will not be a season. I'd be shocked if they get through two weeks.
Colleges have a liability issue with college athletes.
Maniac
08-10-2020, 12:08 AM
Acting like it’s doomsday and keep insinuating there will not be a season because of the bs does nothing either. Again on topic 100% there will be a season I’m willing to put $$ on it for those that are confident
No one is acting like it's doomsday. You just keep throwing out that wording for drama in your own mind.
Guessing that there may not be a season is very plausible since the MLB is struggling to do it and they have an easier way to make games up than what the NFL would ever be able to do. College football is already affected.
But this is all just us guessing, just like you're guessing and wanting to put $$ on it. It doesn't matter what either side thinks. We just have to wait and find out what happens.
Brylok
08-10-2020, 02:25 AM
I wear a mask in a hot ass factory all day long, STFU and quit crying this shit is blown out of proportion you sound like all the pussies at my job that are trying to get out of work. There will be a season GTFO with your end of the world bullshit
161,000+ dead Americans and rising. 5,000,000+ Americans infected with the virus and rising (CDC says the true number is up to 10 times higher). 90,000 school aged kids tested positive in the last week of July and are now going back to school. We're still in the first wave in this country, and we'll probably wind up with over 1,000,000+ dead Americans, largely because of people like you (the worst poster on this board). Be sure to keep your nose inside the mask you supposedly wear. Fucking douchebag
smitty46953
08-10-2020, 12:52 PM
In a vote of 12-2 Big 10 has voted to cancel football season, PAC-12 as well
HoosierinFL
08-10-2020, 02:53 PM
In a vote of 12-2 Big 10 has voted to cancel football season, PAC-12 as well
Expected, but sucks, I think IU was gonna have a breakout year.
apballin
08-10-2020, 03:36 PM
161,000+ dead Americans and rising. 5,000,000+ Americans infected with the virus and rising (CDC says the true number is up to 10 times higher). 90,000 school aged kids tested positive in the last week of July and are now going back to school. We're still in the first wave in this country, and we'll probably wind up with over 1,000,000+ dead Americans, largely because of people like you (the worst poster on this board). Be sure to keep your nose inside the mask you supposedly wear. Fucking douchebag
People like me that go to work everyday and don’t make excuses and worst poster is a matter of opinion I could care less what any of you think about me but all I said from the beginning is 100% we will have a season we’ll see who ends up being right
apballin
08-10-2020, 03:40 PM
Well, college football this fall is about to go away, so I suppose that's going to be an overreaction too?
And yah, before you say it, there IS lot more money at stake in the NFL than even in college football. Still, those university presidents aren't giving up those millions that they would get because of something blown out of all proportion.
There will not be a season. I'd be shocked if they get through two weeks.
Liability concerns that was stated earlier those guys are not under contract the schools are worried about getting sued
Maniac
08-10-2020, 08:05 PM
People like me that go to work everyday and don’t make excuses and worst poster is a matter of opinion I could care less what any of you think about me but all I said from the beginning is 100% we will have a season we’ll see who ends up being right
I have gone to work every day as well. Is that some amazing feat?
apballin
08-10-2020, 08:22 PM
I have gone to work every day as well. Is that some amazing feat?
I’d say it speaks to your character when there has never been an easier time to access money or time off without any penalty then right now
Dewey 5
08-10-2020, 08:30 PM
People like me that go to work everyday and don’t make excuses and worst poster is a matter of opinion I could care less what any of you think about me but all I said from the beginning is 100% we will have a season we’ll see who ends up being right
It's couldn't not could. Carry on.
Discflinger
08-10-2020, 09:47 PM
That expression out of idiots’ mouths always confused me, as well.
I think that the one thing we all can agree on is that a vaccine can’t come soon enough. Or is it “...can come soon...”?
Butter
08-10-2020, 10:29 PM
Fuckin Hell I feel stupider from reading some of this shit
Ironshaft
08-11-2020, 01:52 PM
Expected, but sucks, I think IU was gonna have a breakout year.
Good golly, I hope you are speaking about Iowa University when you say IU.
Because for Indiana University to have a break-out year in football to happen, the windchill factor in he!! would have to be pretty low!
:)
Ironshaft
08-11-2020, 02:05 PM
My two cents on COVID (not that anyone cares but everyone seems to be throwing it in):
- Serious medical condition for some small portion of the population with one or more of the following medical issues: older, hypertensive, diabetic, have cancer or have other compromised health issues. Yeah, I have the trifecta of being older with hypertension and diabetes! Yeah me! :)
- Non-serious medical issue for the rest of the population. Like having the flu.
- Very conflicting medical advice being given out about the effectiveness of: masks use, social distancing, length of time it is viable outside of a body, amount of virus in a cough viral load or effectiveness of disinfecting surfaces. For every study that concludes one way, I can find one that concludes another way.
- While the virus is a concern, the fear mongering around the virus is WAY over the top. It has purpose.
