2020 Draft Day 3 Discussion Thread

[Ironshaft]

The Colts filled two offensive play maker spots yesterday and drafted some much needed safety depth to play either as their third safety or challenge Willis for SS once he is recovered from his knee injury; perhaps by October.

Colts front office obviously loves the Blackmon pick; let's just say that I think value was elsewhere (cough....TE....cough) and leave it at that.

The Colts pick 16th in round 4 and 3rd in round 5, there are some interesting guys still left on the board:

-- ALL the QBs are still hanging around after the top five went in rounds one and two. Fromm, Easton, Morgan, Gordon. They might start becoming pretty good value in the 4th and 5th rounds even if you don't think they could become starters in the league.

-- Lots of TEs still available like Harrison Bryant, Albert Okwuegbunam, Hunter Bryant and Brycen Hopkins. Might still be able to grab one of those guys in the 4th or 5th.

-- OG John Simpson out of Clemson is still on the board and I have zero idea why. He seems like a plug and play starter.

-- A couple of OTs still on the board like Prince Tega Wanogho, Saahdiq Charles, and Ben Bartch.

-- Some DEs also on the board like James Lynch, Jason Strowbridge, Trevis Gipson and Alton Robinson.

-- Heck, Gabriel Davis, Isaiah Hodgins and Antonio Gandy-Golden are still on the board at WR.

Lots of talent that can help us from day one to be had in the 4th and 5th rounds. Who do you like?

[jasperhobbs]

I think the colts have to go with an O-lineman and I like Ben Bartch

[Ironshaft]

I think the colts have to go with an O-lineman and I like Ben Bartch

I would agree.....however.....

I just listened to Ballard's post day 2 press conference on Colts.com and the last question was about O-line depth. Ballard specifically mentioned Eldenkamp as interior depth and Clark as OT depth and was not concerned in the least about adding to it. Said that if there were guys there, sure but if not, then there was a lot of time before TC to add veteran free agents.

Seems to me that Ballard is not really that interested in adding O-line depth in the draft. It might have been a smoke screen but we will see.

[jasperhobbs]

I would agree.....however.....

I just listened to Ballard's post day 2 press conference on Colts.com and the last question was about O-line depth. Ballard specifically mentioned Eldenkamp as interior depth and Clark as OT depth and was not concerned in the least about adding to it. Said that if there were guys there, sure but if not, then there was a lot of time before TC to add veteran free agents.

Seems to me that Ballard is not really that interested in adding O-line depth in the draft. It might have been a smoke screen but we will see.

Next year's draft must be when they address finding a replacement for Costanzo. Clark certainly is not the answer and left tackles usually are high draft choices.

[Maniac]

I don't see why they need TE at all. OL, DE, CB need to be addressed

[Ironshaft]

I don't see why they need TE at all. OL, DE, CB need to be addressed
Perhaps because we only have two on the roster with NFL play experience and that the Colts offense likes to be able to switch from 3 WR to 2 TE to force defenses into either changing personnel or staying in the wrong personnel group.

This year, my guess is that we will be adding quite a bit of split RB formations as well making the offense even more unpredictable now that we have a QB that can run that sort of thing.

[Colt Classic]

Just find another power forward ex-basketball player who doesn't get drafted to use for TE depth.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Perhaps because we only have two on the roster with NFL play experience

Three with the signing of Trey Burton earlier this week

[Ironshaft]

Three with the signing of Trey Burton earlier this weekLol, forgot about that signing! :)

Okay, fine. WR, DE, CB, perhaps O-line late. Plan for day 3.

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[Hoopsdoc]

Three with the signing of Trey Burton earlier this week

I knew when they signed Burton that they weren’t drafting a tight end in the first 2 days.

[BCN#1]

At this point, I can't help think they get an OT to learn under Castanzo. There is one dude from Kansas... Hakeem Adeniji??? Seems like a fit.

Definitely think we need a solid EDGE also - can't have enough of them otherwise, I'd I go fishing in the WR pool once again. :)

[Chromeburn]

Here are some available guys we could choose from. Got this from 1070

QB-Jacob Eason (Washington)

QB-Jake Fromm (Georgia)

QB-Anthony Gordon (Washington State)

WR-Antonio Gandy-Golden (Liberty)

WR-K.J. Hill (Ohio State)

WR-Kalija Lipscomb (Vanderbilt)

WR-Donovan Peoples-Jones (Michigan)

WR-Joe Reed (Virginia)

WR-Collin Johnson (Texas)

TE-Harrison Bryant (Florida Atlantic)

TE-Hunter Bryant (Washington)

TE-Brycen Hopkins (Purdue)

TE-Albert Okwuegbunam (Missouri)

TE-Colby Parkinson (Stanford)

OT-Trey Adams (Washington)

OT-Ben Bartch (Saint John’s)

OT-Saahdiq Charles (LSU)

OT-Charlie Heck (North Carolina)

OT-Colton McKivitz (West Virginia)

OT-Prince Tega Wanogho (Auburn)

OG-Netane Muti (Fresno State)

OG/C-Tyler Biadasz (Wisconsin)

OG/C-John Simpson (Clemson)

DT-Jason Strowbridge (North Carolina)

DE-Bradlee Anae (Utah)

DE-Nick Coe (Auburn)

DE-Curtis Weaver (Boise State)

DE-Kenny Willekes (Michigan State)

DE-D.J. Wonnum (South Carolina)

LB-Akeem Davis-Gaither (Appalachian State)

LB-Troy Dye (Oregon)

CB-Javaris Davis (Auburn)

CB-Bryce Hall (Virginia)

CB-Lavert Hill (Michigan)

CB-Darnay Holmes (UCLA)

CB-Troy Pride (Notre Dame)

CB-Amik Robertson (Louisiana Tech)

S-Geno Stone (Iowa)

S-K’Von Wallace (Clemson)

[rm1369]

They definitely need to add DL in this draft - especially at DT. I believe Autry, Day, and Stewart are all FAs after this year. That’s 3/4 of the expected rotation. They would technically still have Lewis, but he can’t be counted on for anything. DE is a little better with both Turray and Banogu under contract, but we know little about Banogu.

I really hope for two additions on the DL on day 3.

[Oldcolt]

for those of you worried that Taylor has to much wear on him


www.st-va.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5405788/

[IndyNorm]

This is solely based on discussion here and other internet speculation, but I'd like to see us take James Morgan with one of our 6th rounders if he's still there. It does seem like we're pretty interested:

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2020/4/22/21230640/report-colts-have-had-multiple-virtual-meetings-with-fiu-qb-james-morgan

[Colt Classic]

It looks like Goddell has an Xbox One Kinect in the background.

[Ironshaft]

for those of you worried that Taylor has to much wear on him


www.st-va.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5405788/

That, was well played, sir! Well played.

[Spike]

Washington trades LT Trent Williams to the 49ers for a 5th this year and a 3rd next year. Great trade for the 49ers.

[Racehorse]

Washington trades LT Trent Williams to the 49ers for a 5th this year and a 3rd next year. Great trade for the 49ers.

They are going to be a tough out this year. That may be the best division in the league.

[jasperhobbs]

Washington trades LT Trent Williams to the 49ers for a 5th this year and a 3rd next year. Great trade for the 49ers.

They are going to be a tough out this year. That may be the best division in the league.

It doesn't matter who Niners get, Tampa Tom will have the Bucs in the Superbowl.

[smitty46953]

Washington trades LT Trent Williams to the 49ers for a 5th this year and a 3rd next year. Great trade for the 49ers.

I told vevejones yesterday we should offer a deal like that :cool:

[Chromeburn]

They definitely need to add DL in this draft - especially at DT. I believe Autry, Day, and Stewart are all FAs after this year. That’s 3/4 of the expected rotation. They would technically still have Lewis, but he can’t be counted on for anything. DE is a little better with both Turray and Banogu under contract, but we know little about Banogu.

I really hope for two additions on the DL on day 3.

Stowbridge in the 4th could be a possibility.

[smitty46953]

Hoping for Tyler Biadasz Wisconsin OG/C :cool:

[Colt Classic]

Perine to the Jests...and there's the usual commercial break while the Colts are on the clock. Maybe they'll announce the pick in 30 minutes.

[Maniac]

They have been on the clock forever

[Big Smooth]

Sounds right

[smitty46953]

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Meanwhile, back to the draft… the #Colts take a QB! Washington QB Jacob Eason heads to Indy.