- Study out of the UK this past weekend over their summer term: Apr - Jun, 110,000 school aged children, over 200 school districts. Almost zero reported cases of either student to student transmission or student to teacher transmission. The fear mongering about our kids going back to school is over the top.
- If this were 2019 or 2021, I think the fear mongering would be significantly less than what we have seen this year. I think the fear mongering is attempting to effect an election.
- I predict that the fear mongering about COVID will almost disappear on 04 November 2020. The media will start fear mongering about something else (Trump the Dictator or Biden the Savior) but I don't think it will be COVID anymore.
My two cents.
Oldcolt
08-11-2020, 03:33 PM
Seriously doubt that the rest of the world has put their economies on hold until Nov 4 and the US elections. The entire world seems to be 'fear mongering'. Don't think 'fear mongering' is going anywhere soon.
TheMugwump
08-11-2020, 03:52 PM
Seriously doubt that the rest of the world has put their economies on hold until Nov 4 and the US elections. The entire world seems to be 'fear mongering'. Don't think 'fear mongering' is going anywhere soon.
Exactly. And as for, "...conflicting medical advice being given out about the effectiveness of: masks use, social distancing...", masks and social distancing seem to be working quite well in many of the world's countries, let alone in NYC, where the virus was rampant at first, and is now in a much better place than much of the rest of the country.
Masks work. They aren't perfect, but anything that cuts down on transmission, even a little bit, is not to be argued against, at least not credibly.
Social distancing works. It's an airborne, transmittable virus. How any study could show that distancing doesn't slow transmission is...again, not credible.
As for finding studies that conclude different ways, sure. Science is a process, not a perfect answer. But you can't find peer-reviewed, credible studies that equally support both sides.
And kids transmit the disease. I am an elementary school teacher, have personal experience with this. Unfortunately.
It's couldn't not could. Carry on.
[deep breath, here goes...] I disagree. While both are correct, but they mean slightly different things. In this context, apballin has used the proper context. Allow me to explain:
"I could care less about what you think of me..." means that the person wishes they cared less than they actually do, eg, if they truly could not care less, they likely would not care enough to type the phrase on a message board.
"I could not care less..." means simply that the person cannot care less than they do currently. This does not automatically mean that their level of care is zero. Oddly, if a person truly cared zero, then this phrase is actually an oxymoron, else you would not hear it. A person that chooses to vocalize that they care zero about something, obviously does not care zero, because they care enough to vocalize it. Thus they MUST care More than zero.
The second definition of this usage is more like an obligation. I care about the welfare of my children very deeply and I could not care less about that. Obviously this is also a correct usage.
Good God, I hope we play some football soon. Miss you fuckers.
Brylok
08-11-2020, 07:39 PM
People like me that go to work everyday and don’t make excuses and worst poster is a matter of opinion I could care less what any of you think about me but all I said from the beginning is 100% we will have a season we’ll see who ends up being right
Betcha I've worked more days during this pandemic than you have. I've been averaging 1.5 days off per week since April. I've gotten it under control now, at a manageable 50-55 hours/week. Hell, I got here at 9AM and I'm still at work. So let's not go there. Also, it's never been about who ends up being right, it's about not being a fucking douchebag. I guess you're just dense.
Chromeburn
08-11-2020, 08:41 PM
Exactly. And as for, "...conflicting medical advice being given out about the effectiveness of: masks use, social distancing...", masks and social distancing seem to be working quite well in many of the world's countries, let alone in NYC, where the virus was rampant at first, and is now in a much better place than much of the rest of the country.
Masks work. They aren't perfect, but anything that cuts down on transmission, even a little bit, is not to be argued against, at least not credibly.
Social distancing works. It's an airborne, transmittable virus. How any study could show that distancing doesn't slow transmission is...again, not credible.
As for finding studies that conclude different ways, sure. Science is a process, not a perfect answer. But you can't find peer-reviewed, credible studies that equally support both sides.
And kids transmit the disease. I am an elementary school teacher, have personal experience with this. Unfortunately.
I don’t understand how masks got politicized. They don’t protect the user 100% that well, but they protect everyone else from the user. If everyone wears them then we bring transmission down. If something is telling you different then it is someone with an agenda. Wear a mask, protect your neighbor.
As for the fear mongering. Covid is now the third largest killer in the US now, and doesn’t seem to be stopping. If people don’t take it seriously it will not go away. People don’t have to freak out, just don’t minimize it either. You could say the left leaning news is talking too much Covid, but the right leaning news talks about protests 90% of the time. And I watch both. My sister lives in Portland, lives downtown works in the city, and she says she hasn’t even seen any of the protests. But watching the news you would think the city is burning down. I think we have a tendency to sensationalize issues more than they are in general. But I really don’t care about graffiti on public buildings as much when compared to a pandemic that could kill me.