[Maniac]

Jacob Eason.

Well, there's a QB

[YDFL Commish]

Holy Fuck. Eason.

[Dam8610]

Took Chromeburn's list, added some players, bolded interesting names, and added rounds of interest.

QB-Jacob Eason (Washington)

QB-Jake Fromm (Georgia)

QB-Anthony Gordon (Washington State) 5-6

WR-Antonio Gandy-Golden (Liberty) 5-6

WR-K.J. Hill (Ohio State) 4-6

WR-Kalija Lipscomb (Vanderbilt)

WR-Donovan Peoples-Jones (Michigan) 4-6

WR-Joe Reed (Virginia)

WR-Collin Johnson (Texas)

TE-Harrison Bryant (Florida Atlantic)

TE-Hunter Bryant (Washington) 4

TE-Brycen Hopkins (Purdue) 4

TE-Albert Okwuegbunam (Missouri)

TE-Colby Parkinson (Stanford)

OT-Trey Adams (Washington)

OT-Ben Bartch (Saint John’s)

OT-Saahdiq Charles (LSU)

OT-Charlie Heck (North Carolina)

OT-Colton McKivitz (West Virginia)

OT-Prince Tega Wanogho (Auburn) 4-5

OG-Netane Muti (Fresno State) 4-5

OG/C-Tyler Biadasz (Wisconsin) 4

OG/C-John Simpson (Clemson) 4-5

DT-Jason Strowbridge (North Carolina)

DT-James Lynch (Baylor) 4-6

DE-Bradlee Anae (Utah) 4

DE-Nick Coe (Auburn)

DE-Curtis Weaver (Boise State) 4

DE-Kenny Willekes (Michigan State) 5-6

DE-D.J. Wonnum (South Carolina)

LB-Akeem Davis-Gaither (Appalachian State)

LB-Troy Dye (Oregon)

CB-Javaris Davis (Auburn)

CB-Bryce Hall (Virginia) 4

CB-Lavert Hill (Michigan)

CB-Darnay Holmes (UCLA)

CB-Troy Pride (Notre Dame)

CB-Amik Robertson (Louisiana Tech)

S-Geno Stone (Iowa)

S-K’Von Wallace (Clemson)

[Dam8610]

Jacob Eason.

Well, there's a QB

Interesting, must've liked the value this late. Surprised he wasn't taken Day 2. Still would've liked a OL or DL, but hopefully this will work out better.

[Big Smooth]

6'6" damn

[Colt Classic]

Again, if NE wants Brissett the price is 2 first rounders. Anyone else, much cheaper.

[Maniac]

Brissett has to be gone now.

[YDFL Commish]

Brissett has to be gone now.

Not necessarily. I don't wanna have an unproven rookie starting games, if Rivers gets injured.

All you Chad Kelly lovers out there can resat assured he's gone though.

[Dam8610]

6'6" damn

Big QB, big arm. Probably strongest arm in the class. Reads and manipulates defenses like Burrow and Tagavailoa. Doesn't have either of their accuracy or mobility. Tried to play hero ball too much and made bad decisions at times as a result. Needs a lot of film room work. Colts drafting him makes me feel much better about work ethic concerns that were out there.

[Dam8610]

Brissett has to be gone now.

Why? This will assuredly be a redshirt year for Eason. He needs to work his ass off in the film room to improve his decision making. He'd look like Ryan Leaf going out there right now, though I don't think he'd psychologically fold like Leaf did.

[smitty46953]

Big QB, big arm. Probably strongest arm in the class. Reads and manipulates defenses like Burrow and Tagavailoa. Doesn't have either of their accuracy or mobility. Tried to play hero ball too much and made bad decisions at times as a result. Needs a lot of film room work. Colts drafting him makes me feel much better about work ethic concerns that were out there.

Exactly right, hopefully with our line the mobility won't be much of an issue, step up and throw it. Hopefully a year behind Rivers and Reich tutoring him his accuracy improves and it will all work out... :cool::cool:

[JAFF]

Brissett has to be gone now.

Not necessarily. What happens if Rivers gets hurt?

[Maniac]

Not necessarily. I don't wanna have an unproven rookie starting games, if Rivers gets injured.