People just need to listen to the medical advice from the experts, not the president or infowars or that one YouTube poster who also thinks the world is flat. Take it seriously, listen to advice and take precautions. And we can then end this sooner and get back to football.
omahacolt
08-11-2020, 08:46 PM
People that don’t wear masks have little dicks
HoosierinFL
08-11-2020, 09:03 PM
- Non-serious medical issue for the rest of the population. Like having the flu.
This is not true. Some % of otherwise healthy people die anyway. Even more have long term health complications that can include heart arrhythmia, clotting disorder, autoimmune disease, brain damage, lung damage, and more. Some of these long-term complications, esp the auto-immune response, are the strongest in children.
- Very conflicting medical advice being given out about the effectiveness of: masks use, social distancing, length of time it is viable outside of a body, amount of virus in a cough viral load or effectiveness of disinfecting surfaces. For every study that concludes one way, I can find one that concludes another way.
the short answer: if masks did not help prevent the wearer from spreading infectious disease, the surgeons would not have started wearing them during surgery. Its a simple as that. Surgeons wearing masks and gloves is to protect the patient from the surgeon, and the same holds true for spreading infectious disease in the general population.
You have to learn to deal with the ambiguities of science, different studies with different methods, samples, measures, etc will give varying results. Its the inherent nature of science. Scientists are not alarmed by this variance, and still see the trend and understand why the studies vary, and they did not waver in their recommendations for mask wearing and social distancing.
- While the virus is a concern, the fear mongering around the virus is WAY over the top. It has purpose.
despite your hinting at some politicization, which vague nonsense, the reality is that 162,000 americans have died since this started. That is triple the numbers of "bad" flu year, and we're not even a full 6 months into this yet. It could be a lot worse if we don't follow protocols, (and it could have been so *less* worse if we'd done what most other civilized countries do, but somehow that's not "freedom"?)
And don't start with suspicions about the counting of deaths (in terms of supposed mislabeled causes of death). When you have something on this scale happening so quickly, data collection is bound to be inconsistent, but that is still a real body count above. An error rate of 10% (which is unrealistically high) still means 145,000+ dead.
- Study out of the UK this past weekend over their summer term: Apr - Jun, 110,000 school aged children, over 200 school districts. Almost zero reported cases of either student to student transmission or student to teacher transmission. The fear mongering about our kids going back to school is over the top.
You got a link? I can't find any such paper and everything I've found suggested that in England they have keep kids out of school all summer.
- If this were 2019 or 2021, I think the fear mongering would be significantly less than what we have seen this year. I think the fear mongering is attempting to effect an election.
again, the deaths are real and dwarf all the "whatabouttas". And is it really fear that drives the mask and social distancing mandates?
- I predict that the fear mongering about COVID will almost disappear on 04 November 2020. The media will start fear mongering about something else (Trump the Dictator or Biden the Savior) but I don't think it will be COVID anymore.
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Your predictions will be wrong. People will not suddenly stop dying. Its not fake. All these sports are not voluntarily losing millions to push some political agenda. You believe in nonsense from fox news.
My two cents on COVID (not that anyone cares but everyone seems to be throwing it in):
- Serious medical condition for some small portion of the population with one or more of the following medical issues: older, hypertensive, diabetic, have cancer or have other compromised health issues. Yeah, I have the trifecta of being older with hypertension and diabetes! Yeah me! :)
- Non-serious medical issue for the rest of the population. Like having the flu.
- Very conflicting medical advice being given out about the effectiveness of: masks use, social distancing, length of time it is viable outside of a body, amount of virus in a cough viral load or effectiveness of disinfecting surfaces. For every study that concludes one way, I can find one that concludes another way.
- While the virus is a concern, the fear mongering around the virus is WAY over the top. It has purpose.
- Study out of the UK this past weekend over their summer term: Apr - Jun, 110,000 school aged children, over 200 school districts. Almost zero reported cases of either student to student transmission or student to teacher transmission. The fear mongering about our kids going back to school is over the top.
- If this were 2019 or 2021, I think the fear mongering would be significantly less than what we have seen this year. I think the fear mongering is attempting to effect an election.
- I predict that the fear mongering about COVID will almost disappear on 04 November 2020. The media will start fear mongering about something else (Trump the Dictator or Biden the Savior) but I don't think it will be COVID anymore.
My two cents.
http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=165627
Better wear a mask. This would explain why hot spots occur in stores, nursing homes, schools, bars, churches where people are not wearing masks
People that don’t wear masks have little dicksI wear masks and have the dick of a 5 foot 10 white guy that wears size 9.5 shoes. There is a venn diagram dying to be made here.
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apballin
08-12-2020, 06:01 PM
Betcha I've worked more days during this pandemic than you have. I've been averaging 1.5 days off per week since April. I've gotten it under control now, at a manageable 50-55 hours/week. Hell, I got here at 9AM and I'm still at work. So let's not go there. Also, it's never been about who ends up being right, it's about not being a fucking douchebag. I guess you're just dense.