All you Chad Kelly lovers out there can resat assured he's gone though.

I would rather keep Kelly over Brissett. At least Kelly has upside. We know Brissett sucks.

[Ironshaft]

After hearing Ballard for months, there is no way that they drafted a QB whom they don't have complete confidence has all the tools to be a starter in the NFL. They did not draft a QB just to have one in development.

Now, if Easton comes in, works his butt of and earns it, he could be our starter in a year or two; I have little doubt about his talent.

Love the value of this in the 4th round. Would have hated picking him in the 2nd round.

[Maniac]

Not necessarily. What happens if Rivers gets hurt?

Then either Kelly or Eason comes in and gets some experience.

Are the Colts going to keep 3 QB's on the active roster all year?

[YDFL Commish]

I would rather keep Kelly over Brissett. At least Kelly has upside. We know Brissett sucks.

I like the combination of Brissett and Rivers showinmg Eason how to work in the NFL. The won't allow him to slack off.

Now trading Brissett before the trade deadline, mid-season would make sense.

[Maniac]

I like the combination of Brissett and Rivers showinmg Eason how to work in the NFL. The won't allow him to slack off.

Now trading Brissett before the trade deadline, mid-season would make sense.

Why can't Rivers do that on his own? Why does he need Brissett there to do the same thing?

Ballard will probably keep Brissett and cut Kelly, but I'm over Brissett already.

[YDFL Commish]

Really like CB Amik Robertson form La Tech in the 5th. He would be nice to have behind Kenny Moore.

[Hoopsdoc]

I would rather keep Kelly over Brissett. At least Kelly has upside. We know Brissett sucks.

Nonsense. Kelly is less than nothing, a complete unknown. We know Brissett can win some, if forced into action.

[omahacolt]

Nonsense. Kelly is less than nothing, a complete unknown. We know Brissett can win some, if forced into action.

Brissett needs to be gone. He is a losing prospect at qb

[rm1369]

I’m surprised at the choice of Eason with the leadership and work ethic concerns. Hopefully it means those concerns were just overblown. Between Rivers and JB he’ll have some decent leadership examples to learn from. The physical characteristics are definitely intriguing.

[YDFL Commish]

Wonder why CB Bryce Hall has slipped so far.

[YDFL Commish]

I'm looking at Hunter Bryant, Bryce Hall and Curtis Weaver here.

[JAFF]

BS BS BSU. Worlds tiny mighty bird

[rcubed]

Brissett will be traded by deadline unless rivers gets an injury.

Rivers is starter for two years. By then we will know if eason has enough and he will become starter or we look for another guy.


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[YDFL Commish]

Brissett will be traded by deadline unless rivers gets an injury.

Rivers is starter for two years. By then we will know if eason has enough and he will become starter or we look for another guy.


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Exactly how I feel.

[Hoopsdoc]

Brissett needs to be gone. He is a losing prospect at qb

In a pinch, you’d rather have Kelly than Brissett? That’s dumb. Really dumb.

[Racehorse]

Pinter? At least it is not PaINTer.

[Ironshaft]

An interesting pick at OG.

One year starter after being a TE for years in college. Late bloomer.

I wonder if they are looking at him for interior O-Line or back as a blocking TE?

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

I wonder if they are looking at him for interior O-Line or back as a blocking TE?

On Colts.com, they list him as an O-Lineman. If a team plans to convert a player to a different position, they usually list the new position instead of the position played in college.

[smitty46953]

An interesting pick at OG.

One year starter after being a TE for years in college. Late bloomer.

I wonder if they are looking at him for interior O-Line or back as a blocking TE?

Interesting article on Pinter, I like the pick


https://www.thestarpress.com/story/sports/college/ball-state/2020/03/18/nfl-draft-offensive-lineman-ball-state-danny-pinter-promising/5072088002/

:cool:

[IndyNorm]

Brissett will be traded by deadline unless rivers gets an injury.

Rivers is starter for two years. By then we will know if eason has enough and he will become starter or we look for another guy.


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This probably depends on how the start of the season goes and how Eason progresses. If we're off to a good start and looking like a playoff team and Eason isn't ready to fill in yet, then we could keep Brissett and let him walk after the year.

[IndyNorm]

In a pinch, you’d rather have Kelly than Brissett? That’s dumb. Really dumb.

On top of the complete unknown on the field (at least against 1st team defenses) you also have to factor in the off the field risks from Kelly. As soon as he feels like he's off a short leash, he could very well go back to get fucked up and breaking into peoples' houses.

[rcubed]

This probably depends on how the start of the season goes and how Eason progresses. If we're off to a good start and looking like a playoff team and Eason isn't ready to fill in yet, then we could keep Brissett and let him walk after the year.
Also a good possibility.

I was thinking ballard would like to get a pick for him rather than just let him leave.


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[Chromeburn]

Wonder why CB Bryce Hall has slipped so far.

He is labeled as a zone corner and not fast enough for man

[IndyNorm]

I’m surprised at the choice of Eason with the leadership and work ethic concerns. Hopefully it means those concerns were just overblown. Between Rivers and JB he’ll have some decent leadership examples to learn from. The physical characteristics are definitely intriguing.

I wonder if a lot of the work ethic concerns are from his time at Georgia and not Washington. I could see a situation where up until college his talent probably carried him without having to work hard along with too much partying in his early college days.

[IndyNorm]

Also a good possibility.

I was thinking ballard would like to get a pick for him rather than just let him leave.


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Ideally I think you're right. I just think that if we're marching towards the playoffs and Eason isn't ready to fill in that Ballard and Reich will want to keep Brissett as insurance in case Rivers gets hurt.

[Chromeburn]

I wonder if a lot of the work ethic concerns are from his time at Georgia and not Washington. I could see a situation where up until college his talent probably carried him without having to work hard along with too much partying in his early college days.

Rumor was he didn't know the whole offense at UW despite a year on the bench. But those are rumors, hard to put much stock in them. I would think the coaching staff has much better access and knowledge. He has the arm, I think he folds a lot under pressure. Colorado just destroyed him this year and he didn't know what to do. There were maturity issues at Georgia I think too. Liked to party. There was speculation that he would do better at a small market than a big market where he has more opportunity to get in trouble.

Still for the 4th round he is a pretty good value.

[Brylok]

My gut instinct tells me that Eason is a spoiled, punk ass prima donna, but I hope that's wrong. He and his family (and trophy girlfriend) pouting on the couch with their mad faces on as he fell through the draft order was a baddd look. We shall see.

[JAFF]

An interesting pick at OG.

One year starter after being a TE for years in college. Late bloomer.

I wonder if they are looking at him for interior O-Line or back as a blocking TE?

Good athlete, tough enough to step inside

[YDFL Commish]

Still for the 4th round he is a pretty good value.

Damn straight it's good value. It's a gamble, but a low risk/high reward gamble.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

But those are rumors, hard to put much stock in them. I would think the coaching staff has much better access and knowledge.

I mentioned in the Eason thread that it might be a bit easier to vet in this particular instance.

I would think that current Colts coach Chris Strausser could really dig up information about Eason by talking with former colleagues at UW. Strausser and Eason's time at Washington didn't overlap but Chris will know plenty of people to talk to for intel.

[smitty46953]

My gut instinct tells me that Eason is a spoiled, punk ass prima donna, but I hope that's wrong. He and his family (and trophy girlfriend) pouting on the couch with their mad faces on as he fell through the draft order was a baddd look. We shall see.

Yes, I noticed that too... Need smack that ego out of him. Needs quit worrying about his endorsements and learn to be a man and not a Diva... :cool:

[omahacolt]

My gut instinct tells me that Eason is a spoiled, punk ass prima donna, but I hope that's wrong. He and his family (and trophy girlfriend) pouting on the couch with their mad faces on as he fell through the draft order was a baddd look. We shall see.

I really appreciate the quick and decisive judgement on the kid. Well done

[omahacolt]

In a pinch, you’d rather have Kelly than Brissett? That’s dumb. Really dumb.

I would rather have not Brissett. I know what I get with Brissett and it is losing football.

[Chromeburn]

I mentioned in the Eason thread that it might be a bit easier to vet in this particular instance.

I would think that current Colts coach Chris Strausser could really dig up information about Eason by talking with former colleagues at UW. Strausser and Eason's time at Washington didn't overlap but Chris will know plenty of people to talk to for intel.