100% there’s a season I’ll bet whatever you want since you work so much you should have some extra change to lose
HoosierinFL
08-12-2020, 10:22 PM
I wear masks and have the dick of a 5 foot 10 white guy that wears size 9.5 shoes. There is a venn diagram dying to be made here.
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You mean average. You have an average dick, congrats.
IndyNorm
08-13-2020, 09:36 AM
I don’t understand how masks got politicized. They don’t protect the user 100% that well, but they protect everyone else from the user. If everyone wears them then we bring transmission down. If something is telling you different then it is someone with an agenda. Wear a mask, protect your neighbor.
As for the fear mongering. Covid is now the third largest killer in the US now, and doesn’t seem to be stopping. If people don’t take it seriously it will not go away. People don’t have to freak out, just don’t minimize it either. You could say the left leaning news is talking too much Covid, but the right leaning news talks about protests 90% of the time. And I watch both. My sister lives in Portland, lives downtown works in the city, and she says she hasn’t even seen any of the protests. But watching the news you would think the city is burning down. I think we have a tendency to sensationalize issues more than they are in general. But I really don’t care about graffiti on public buildings as much when compared to a pandemic that could kill me.
People just need to listen to the medical advice from the experts, not the president or infowars or that one YouTube poster who also thinks the world is flat. Take it seriously, listen to advice and take precautions. And we can then end this sooner and get back to football.
Masks became politicized b/c the experts in the US (and by experts I mean Dr. Adams, Dr. Fauchi, etc.; not Trump) royally fucked up by initially telling us that masks wouldn't really help and in some cases (Dr. Adams) urged the population not to purchase them. Then a ~month into it they pulled a 180 and started telling everyone to wear them. There should have been enough data between Asian countries that handled the outbreak well (Japan, Taiwan) and European countries that didn't (Italy, France) for our experts to have known that wearing masks were a good idea.
With that being said, wearing a mask and keeping your distance from people outside your home are pretty easy asks (although I have yet to find a mask that doesn't fog up my glasses; fortunately I can get by pretty well without them), and we should all be following those recommendations/mandates until this is over with.
Oldcolt
08-13-2020, 09:58 AM
Masks became politicized b/c the experts in the US (and by experts I mean Dr. Adams, Dr. Fauchi, etc.; not Trump) royally fucked up by initially telling us that masks wouldn't really help and in some cases (Dr. Adams) urged the population not to purchase them. Then a ~month into it they pulled a 180 and started telling everyone to wear them. There should have been enough data between Asian countries that handled the outbreak well (Japan, Taiwan) and European countries that didn't (Italy, France) for our experts to have known that wearing masks were a good idea.
With that being said, wearing a mask and keeping your distance from people outside your home are pretty easy asks (although I have yet to find a mask that doesn't fog up my glasses; fortunately I can get by pretty well without them), and we should all be following those recommendations/mandates until this is over with.
Science changes when new facts emerge. Europe also was told no mask initially. When evidence that masks worked became obvious they changed their policy without any political issues. We have issues because the guy running the country needs division and doesn't put his full weight behind the wearing of masks.
IndyNorm
08-13-2020, 10:44 AM
Science changes when new facts emerge. Europe also was told no mask initially. When evidence that masks worked became obvious they changed their policy without any political issues. We have issues because the guy running the country needs division and doesn't put his full weight behind the wearing of masks.
While scientists are learning more about the virus itself everyday, masks have been around for centuries if not millennia. You would think epidemiologists would have had data on the uses of masks in similar types of virus outbreaks to make a better recommendation than urging people not to wear them. At the very least they should have been able to put together Asia=masks=minimal outbreak, Europe=no masks=shit hitting the fan.
Anyway, I agree that Trump is part of the problem and that anti-maskers are ricockulous. I was just answering the question as to how mask wearing became politicized in the first place.
rcubed
08-13-2020, 10:46 AM
Science changes when new facts emerge. Europe also was told no mask initially. When evidence that masks worked became obvious they changed their policy without any political issues. We have issues because the guy running the country needs division and doesn't put his full weight behind the wearing of masks.
This is a good post. Things change and we need to adapt quickly. Wearing a mask shouldnt be a big deal and we could cut down transmission rates if everyone wore them. But trump chose to not get behind the advice of scientists because his whole platform is "he knows best" and the dumbass people that blindly follow his every word got right behind it. Add on top that we have a lot of stupid people in this country that fight against something just to fight. Trump recently started somewhat supporting masks because he saw his poll numbers plummeting. Trump cares about getting reelected, nothing else.
HoosierinFL
08-13-2020, 12:45 PM
Science changes when new facts emerge. Europe also was told no mask initially. When evidence that masks worked became obvious they changed their policy without any political issues. We have issues because the guy running the country needs division and doesn't put his full weight behind the wearing of masks.
Also at the time, medical masks were in very short supply, and they were worried that people hoarding them would cause a shortage for front-line personnel.
HoosierinFL
08-13-2020, 12:49 PM
While scientists are learning more about the virus itself everyday, masks have been around for centuries if not millennia. You would think epidemiologists would have had data on the uses of masks in similar types of virus outbreaks to make a better recommendation than urging people not to wear them. At the very least they should have been able to put together Asia=masks=minimal outbreak, Europe=no masks=shit hitting the fan.
Anyway, I agree that Trump is part of the problem and that anti-maskers are ricockulous. I was just answering the question as to how mask wearing became politicized in the first place.
Partly the issue was that in the beginning they had no idea there was symptom-free transmission, meaning people could be positive with the virus, not experience symptoms, and still transmit this virus.
The advise originally was "if you are sick, quarantine yourself and wear a mask if you have to go out" which was before they discovered symptomless transmission.
Oh and you're wrong about the history of masks. Up until the early 1900s, doctors did not wear masks nor did they wash their hands, and were offended when it was suggested that they should do both.
The closest things to masks before then were those weird bird masks they wore during the plague, but that was just based on the "bad air" myth (the masks contained perfumes and incense thought to cleanse the air) and the plague was bloodborne anyway (fleas) so those didn't work at all.
Oldcolt
08-13-2020, 01:15 PM
Brand new diseases take time to understand. I think the scientific community 'thought' masks would be effective IF this was transmitted mostly thru airborne routes (remember wiping down groceries before we realized it was so much harder to get from surfaces) and (I believe this is key) there were a shortage of PPE for health care providers. Once it was proven to be mostly airborne it had to be proven that masks could prevent transmission before you ask a population to all wear masks. Once epidemiological studies showed benefit we changed. One positive thing about wearing masks is that it should really tamp down the flu season. It is a mess. I wish our government would just trust the scientific community and do what they say.
Maniac
08-13-2020, 05:50 PM
Masks became politicized b/c the experts in the US (and by experts I mean Dr. Adams, Dr. Fauchi, etc.; not Trump) royally fucked up by initially telling us that masks wouldn't really help and in some cases (Dr. Adams) urged the population not to purchase them. Then a ~month into it they pulled a 180 and started telling everyone to wear them. There should have been enough data between Asian countries that handled the outbreak well (Japan, Taiwan) and European countries that didn't (Italy, France) for our experts to have known that wearing masks were a good idea.
With that being said, wearing a mask and keeping your distance from people outside your home are pretty easy asks (although I have yet to find a mask that doesn't fog up my glasses; fortunately I can get by pretty well without them), and we should all be following those recommendations/mandates until this is over with.
Fauci stated that the reason they didn't initially recommend masks was because an even higher public run on buying them would have made it a dire situation for medical professionals. So they did it to keep things under control until enough were produced that they could handle the surge in demand. People don't seem to understand that Fauci is not a policy maker. He doesn't do that. He is an advisor. He gives information and recommendations and then the administration makes decisions based on those. When we heard him at press conferences and such, it was him supporting and explaining the decision the administration made.
That's not what politicized the masks though. Trump politicized them. He made fun of people wearing them. He encouraged people to revolt against governors who were trying to get their residents to wear masks and take it seriously. He said the virus would "go away" and that we would be at zero cases soon. His ridiculously poor leadership was what caused the politicization of masks and of the virus itself. He demonized medical experts and thought he knew more than they did. He found out otherwise and is now lying to try to cover up his ineptitude by trying to deflect it onto others. He is a con man.
Maniac
08-13-2020, 05:59 PM
Partly the issue was that in the beginning they had no idea there was symptom-free transmission, meaning people could be positive with the virus, not experience symptoms, and still transmit this virus.
The advise originally was "if you are sick, quarantine yourself and wear a mask if you have to go out" which was before they discovered symptomless transmission.
Oh and you're wrong about the history of masks. Up until the early 1900s, doctors did not wear masks nor did they wash their hands, and were offended when it was suggested that they should do both.
The closest things to masks before then were those weird bird masks they wore during the plague, but that was just based on the "bad air" myth (the masks contained perfumes and incense thought to cleanse the air) and the plague was bloodborne anyway (fleas) so those didn't work at all.
They knew that there was asymptomatic transmission. Listen to the Joe Rogan interview with Dr. Michael Osterholm from March:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFhjMQrVts
He mentions it at around 1:20 in.
They just didn't have the supply of masks to handle a huge public demand at that time.
Dr. Osterholm is a great person to listen to and learn from. He is not political. He only wants to find out the truth, the data, and let the public know what that data and truth is.
He did a good interview about the effectiveness of masks a little while ago as well.
Oldcolt
08-14-2020, 08:39 AM
Osterholm is one guy I really like. Straight shooter just gives facts that you can rely on. His views and predictions have been spot on. I agree completely with Maniacs assessment of what went wrong so far.