Supposedly at Georgia he progressed a lot. They have one of the best QB coaches in college and he said Eason made a ton of progress but people didn’t get to see that on the field bc of losing his job to Fromm.

[Chromeburn]

My gut instinct tells me that Eason is a spoiled, punk ass prima donna, but I hope that's wrong. He and his family (and trophy girlfriend) pouting on the couch with their mad faces on as he fell through the draft order was a baddd look. We shall see.

That’s a tough spot. I can think of many QBs that have fallen over the years. How they handled it. I think he was told late first to second round by committee. He really should have stayed for another year, but UW head coach retired.

[IndyNorm]

Rumor was he didn't know the whole offense at UW despite a year on the bench. But those are rumors, hard to put much stock in them. I would think the coaching staff has much better access and knowledge. He has the arm, I think he folds a lot under pressure. Colorado just destroyed him this year and he didn't know what to do. There were maturity issues at Georgia I think too. Liked to party. There was speculation that he would do better at a small market than a big market where he has more opportunity to get in trouble.

Still for the 4th round he is a pretty good value.

Yeah, the playbook thing would be a concern if true. If he's cleaned up the partying then IMO it's not a big deal, since most college freshman party too hard. It's brought up a lot that his completion percentage in the first half was much better than the 4th quarter (something like 70% vs. 58%) which could mean he and/or the UW staff have a hard time making adjustments.

Anyway, agree on the value in the 4th. With his physical talent, if he can put it together then he'll be a steal. If not then it's not a big deal.

[IndyNorm]

I mentioned in the Eason thread that it might be a bit easier to vet in this particular instance.

I would think that current Colts coach Chris Strausser could really dig up information about Eason by talking with former colleagues at UW. Strausser and Eason's time at Washington didn't overlap but Chris will know plenty of people to talk to for intel.

Yeah, saw that. Think it's an excellent point.

[Spike]

Why in the hell did the Colts trade a pick to the Pats? I wouldn't ever help those bastards.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Why in the hell did the Colts trade a pick to the Pats? I wouldn't ever help those bastards.


Ballard wanted more picks.

Colts trade pick 6.182 to the Cheats for picks 6.212 and 6.213

[YDFL Commish]

Why in the hell did the Colts trade a pick to the Pats? I wouldn't ever help those bastards.

Ballard wins every trade with them...no worries.

[IndyNorm]

Why in the hell did the Colts trade a pick to the Pats? I wouldn't ever help those bastards.

I agree. Even if it's a good deal for us; fuck them.

[Kray007]

My gut instinct tells me that Eason is a spoiled, punk ass prima donna, but I hope that's wrong. He and his family (and trophy girlfriend) pouting on the couch with their mad faces on as he fell through the draft order was a baddd look. We shall see.

First off, when did we start giving demerits for having a hot girlfriend?

Second, name me a few players whose draft stock plummeted who looked happy and chipper when ESPN’s draft camera panned over them in the green room.

[Dam8610]

My gut instinct tells me that Eason is a spoiled, punk ass prima donna, but I hope that's wrong. He and his family (and trophy girlfriend) pouting on the couch with their mad faces on as he fell through the draft order was a baddd look. We shall see.

The Colts have a person in their front office that only assesses the mental aspect of each player in the draft process. They would've taken Eason off their board if they didn't feel he had the work ethic and character to succeed in the NFL. That's something no one but front offices have the ability to assess, so you have to trust that they made that call correctly, and it's something they've been fairly good at assessing.

[YDFL Commish]

The Colts have a person in their front office that only assesses the mental aspect of each player in the draft process. They would've taken Eason off their board if they didn't feel he had the work ethic and character to succeed in the NFL. That's something no one but front offices have the ability to assess, so you have to trust that they made that call correctly, and it's something they've been fairly good at assessing.

Under Ballard...yes. Grigson was a disaster in that department.

[Ironshaft]

Ballard wanted more picks.



Colts trade pick 6.182 to the Cheats for picks 6.212 and 6.213They must have a big mess of guys they think are good value and will still be there.

Get 3 guys instead on 2 for depth. Works for me.

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[YDFL Commish]

Hunter Bryant, Prince Tega Wanagho, Kenny Wllekes?