Spike
08-14-2020, 07:36 PM
I don't really give a shit if we have a season or not. I stopped watching
MLB and the NBA because of their political bullshit. Same goes with the NFL. I cancelled my Sunday NFL ticket for the same reasons. All of the leftist on this board are probably gonna be pissed off at me, but I really don't give a damn.
rm1369
08-14-2020, 11:55 PM
I don't really give a shit if we have a season or not. I stopped watching
MLB and the NBA because of their political bullshit. Same goes with the NFL. I cancelled my Sunday NFL ticket for the same reasons. All of the leftist on this board are probably gonna be pissed off at me, but I really don't give a damn.
As a “leftist” I fully support your decision. Personally I’m proud of you for standing up for your belief that players should just shut up and entertain you. I’m sure you’ll be sorely missed.
Spike
08-15-2020, 04:34 AM
As a “leftist” I fully support your decision. Personally I’m proud of you for standing up for your belief that players should just shut up and entertain you. I’m sure you’ll be sorely missed.
Thanks, but I seriously doubt I will be missed. There are a lot of posters who left that were way better posters than me. I use to love sports, not anymore.
Having said that, I'm not going anywhere unless the moderators ban me. I just hope sports gets back to entertaining us and they quit using sports for their political agenda.
IndyNorm
08-15-2020, 09:59 AM
Fauci stated that the reason they didn't initially recommend masks was because an even higher public run on buying them would have made it a dire situation for medical professionals. So they did it to keep things under control until enough were produced that they could handle the surge in demand. People don't seem to understand that Fauci is not a policy maker. He doesn't do that. He is an advisor. He gives information and recommendations and then the administration makes decisions based on those. When we heard him at press conferences and such, it was him supporting and explaining the decision the administration made.
That's not what politicized the masks though. Trump politicized them. He made fun of people wearing them. He encouraged people to revolt against governors who were trying to get their residents to wear masks and take it seriously. He said the virus would "go away" and that we would be at zero cases soon. His ridiculously poor leadership was what caused the politicization of masks and of the virus itself. He demonized medical experts and thought he knew more than they did. He found out otherwise and is now lying to try to cover up his ineptitude by trying to deflect it onto others. He is a con man.
Agree on Trump. He's certainly a big part of the problem and could and should have mostly put an end to the anti-maskers months ago. My point was that the experts initially saying masks weren't effective has given the anti-maskers a lot of fuel to put on their fire. I can't say that I know any anti-maskers (or have spent time with any since this all started), but that's typically one of the first things brought up on any social media "debate" that I've seen.
I saw that statement from Fauci on the concerns over mask shortages. It'd be interesting to see if there's any data on how many hospital grade masks were being stock and sold by places like Walmart and CVS. If that number is significant then fair enough. Although in hindsight it would have been better IMO to have issued an executive order that distributors could only sell them to medical facilities (which would be their largest customers anyway) and if necessary pull any stock from big box and drug stores. Then have the experts issue a statement saying that we should be wearing masks but cloth masks will do so leave the hospital grade masks for our medical professionals, and had a video showing how to make one since cloth masks were few and far between on the shelves.
Of course to your point the experts don't set policies, so maybe they tried to do that and the Trump administration balked at it and we ended up with what we got.
IndyNorm
08-15-2020, 10:16 AM
Partly the issue was that in the beginning they had no idea there was symptom-free transmission, meaning people could be positive with the virus, not experience symptoms, and still transmit this virus.
The advise originally was "if you are sick, quarantine yourself and wear a mask if you have to go out" which was before they discovered symptomless transmission.
Oh and you're wrong about the history of masks. Up until the early 1900s, doctors did not wear masks nor did they wash their hands, and were offended when it was suggested that they should do both.
The closest things to masks before then were those weird bird masks they wore during the plague, but that was just based on the "bad air" myth (the masks contained perfumes and incense thought to cleanse the air) and the plague was bloodborne anyway (fleas) so those didn't work at all.
Maniac beat me to it, but when the shut downs and social distancing measures were put in place we were told that ~80% of people who contract COVID would either be asymptomatic or have minor cold like symptoms. We were also told that people who were asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic were contagious which was a big reason as to why we had to social distance. But maybe you were referring to Jan-Feb timeframe.
Thanks for clarifying on the masks. Technically the technology was there, but sounds like it wasn't be utilized. At any rate masks still have been in use for over a century and were used during the Spanish Flu pandemic. Our medical experts had plenty of data on social distancing from 1918 that they used. You would think there would have been data on the effects of mask usage as well.
Has anyone here ever had a surgical procedure? They wheel you in to surgery and EVERYBODY is wearing a mask, except you. Are they worried they will get something from you or is it that YOU could catch something from them because a hospital is a giant petri dish.
If everyone in this country would put on a mask for 90 days, we could bring covid under control
Brylok
08-16-2020, 12:07 AM
100% there’s a season I’ll bet whatever you want since you work so much you should have some extra change to lose
Again with the douchebag, thick as a brick response. Yaknowwut...I'm done. Strike 300. Welcome to my ignore list: Population: 1 (you). Congratulations. I won't miss reading your nonsense.
apballin
09-11-2020, 04:00 PM
Well we started the season and they showed a stat during the game they have administered 6000 tests and 6 players have tested positive doesn’t sound alarming to me. NBA, mlb, ihsaa football is all going along so I guess we’ll see......