[Chromeburn]

First off, when did we start giving demerits for having a hot girlfriend?

Second, name me a few players whose draft stock plummeted who looked happy and chipper when ESPN’s draft camera panned over them in the green room.

Maybe he should be like all those QB's with ugly girlfriends

[Spike]

Ballard wanted more picks.

Colts trade pick 6.182 to the Cheats for picks 6.212 and 6.213

I wouldn't mind the trade if it was with any other team, just not those bastards. It's like selling your soul!

[Dam8610]

Rob Windsor, anyone know anything about him, other than he played for Penn State?

[YDFL Commish]

Robert Windsor DT, Penn State

[YDFL Commish]

Rob Windsor, anyone know anything about him, other than he played for Penn State?


Suppose to have some 1-gap penetration skills. Might be a future replacement for Autry.

[Luck4Reich]

I would rather have not Brissett. I know what I get with Brissett and it is losing football.

That's all he has ever shown too... time to move on from the long QB.

[YDFL Commish]

That's all he has ever shown too... time to move on from the long QB. Why move on now?

Brissett's value is the least it will ever be with every team finding their QB in free agency and the draft.

Wait until a few weeks into the season when QB 1's and QB 2's start going down.

[Ironshaft]

It is obvious the more we see of Ballard's picks that he uses a different measuring stick than most folks.

Blackmon, Pinter, Windsor. All athletic but all with fairly limited experience or skill sets. High character appears to trump experience.

In Ballard I trust but Windsor would probably have been available as a UDFA.

Different measuring stick.

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[IndyNorm]

Hunter Bryant, Prince Tega Wanagho, Kenny Wllekes?

I would have liked to have seen us take KJ Hill there. Fingers crossed he's still around at the end of the 6th and we take him then.

[YDFL Commish]

I would have liked to have seen us take KJ Hill there. Fingers crossed he's still around at the end of the 6th and we take him then.

Please no more OSU players. When has one OSU player ever lived up to has draft status with the Colts?

[JAFF]

It is obvious the more we see of Ballard's picks that he uses a different measuring stick than most folks.

Blackmon, Pinter, Windsor. All athletic but all with fairly limited experience or skill sets. High character appears to trump experience.

In Ballard I trust but Windsor would probably have been available as a UDFA.

Different measuring stick.

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High character means “coachable”

[IndyNorm]

It is obvious the more we see of Ballard's picks that he uses a different measuring stick than most folks.

Blackmon, Pinter, Windsor. All athletic but all with fairly limited experience or skill sets. High character appears to trump experience.

In Ballard I trust but Windsor would probably have been available as a UDFA.

Different measuring stick.

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Yeah, it seems like he always takes some guys not on any of the published draft boards who he seemingly could take later on or pick up as an UDFA. Sometimes this has worked out (Leonard) and sometimes it hasn't (Grover Stewart).

[JAFF]

Please no more OSU players. When has one OSU player ever lived up to has draft status with the Colts?
NFL hall of fame

Cris Carter , Sid Gillman , Lou Groza , Dante Lavelli , Dick LeBeau , Orlando Pace , Jim Parker , Ed Sabol , Paul Warfield , Bill Willis

[IndyNorm]

Please no more OSU players. When has one OSU player ever lived up to has draft status with the Colts?

I suppose we haven't had much luck w/ OSU, but I think a 6th rounder for a really good slot receiver would be worth it.

[Chromeburn]

Yeah, it seems like he always takes some guys not on any of the published draft boards who he seemingly could take later on or pick up as an UDFA. Sometimes this has worked out (Leonard) and sometimes it hasn't (Grover Stewart).

Grover is our starting NT. I would say that is pretty good.

[YDFL Commish]

NFL hall of fame

Cris Carter , Sid Gillman , Lou Groza , Dante Lavelli , Dick LeBeau , Orlando Pace , Jim Parker , Ed Sabol , Paul Warfield , Bill Willis

Indianapolis Colts: Mike Doss, Ben Hartsock, Quin Pitcok, Anthony Gonzalez, Jack Mewhort, Malik Hooker, Tyquan Lewis, Parris Campbell

[Ironshaft]

Grover is our starting NT. I would say that is pretty good.A 4th round pick who has grown into a border line starter. Not a bad thing

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[Hoopsdoc]

Indianapolis Colts: Mike Doss

Omaha masturbates furiously....

[IndyNorm]

Grover is our starting NT. I would say that is pretty good.

Fair enough. Bad example on my part.

[Colt Classic]

Indianapolis Colts: Mike Doss, Ben Hartsock, Quin Pitcok, Anthony Gonzalez, Jack Mewhort, Malik Hooker, Tyquan Lewis, Parris Campbell

You forgot Roy Hall

[YDFL Commish]

You forgot Roy Hall

Updated, thank you

Indianapolis Colts: Mike Doss, Ben Hartsock, Roy Hall, Quin Pitcok, Anthony Gonzalez, Jack Mewhort, Malik Hooker, Tyquan Lewis, Parris Campbell

[Colt Classic]

Haha...Colts have the next 3 picks. Gimme some prospects!

[Chromeburn]

Haha...Colts have the next 3 picks. Gimme some prospects!

TRey Adams OT
Prince Wananagagoo OT
Hunter Bryant TE
KJ Hill WR
Nick Coe DE
Kenny Wilkes DE
Terrence Steele OT
Binjimin Victor Skyscraper
Jonathon Garvin DE

[daedge]

Colts traded away CB Quincy Wilson to the Jets for the 211th pick, which they used to pick DB Isaiah Rodgers.

The Jets are practically former Colts.

[IndyNorm]

Updated, thank you

Indianapolis Colts: Mike Doss, Ben Hartsock, Roy Hall, Quin Pitcok, Anthony Gonzalez, Jack Mewhort, Malik Hooker, Tyquan Lewis, Parris Campbell

To be fair a lot of those were/are good players but had some back luck with injuries.

[Chromeburn]

Took a lot of PAC-12 players this draft.

[smitty46953]

Dezmon Patmon, WR from Washington State

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dezmon-patmon-an-nfl-draft-prospect-not-to-be-overlooked

:cool:

Can say I never heard of him :cool:

[IndyNorm]

I wonder what the deal is with Trey Adams, OT Wash, and Hunter Bryant, TE Wash. Per ESPN both have 3rd round draft grades and are still on the board.

[Ironshaft]

I wonder what the deal is with Trey Adams, OT Wash, and Hunter Bryant, TE Wash. Per ESPN both have 3rd round draft grades and are still on the board.NFL executives don't watch ESPN?

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[smitty46953]

I wonder what the deal is with Trey Adams, OT Wash, and Hunter Bryant, TE Wash. Per ESPN both have 3rd round draft grades and are still on the board.

Might be why Kiper works for ESPN and not a NFL team...

Tobin: "Who in the hell is Mel Kiper anyways?"

[daedge]

Dezmon Patmon, WR from Washington State

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dezmon-patmon-an-nfl-draft-prospect-not-to-be-overlooked

:cool:

Can say I never heard of him :cool:

I like his size and ability to go up and get it.

[IndyNorm]

NFL executives don't watch ESPN?

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True. Although some of them probably should be :D

[YDFL Commish]

To be fair a lot of those were/are good players but had some back luck with injuries.

Almost all have had bad luck with injuries, except Quitcock, who possibly injured his thumbs playing video games.

I would call it the Art Schichter curse but he was drafted 1 year before the Colts moved to Indy.

I hate OSU and their players have haunted us.

[IndyNorm]

Almost all have had bad luck with injuries, except Quitcock, who possibly injured his thumbs playing video games.

I would call it the Art Schichter curse but he was drafted 1 year before the Colts moved to Indy.

I hate OSU and their players have haunted us.

There were some bad draft picks in there as well. I don't hate OSU but not a fan either. I just think KJ Hill will be a really good slot receiver and a steal at where he was drafted. Wish we had picked him up with one of the 6th rounders we had.

[Hoopsdoc]

Might be why Kiper works for ESPN and not a NFL team...

Tobin: "Who in the hell is Mel Kiper anyways?"

What the hell is wrong with Kiper anyway? He looked and acted like a guy who was either on a 5 day meth binge or has a serious nerve condition.

[JAFF]

What the hell is wrong with Kiper anyway? He looked and acted like a guy who was either on a 5 day meth binge or has a serious nerve condition.


Whats right?