Chromeburn
09-12-2020, 01:08 PM
Well we started the season and they showed a stat during the game they have administered 6000 tests and 6 players have tested positive doesn’t sound alarming to me. NBA, mlb, ihsaa football is all going along so I guess we’ll see......
High school near me shut down bc of positive tests. The nba has the bubble and mlb had quite a few problems. We will see, a lot more players and personnel to account for with football unfortunately.
TheMugwump
09-12-2020, 01:51 PM
Well we started the season and they showed a stat during the game they have administered 6000 tests and 6 players have tested positive doesn’t sound alarming to me. NBA, mlb, ihsaa football is all going along so I guess we’ll see......
Starting a season and having a season are not the same thing. I hope you're right. I doubt it, but I hope you are correct.
Now, on to Sunday.
apballin
09-13-2020, 11:56 AM
Starting a season and having a season are not the same thing. I hope you're right. I doubt it, but I hope you are correct.
Now, on to Sunday.
As of kickoff Sunday zero players are out because of COVID
Colts And Orioles
09-29-2020, 01:47 PM
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In related news ......
8 people in the Titans organization (3 players and 5 team personnel members) received positive tests.
Titans Suspend Activities After Positive Covid-19 Tests
(By Ben Shpigel)
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/sports/football/nfl-titans-vikings-coronavirus.html
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njcoltfan
09-29-2020, 02:20 PM
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In related news ......
8 people in the Titans organization (3 players and 5 team personnel members) received positive tests.
Titans Suspend Activities After Positive Covid-19 Tests
(By Ben Shpigel)
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/sports/football/nfl-titans-vikings-coronavirus.html
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Hopefully this isn’t the start of something bigger.
Colts And Orioles
09-29-2020, 02:58 PM
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In related news ......
8 people in the Titans organization (3 players and 5 team personnel members) received positive tests.
Titans Suspend Activities After Positive Covid-19 Tests
(By Ben Shpigel)
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/sports/football/nfl-titans-vikings-coronavirus.html
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Hopefully, this isn’t the start of something bigger.
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Perhaps the best-case scenario would be if the upcoming game between the Titans and the Steelers is postponed, and made up in later in the season ...... but they have different Bye weeks, so it might be difficult to fit it in. Plus, the Vikings-Texans game also includes 2 teams which have different Bye weeks.
Unless those games are played this week, it may force the league to push the entire season back for one week for everybody ...... unlike baseball, basketball, and hockey, football cannot be played 3 or 4 times in the same week by a team, so the prospect of any team(s) "shutting down" for any period of time is more alarming/distressing.
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Colts And Orioles
09-29-2020, 03:07 PM
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In related news ......
8 people in the Titans organization (3 players and 5 team personnel members) received positive tests.
Titans Suspend Activities After Positive Covid-19 Tests
(By Ben Shpigel)
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/sports/football/nfl-titans-vikings-coronavirus.html
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Perhaps the best-case scenario would be if the upcoming game between the Titans and the Steelers is postponed, and made up in later in the season ...... but they have different Bye weeks, so it might be difficult to fit it in. Plus, the Vikings-Texans game also includes 2 teams which have different Bye weeks.
Unless those games are played this week, it may force the league to push the entire season back for one week for everybody ...... unlike baseball, basketball, and hockey, football cannot be played 3 or 4 times in the same week by a team, so the prospect of any team(s) "shutting down" for any period of time is more alarming/distressing.
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Jordan Dajani )explains one possibility to make the Steelers/Titans game up, should it be postponed ........
Here's How the Steelers-Titans Week 4 Match-up Could Be Rescheduled
(By Jordan Dajani)
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-covid-19-outbreak-heres-how-steelers-titans-week-4-matchup-could-be-rescheduled/
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Chromeburn
09-29-2020, 03:24 PM
Hopefully this isn’t the start of something bigger.
From what I have been reading we might face another surge. Think it’s happening in other parts of the world. Might spread to here.
Colts And Orioles
09-29-2020, 03:45 PM
From what I have been reading, we might face another surge. I think that it’s happening in other parts of the world ...... it might spread to here.
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In professional sports, they essentially "bubble" teams' players and coaches, and have access to constant testing (not available to the majority of other American citizens.)
I'm not necessarily saying that it will all work out well for the NFL this season, but they do have an advantage over the majority of other factions/blocs/groups in society in terms of controlling and minimizing the spread of the disease.
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Chromeburn
09-29-2020, 04:05 PM
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In professional sports, they essentially "bubble" teams' players and coaches, and have access to constant testing (not available to the majority of other American citizens.)
I'm not necessarily saying that it will all work out well for the NFL this season, but they do have an advantage over the majority of other factions/blocs/groups in society in terms of controlling and minimizing the spread of the disease.
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True, but I feel the NFL is the hardest to do this with because teams still have to travel and the sheer amount of people involved and that they interact with. Its easier with sports that have fewer players.
Colts And Orioles
09-29-2020, 04:32 PM
True, but I feel that the NFL is the hardest to do this with because teams still have to travel, the sheer amount of people involved, and the fact that they interact with each other so closely. It's easier with sports that have fewer players.
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Agreed.
As I stated in a previous post, football is unique in that you can only play it one time per week ...... there are no doubleheaders, no playing 3 or 4 times a week, etc.
In fact, even before this whole COVID crisis, college football teams in recent years have often had a hard time making up games when there were torrential storms/hurricanes. Sometimes they would substitute a game with a I-AA team in place of the canceled game, and sometimes they would just cancel it altogether and finish the season with 11 regular-season games (as opposed to 12.)
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Colts And Orioles
09-30-2020, 09:30 AM
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DaQuan Jones ) llll- llllllDEFENSIVE LINEMAN
Beau Brinkley ) l- llllllLONG SNAPPER
Tommy Hudson ) ...- llllllTIGHT END ) (Practice Squad)
Who Are the 3 Titans Who Tested Positive for COVID-19 ???
(By Erik Bacharach)
https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nfl/titans/2020/09/29/titans-covid-19-who-tested-positive-daquan-jones-beau-brinkley/3579461001/
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Colts And Orioles
10-01-2020, 02:02 AM
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DaQuan Jones ) llll- llllllDEFENSIVE LINEMAN
Beau Brinkley ) l- llllllLONG SNAPPER
Tommy Hudson ) ...- llllllTIGHT END ) (Practice Squad)
Who Are the 3 Titans Who Tested Positive for COVID-19 ???
(By Erik Bacharach)
https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nfl/titans/2020/09/29/titans-covid-19-who-tested-positive-daquan-jones-beau-brinkley/3579461001/
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One more Titans player tested positive ......
Kamalei Correa ) llll- llllllLINEBACKER
Kamalei Correa Tests Positive for COVID-19 Ahead of Steelers Game
(By Erik Bacharach)
https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nfl/titans/2020/09/30/titans-covid-19-positive-steelers-nfl-week-4-2020/3586130001/
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Chromeburn
10-01-2020, 12:04 PM
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Agreed.
As I stated in a previous post, football is unique in that you can only play it one time per week ...... there are no doubleheaders, no playing 3 or 4 times a week, etc.
In fact, even before this whole COVID crisis, college football teams in recent years have often had a hard time making up games when there were torrential storms/hurricanes. Sometimes they would substitute a game with a I-AA team in place of the canceled game, and sometimes they would just cancel it altogether and finish the season with 11 regular-season games (as opposed to 12.)
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They probably should have worked in another bye week in the season. Hard to do, but it could have been used as a makeup week. So many logistics involved.
omahacolt
10-01-2020, 05:13 PM
This democrat hoax is starting to annoy me
Colts And Orioles
10-02-2020, 12:56 AM
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0 Vikings tested positive ...... woo hoo.
Vikings Have Had 0 Positive Tests, Plan to Play on Sunday
(By Eric Smith)
https://www.vikings.com/news/vikings-have-had-0-positive-tests-plan-to-play-on-sunday
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TheMugwump
10-03-2020, 12:04 PM
Cam Newton will miss this week's game after a positive test:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/03/sports/cam-newton-reportedly-tests-positive-covid-19-will-miss-game-vs-chiefs/?fbclid=IwAR1gvYuzGBaiQHh-qDhxR11MzFZtTB1gDx07JhxOUm6jzFI3Wx6Q9okqHvs
Hoopsdoc
10-03-2020, 03:10 PM
This democrat hoax is starting to annoy me
Those sneaky Dems are really good. They even got Trump! to go along!!!
Colts And Orioles
10-11-2020, 12:24 PM
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DaQuan Jones ) llll- llllllDEFENSIVE LINEMAN
Beau Brinkley ) l- llllllLONG SNAPPER
Tommy Hudson ) ...- llllllTIGHT END ) (Practice Squad)
Who Are the 3 Titans Who Tested Positive for COVID-19 ???
(By Erik Bacharach)
https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nfl/titans/2020/09/29/titans-covid-19-who-tested-positive-daquan-jones-beau-brinkley/3579461001/
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ALMOST 2 WEEKS LATER:
The Titans have closed their facility ........ it is not immediately clear how Sunday's positive test would affect the rescheduled home game against the Buffalo Bills on Tuesday.
Titans' COVID-19 Outbreak: 1 More Staff Member Tests Positive Sunday, Threatening Bills Game
(By Erik Bacharach)
https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nfl/titans/2020/10/11/titans-covid-19-buffalo-bills-postpone-outbreak-nfl-week-5/5939196002/
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Chromeburn
10-15-2020, 03:23 PM
Odell Beckum has been sent home with an unknown illness
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